From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #59 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, March 2 2003 Volume 09 : Number 059 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Jonatha / War MP3 download ["John Zimmer" ] No birthdays, just a monthly listing [Mike Matthews ] short report from Richmond [Scott Burger ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:37:29 -0800 From: "John Zimmer" Subject: Re: Jonatha / War MP3 download Amy wrote: >For us Jonatha fans out there. I actually prefer the older version but >his song is a good one no matter the version! I got errors trying to use the link Amy provided, but found the song linked from the main page of the site: http://jonathabrooke.com/core.html The direct link is: http://jonathabrooke.com/media/mp3/JonathaBrooke-War.mp3 One of those oughtta work. Thanks for the info about the song, Amy! John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 03:00:05 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: No birthdays, just a monthly listing - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marvin Camras Sat January 01 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 03 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 04 1967 Capricorn Paul Cohen Tue January 05 1954 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 08 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 09 1962 OfTheTimes Troy J. Shadbolt Thu January 14 1971 Capricorn Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Dennis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 ...of the Saint Ross Alford Thu January 17 1957 Positive Nancy Whitney Mon January 19 1959 slippery when wet Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson Tue January 20 1970 Seanympf-Aquarius David Beery Tue January 20 1976 drum Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker Sarah McLachlan Sun January 28 1968 Aquarius Ilka Heber Mon February 01 1965 Mermaid Bob Lovejoy Sun February 02 1947 Aquarius Diane Burke Sat February 02 1963 slow children Timothy S. Devine Tue February 03 1970 Aquarius Stephen Thomas Fri February 04 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Joel Siegfried February 19 Penguin Crossing Linda Saboe Tue February 20 1951 aimless Teresa Ross Wed February 23 1977 pisces Michael Curry Fri February 24 1967 Pisces Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Peter Clark Thu March 04 1948 Pedestrian Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 Eat at Joe's Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! Michael Pearce Wed April 03 1946 Pegasus Michael E. Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries Marcel Kshensky Thu April 06 1950 Aries Bill Mazur Mon April 06 1953 Aries Sun/Cancer Rising David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Heidi Heller Mon April 08 1974 Aries Jill Hughes Sat April 09 1955 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries Jerry Tue April 13 1971 Aries Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Marty Lash Sat May 01 1948 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Julia Macklin Mon May 20 1968 ethereus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Taina Sahlander Mon May 28 1973 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Dave Upham Sun June 15 1958 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Pr. SAFH Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist Mike Connell Sat June 18 1955 Apollo David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Leo rising Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer Samantha Tanner Tue June 30 1970 Wild Goose BunkyTom Tue July 02 1968 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 03 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 05 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 05 1971 Cancer John J Henshon Mon July 05 1954 The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon Jim Gurley Mon July 06 1959 Cancer Lisa Rouchka Fri July 08 1960 Moonchild with Java Rising Courtney Dallas Fri July 09 1971 Catte Michael Peskura Sat July 09 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer R. Rapp Wed July 14 1954 On a Gray Eye Sojourn John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Dan Stark Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Vlad Sat July 18 1970 Warning: severe tire damage Jani Pinola Thu July 20 1972 Jonquil Alvin Brattli Sun July 27 1969 Lefthanded Christy Eger Smith Thu July 27 1944 Horse Crossing Shirley Ye July 27 Lioness woj Sun July 28 1968 children at play John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Chuck Smith Wed July 30 1958 Reboot Yves Denneulin Fri July 30 1971 Lion-Heart Joel Kenyon Wed July 31 1963 Leo Eli Brandt August 05 Leo Amanda Williams Tue August 05 1969 phoenix Martin Bridges Sat August 08 1970 BigGuy Rosana L. de Oliveira Wed August 08 1973 Leo Happy Rhodes Mon August 09 1965 HolyGhost Loretta Pontillo Tue August 15 1978 Leo Queen of the Jungle Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive Tori Amos Thu August 22 1963 Leo Sam Warren Tue August 22 1961 Leo Henk Van Wulpen Sat August 22 1970 Leo Kerry White Wed August 22 1951 Exact Leo/Virgo Don Gibson Wed August 26 1959 Virgo Marcel Rijs Mon August 31 1970 A rose growing old Meredith Tarr Wed September 01 1971 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 04 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 04 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Sharon