From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #247 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, September 5 2002 Volume 08 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- AIMEE, FUTURE BIBLE HEROES, BUFFY [irvin lin ] Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] "Karnataka" at the Patriot Theatre in Trenton New Jersey ["JS News" ] Re: AIMEE, FUTURE BIBLE HEROES, BUFFY [dmw ] Re: mieville stuff [Neile Graham ] Re: mieville stuff [Craig Gidney ] John Hammond does Waits/Prisoner [kerry white ] Re: John Hammond does Waits/Prisoner [meredith ] Re: AIMEE, FUTURE BIBLE HEROES, BUFFY ["Sherlyn Koo" ] Re: various and sundry [Joseph Zitt ] Re: various and sundry [Dan Riley ] Mooooovies [WretchAwry ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 23:24:04 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: AIMEE, FUTURE BIBLE HEROES, BUFFY > From: JoAnn Whetsell > > I just got it (Lost in Space) last week and have only had a chance to listen > to it once. It sounds good, much along the lines of Bachelor No. 2. Perhaps > not quite as immediately lovable, but then again, this is a first impression. > If you like Aimee's other work, you'll like this too. I like the cartoon > artwork, but don't always get the connection between the drawing and the song. > I pre-ordered, but didn't get to play the bonus disc yet. I actually like the bonus songs a lot. I actually think they are in someways better songs than a lot of what is on LOST IN SPACE, but I understand why they weren't on the CD. They don't really blend as well with the other songs. Hey has anyone purchased the new FUTURE BIBLE HEROES? The side project of STEPHIN MERRIT from MAGNETIC FIELDS, it features lyrics written by STEPHIN, music by CHRIS EWEN and singing by CLAUDIA GONSON. I haven't gotten it yet, even though I usually love STEPHIN's work. I think the last FBH album was a little too. Um. Electrobubblegum for me. But I'll probably get around to picking it up. Just wondering if anyone out there has heard it and has an opinion. > From: Steve VanDevender > > The station that used to be a UPN affiliate in Eugene isn't any more; > they were running an episode of _Deep Space 9_ instead of Buffy when I > checked this evening. So apparently whatever happens in season 7 of > Buffy, I'm only going to hear about it secondhand. According to the > news item I Googled up, some station in Roseburg is supposedly going to > become a UPN affiliate, but when I checked a) the reception was awful > and b) the program that was on seemed to involve thumping bibles instead > of staking vampires. I had read that UPN affiliates were having problems in the northwest corner of the country. My condolences. You used to be able to download the episodes from www.buffy-episodes.com but apparently that site has been shut down. One site that is still up and running though is http://studiesinwords.de/ where you can read and download each episode of both ANGEL and BUFFY. They do a pretty good job of uploading new episode scripts after the show airs (someone, who apparently has a lot of times on their hands, actually transcribes the episode each week). They even (somehow) have gotten ahold of some of the shooting scripts, which often time have extra scenes that don't make the cut of the show (or have slightly alternative scenes - check out the ANGEL script for BIRTHDAY - it has a completely intact scene from the alternate reality CORDY! sitcom as well as a different theme song that is hilarious). The shooting scripts are interesting to read even if you've seen the show, because the extra scenes offer slightly more insight into each episode. It's too bad that the DVD releases don't offer deleted/alternate scenes for the show. Season one was a bit skimpy on the extras, while season two was a little better. Hopefully season three will have more. irvin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 03:00:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Scott Zimmerman (scottz@best.com) ******************** ********************* Mike Mendelson (mjmjm@usa.net) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Scott Zimmerman Mon September 04 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 04 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Sharon Nichols - Terra Incognita Wed September 11 1963 Victim of Christianity Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:07:13 -0500 From: "JS News" Subject: "Karnataka" at the Patriot Theatre in Trenton New Jersey Karnataka to make their debut US live appearance this October at the US Classic Rock Festival being held at the Patriot Theatre, Trenton, New Jersey............ " Karnataka's music can be as mysterious, haunting and beautiful as it can be storming and rocky...." '"Embracing and blending musical inspiration from genres as diverse as Celtic, Eastern and truly innovative rock" The Classic Rock Society Don't know how "Ectophilic " these folks are, but they do some really nice stuff. You can download two full songs off of their album " The Storm" ( highly recommended) at this link http://www.karnataka.ndirect.co.uk/index2.htm As far as I know ,the only place to purchase "The Storm " in the states is here.... http://www.znrcds.com/ At least, that's the only place I was able to find it. Very interesting stuff at their site. "ZNR has been providing the finest in progressive and alternative/avant-garde rock and jazz music for over 20 years. For listeners who thought that great emotional/intelligent rock music ended in 1978, we bring you a catalog of works spanning the rest of the century and continuing on. If names like Yes, ELP, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Gentle Giant, UK, Genesis, and PFM are old friends, we invite you to explore The Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, Anekdoten, and Echolyn. And, if these names are also familiar to you, we urge you to discover the many other groups and artists who have been - and continue to be - - active in the progressive music scene worldwide. " Best to all, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: mieville stuff On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Neile Graham wrote: > >disabuse me of that notion, but the person pictured looks like some > >burly punk with a shaved head and a row of earrings up one ear. But he > >sure can write. > > He sure can. He's a really interesting guy, too. He came here to really? i'm not surprised to hear that he's interesting, just that there's agreement than he "sure" can write. i found enough i liked about _perdido street station_ to keep slogging through it, but i found some of his narrative tics extremely grating. he really overuses some words -- i felt that if all the occurences of "desultory," "desultorially" and "mulch" were removed, the volume would have been significantly slimmer. i also thought he was much better at world-building than at character or plot, to say nothing of theme. some aspects of it really reminded me unpleasantly of role playing games. ymmv, obviously, but i ain't endorsing it. - -- d. np wynn _here come the miracles_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: AIMEE, FUTURE BIBLE HEROES, BUFFY On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, irvin lin wrote: > > Hey has anyone purchased the new FUTURE BIBLE HEROES? The side project of > STEPHIN MERRIT from MAGNETIC FIELDS, it features lyrics written by STEPHIN, > music by CHRIS EWEN and singing by CLAUDIA GONSON. I haven't gotten it yet, > even though I usually love STEPHIN's work. I think the last FBH album was a > little too. Um. Electrobubblegum for me. But I'll probably get around to > picking it up. Just wondering if anyone out there has heard it and has an > opinion. semi-informed opinion based on one listen: "i am a vampire" is a really good song. despite a couple of that's-really-annoying arrangement experiments (in the vein of "when you're not looking i'm not there" (or whichever is the one where the keyboard changes voices every bar), listening to it was a basically pleasant experience. i liked it much better than the more recent of the sixths cds, which was a real letdown, but not as much as any of the "69" cds. i will listen again and then i might have a more informed opinion. but statistically speaking, i suppose the odds must be conceded to be poor. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: mieville stuff dmw wrote: > really? i'm not surprised to hear that he's interesting, just that > there's agreement than he "sure" can write. > > i found enough i liked about _perdido street station_ to keep slogging > through it, but i found some of his narrative tics extremely grating. he > really overuses some words -- i felt that if all the occurences of > "desultory," "desultorially" and "mulch" were removed, the volume would > have been significantly slimmer. > > i also thought he was much better at world-building than at character or > plot, to say nothing of theme. some aspects of it really reminded me > unpleasantly of role playing games. > > ymmv, obviously, but i ain't endorsing it. Well, mileage does vary, as I really like his style, and find it rich and captivating. I'm not very familiar with role-playing games themselves but have suffered through novels based on them and see no resemblance between those and Mieville's writing; he's a child of Lovecraft and Peake rather than diluted Tolkien as most role-playing fiction is. He calls what he does "weird fiction", which is probably the best definition of it I've seen. I also find his character-building just fine--he's not trying to build "people just like us" but understandable people in these really weird worlds, which I think he's excellent at. I'm not saying you do, Doug, but some people mistake good character-building for making a character just like Joe next door. That's not what Mieville is trying to do. Anyway, just as a datapoint, I love his fiction enough to get both _Perdido Street Station_ and _The Scar_ in the UK hardcover editions just so they'd hold up to the many people who want to borrow our