From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #108 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, April 18 2003 Volume 09 : Number 108 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Name this song II [Greg Bossert ] Re: Name this song II [Dan_Stark ] RE: OTR reference on Angel?! ["William Mazur" ] Re: Now, whose voice can't you stand? [Greg Bossert ] RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't you stand?) [] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) [] hellish voices (as opposed to the heavenly ones...) ["John Zimmer" ] Need info about Hetch Hetchy [Yngve Hauge ] Evanescence ["dave" ] Re: Need info about Hetch Hetchy [Greg Bossert ] Standing up for guys called Phil [Phillip Hudson ] RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) [] Re: Standing up for guys called Phil [Greg Bossert ] Azam Ali - Children of Dune's Inama Nushif (plus: Hi, I'm new here) :) [S] Some East Coast happenings [Dan Stark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:59:06 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Name this song II >> Evanescence - Bring Me to Life. Sounds like Linkin Park with a >> female singer. >> Christian band, just like Creed by the way. actually, most of the album is much more goth than the aforementioned track (which the All Music guide aptly tags "PG-rated nu-metal ;-) most of the other tracks feature more strings and choir, less crunchy guitar. lots of piano. i actually like Amy Lee's voice quite a bit -- she's just a bit young, song-wise. i would humbly suggest that Ecto-folk keep an ear out for subsequent efforts -- particularly those into the goth/Projekt scene -- and avoid easy categorizations... - -g - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 02:06:26 -0400 From: Dan_Stark Subject: Re: Name this song II I called them a Christian band because that's the first thing I ever heard about that band when somebody mentioned them to me, and I just assumed it was true. I see that they did top the Christian radio charts for a while, and are still in the top 10 in that format on R&R's chart this week. Upon further Googling though, I found an article that claimed Wind-Up Records put the album out as a Christian record without the band's approval, and that the band denies their music is specifically Christian. It seems the spin doctors are busy with this so who really knows? Maybe their lyrics are just so cheezy that no one really wants to analyze them. ;) Apparently the singer is a big Tori fan though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:14:22 -0700 From: "William Mazur" Subject: RE: OTR reference on Angel?! Billi and I heard the same thing. Aren't Buffy and Angel both getting really wild? Apocalypse anywhere you look. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of John Higdon Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:17 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: OTR reference on Angel?! At 10:36 PM 4/16/2003 -0400, meredith wrote: >Does anyone know if Jeffrey Bell, the writer and director of tonight's >episode of _Angel_ is an Over The Rhine fan, or at least a friend of the band? > >During the "open mic" scene, woj and I are both 100% sure that the little >boy that was on the podium recited, "Why I Love Jasmine, By Linford >Detweiler". Somehow I don't think that name could possibly be a coincidence. You're not the only ones to have picked up on that! I thought sure that I must have misheard.... John Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:20:41 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Now, whose voice can't you stand? funny, but i like the voices of almost everyone mentioned so far. that's not to say that i think that they have classically well-trained voices, or even that, abstractly, i would never find their voices pleasant, but rather that, for the most part, they use what voice they have effectively in presenting their songs, and that can transform the annoying into the interesting... some examples: Neil Young's barely-hanging-on-to-the-note approach gives his songs a strange sort of fragile quality that quite effectively contrasts his lyrics and guitar playing. and Stevie Nicks frantic croaking turns what could be folk-rock into something much darker. and Tom Waits probably *is* drunk ;) but he is also working in a tradition that leads back through Captain Beefheart to the old-time delta blues, where that growl is a sign of having paid your dues. and Snipe, erm, Stipe, well, he is an old art student type, after all, but if you put his approach into the context of the southern gothic sort of thing (which is much more evident in REMs early days), it makes sense... um. who else? Billy Corgan's stuff would sound downright silly if sung well -- he's just a big teenager playing the vocal equivalent of air guitar. the Roches, erm, okay, meth pegged them ;) anyway, my point is just that the music can make a wrong voice right, and vice versa. - -g - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:24:58 -0700 From: "William Mazur" Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't you stand?) Sorry Bill! ;-) - -----Original Message----- From: Bill [mailto:bill@wagill.