From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #136 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, May 16 2003 Volume 09 : Number 136 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fw: ecto-digest V9 #135 ["abaton" ] Jewel video [Ted ] Re: Address handling, was: fa.music.ecto usenet gateway [dmw ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 03:04:40 -0700 From: "abaton" Subject: Fw: ecto-digest V9 #135 From Billboard: Why Can't I?," "Extraordinary," "Rock Me," and "Favorite" were co-written by Phair with the Matrix production team, best known for its work on Avril Lavigne's smash Arista debut, "Let Go." The slickly produced cuts are a far cry from Phair's humble indie roots, captured on her acclaimed 1994 Matador debut "Exile in Guyville." md > > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:11:12 -0500 > From: "Mark Harbott" > Subject: Re: Jewel??? > > Nope, you are not alone. I had the exact same thought. I'm pretty > disappointed..... > > Mark> > > And is it just me or does the new Liz Phair song sound *just* like Avril > > Lavigne? I thought I was losing my mind. > > > > ~~Amy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 06:30:28 -0400 From: Ted Subject: Jewel video Has anyone here seen the video for the new Jewel single? It makes it abundantly clear that this song is a parody of exactly what folks here seem to dislike. If Jewel is selling out (meaning "doing something I don't like"), at least she's mocking her label overlords on the way down. I spotted three vids from the new album on the web on my Netscape news page. Maybe they're accessible there and/or elsewhere. I kinda like the new song, which I've never heard separate from the video, as well as the vid where Jewel morphs into just about every character in the video. Sell-out Commercial Artist Ted ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:46:32 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Address handling, was: fa.music.ecto usenet gateway On Wed, 14 May 2003, Leon van Stuivenberg wrote: > > can definitively say that mj2 has its limitations too. I don't know if > > e-dress masking is within mj2's capabilities either. > > Apparently there are ways to customize majordomo, e.g.: > http://www.greatcircle.com/lists/majordomo-users/mhonarc/majordomo-users.199801/msg00176.html Yes, majordomo is open source, but that doesn't mean that the level of effort to add a bogus domain name to addresses, but not break any of the validation/delivery code is at all trivial. for the record, if this were a democracy, my vote would remain unchanged from last time: status quo is fine. i get hundreds of spam messages daily (well: i have hundreds of e-mail addresses.) my research suggests that little, if any of it, is the result of the ecto gateway. obMusic content: i've been playing the lovers record, "star lit sunken ship" quite a bit. it'd be very lazy to say that they sound like a female-fronted version of neutral milk hotel, but carolyn beek's lyrics do have something both of nmh frontman jeff mangum's surreal squirminess and the sense that they fell from larger stories. it's less rocking and dreamier than nmh's but there's a similar profusion of instruments (but no saw). it's on orange twin. - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:06:19 +0100 From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: The grotto I've just listened to Kristin Hersh's "The Grotto" for what must be the 10th time, and it doesn't really get any easier. I think I can summon up the strength to say that (yes, IMHO) this is easily her worst album. At first, I was thrilled when I heard that she was getting back to basics, thinking "Great, another Hips and Makers"  which I still think is her best. But this...this tuneless, turgid plod just tries my patience. There are some beautiful arrangement  Arnica Montana, for instance, has a really fragile, haunting feeling to it, thanks to the piano and cello accompaniment  but otherwise this is just one dull moan after another, and after a while they begin to sound familiar. Meanwhile  is it just me, or has something happened to her voice? It feels much more tentative, much more tremulous than before, lacking the passion of her past recordings. Finally, a handy hint: Don't play this in tandem with Cat Power's "You Are Free". You'll be screaming for Partridge Family reunion for days. adam k. - ------------------------------------------------ This mail sent through http://webmail.zoom.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:32:17 -0700 From: iflin@speakeasy.net Subject: liz phair. [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] > > And is it just me or does the new Liz Phair > > song sound *just* like Avril Lavigne? I > > thought I was losing my mind. > > > > ~~Amy *sigh* i was afraid of this. i haven't heard the new song yet, but LIZ PHAIR was suppose to be working with "hitmakers" THE MATRIX - the same people who were responsible for AVRIL LAVIGNE's COMPLICATED. so most likely her lead single was the song that came out of that session.do take note that LIZ PHAIR is no longer on indie label MATADOR, but is on CAPITOL. apparently when MATADOR severed ties with CAPITOL a year or two ago, they kept their roster of artists, but gave up on LIZ in the bargain. or something like that. CAPITOL was probably hoping to shape LIZ into a more grownup version of AVRIL or PINK. you know, punk rock but with a pop edge. heh. like AVRIL or PINK know ANYTHING about punk rock. striped color hair, and old school sweatbands don't make a punk. i was annoyed with just the photos of LIZ on her website. she looks trashy pouty wannabee-sexy. i wanted to scream sellout, but i refrained. i noticed her song DOWN is on NOT her new album. it's a great song, but probably not produced or pop enough for her new album. irvin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:50:54 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Aaaagh! Vienna Teng was in Eugene and I missed it. I didn't see _any_ publicity for this (I guess I should read the campus newspaper more often). http://www.dailyemerald.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/05/08/3eba6aaf710a9 Damn. I did, however, suggest the venue Vienna Teng played at (Cafe Paradiso) as a possible non-house-concert location for Happy's tour when the request went out a few weeks ago. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #136 **************************