From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #129 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, May 9 2003 Volume 09 : Number 129 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Usenet gateway, then scroll down for music content. [Dan_Stark ] Buffy with a little music throw in. [irvin lin ] Re: Buffy with a little music throw in. [Greg Bossert ] Kathleen Edwards in London [adamk@zoom.co.uk] RE: Buffy with a little music throw in. ["jzitt@metatronpress.com" ] Re: MP3 rippin' ["jzitt@metatronpress.com" ] Re: meth, your name is being used in spam [Markku Kolkka ] Re: MP3 rippin' ["Brian Bloom" ] Re: it's never the wrong week to quit [dmw ] Re: another Unix geek and some ecto [garrick@siosos.fsnet.co.uk] Mixerman chronicles / Angel series end!?! (WAS: RE: it's never the wrong week to quit) ["William Mazur" ] Re: Mixerman chronicles / Angel series end!?! (WAS: RE: it's never the wrong week to quit) [] For Evanescence fans... [carnivore@att.net] a-spam-harvester-thwarting we shall go [Damon Harper ] Re: Mixerman chronicles / Angel series end!?! [meredith ] Re: ecto-digest V9 #128 [Noe Venable ] Re: ecto-digest V9 #128 [meredith ] Re: what to choose - what to choose [Andrew Fries Subject: Usenet gateway, then scroll down for music content. noel gallagher wrote: >well, it's not a new gateway. fa.music.ecto has been there since the early >years of the list (i think it was made in late '91 or early '92) and it >has been discussed on ecto several times in the recent past. It was those recent discussions that alerted me to it, actually. I checked Google Groups earlier today and it's only archived back to October '98, so I'm surprised to learn it dates back so many years before that. >oops. since your note was sent from an unsubscribed account, it sent to me >for approval. since i recognized the name, i just automatically approved >it not thinking that it might be a problem. you can smack me next time we >run into each other... That's OK, I'm about to switch ISPs and close that account anyway. Hopefully I'll be able to keep my new addresses secure for a while. But one thing is clear - between the web archives and the Usenet gateway, there is no doubt that any E-mail address used on this mailing list will be instantly compromised. And now, in an attempt to veer back onto a musical course, I will mention that I went to see Charlotte Martin the other night - she was on the bill with Damien Rice at the Mercury Lounge in NY. I like Charlotte but it almost seems like she tries a little too hard to be creative with her songwriting instead of just letting it flow naturally. She also sounds quite derivative of Tori to me. Still, she put in a respectable performance in front of a good size crowd, and I found her interesting to watch. I had planned to leave after Charlotte's set but there was a real buzz in the crowd for Damien Rice so we decided to hang around. This turned out to be a *great* call because Damien ended up being a truly engaging performer with a terrific set of songs and a sharp Irish wit. Not only that, but his backup singer, Lisa Hannigan, was a knockout performer herself, sounding a lot like Natalie Merchant at times. I had a great time at this show, and heartily recommend it if he makes it to your area. Lisa gets a lot of mic time at Damien's show, so you won't likely be disappointed. I'm not sure how many more dates Charlotte Martin may be on the bill (if any), but Terami Hirsch will be opening for Damien on some upcoming dates too. And speaking of Terami, I saw her in Philly this weekend on her own tour, and she was well worth the trip. Can't believe I've gone this long without hearing more from her. Los Angeles singer Natalie Wattre opened the night in front of the coffee shop audience about 30-strong, and she also belted out an impressive set. Within the first ten seconds, Natalie reminded me of Tracy Chapman, and sure enough she ended up covering Talkin' 'Bout a Revolution before she was done, but she did an excellent job of it. It was good to meet Ectophile Megan (aka Datura Child) at this show too. :) I guess that should be enough music news to redeem myself from posting off topic content for a while. Now if you'll excuse me, I must go delete some more spam from my In box. 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Accept no imitation. Definitely HEATHER NOVA. Off of her latest much maligned album SOUTH, the song is called IT'S ONLY LOVE > I agree with it being the best ep in a while. REALLY? Okay I just want to COMPLETELY disagree. For me it was one of the most boring, slow moving episodes in awhile. The entire smooch montage was CHEESE all the way, I cringed through out it. And for them to bring back the MAYOR and have it as dull and lifeless as they had it. Well I'd hate to say it, but I'm glad that BUFFY is ending. It's way past it's due. Basically I decided that after the show ends, I'm going to pretend that BUFFY actually ended at Season 5. With maybe, ONCE MORE WITH FEELING as a "reunion" show. Season six and seven. Terrible. Never should have happened. > Now I have to catch up on > all those issues of _Fray_ I've been saving for eons so I can read the > whole thing in one go, because I gather a certain weapon stumbled upon by a > certain