From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #137 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, May 17 2003 Volume 09 : Number 137 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Jewel video ["John Zimmer" ] Wes McDonough Show [Phuesma@aol.com] RE: Jewel??? ["Amy" ] eddi reader. ["heidi maier" ] beth sorrentino at the living room (nyc) [broadway jack ] Mary Fahl concert in Cincinnati! ["Joanna M. Phillips" ] New place for Kate fans (& some Happy fans too) [Xenus Sister ] Pendulum, Broadcast. [Craig Gidney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Michael Colford (colford@attbi.com) ******************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Julia Macklin Mon May 20 1968 ethereus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Taina Sahlander Mon May 28 1973 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Dave Upham Sun June 15 1958 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Pr. SAFH - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 03:03:31 -0700 From: "John Zimmer" Subject: Re: Jewel video Ted wrote: > Has anyone here seen the video for the new Jewel single? It makes > it abundantly clear that this song is a parody of exactly what > folks here seem to dislike. If Jewel is selling out (meaning > "doing something I don't like"), at least she's mocking her label > overlords on the way down. I've managed to catch the video once. Leaving aside differing ideas about what constitutes "selling out", I got the impression that the video might be having some tongue-in-cheek fun with the reactions of her fan base, but the song sounds like what it is: something produced and cowritten by Shakira/Enrique Iglesias producer Lester Mendez. Not that she's going to miss any royalties from my (non)purchase of this CD, as I've never been moved enough to buy (or download!) any of her previous work. But I always had the impression that she was at least striving toward something resembling art. This first single sounds like manufactured product -- which, as it happens, is *my* entirely subjective definition of selling out. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 07:23:39 EDT From: Phuesma@aol.com Subject: Wes McDonough Show Hello all. I caught a show by Wes McDonough at the Stone Cellar in Ellicott City MD 2 weeks ago. WOW!!! Any MD Ectophiles should definitely check him out. He is playing again this Monday night at 10pm. Well worth the loss of sleep. He reminded me of Jeff Buckly a bit, but with a darker voice. His song writing lends itself to a bluesy/alternative/dreamy/depressing feel. I can't remember the last time I was so deeply moved by a show. Good guitarist, great songwriter. Great performer. INCREDIBLE voice. Not human. His range is like Happy's. Off the charts. He mainly settles into a midrange, alternative vibe, but he'll make you wide eyed when he jumps into his high range. Not human. I can't recommend him more highly. Don't miss it. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:13:11 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: Jewel??? I sure thought it sounded like Avril, and I don't think I'm alone. I was disappointed. I mean, it's not bad, per se, but it's not Liz, you know? I went to Liz' website and see that she's even dressing a little like Avril now! Check it out: http://www.lizphair.com/tour.html then on this page http://www.lizphair.com/music.html you can hear a clip of the song. I just hope that the rest of the CD isn't like this. But I fear it is, I was looking around on some Liz message boards and those who have heard the whole thing are saying "she's out of her tree". :( ~~Amy Producer, Collected Sounds - a Guide to Women in Music www.collectedsounds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 01:01:08 +1000 From: "heidi maier" Subject: eddi reader. a piece about ms. reader from the online edition of the guardian. heidi. - --- More than just a fairground attraction Eddi Reader Will Hodgkinson Friday May 16, 2003 The Guardian Robert Burns has been a mainstay of the Scottish heritage industry for the best part of two centuries, which doesn't mean that all Scottish people are intimately acquainted with his life and work. "Burns is like Shakespeare in Scotland," says Eddi Reader, who has recorded an album of the songs of Robert Burns with the Royal Scottish National Orchestra. "You do him in school, and it's usually folk with kilts that sing his songs in high, classical voices or drink to him in gentlemen's clubs. He's our national bard and he's feted in a canny historian way, and you don't really learn about his life and who he was. But when I first sang My Love Is Like a Red, Red Rose, I felt that this guy was as vital as Bob Dylan or Tom Waits." Reader found out about Burns when her family moved from a two-bedroom flat in a housing project in the centre of Glasgow to Irvine, a seaside town on the Ayrshire coast, when she was 14. "We're not highbrow. My parents know a lot about Elvis but nothing about Burns, and they would never listen to traditional folk. There were nine of us in a tiny flat in a Glasgow scheme, so my mother bugged the council and eventually we were given a house in Irvine, which is where Burns lived for a while, along with Edgar Allan Poe. So people would sing his songs in the pubs, and that's where I discovered this other side to him." In 1782 Irvine was bigger than Glasgow: a smugglers' paradise, it was the hub of Scottish coastal activity, both legal and illegal. Burns moved to Irvine to make linen and was encouraged