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:11 PM To: William Mazur Cc: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't you stand?) Darn, I had meant to put a "Bill M. is not eligible to play." disclaimer in my post! I *knew* you would know. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Michael Klouda (no Email address) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Marty Lash Sat May 01 1948 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 00:24:29 -0700 From: "Phillip Hudson" Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) Ok, Anderson trivia continued: On whose (musically great, BTW) album did he provide stellar vocals for "In High Places"? Extra bonus gummy bear for the name of the album. And yes, Bill M, you can play :) Phil - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of jzitt@metatronpress.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:30 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) Original Message: - ----------------- From: William Mazur wpm@value.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:29:07 -0700 To: bill@wagill.com, ecto@smoe.org Subject: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) > I have a trivia question for you all. What CD of a famous prog rock > band, which was the 3rd for this band, did Jon Anderson sing on as a > guest? Hint: My n.p. gives you a clue. This one is pretty easy too. :-) Ooh! Ooh! "Prince Rupert Awakes", from King Crimson's "Lizard". n.p.i.m.h. See above - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 00:38:42 -0700 From: "John Zimmer" Subject: hellish voices (as opposed to the heavenly ones...) I'll go ahead and add my vote the those already cast for Cohen, Dylan and Waits, while also granting that all three have written some incredible songs (no, duh). A couple of excellent recordings that show off those songs to wonderful effect are Jennifer Warnes' _Famous Blue Raincoat_ (all Leonard Cohen songs) and Holly Cole's _Temptation_ (Tom Waits songs). FWIW, "Train Song" on _Temptation_ makes a kick-ass subwoofer demo track, as well. :) John np: Tori, "Taxi Ride", on Leno ------------------------------ Date: 17 Apr 2003 19:32:08 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Name this song II: Now, whose voice can't you stand? On Thu, 2003-04-17 at 10:23, russvr wrote: > Michael Macdonald - Doobie Bros - he should be summarily shot. > Phil Collins - same punishment. Oh no - let's spare the old fart. I admit to having a soft spot for him, because for all his many offences in the last.. well... twenty years or so, he still was a member of early Genesis - one of the more interesting, progressive, alternative bands of their time. Not to mention he *is* a shit-hot drummer. Just take that mike away from him! - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "I have always tried to live in an ivory tower, but a tide of shit is beating at its walls, threatening to undermine it." -- Gustave Flaubert - -- 19:24:51 up 6 days, 1:19, 4 users, load average: 0.18, 0.10, 0.02-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:56:57 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: OTR reference on Angel Meth wrote: > < boy that was on the podium recited, "Why I Love Jasmine, By Linford > Detweiler". Somehow I don't think that name could possibly be a > coincidence.>> > > This has nothing to do with Angel -- just a stupid story about Linford. > Since Over the Rhine are from Cincinnati (where I happen to live), I once > met Linford Detweiler at a Holly Cole concert here in town. I was sitting > with my (now ex-) husband Bob when we noticed him drinking beer at a table > by himself. I said to Bob, "That's the guy from Over the Rhine!" And he > replied, "I think his name is Linford Detweiler." The name just sounded so > funny to me that I walked over to him and said in a somewhat scoffing way, > "My husband thinks your name is Linford Detweiler." I was totally > embarrassed when he said, "It is." I'll never forget his name again! If you haven't listened to any of Linford's piano music, you should. He has two albums out, and they're both very pleasant. He's a truly talented musician. Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:07:15 -0400 From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: Unlistenable singers Well, Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen seem to be charter members of this list. How about Nina Simone (female Leonard Cohen, IMHO)? Marianne Faithfull? Patti Smith? Randy Newman? Oddly, some of these folks are top notch poets/songwriters, but they should probably consider letting others do the honors. I'm sorry to say that perennial ecto-fave Victoria Williams is on that list for me, too. Singers whose voices I don't mind that much but their singing style drives me nuts: Iris DeMent (too whiney) Mary Margaret O'Hara (too affected/stammering) Michael Stipe (too into his own heartfelt angst) Eddie Vedder (too growly/affected) Creed's lead singer (cross between Eddie Vedder and Cher) Darius Rucker/Hootie (Eddie Vedder lite) Roches - this one I'm 50/50 on. When they don't do the afore-mentioned cat-yowling presentation, they harmonize beautifully. Unfortunately, they can't seem to stop themselves long enough to do an entire listenable album. I know there are more...why can't I think of them? Although I don't usually care for singers who don't have a good solid voice or whose grasp on a melody is slippery at best, I love Neil Young. When I was in the biz, we called it the Neil Young exemption whenever we recorded someone who was not technically a good singer, but it worked. Ron Sexsmith falls into this category for me. Probably Tom Petty, too. My hubby is a Tom Waits devotee, so I can't comment other than to say that I can appreciate him in small doses. Lisa n.p - Bruce Cockburn - The Charity of Night n.r. - Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West by Gregory Maguire (highly recommend his books!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:17:14 -0700 From: "William Mazur" Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) I don't know the answer to this one. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Hudson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:24 AM To: jzitt@metatronpress.com; ecto@smoe.org Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) Ok, Anderson trivia continued: On whose (musically great, BTW) album did he provide stellar vocals for "In High Places"? Extra bonus gummy bear for the name of the album. And yes, Bill M, you can play :) Phil - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of jzitt@metatronpress.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:30 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) Original Message: - ----------------- From: William Mazur wpm@value.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:29:07 -0700 To: bill@wagill.com, ecto@smoe.org Subject: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) > I have a trivia question for you all. What CD of a famous prog rock > band, which was the 3rd for this band, did Jon Anderson sing on as a > guest? Hint: My n.p. gives you a clue. This one is pretty easy too. :-) Ooh! Ooh! "Prince Rupert Awakes", from King Crimson's "Lizard". n.p.i.m.h. See above - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:25:42 -0400 From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Re: RE: Bill's Trivia Question Mike Oldfield, "Crises" I think. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 23:53:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Need info about Hetch Hetchy Hi, My copy of Hetch Hetchy's Swollen album had this used sticker thingy on the back and even when removing it I can't read the songtitles. Could someone please help me there? - -- Yngve ****************************************** * E-mail: onealien@mo.himolde.no ********* * Cell: +47 41330571 ********************* ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:48:46 -0400 From: "dave" Subject: Evanescence I picked up the Evanescence CD a few days back.. like it a lot. There was some discussion recently on the Grey Eye Glances forum about Evanescence's vocalist, Amy Lee, sounding a bit like a pissed off Jennifer Nobel, kinda does a bit I guess.. Couple of nice ethereal sounding songs in between the harder stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:39:35 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Need info about Hetch Hetchy On Thursday, Apr 17, 2003, at 14:53 US/Pacific, Yngve Hauge wrote: > My copy of Hetch Hetchy's Swollen album had this used sticker thingy > on the back and even when removing it I can't read the songtitles. > Could someone please help me there? even without sticker goop they are hard to read -- i had to pull the paper bit out of the case, and check about on the web. i'm pretty sure that these are close: Commonplace Heavens Satanette Perfect Puzzle Mango Wienie Retsina Bow Song Erotic CPR Mother's Drum i think about these guys all the time, since the aquaduct that brings water form Hetch Hetchy to San Francisco ends just a mile or so from my house, in the mysterious Pulgas Water Temple. lots of odd connections to Hetch Hetchy, too, from REM to Matthew Sweet to Hugo Largo, etc. 'tah. - -g - -- Gregory Bossert - -- phone: +49.30/5 900 800-165 - -- fax: +49.30/5 900 800-700 - -- http://www.netzwert.ag/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:58:36 -0700 From: Phillip Hudson Subject: Standing up for guys called Phil Meanwhile, Andrew is bravely defending Phil Collins' honor: ...