From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #109 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, April 19 2003 Volume 09 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- new stuff [anna maria "stjärnell" ] How do they do this? ["Phillip Hudson" ] Re: new stuff [Sebastien andrivet ] EVANESCENCE and annoying voices [irvin lin ] Re: Need info about Hetch Hetchy [Yngve Hauge ] Re: Name this song II ["Anthony Horan" ] Re: How do they do this? ["Anthony Horan" ] Re: Unlistenable singers [John Higdon ] RE: Name this song II: Now, whose voice can't you stand? [John Higdon Subject: new stuff Hi Some new stuff. Jay-Jay Johanson Antenna Apperently hes a big star in France..His native Sweden has been less kind. This new album sees him doing anodyne electronica. It sounds terribly slick, and with no real soul. Johanson has a fey little voice that doesnt go well with the dramatic sounds. They call for a first class drama queen. He does a hommage to Bowie on the cover while were on the subject of drama queens. The cover of Automatic Lover is lively though. Robyn Dont Stop the music Ex-teenage prodigy goes electro..well if only. Most of the album is slick(do we swedes only do that these days?). Some songs hint at more interesting stuff. Blow My Mind has Guy Sigsworth producing and it shows. Its mindblowing and sexy. Kiss me quick Im about to burst enthuses Robyn. Pity she didnt keep that level of excitment up. Claire Hammill Touchpaper Not new but never mind...Hammill was perfect here. The very Kate Bushean The Moon is a powerful Lover is brilliantly atmospheric and cool. Other songs like Denmark are just as good. Oh and about production..its important but some albums I love sound like they were recorded in a sink..like the Pixies first one. Its all about the songs or grooves. Anna Maria Np-The Knife-Deep Cuts Nr-The best of dreams of decadence The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 01:16:55 -0700 From: "Phillip Hudson" Subject: How do they do this? ceramiumThe following is a header of a spam offering mortgage refinancing that came to me. How did these weasels make the Happy connection? Do they mine addresses from the digests, or is Happy moonlighting in the online refi business? And what is a string type drink? Inquiring minds, etc. p -----Original Message----- From: md9daiku@yahoo.com [mailto:md9daiku@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:47 AM To: aiku@pacbell.net Subject: HAPPY RHODES StringType drink loeslich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:29:27 +0200 From: Sebastien andrivet Subject: Re: new stuff At 0:33 -0700 18/04/03, anna maria "stjrnell" wrote: >Hi > >Some new stuff. > >Jay-Jay Johanson Antenna > >Apperently hes a big star in France.. The previous album sold well since "Keep it a secret" was a hit. The newest album seems to have disappointed anyone who listened to it. - -- ____________________________________________________________ Sebastien Andrivet. "On est tout de mjme pas venus ici pour beurrer des sandwichs ?" Raoul Volfoni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 02:11:15 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: EVANESCENCE and annoying voices >>> Evanescence - Bring Me to Life. Sounds like Linkin Park with a >>> female singer. >>> Christian band, just like Creed by the way. Though it has been mentioned before on this list, EVANESCENCE have tried to distance themselves from the Christian music category, and have actually asked to have their album pulled from the Christian music market. There's an article about this pull from the market on MTV.com - the link is http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1471313/20030416/story.jhtml Anyway I actually downloaded a copy of the album to give it a listen and I didn't really find it all that interesting. The nu-metal guitar work was rather overblown and the rest of the CD rather not to my taste. I should probably give it another couple of listens before I delete it permanently. On a different note, I just wanted to add that I actually ABSOLUTELY adore NINA SIMONE though I can see why someone wouldn't like her voice. For me it works and it works wonders. I get shivers whenever I hear her perform certain songs. And I also love VICTORIA WILLIAMS voice as well. I do find GWEN STEFANI's voice rather annoying. And as much as I loved MACY GRAY's first album, I didn't care for her singing on her second album. Her latest album (it gets released in may - I have a promo copy) is better, but I found her voice even MORE annoying than on the second album. I just like the songs better. But someone needs to get her a throat lozenge. Irvin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:32:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Need info about Hetch Hetchy Thanks ... Sometimes the artists/labels don't make it easy for us poor people who are supposed to find out what we are listening to whatsoever. At those times it is nice to have google, but as seen in this case it didn't help much either so back to those people thingies :) - -- Yngve ****************************************** * E-mail: onealien@mo.himolde.no ********* * Cell: +47 41330571 ********************* ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 06:12:55 +1000 From: "Anthony Horan" Subject: Re: Name this song II (I inadvertantly sent this reply direct to John the other day; I'm sure subsequent posts have outdated me since :) > >Evanescence - Bring Me to Life. Sounds like Linkin Park with a female singer. > >Christian band, just like Creed by the way. > > I can't say that I've heard enough Linkin Park or Creed to > recognize similarities between them and any other band, as I don't listen > to the radio anymore. Note, however, that the song in question--Bring Me > To Life--is IIRC the only one on the album to feature much in the way of a > male vocal, or that rappish segue near the end. The interesting thing is that there's a version of this song circulating around the MP3 traps under the title "Wake Me Up Inside" and tagged as a "2002 demo". This version - which sounds for all the world like a finished, "proper" recording - has no male rap vocal on it at all, and is all the better for it (the comparisons to Linkin Park are in part due to the presence of this on the released version, I think). The rap vocal may well have been a "make it appeal to the kids" record company suggestion. It certainly sounds like it :) The vocal is not by a member of Evanescence, by the way - it's Paul McCoy from fellow Wind Up band 12 Stones. Oh, and FWIW Creed also have denied they're a Christian band. Since they share the same label, either there's an A&R policy at work here or a label publicist with a favourite angle :-) - - Anthony ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 08:38:10 +1000 From: "Anthony Horan" Subject: Re: How do they do this? >The following is a header of a spam offering mortgage refinancing > that came to me. > How did these weasels make the Happy connection? Do they mine addresses > from the digests, or is Happy moonlighting in the online refi business? They probably harvested it from fa.music.ecto on Usenet, which cheerfully mirrors everything on this list for the benefit of spam harvesters everywhere :) The day I realised that newsgroup existed was the day I started using a generic spam-attracting email address on Ecto...! > And what is a string type drink? Thin and long. Like lambrusco. :-) - - Anthony ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:54:19 -0600 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: Unlistenable singers At 10:07 AM 4/17/2003 -0400, JavaHo@aol.com wrote: >Well, Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen seem to be charter members of this list. >How about Nina Simone (female Leonard Cohen, IMHO)? Marianne Faithfull? >Patti Smith? Randy Newman? Oddly, some of these folks are top notch >poets/songwriters, but they should probably consider letting others do the >honors. I'm not familiar enough with many of the others to comment. But I'll definitely second any recommendation for Randy Newman here. Not long ago, I was subjected to repeated attacks of him singing the jingle to some long-assed Ford commercial on the television. I just couldn't understand how this was supposed to appeal to anyone, his voice was so bad. Lessee, other grating voices? The Flaming Lips singer on that song some years back, She Don't Use Jelly or somesuch. Sinead O'Connor on that song that made her famous, Nothing Compares To U. The Billy Myers CD someone once lent me. Cher, in that Do You Believe song. These songs drive me nuts. Actually, I'm probably pretty liberal in the voice department. I mean, I realize that a voice like, say, Lisa Germano's, is not a good one by most standards. But it fits her songs well enough, fits my mood sometimes, and so I've never actually considered it really to be grating. >I'm sorry to say that perennial ecto-fave Victoria Williams is on that >list for me, too. Yeah, I know what you mean. I bought, er, Happy Come Home and Swing the Statue (if memory serves me on the titles) a long way back, on the strength of Ecto recommendations and the Sweet Relief tribute album. I listened to 'em a couple times, haven't tried again in some time. I just couldn't stand her own versions of her songs. They tended to sound way overproduced to me, but mostly, it was that I couldn't stand her voice. (Which is saying something, since I usually am known to have a predilection for squeaky-voiced female singers.) John Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:56:31 -0600 From: John Higdon Subject: RE: Name this song II: Now, whose voice can't you stand? At 09:57 PM 4/16/2003 +0000, neal copperman wrote: >Phillip Hudson said: > > They also both tend to over-pronounce certain words, for example; > "Gurrrll", > > which somehow inexplicably offends my sensibilities. >What do you think of Tori? >:) Actually, Tori doesn't over-pronounce words so much as turn them into completely different words. 8^P Ah, but we love her anyway.... John Higdon ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #109 **************************