Slayer appears in those pages. Sigh. FRAY. I hear they finally released issue seven and that issue eight is being inked as we speak and is scheduled to come out in late MAY. I haven't read any of it, but I know the storyline. The collected graphic novel is suppose to be released in NOVEMBER so I guess I'll just have to wait until then. Did anyone watch ANGEL? Interesting twist. I have to say THAT episode was probably one of the better episodes of the season. Season four has been pretty melodramatic/soap opera bad. Hopefully with the way they ended the show, the next two season (which I am assuming they are going to have - either on WB or UPN) show promise. Of course I said that about season SEVEN of BUFFY and well... Oh um. Music. I hate the new MADONNA album - who in the world told her to rap? - oh yeah. That MIRWAIS guy did. Damn him. I really do like the new CARDIGANS album (does anyone know if they are going to release it here in the US?) - it's totally grown on me. Has anyone heard the new YO LA TENGO? And has anyone gotten their hands on the new LIZ PHAIR (okay it's to be released in JUNE< but still, I figure there must be a promo copy floating out there somewhere...) Irvin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 01:30:59 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Buffy with a little music throw in. On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 00:49 US/Pacific, irvin lin wrote: >>> hey, no one has said anything about Buffy in a while, probably due >>> to the, >>> you know, mediocrity and all. but tonight's ep was IMoHO the best >>> in a >>> while. who was that sounding like Heather Nova in the smoochy >>> montage? >> >> It sounded like Heather Nova to me! Accept no imitation. > > Definitely HEATHER NOVA. Off of her latest much maligned album SOUTH, > the > song is called IT'S ONLY LOVE i thought so. i wasn't a maligner -- i'm quite, um, benign (well, that *ought* to mean the opposite ;-) about ms. Nova... but clearly the album hasn't stuck in my head. every time i'm in the N section, i grab her live stuff instead. i can't help it: live Heather is a weird sort of comfort thing for me, like muffins or sheets fresh from the drier. or a good old Buffy episode: >> I agree with it being the best ep in a while. > > REALLY? Okay I just want to COMPLETELY disagree. For me it was one of > the > most boring, slow moving episodes in awhile. The entire smooch montage > was > CHEESE all the way, I cringed through out it. And for them to bring > back the > MAYOR and have it as dull and lifeless as they had it. Well I'd hate > to say > it, but I'm glad that BUFFY is ending. It's way past it's due. i didn't say it was good, just better. i agree with the last, alas. > Did anyone watch ANGEL? Interesting twist. I have to say THAT episode > was > probably one of the better episodes of the season. Season four has been > pretty melodramatic/soap opera bad. Hopefully with the way they ended > the > show, the next two season (which I am assuming they are going to have - > either on WB or UPN) show promise. Of course I said that about season > SEVEN > of BUFFY and well... yup. plus the return of a favorite of mine -- name omitted for our angelic ecthren overseas. and, yeah, lots of soap, not enough opera, but at least Fred got to be the hero, and, hey, Vincent mopes well, and Andy Hallet survived getting a credit -- cute little in joke in that episode. does charisma get paid for these shows? tv is wacky. > Oh um. Music. I hate the new MADONNA album - who in the world told her > to > rap? - oh yeah. That MIRWAIS guy did. Damn him. bummer -- i had some small hopes. > I really do like the new > CARDIGANS album (does anyone know if they are going to release it here > in > the US?) - it's totally grown on me. thanks, Irvin! i'm probably in amsterdam and berlin next week, gotta grab that. been listening to my Bonnie Pink albums recently -- j-pop from scandinavia or s-pop from japan or something. > Has anyone heard the new YO LA TENGO? > And has anyone gotten their hands on the new LIZ PHAIR (okay it's to be > released in JUNE< but still, I figure there must be a promo copy > floating > out there somewhere...) ooh ooh. been on a LP kick recently. also Magnapop. also Elastica. also Pretenders. also Aphex Twin. etc. - -g - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 09:38:19 +0100 From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: Kathleen Edwards in London Another plug from Time Out's resident genius and unofficial ecto Ross Fortune ensured the Borderline was packed for this gig, but something struck me as very, very odd from the start: first, I've never seen the place so inexplicably crowded for an opening act (a rather anonymous, albeit impassioned, young man called Fionn Regan); second...well, usually at the Borderline, I'm pretty much one of the older people there. Not tonight. Tonight the audience seems to consist mainly of middle-aged men. At one point, lined up by the stage and unconnected with each other in any way, I count five balding men in jeans and t-shirts. The two men sitting to my right had to be in their sixties, and  looking out over the room  I spotted many grey heads and flowing beards. It was a surprising mix for a young songstress with