Nichols - Terra Incognita Wed September 11 1963 Victim of Christianity Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer Dan Riley Sun October 08 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 08 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 08 1968 Crunchy Frog Mike Garland Wed October 08 1952 Creature_of_the_Night Irvin Lin Tue October 09 1973 Libra Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Chris Gagnon Sat October 10 1970 Libra Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Gracescape Fri October 13 1967 unbalanced Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Anthony Amato Sat October 20 1973 Libra Suzanne DeCory Tue October 22 1968 Balancing Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Tara MacLean Thu October 25 1973 Scorpio Elin Sjoelie Fri October 25 1974 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Anna Pryde Wed November 05 1975 Scorpio Sun; Sagittarius Moon; Pisces Rising Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio Rachel Kramer Bussel Mon November 10 1975 Scorpio Neb Rodgers Tue November 10 1959 Space Available - Inquire Within Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Craig Gidney November 11 Scorpio Michael Doyle Wed November 12 1969 Scorpio Marla Tiara Tue November 13 1973 Scorpio Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus Naama Avramzon Mon November 18 1974 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Anja Baldo Tue November 23 1965 Garbanzo Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Valerie Kraemer November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Lenore December 05 sagi Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Damon Harper Tue December 16 1975 COOL BANANAS Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:16:16 -0500 From: Scott Burger Subject: short report from Richmond http://www.timesdispatch.com/frontpage/MGBMURDIPCD.html http://richmond.com/business/output.cfm?ID=2414262&vertical=Business http://www.media-alliance.org/action/fcc_FULL_forprint.pdf Hi, I would like to thank everyone who attended the FCC Hearing in Richmond yesterday. Despite the rain, sleet, snow, despite it being a workday (I took the day off as a vacation day), many people made the point of coming down and speaking. I had a sore throat and did not speak myself, but I did not have to thanks to all the wonderful speakers. My only question is if anyone outside of the hearing room really heard them. Before I get to that though, let me give a quick run down. We had a fair amount of snow and sleet move in to Richmond Wednesday afternoon and evening, so we focused on plans around the Flicker program at the Canal Club that night. James Parrish, Richmond Moving Image Coop's director, did a wonderful job of alerting all the people to the issue and introducing speakers after the regular Flicker program. I was impressed by the 60 or 70 people that came to Flicker despite the elements outside. Prometheus' Philadelphia crew arrived in the middle soon after the regular Flicker program began. I took them to get a quick bite and then returned to the program. My apologies if I seemed gruff and anti-social, I was feeling pretty crappy. After Flicker was over we went to the Fusion space that houses Radio Free Richmond. Alan Schintzious, the guy behind Fusion and the President of the Virginia Center for Public Press, graciously allowed the majority of the crew to stay upstairs in his residential area. We stayed up for a while in RFR's basement studio working on posters. We were hoping some more people from Chicago were going to arrive but evidently they were delayed. The next morning the sleet and rain was in full effect. I went to the Pace Center on Franklin but it was locked and no one was there. So that meeting was quickly cancelled and we concentrated on getting people to the Convention Center. I went out to get some breakfast food for any one who needed it. At first the security guard tried to tell us to leave, we were on 'private property', until we mentioned that it was a public hearing. We eventually did have a group of about 20 people or so demonstrate for a short while in front of the Convention Center on 5th St, though the rain kept coming. We spoke to a few reporters and passed out copies of the Media Alliance's booklet. We found it easy to get into the Hearing room itself and there were lot of seats available. As the Hearing officially started I ran over to a copy shop to get a couple hundred copies of Prometheus' fact sheet printed so we could leave some on the public literature table (a lot of great stuff from all sides was on the table). Special thanks to Didi, who gave me contributions for food and copying. We were able to get a good smattering of seats in several areas of the hall. Prometheus' tv set costumes, sitting next to lawyers in suits made good photo ops of the audience. Our mad scientists' outfits stood out and drew attention to our position that we disputed the FCC studies as bad science. I estimate the crowd at about 100, though a lot of people would leave as new people arrived. Several of the Commissioners made comments preceding any discussion to introduce the issues. The moderator was introduced (an ex-law professor from William & Mary). I felt like the moderator and Commissioners ran the discussion pretty well, despite taking some liberties. The moderator went so far as to voice his personal opinion that the Commission should focus on its role with frequency management more than anything else (actually I agree with that). Of course, as the day went on it became apparent that the 'public' hearing was mostly taken up by panelist discussion. Commissioners Abernathy and Copps both asked pointed questions of panelists on a few occasion. Copps was the only Commissioner who seemed supportive of the public speakers' concerns. I am not going to say much about the panelist discussion, cause hopefully you are already familiar with most to of the positions taken. There were three (or was it four panels) that spoke to the issues of localism, diversity, and competition. I do think the minority broadcasters made strong arguments. 