by sea captains he met to write about the life around him, from last night's dalliance down the alehouse to the hypocrites running the church. Reader admires him as a tearaway who could write such famous standards as Auld Lang Syne and Charlie Is My Darling without ever considering himself anything special. "People didn't want their daughters anywhere near him because he was a scallywag, and he was always getting in trouble with the people in the chapel," she says. "Mostly for fornication. He fell in love all the time. There were four sisters in Irvine whose parents would put them in the back of the house when Burns was walking past because they didn't want them falling for him, which women did all the time. He wrote dedications to lassies, got girls pregnant, and was a commoner - a Jakey - with a romantic soul who could translate his life into song." In 2002, Tom Waits released two albums simultaneously, Alice and Blood Money, and Reader sees him as following the storytelling tradition that Burns was a part of. "I get a sense that he avoids any complications in the music industry and concentrates on the process of writing," she says. "He can't fail to get in the depths of your soul and he's a passionate man." One of Reader's favourite records is A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night, 70s singer-songwriter Harry Nilsson's collection of standards. "He did what I did with the Burns album: got an orchestra and recorded it live in four days, singing his favourite songs like As Time Goes By and Makin' Whoopee. It was a totally uncool thing to do at that time, which I like, and he sings the songs immaculately. He's up there with Frank Sinatra." Sinatra made an album with the Brazilian bossa nova pioneer Antonio Carlos Jobim that travels with Reader everywhere she goes. "One of the songs, Quiet Nights, is Sinatra's best moment because he was totally broken-hearted about Ava Gardner, and every pain can be heard on it. There's nothing more romantic." Rufus Wainwright, son of the songwriter Loudon Wainwright III, has a more romantic sensibility than his wry, sarcastic dad. He spent much of his teenage years in his bedroom listening to Judy Garland records, prompting his parents to send him off to a private school, Millbrook, to sort him out. Rufus wrote a song about his experiences there, and Reader gives us an impromptu version of it. "The song describes these people, with their new hats and their privileged lives, and it paints a picture," she says, after she has finished singing Millbrook in its entirety. "It's a lovely portrait of a world and it makes a change from songs about picking up chicks - although they can be good, too, as long as the singer means it." The Hissing of Summer Lawns by Joni Mitchell is the first album that Reader bought. "It's my coming-of-age record, and I got to it via the second-hand shop when I was 17," she says. "It was Joni Mitchell that made me realise I didn't want to just sing John Denver songs, but lyrics that meant something. She's the consummate artist. I wonder what she had to give up to pursue her goal - one song of hers, Green, is about putting her child up for adoption. But she is streets ahead of everyone else." For Reader, that kind of sacrifice would clearly be too much. Having started off as a folk singer in Glasgow pubs, she had a huge hit with her old band Fairground Attraction. When the dust settled, she returned to what she did before. Now she looks after her children, releases solo albums - the Burns project is her eighth in 13 years - and stays sane. "When you have success, a whole load of machinery comes into play and there is a loss of freedom," she says. "But art is about moving through life and picking up inspiration from God knows where, not replicating hits. I'm happy doing what I'm doing now. It was either this or the local Asda, after all." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:32:55 -0400 From: broadway jack Subject: beth sorrentino at the living room (nyc) just saw this on the latest living room listing: >The Living Room >84 Stanton Street >(Corner of Stanton and Allen) >www.livingroomny.com >livingrm@rcn.com >212-533-7237 > >Tue 6/3 - 7 In the Round : Gretta Gertler, Beth Sorrentino, Reuben woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:25:15 -0400 From: "Joanna M. Phillips" Subject: Mary Fahl concert in Cincinnati! W00t! We are going to see Mary Fahl in concert at the 20th Century Theatre in Cincinnati, OH on Thursday night, June 5th! Can't wait! :-) fleur ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:48:44 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: CD Sleeves The issue of CD Storage comes up here every so often. Some folks here are avid about the two-pocket plastic sleeves that hold all the packaging from within a standard jewel-box but take up far less room. I've found them not to my taste, and am moving much of my collection back into jewel-boxes. Would anyone be interested in 80-100 slightly used CD sleeves, perhaps trading jewel boxes for them? I'm in Berkeley, so a Bay Area swap could work well. BTW, I've shipped a bunch of CDs to myself lately, and built shelves for the subset of my collection that I now have out here. In the course of measuring and calculating, I've found, as a rule of thumb, that a foot of shelf space holds about 32 jewel boxes, and that, while ideally 168 of them pack into a cubic foot of space, it's easier to think in terms of 150 since they don't pack perfectly. Just in case anyone ever wondered