only one album out  for a minute I began to panic and think I'd wandered into a 60's revival gig, expecting Gerry and the Pacemakers to take the stage. But no --- it was Kathleen Edwards. And she rocks. Absolutely rocks. As with Juliet Turner last week, I was pleasantly surprised to find that Edwards' voice is much, much stronger live than on her cd. In fact, the whole sound was stronger, tighter, and more visceral. Where I just find the cd interesting, I was totally taken in by her performance. What, at first, I thought was going to be a polite and workman- like representation turned into something much, much more. With an incredibly tight band (who she introduced twice, but I'm afraid I can't remember any of their names) she ripped through all the songs on the album, including a blistering segue from (if I'm not mistaken)12 Bellevue to Maria, which she attacked with such force and ferocity I could feel the top of my head peeling off. There were also a handful of covers (none of which she named and none of which I recognised) and a solo acoustic slot. I left feeling thrilled, fulfilled and absolutely buzzing. There were a couple of signs that all was not as it seemed  the fact that she was wearing exactly the same outfit as she is on the cover of the album, and that she made the same comment as  reported on this list, I seem to remember  about a fly being in her drink, but that's the conspiracy theorist in me, working overtime in these dark days. Great gig  weird audience. adam k. np - Throwing Muses/Throwing Muses nr - Gravity's Rainbow (I WILL finish it this time. No, really, i will...) - ------------------------------------------------ This mail sent through http://webmail.zoom.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 04:50:51 -0400 From: "jzitt@metatronpress.com" Subject: RE: Buffy with a little music throw in. >> I agree with it being the best ep in a while. > > REALLY? Okay I just want to COMPLETELY disagree. For me it was one of the > most boring, slow moving episodes in awhile. The entire smooch montage was > CHEESE all the way, I cringed through out it. And for them to bring back > the MAYOR and have it as dull and lifeless as they had it. Well I'd hate > to say it, but I'm glad that BUFFY is ending. It's way past it's due. It felt to me like a "calm before the storm" episode, moving people into place for the closing but without much kick on its own. But the creators have clearly gotten back the energy that was missing in season 6. It's gonna go out with a bang, while still strong. A friend of mine, who'd never seen Buffy, watched the episode. He was thoroughly confused. I told him he was, by analogy, reading the Lord of the Rings starting with The Scouring of the Shire. He also wondered if there was always this much sex in the show. > Did anyone watch ANGEL? Interesting twist. I have to say THAT episode > was probably one of the better episodes of the season. Season four has > been pretty melodramatic/soap opera bad. Hopefully with the way they > ended the show, the next two season (which I am assuming they are > going to have - either on WB or UPN) show promise. Of course I said > that about season SEVEN of BUFFY and well... Wah... I worked tonight (which I usually don't on Wednesdays) and forgot to tape it. Ah well, I guess I'll spent much of tomorrow hanging out at the coffeeshop with the free wireless broadband downloading it. I've enjoyed season four, though it's required an act of faith (and acts by Faith). I thought some of the characters were acting uncharacteristically, and it turned out that that was intentional. I thought last week's episode was less than it could have been, since the Big Bad was defeated way too easily, but am eager to see what happened tonight. Uh, I deleted what you wrote about the new Madonna album. I hated it at first, but it's growing on me. It's front-loaded with crud, but there are fine moments later on. I enjoy "I'm Not Religious", though the lyric is weak. And walking in on some of the guitar-based songs I thought they were by some fledgling Ecto-goddess-in-training, and pretty good. As with much of her stuff, it helps not to know who it is while listening to it. But I do wish they'd actually gotten around to writing more songs rather than compiling lists of tired studio tricks to fill the earlier tracks. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: 08 May 2003 18:54:50 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: MP3 rippin' On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 09:25, John Zimmer wrote: > My two desktop machines sit side-by-side, one running Windows and > the other running Mandrake 9.0 -- I'm not sure if that qualifies me as a > Unix/Linux geek, or just a braggart. ;) I'm sorry John but running Mandrake certainly does not qualify you as a geek, or give you much to brag about. REAL Unix gurus run OpenBSD, naturally without even installing any window managers. If they have to sink to the level of Linux masses, they roll their own Linux From Scratch, although using Gentoo is acceptable on weekends. Slackware *might* be acceptable too, but only if you've been running it since version 1.0, and you still miss the option of installing the whole thing from 37 floppies. Debian causes some