From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #125 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, May 5 2003 Volume 09 : Number 125 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Happy Rhodes sale -- recommendations? [Gary Davis ] HR house concert tour update [meredith ] Re:San Diego clubs/Jewel lost/some Blind gigs [cyo@landoftheblind.com] Fwd: Toris Taxivision Contest [Neb Rodgers ] Re: mp3 players [dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu] Re: mp3 players ["Bill" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 08:26:09 -0400 From: Gary Davis Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes sale -- recommendations? At 01:55 AM 5/4/03 -0400, adam k. wrote: > >Okay, so Happy's having a sale on her site. I've got Warpaint, Equipoise, >Building the Colossus and -- of course -- Many Worlds are Born Tonight (and >the left-hand demos). I don't listen to them as much as i should, but what >else should i get? i mean, apart from "everything". Any selective >recommendations? > Well, you can't be on the Ecto list and not have Ecto, LOL!! Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 09:11:48 -0700 From: Jerene Waite Subject: Java Joe's? I was shocked to hear Java Joe's had disappeared from San Diego. It had moved to a different location (with actual alcohol bar) in OB the last time I was there to see Voices on the Verge. But the word (from the Reader online) is that they are relocating again to downtown "sometime early in 2003". The phone number given is out of service and there is no listing according to the phone company under this name. Terami Hirsch has performed at Twiggs, which does collect at the door. I just hesitate to recommend it because it is small and there were about 8 people there the first time she performed (counting the two of us...). Twiggs Tea and Coffee Company, 4590 Park Boulevard, University Heights. 619-296-0616. Welcome To Twiggs Tea & Coffee Hmmm, another one of those days when I find out I should have been there last night.... I suppose you could ask Vienna Teng how it was.... I like Dizzy's downtown for a nice size room and emphasis on music rather than drinks. Dizzy's, 344 Seventh Avenue, downtown. 858-270-7467. Dizzy's - Where the Music Matters Most I will keep checking on Java Joe's because it can't have really gone away. Can it? Jerene ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 13:56:12 -0400 From: meredith Subject: HR house concert tour update Hi, Just in case not everyone has surfed by auntiesocialmusic.com since the May update was posted, here is the latest on the progress of putting together the nationwide house concert tour. >There are issues concerning the tour - that is, we do not currently have >enough potential house concert hosts to warrant HR going to places like >California, Texas, Illinois, Florida and other important areas. Let me try to >be more specific: We have enough offers for San Francisco, but nothing for >the L.A. area. We have only one offer each in the states of MA, CT, PA, >VA, NC, SC, NM, NE, GA, OR, IL and KS. There are many many states in which >we have NO current interest or offers. We'd like to try to get some more >interest in the following areas; Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, NYC >or NY state, DEFINITELY the Los Angeles area and north to San Francisco, >Pennsylvania, Florida, Maryland, Delaware, TEXAS, New Mexico, Arizona, >Illinois and Michigan. > >There are 30 offers to host a house concert and they are spread across the >U.S. very spottily. HR wants to be able to hit all of those areas. We have >official venues to look into as well, but Happy would prefer to have the >focus more on the house concert scene. > >So PLEASE, if you haven't weighed in yet with an offer to host a show, do >so. We need to solidify this tour and I'm really hoping more opportunities >crop up so we can get Happy to those place in the U.S. where people >haven't been able to see her live. Additionally, if you can offer lodging >to Happy and her two bandmates, please let us know. Even if you can't host >a show, lodging will help HR tremendously. >As always, email me at kosterhaudt@aol.com. >And remember, if you've already made an offer, no need to respond. We have >you on our list. So, in the (hopefully unlikely) event that someone out there is able to host a house concert for Happy but hasn't come forward yet, now is the time!! I know there are enough ectophiles out there with big enough living rooms, dining rooms, basement game rooms etc. to set up every date Happy is looking for, and then some. Trust me -- it's a lot of fun, and well worth the effort. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 13:27:44 -0700 From: cyo@landoftheblind.com Subject: Re:San Diego clubs/Jewel lost/some Blind gigs Hello folks and thanks for the info on San Diego clubs, as Blind has completed their winter of isolation and will start to tour again, I love all the club info on the list, as it is a perfect starting ground for booking a small tour (to places already interested in Ecto). I agree about the Jewel comments and thanks for the tip on not buying the new one. I remember seeing her in a tiny coffee shop in Portland when I was still there, thanks to a tip from Michael Pierce, and she was very "Happy-like", humble, funny, clever with a childlike presence and like Happy, a voice that could not be contained in one or two octaves, she had a high sweet pure voice in some songs and a low, sexy strong deep alto in others. Noting that she was very pretty, I figured she might "make" it. Sad that most of the time when someone does, they have already been re-molded into Pop-Putty and hardly resemble their former selves. I guess I should be blessed that I picked a hugely uncommercial path and thus have been left alone to explore said path. Always a delight to read the strong-minded opinions here, and the fact that Ecto listeners truly support "the artist" in many of us, thank the elements!!! love, cyoakha grace Any SF Ectos ??? the following three gigs are local: 1. Brainwash Cafe, "Diva Band Nite", Fri the 9th, BLIND plays at 11pm 1122 Folsom btw. 8th & 7th 415.255.4866 map http://www.brainwash.com/map.swf 2. Freedom Forum/Festival (alternative Mental Health Conf.) Sat. May 17, BLIND plays 11am-12:15 for Free @ Everett Middle School, 450 Church St. & 16th, SF...interesting national group gathering here (SF) in opposition to the national/annual meeting of Am. Psychiatric Assoc. on Sunday @ Mosconi Center. A rally/protest is planned for Sunday...for more info http://www.mindfreedom.org/mindfreedom/m18_main.shtml 3. Memorial Weekend "Wage Peace Dance" BLIND will perform 2 sets nightly, Sat. 24th & Sunday 25th @ 7:30pm Stonefront, Harbin Hot Springs, map http://www.harbin.org/map.htm Come up and relax at one of the most fun weekends all year! Books fast so make your plans early. BLIND will start each night with a dreamy-improv-mediation set & then a dance set! thanks, cyo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Fwd: Toris Taxivision Contest From Rolling Stone and Sony- - ---------------------------- Create Tori Amos' next video! http://toriamos.com/taxivision/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 04 May 2003 19:55:57 -0400 From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Subject: Re: mp3 players "Bill" writes: > I am an audio snob, I mean, a no-loss purist [...] You only listen to live (and I mean *live*, not recorded live) acoustic music? > np: Rick Wakeman - _Can You Hear Me_ err...guess not. Unless you've got Rick over for a house concert. My Dad is an old school acoustic music audio snob. He also did some work for HP Labs on MP3 encoders, and found that he couldn't tell the difference with a high enough bit rate and a decent encoder. I've been convinced that the artifacts from high quality mp3 encoding are small compared to the typical microphone and tape non-linearities; mp3 is pretty well designed for what it does, without all those annoying physical limitaions microphone designers have to deal with. Even with a DDD recording of digital electronic instruments, I'll bet the difference in response between the monitors/headphones you use, and the ones used to mix/monitor the recording, is more audible than the mp3 encoding artifacts. - -dan [not meant as a personal dig, just some perspective] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 22:18:12 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: mp3 players On 04 May 2003 19:55:57 -0400, dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu wrote: >"Bill" writes: >> I am an audio snob, I mean, a no-loss purist [...] > >You only listen to live [...] acoustic music? >[...] >I'll bet the >difference in response between the monitors/headphones you use, and >the ones used to mix/monitor the recording, is more audible than the >mp3 encoding artifacts. Dan: MP3 encoding reduces the information that I already have on a CD, after (not before) the loss already incurred by recording the music and turning it into digital data in the CD format. So, at least in theory, making MP3 files from my CDs and listening to them will provide lower quality, due to data loss, than listening to the CDs themselves. Whether or not I can actually hear that loss is the big argument. My analytical brain says I can; my ears are still in debate. Anyway, it's one of those "glass is half full" arguments. If MP3s do it for you, I am happy that you have found a format that is much more portable than CDs. For me, MP3s (at least of my CDs) are not as good as the CDs themselves, even if for no other reason than my analytical brain telling me so. But, no sweat, at home I am not in need of the compression afforded by MP3s; and, outdoors, with all of the environmental noise, MP3s are good enough. Thanks for your perspective, though. - - Bill G. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #125 **************************