'Rocker' Jenny Toomey did a great job of countering Clear Channel's representative's doublespeak. Although a few panelists spoke in favor of deregulation in terms of economic theory and competition, most of the panelists were very concerned by the Commission's reasoning and were against deregulating. I also agree with the moderator's comment that it seemed like people came prepared with lots of good facts to back up their arguments and many of them took issue with the FCC's facts. After the first panel, the public received about 20 minutes to make comments, then we broke for lunch. Originally we planned to do a march on Media General at lunch. But we only got about 30 minutes for lunch between panels and it was still sleeting outside so no one wanted to join up when I asked around. Its too bad, cause I think this might have driven home the point to a lot of people, especially locals. I know the Richmond Free Press reporter was disappointed it did not happen. I grabbed some pizza in the 6th St. Marketplace. I wish I could have directed people to some other places, but 6th Street was close to the Convention Center and everyone seemed to scatter quickly on their own. After lunch, after the another panel, the public got about another 20 minutes of comments in. The next panel started immediately. After that the moderator simply let loose the public and allowed us to speak for 40 minutes. Keep in mind after a whole day of 'public' hearing, the entire public got about 80 minutes of speaking time. What should be repeated over and over, and as loudly as possible, is that EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC SPEAKER SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE FCC NOT DEREGULATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one, I mean no one, got up to the mic and said it would be cool for Clear Channel, AOL, Media General or NBC to own more. If the FCC is supposed to represent public interests, the public has spoken to what those interests are. I was very impressed by the public speakers. Despite the common position against deregulation, they represented every walk of American life- from independent AM broadcast entrepreneurs to LPFM activists, from self-styled socialists to conservative Republican housewives, from minority newspaper publishers to white guy environmentalists, old/young, black/white, male/female, students/professors. And everyone spoke cogently and passionately and covered many points not mentioned by the Commission or panelists. Not everyone agreed to all those points (one guy got up to the mic and said FCC Commissioner Michael Powell is the son of war criminal Colin Powell and he was concerned about the military's ability to manipulate corporate media, he was booed by some people for crassness but I had to respect him for giving his own individual point of view). The concerns raised by everyone had validity to them. Particularly disturbing were tales of corporate censorship. If people are not allowed to buy their own ads in the "marketplace of ideas", than why should we rule in favor of the "market"? Several citizens spoke up and said they did not care about consumer concerns so much as they were concerned the FCC was ignoring CITIZEN concerns. I was especially proud of Richmond people, my neighbors, who took the time to speak. The question I keep coming back to is did anybody hear them? Some media was there but I did not see that many cameras. Where was the corporate media that is promising us even more news, all the time? When I got up this morning I listened to my local NPR affilate, WCVE, (keep in mind this happened in their broadcast location), there was 10 second mention of the event. It ignored the fact that ALL public comments were against deregulation and the last part of their report reiterated the corporations' argument for deregulation. The Richmond Times-Dispatch article (I gave the link at the top of this email) was on the front page. It said "virtually" all the public speakers were against deregulation (get it- virtually- like they were not really there) and then reiterated the corporate argument. The rest of the local news is all about the official opening of the Greater Richmond Convention Center this weekend, never mind what just happened there. I am anxious to see if national coverage did better, but honestly I am pessimistic. Hopefully future FCC hearings will mean more, but I am pretty sure Richmond, while a moral victory for those of us there, will be ignored in the war of corporate domination. After the Hearing wrapped up, Prometheus crew and a few of us locals headed to Aladdin's at Laurel and Broad. They got back on the van and went home in the rain. Thanks, Scott ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #59 *************************