controversy - true, installation is a bitch, but its ease of use once up and running casts some doubt as to its coolness. If you are serious about your cred, we recommend steering clear of Debian - just in case. As for Mandrake, I'm afraid you might as well be running Windows. Regards, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Linux Fashion Patrol - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Grrr...Arrgh!" -- Mutant - -- 15:55:42 up 3 days, 2:45, 2 users, load average: 1.02, 0.47, 0.18-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 06:42:30 -0400 From: "jzitt@metatronpress.com" Subject: Re: MP3 rippin' Andrew Fries afries@internode.on.net spake: > REAL Unix gurus run OpenBSD, > naturally without even installing any window managers. But those posers still insist on using monitors. Feh. REAL Unix geeks hook the video card output to tiny FM transmitters, and receive the signals through the fillings in their teeth. It's almost as good as telepathy, and the vibrations are even more effective than flossing. (The worst part is when the fillings come out when eating corn on the cob. It causes a kernel panic.) (Hmm, is "corn on the cob" called that elsewhere in the world..?) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:26:35 +0300 From: Markku Kolkka Subject: Re: meth, your name is being used in spam Viestissd Torstai 8. Toukokuuta 2003 02:33, meredith kirjoitti: > As for how the other ectophiles' addresses got into the "To:" line -- I > can't figure out how that could have happened. JeffW, got any ideas? The archives of the Ecto mailing list are on the Web, readable to any mail address harvester. - -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka@koti.soon.fi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:28:15 -0400 From: Gary Davis Subject: Re: meth, your name is being used in spam At 01:55 AM 5/8/03 -0400, you wrote: > > >I've had this happen to me twice, with two different addresses no less. >One was just a couple weeks ago even. Only way you even know it's >happening is you start to get lots of bounce messages from a message you >don't recognize. > >Baztards. > I've had this happen as well. If you think about it, at this point it's no longer just spam, it's identity theft - a crime! These perpetrators are passing themselves off as you without your knowledge or consent. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:22:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: what to choose - what to choose Hi, Listening to the Charlotte Martin soundclips at cdbaby made me want that cd now, but ordering just one cd is a waste of money really. So what new releases to add to that order? - -- Yngve n.p. Tanya Donelly - BeautySleep (I'm liking my Patos Basic 300 speakers more and more and I've had them nearly 1.5 years now. I heard today that they hardly are sold outside Norway, but if you have a chance to give them a try then do - they are really worth it!) ****************************************** * E-mail: onealien@mo.himolde.no ********* * Cell: +47 41330571 ********************* ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian Bloom" Subject: Re: MP3 rippin' > On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 09:25, John Zimmer wrote: >> My two desktop machines sit side-by-side, one running Windows and the >> other running Mandrake 9.0 -- I'm not sure if that qualifies me as a >> Unix/Linux geek, or just a braggart. ;) > > I'm sorry John but running Mandrake certainly does not qualify you as a > geek, or give you much to brag about. REAL Unix gurus run OpenBSD, > naturally without even installing any window managers. If they have to > sink to the level of Linux masses, they roll their own Linux From > Scratch, although using Gentoo is acceptable on weekends. Slackware > *might* be acceptable too, but only if you've been running it since > version 1.0, and you still miss the option of installing the whole thing > from 37 floppies. Debian causes some controversy - true, installation is > a bitch, but its ease of use once up and running casts some doubt as to > its coolness. If you are serious about your cred, we recommend steering > clear of Debian - just in case. > > As for Mandrake, I'm afraid you might as well be running Windows. > > Regards, > Your Friendly Neighbourhood Linux Fashion Patrol Well, then I should just barely meet the geek threshold... Home lan, 4 machines (2 of which are laptops), one box running Debian, one laptop running Gentoo (stage 1 compile even), then other two are Win 2K machines. I guess you say I "go both ways".. ;) And for the record, I *did* install Slackware from floppies back around 1995.. when everything was modular: "N", "X", "G", etc... (don't recall what specific version # it was.. all the skipping around of numbers by Redhat and Mandrake has confused my noggin... ;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 13:35:31 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: it's never the wrong week to quit On 8 May 2003, Andrew Fries wrote: > On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 01:43, dmw wrote: > > > the BIG studios are, and should be dinosaurs. no one should spend a > > million on a record. no one should move their groupies and their drugs > > into a studio