about this. Metric conversions are left as an exercise for the reader :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:03:29 +0100 From: Xenus Sister Subject: New place for Kate fans (& some Happy fans too) http://pub3.ezboard.com/bthehomegroundandkatebushnewsandinfoforum A good look around will reveal other Happy fans :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 03:19:09 +0200 From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme Subject: Re: fa.music.ecto usenet gateway [carnivore@att.net]: > quite an ironic name... http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/carnivore/carnivore.htm > As for the gateway and archive, I don't think anyone can deny that > the internet is a far different place now than it was a few years > ago. Spam and privacy issues have increased exponentially, so > what made sense in the mid-90s may not be such a good idea now. > While I don't mind so much that the discussions are posted, I > would like to see the E-mail addresses start getting masked. I believe the smoe archive is more prone to address harvesting than Usenet, simply because the hierarchy fa.* is rather obscure and spammers seem to concentrate on trawling the web (Usenet is kind of unhip). I wouldn't worry about harvesting off groups.google.com -- I'm sure Google staff know how to stop wholesale downloading of archives. > Is there software available to the list owners that might > delete/replace everything after the @ symbol before relaying it to > the archives or usenet, so E-mail addresses would all appear in a > format like, "name@xxxxxx"? That way, readers would have a pretty > good idea who posted the comment, but the addresses would be less > susceptible to abuse. I control the Usenet gateway, and can easily rewrite anything to whatever the list feels like. it already rewrites Message-ID and References to make the articles thread better. e.g. kjetilho@yksi.ifi.uio.no could become kjetilho@random01752.yksi.ifi.uio.no.invalid. here, "01752" is CRC16 of "kjetilho" in decimal, I prepend "random" to make it clearer to a human that it is a spam block, and append "invalid" to make it clear to a mail program that replying to the address as it stands will not work. the nice property of this scheme is that the email address will be constant, so kill files will still work ;-) myself, I rewrite my address on my own. email to the host yksi will be scrutinised more carefully by my filters than email to just the domain. ... sorry for drifting into techno-babble... - -- Kjetil T. np: Tosca: Suzuki nr: Margaret Atwood: The Cat's Eye ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:36:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Ultralash, Ultralash Personnel: Karry Walker, and friends http://www.ultralash.com 1. Kitchen Song 2. BMW 3. Afterglow 4. Dandelion 5. Flying Colors 6. Cabernet 7. Barbiewhore 8. Spades 9. Clover 10. Bunny 11. Laces 12. Twenty Four Karry Walkers voice has a delicate quaver thats like Robin Holcombs. Its nasal, with a mountain twang beauty, as sharp and refreshing as pine needles. Like Holcomb, her music refers to a mythic American past, steeped in folk traditions. Her bedroom folk combines bits of trip-hop and Appalachia, the samples and drum machines dueling with banjos and the creek of rocking chairs on the porch. Her lyrics are enigmatic puzzles, fragments of short story detail and corrosive imagery. Kitchen Song describes the life of a homeless prostitute with wry grit: My hair smells like an ashtray/ And theres 17 coats on the bed where I slept. The minor key melody is catchy. The minor key melancholy of BMW concerns a woman being questioned by the cops about her missing lover. A potentially lurid scene from the TV show Cops is transformed into a little epiphany of love and tenderness. Tentative banjo notes and funereal organs open the cryptic Dandelion. Walker recites, like a backwoods oracle, Dandelion/Take a tire iron/To my skull/ And render me null. Barbiewhore is fuzzy-crispy indie rawk, as lacerating as early P.J. Harvey. Suzanne Vega meets Shannon Wright in these musical novels, as intricate and haphazardly beautiful as quilts. - --CLG ===== Reviews of esoteric, atmospheric literature, music and movies: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ethereality/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Pendulum, Broadcast. http://www.warprecords.com 1 Pendulum 2 Small Song IV 3 One Hour Empire 4 Still Feels Like Tears 5 Violent Playground 6 Minus Two Broadcast are Stereolabs darker cousins, or St. Etienne in photonegative. Like the lab, they employ elements of drone-pop with beautiful, emotionless female vocals. Like St. Es Sarah Cracknell, singer Trish sounds like Petula Clark--if Clark were a graduate student immersed in Nietzsche. The band is influenced as much by 60s pop as they are by the more abstract electronica of Aphex Twin. Opening track Pendulum is Teutonic dance pop wedded to the warm static burbles of German IDM act Pole. Small Song IV mixes the 60s combo feel of the Left Bank as retooled by Autechre. Like Pram (with whom they share a member), Broadcast freely pilfers soundtrack music and cheesy sci-fi effects. The result is eerie, rather than arch and kitsch. The music is mysterious and smart, like the landscapes of the early surrealists. - --CLG ===== Reviews of esoteric, atmospheric literature, music and movies: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ethereality/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #137 **************************