> Phil Collins - same punishment. "Oh no - let's spare the old fart... he still was a member of early Genesis - one of the more interesting, progressive, alternative bands of their time. Not to mention he *is* a shit-hot drummer. Just take that mike away from him!" Collins is also a devout advocate of the homeless, and other worthy causes, and has publicly exhorted his fans at events not to buy a Phil Collins T-shirt or program, but instead make a donation at one of the charity stations set up around the gig. He's also helped a lot of younger musicians along the path. He is pretty much an all-round good guy, so no shooting. He's just sort of become his own musical cliche. However, I do recall that Phil and P. Gabriel, Esq. pretty much invented the HUGE reverberated and gated drum sounds, along with many other really cool studio production tricks, which have since passed though innovation and industry standard to overuse. Phil (no relation) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:24:33 -0400 From: "jzitt@metatronpress.com" Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) That would be Mike Oldfield, from the "Crises" album. I'll take Shoe Sizes of Fuzzy Blue Monsters Named Alice for $400... Original Message: - ----------------- From: Phillip Hudson aiku@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 00:24:29 -0700 To: jzitt@metatronpress.com, ecto@smoe.org Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) Ok, Anderson trivia continued: On whose (musically great, BTW) album did he provide stellar vocals for "In High Places"? Extra bonus gummy bear for the name of the album. And yes, Bill M, you can play :) Phil - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of jzitt@metatronpress.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:30 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: RE: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) Original Message: - ----------------- From: William Mazur wpm@value.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:29:07 -0700 To: bill@wagill.com, ecto@smoe.org Subject: Bill's Trivia Question (WAS: RE: Now, whose voice can't youstand?) > I have a trivia question for you all. What CD of a famous prog rock > band, which was the 3rd for this band, did Jon Anderson sing on as a > guest? Hint: My n.p. gives you a clue. This one is pretty easy too. :-) Ooh! Ooh! "Prince Rupert Awakes", from King Crimson's "Lizard". n.p.i.m.h. See above - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:53:26 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Standing up for guys called Phil On Thursday, Apr 17, 2003, at 16:58 US/Pacific, Phillip Hudson wrote: > Meanwhile, Andrew is bravely defending Phil Collins' honor: > > ...> Phil Collins - same punishment. > > "Oh no - let's spare the old fart... he still was a member of early > Genesis - one of the more > interesting, progressive, alternative bands of their time. Not to > mention he *is* a shit-hot drummer. Just take that mike away from him!" and a founder of Brand X -- anyone who helps get more Percy Jones bass parts recorded is OK in my books... ironically, given that mr. Collins got his singing start first by singing backup for -- and subsequently by literally imitating -- Peter Gabriel, i actually think that Phil has the better voice of the two. mind you, Peter has done remarkable things with a relatively limited voice, whereas one could argue that Phil has done less with more, as it were. but post-Peter Genesis and mr. Collins solo work really isn't as mundane as it sounds. so to speak. dearly as i love Peter Gabriel's work, and deeply as i respect what he has done with the Real World label and studio, he does want you to know that he is an Artist, whereas i think Phil Collins just likes what he does, and is therefore less likely to be taken Seriously. plus, he's a shit-hot drummer ;) > Collins is also a devout advocate of the homeless, and other worthy > causes, > and has publicly exhorted his fans at events not to buy a Phil Collins > T-shirt or program, but instead make a donation at one of the charity > stations set up around the gig. He's also helped a lot of younger > musicians > along the path. He is pretty much an all-round good guy, so no > shooting. > He's just sort of become his own musical cliche. > > However, I do recall that Phil and P. Gabriel, Esq. pretty much > invented > the HUGE reverberated and gated drum sounds yup, with help from Producer/Engineer Steve Lillywhite (or perhaps the other way 'round -- there is some debate on the topic) and don't forget that concert tom fill from "In the Air Tonight" -- the simplest, most noticed "drum solo" since "With a Little Help from my Friends". - -g - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 04:34:11 +0200 From: Sander Subject: Azam Ali - Children of Dune's Inama Nushif (plus: Hi, I'm new here) :) Hi all, Last month the sci-fi channel in the USA showed the Children of Dune miniseries - http://www.scifi.com/dune/trailers/index.html - based on Frankt Herbert's Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. Besides the spectacular absence of bad special effects (as opposed to the first miniseries) :) the most remarkable thing about this miniseries was the at times absolutely beautiful music. This reached its peak quite close to the end of the first episode, in a three-and-a-half-minute lasting musical piece around the birth of Paul's twins. (I don't know how many of you