for three months (although, there's still mixerman, > > apparently). > Exactly. Existence of huge, expensive studios is closely linked to huge, > expensive music industry. And as long as musicians need hundreds of > thousands to record, they are going to need huge record labels to fork > out the advance, in return for the rights to screw them, and the public, > for the rest of their life. > So while rooms filled with expensive gear with lots of knobs and dials > are inherently cool, their passing won't fill me with despair. well, and again, i don't see the passing of the gear with knobs and dials - -- just it's dispersal, so it's available less expesnively to more people. > blame digital editing. blame poor judgment on the part of the > > record companies and the craze for making new hits by cloning the previous > > hit. > Or, just blame Napster. Why not? Recording companies blame it for > everything else... :) Napster explains why 98% (scientifically sampled! must be true!) of current major label output is not only dreck, but poorly recorded/mixed/mastered dreck? cool! - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 19:21:55 +0100 From: garrick@siosos.fsnet.co.uk Subject: Re: another Unix geek and some ecto On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 06:30:37PM -0700, Damon Harper wrote: > *raises hand* ... that'd be me, mr. long-haired vegan unix geek #2. > er, you do have long hair, right? ;) Guilty as charged. Haircuts, like wearing ties, is something other people do. :) I've been fully vegan for about 4 years and was vegetarian for several years before that. > looks like we even use the same (current) version of mutt. Mutt rules. Ob. ecto content. Mary Gauthier has a show at the Borderline (top venue) on Wednesday. I've got my ticket booked. :) And I finally got through to the booking line for Cambridge Folk Festival which seems to have been engaged since Saturday. Glastonbury sold out before I got myself organsised so I thought I'd try the Cambridge gig, never been before but it has a good reputation and the line- up looks promising. Now what will the wonderfully unpredictable British climate will have to offer. G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:54:22 -0700 From: "William Mazur" Subject: Mixerman chronicles / Angel series end!?! (WAS: RE: it's never the wrong week to quit) OK, a question for the studio geek contingent of the Ecto Oracle. DMW mentions the Mixerman chronicles. I read them faithfully after Joseph Zitt turned me onto them. It was amusing and entertaining, although possibly fabricated or perhaps it was an amalgam of many session experiences. Then the storyline just died. The last part that I read was right after the studio exec's mistress found out the band wrote and was recording a song about her. Did Mixerman ever revisit the story? I have checked out the site several times and never found where the storyline picked up again. I felt like I will if they end up canceling Angel after this season. The Mixerman storyline was very interesting. I need to know what happened next. The Angel information is from an article that I read in my local paper. They quoted David Boreanz and Josh Whedon saying that there was the possibility of Angel being cancelled after the season ending episode. Probably and hopefully not true. I like the twists of the storyline that happened last night. They can really take the show in many new directions now. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Fries Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 7:28 PM To: Ecto Subject: Re: it's never the wrong week to quit On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 01:43, dmw wrote: > the BIG studios are, and should be dinosaurs. no one should spend a > million on a record. no one should move their groupies and their drugs > into a studio for three months (although, there's still mixerman, > apparently). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:41:21 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Mixerman chronicles / Angel series end!?! (WAS: RE: it's never the wrong week to quit) On Thu, 8 May 2003, William Mazur wrote: > OK, a question for the studio geek contingent of the Ecto Oracle. DMW > mentions the Mixerman chronicles. I read them faithfully after Joseph > Zitt turned me onto them. It was amusing and entertaining, although > possibly fabricated or perhaps it was an amalgam of many session > experiences. Then the storyline just died. The last part that I read was > right after the studio exec's mistress found out the band wrote and was > recording a song about her. > > Did Mixerman ever revisit the story? I have checked out the site several > times and never found where the storyline picked up again. I felt like I > will if they end up canceling Angel after this season. The Mixerman > storyline was very interesting. I need to know what happened next. there's a brief q&a w/ mixerman in the new tape op (www.tapeop.com -- the greatest mag in the world for studio geeks) i haven't had time to keep up w/ it lately, but i think it's still going on somewhere in the recpit. and i think it's pretty likely to be made into a book at some point, although it remains to be seen how many juicy details will need to be censored. i wonder if the record will do well when/if it's relased, just because so many people will be curious? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 22:17:20 +0000 From: carnivore@att.net Subject: For Evanescence fans... A friend alerted me to a large archive of Evanescence demos & rarites. A goldmine if you happen to be a fan of the band, but I don't expect it will last very long... http://www.evanescencemusic.da.ru Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:18:01 -0700 From: Damon Harper Subject: a-spam-harvester-thwarting we shall go hi all - i can't do a thing about spammers harvesting our addresses off the usenet feed (which is why i've been using this dl+ecto address for a while, btw), however i thought i'd put a stop to one avenue of harvesting at least. i've had an in-progress archive of ecto digests up on my server for a long time, never really finished it, but a while ago i finally gave it its own domain, http://ecto-archives.usrbin.ca/, and made it semi-official. (note if you try it out, it's still buggy, the search works but not all options work...) i'm hoping since it wasn't really linked anywhere (except on archives like google groups) that it wasn't a target for too many harvesters before now, but i've just put in place an email-masking technique i haven't really seen before - the program now automatically replaces all @s and .s in an email address with graphic versions. of course the graphics are taken from my courier font under linux, so they might look odd for windows and mac users, but at least they should be recognisable. and there are alt tags of "@" and "." in there meaning anyone browsing with lynx won't even know the addresses are hidden at all. :) (hm, actually, checking it out now it seems lynx inserts spaces around the alt text, so it just looks a little gappy... w3m and links are interesting too, but certainly it's always recognisable.) from something i read recently, it sounds like even the simplistic email-masking techniques like somebody at somewhere dot com are still pretty effective (which surprises me!) - so this ought to be doubly effective, i hope. gosh darn it, *i'm* not going to be the reason anyone gets spam, if i can possibly help it! just hope i'm not too late... - -damon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 19:41:52 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Mixerman chronicles / Angel series end!?! Hi, Bill noted: >The Angel information is from an article that I read in my local paper. >They quoted David Boreanz and Josh Whedon saying that there was the >possibility of Angel being cancelled after the season ending episode. >Probably and hopefully not true. Sadly, it is true... _Angel_ is one of those "on the bubble" shows, the fate of which will be revealed when the WB releases its fall schedule on Monday. The season finale was written from the perspective that it may have to serve as the series finale, in which case we won't be left quite so high and dry as _Dark Angel_'s demise left us a year ago (that show ended on essentially a cliffhanger, with now no hope of resolution). There appears to be a possibility that UPN might pick up _Angel_ if the WB drops it. That would be a good thing. Picking up _Buffy_ turned out to be a good move for them. >I like the twists of the storyline that >happened last night. They can really take the show in many new >directions now. Oh yes, definitely!! =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:14:53 -0700 From: Noe Venable Subject: Re: ecto-digest V9 #128 speaking of bay area venues, there's a very wonderful, very Ecto concert happening at the Starry Plough tonight, in Berkeley, CA. Dawn the Faun is headlining, she of the band Faun Fables. Opening is Joanna Newsom, who sings and plays the harp (!) She's very quirky and wonderful. Last time I saw her she covered the theme song from the Last Unicorn. Also Jesca Hoop, from the band Majesty's Monkey, who I haven't heard, but I've heard that they are very much in the same vocal and musical realm as Kate Bush. I know it's late notice, but if any Ectophiles are going, do tell :) best, Noe V. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 21:22:13 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: ecto-digest V9 #128 Hi, Noe mentioned: >Dawn the Faun is headlining, she of the band Faun Fables. Faun Fables were in NYC last week, but woj and I were lame and didn't go. Did anyone catch any of those shows? =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: 09 May 2003 12:44:49 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: what to choose - what to choose On Fri, 2003-05-09 at 01:22, Yngve Hauge wrote: > Listening to the Charlotte Martin soundclips at cdbaby made > me want that cd now, but ordering just one cd is a waste of > money really. So what new releases to add to that order? well, not exactly new releases, but my last order from them was two Sarah Fimm CDs and Rachel Smith. If you haven't heard them yet you might want to check them out. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Grrr...Arrgh!" -- Mutant - -- 10:24:40 up 3 days, 21:14, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00-- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #129 **************************