watched it, but based on recent mentions of Buffy and Angel I have some hope that there will have been at least a few.) One of the uppermost thoughts in my mind after having finished watching the series was to find me that song. After some searching I discovered there was a soundtrack for Children of Dune - http://www.varesesarabande.com/details.asp?pid=302%2D066%2D454%2D2 - (which I hope to ever see in a store so I can buy it on the spot), and that the name of the song was Inama Nushif (you can download a 49 seconds clip at that site). After finding a full version I've had it pretty much on continuous repeat for the last two weeks (only being interrupted by the occasional spin of my recent expressions of EWS, "The Beauty of the Rain" and "Bound by the Beauty"). Anyway, I'd been planning for a few days now to fire off an email to the list to see if anybody knew who was actually singing in Inama Nushif (as it is most definitely ecto-fair), when just now I stumbled upon an interview with her; her being finally revealed as Azam Ali (from Vas). Who, some quick googling revealed to me, has been mentioned previously here at ecto, for her album "Portals of Grace" - http://www.narada.com/images/AlbumPage/Portals/portalsgrace_page.htm The interview, talking about how Vas was started and how she approaches her music - "I use my voice more as an instrument to express emotion rather than as a medium for expressing words" - might be interesting to people here: http://groups.msn.com/TheLandsraad/azamali.msnw Okay, so that was the point at which I started writing this, intending to ask those of you who've heard Inama Nushif how it compares with her work on that album, and/or with that of Vas, and/or if anyone knew where to download mp3/ogg clips of her work, as all I could find were silly realaudio clips, and no way that program will ever be allowed to touch my computer. But I've just noticed that the interview page has links to 30 second clips for all numbers on "Portals of Grace", so I guess I can now answer most of my question myself *grins* - though I'm still interested in other opinions. Mostly "Portals of Grace" has too many eastern influences for my taste (although I guess this is mostly due to not being familiar with them), and isn't as ... hauntingly beautiful as Inama Nushif (haunting isn't quite the right way to describe it though; it's more soothing, except that that isn't it either) :) - but some numbers (O Felix for one) do call out to me. Beyond this: Hi, I'm new here. :) Or at least new to posting, as I'd been reading the archives for a few months already before finally subscribing somewhere last week. I'm Sander from the Netherlands. I study computer science and have been "just one month away" from completing my Master's thesis for the last few months now. I was Happyvangelized by Marion nearly two years ago; at that point the music I liked which could be described as ectophilic was limited to Enya, Loreena and Sarah, although I was pondering buying Catie Curtis' "A Crash Course in Roses" (which due to Magnolia Street still ranks somewhere very near the top of my favorite albums). Anyhoo, since then I attended a Lowland Fling, and have been rapidly spiraling down into discovering ever more wonderful music. I still lack a lot of knowledge of the basics, but am slowly making up for it. Current favorite artists include Dar Williams, Jane Siberry, Basque, Grey Eye Glances and of course Happy. Oh, and a local dutch celtic band called Anois, who - besides doing the occasional Clannad cover - are setting the songs from the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings to music, with sometimes very beautiful results. They're in the process of making their first cd, but some old demo tracks can be downloaded from their website - http://anois.info/id6.htm - - (try The Fall of Gil-Galad) - although naturally the quality of this won't be comparable with the final version. *grins* Sorry, enough rambling from me, I'll shut up now. :) May you always find shade and water, Sander n.p. Azam Ali - Inama Nushif n.r. Robin Hobb - Royal Assassin (rereading as she's coming to the Netherlands next week) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 00:11:53 -0400 From: Dan Stark Subject: Some East Coast happenings Someone just posted about Kristin Hoffman over on the Sarah Slean list. She flew under my radar until now, although looking back I see she made a couple members' best-of lists for last year. Judging by those reviews, along with the samples I just listened to on her web site, she sounds really interesting! She's playing at Arlene's Grocery in NYC for the next two Wednesdays if anyone in the area is interested. Here are some other upcoming shows worth noting too... Charlotte Martin finally comes to NYC Sin-E, May 1 Mercury Lounge, May 2 Terami Hirsch Lots of dates all over the place until mid-May. East coast stops include Boston, Newport, RI, and Philadelphia (which is the one I'll be at). Dan ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #108 **************************