copies. I think we're on the 10th person reading _Perdido_ now. Fewer are borrowing _The Scar_ because they've bought their own copies. Some readers would probably like _King Rat_ better, as it's set in the real world, with human characters used to the real world, than _Perdido Street Station_. Me, I love weird worlds and living in them with interesting characters. Few people do this as convincingly for me as Mieville. My only complaint is that he loves monsters, and I don't, not really. - --Neile ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Re: mieville stuff - --- dmw wrote: > > really? i'm not surprised to hear that he's > interesting, just that > there's agreement than he "sure" can write. If you like rich description and atomsphere--which is precisely what Perdido Street Station was aiming for--you could hardly do better. I love sensory overload writing. > i found enough i liked about _perdido street > station_ to keep slogging > through it, but i found some of his narrative > tics extremely grating. he > really overuses some words -- i felt that if > all the occurences of > "desultory," "desultorially" and "mulch" were > removed, the volume would > have been significantly slimmer. These strike me as 'niggles' and editorial decisions rather than a flaw of the *overall* writing. They don't undo the craft of the writing nor did they significantly through me out of the text and the story. > > i also thought he was much better at > world-building than at character or > plot, to say nothing of theme. So? Most Writers fall into three basic categories--those who focus on plot and character and those who focus on descriptions. Rare is the one who can do it all, and consistently. Also, I found the characters--particularly the bohemain deminomde-- to be engaging and unique for this kind of fiction. As for the plot--I've always preferred 'slice-of-life' sf and fantasy to quests. >some aspects of > it really reminded me > unpleasantly of role playing games. In what way? I don't read 'share-cropped' novels, but I do read alot of speculative fiction. A fat scientist and his artist girlfriend who accidently fall into a drug war doesn't really strike me as being the stuff of role playing games or share-cropped novel. If so, I've given them the short-shift. > ymmv, obviously, but i ain't endorsing it. Anyone who likes well-written dark fantasy should at least give it a try. C. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:49:13 -0500 (CDT) From: kerry white Subject: John Hammond does Waits/Prisoner Hi, Austin City Limits on Sat the 7th (or not: CYLL) will have a half hour of John Hammond doing Tom Waits covers. We (PBS station) received in syndication the entire "The Prisoner" series. We were going to run it again, but, the numbers came in and noone watched it last time so we dropped it. Everyone remember the first time you saw The Prisoner? bye, KrW "The information superhighway is just CB with more typing" :Dave Barry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:12:11 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: John Hammond does Waits/Prisoner Hi, Kerry reported: > We (PBS station) received in syndication the entire "The Prisoner" >series. We were going to run it again, but, the numbers came in and noone >watched it last time so we dropped it. The same thing happened to Channel Thirteen in NY, which ran it from start to finish this summer. Of course, I only realized this when they were on the third-to-last episode, so I have only seen three of what I understand to be the most bizarre episodes of the series, and nothing else. It doesn't look like they're going to run it again anytime soon. Guess nobody around here watched it, either. ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org NEXT UP: Annie Gallup, Saturday, 9/28 at 8 pm ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:24:41 -0400 From: "Sherlyn Koo" Subject: Re: AIMEE, FUTURE BIBLE HEROES, BUFFY Hi, Irvin said: >of the country. My condolences. You used to be able to download the episodes >from www.buffy-episodes.com but apparently that site has been shut down. I used IRC/mIRC (#buffy-central on Dalnet is the place to go) to download the last season of Buffy. It can be very hard to get connected sometimes though. I've also recently discovered the Kazaa P2P network. Get the lite version of the software though, not the real version. Using Kazaa I downloaded 12 episodes of Angel in just a few days. (Just finished watching 'em - I never was that much into Angel before, but I thought the end of S3 rocked!) Hopefully the second half of Farscape s4 will be available to download before next January. That's what happened last year, since the European networks didn't have a 5-month hiatus like Sci-Fi in the US. Of course, I live in the city where the show is filmed and they still haven't shown past season 2 here... - -sherlyn - -- Sherlyn Koo | sherlyn@pixelopolis.com | Sydney, Australia - -- ------------------------------ Date: 04 Sep 2002 20:36:12 -0400 From: Dan Riley Subject: Re: John Hammond does Waits/Prisoner kerry white writes: > We (PBS station) received in syndication the entire "The Prisoner" > series. We were going to run it again, but, the numbers came in and noone > watched it last time so we dropped it. I wouldn't have watched--I just bought the DVD boxed set :-) Went on a minor boxed set binge, buying the Prisoner, the complete Emma Peel Avengers (the boxed set was cheaper than buying the ones I didn't already have), and the complete organ works of JS Bach (Marie-Claire Alain performing). Ordered the Cowboy Bebop boxed set, but they sold out :-( No real ecto content--most of my recent CD purchases have been Bach--except to say that S. Vega's "It Makes me Wonder" is the bounciest tune I've heard in a long time...great rhythm section, esp. the bass line. Also one of the few songs I can't resist singing along with. And for anyone into Bach--the Pinnnock/Podger Complete Sonatas for Violin and Obbligato Harpsichord are *highly* recommended. Really. - -- "about 15 percent of the people are screwballs, lightweights and boobs and you would not want those people unrepresented in Congress." -Alan Simpson, former US Senator (R, Wyoming) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:16:16 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: Karnataka at the Patriot Theatre in Trenton New Jersey Hello, Jim et. al. Wow... Karnataka coming to the States... that'll be something special. For those wanting more info, hit: http://www.classicrockproductions.com/ On the question of getting their albums: > As far as I know ,the only place to purchase "The Storm " in the States is > here.... > > http://www.znrcds.com/ > > At least, that's the only place I was able to find it. The other option, of course, is to shop directly on the band's own website: http://www.karnataka.ndirect.co.uk/ ... in fact, you reminded me to pick up their two albums (and stay on the alert for word about the new, third one). Their online store also sells T-shirts and a wonderful concert DVD (made at the Mad Fiddler in London). It takes very little time to order (the e-commerce part is handled by Mighty Atom Productions and WorldPay), and not much longer to receive the goods afterwards. Just make sure to "tick" the appropiate box when you checkout or face paying VAT... Oh, yes: Those ordering the concert DVD from North America get the NTSC pressing automatically. (I can't confirm if it's region-free. It should be.) Philip David 9/4/2002 - --- The Polly Stephanson Project - http://homepage.mac.com/pollyshows/ - --- "Now go back and finish your oatmeal." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:29:24 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: various and sundry forgive me for the following omnibus -- the undertow of job and work and life have swept me into the lurky depths over the last months, but i've still read every message here. in no particular order, then, here are some overdue thoughts (in typical feckless footah prose, which is to say pretty much incoherent ;): China Mieville: "king rat" was great fun, kind of Gaiman-lite. i found the passages on the drum&bass stuff, particularly the composition process, spot on. "perdido street station", well, i second Neile's comment on monsters (in fact, i agree with everything Neile said -- something i often do :) -- i enjoy Mieville's passion for the the uglier side of twisted even if i don't share it. overall, though, "perdido street station" felt like Delany's "dhalgren" to me -- a writer going for too much too soon, and creating a extraordinary, brilliant failure. (failure is maybe too strong a word, but i'll happily argue it over a beer -- you choose the pub ;) "the scar" was less ambitious and more solid, though therefore less thrilling. nonetheless, one of my favorite books of the last few years, in that it evoked the truly wonderous. Recent Albums: "lost in space" feels a little like Aimee-redux, but ms. Mann can redux all night long in that chocolate sundae voice, 'sfar as i'm concerned. ah yeah (listening to it now), double-dip me... "fashionably late" was a bit light, i thought, on the songwriting front, but i've felt the same about Richard of late as well -- "shoot out the lights" is a hell of a legacy. but great singing, and backup from the likes of John Doyle and Danny Thompson, added up to a worthwhile wait. "daybreaker", hmm, can't remember it. funny, i can remember "trailer park" and "central reservation". hmm. some good chunk of the Naxos "American Classics" catalog (Ives, Barber, Piston, Hanson, etc.), plus their Messiaen discs; happily, this Hong Kong based budget label provides the cheapest, most complete, best recorded, and most excitingly performed collection of "modern classical" American music, including some otherwise very hard to find works. the complete (available) works of one Joseph Zitt have been on heavy rotation. and i really enjoyed his (your!) book of scores. B/b/b/b/beep/p/eep: i've been on a deep and unexpected dance/dj/electronica kick -- partially because of "king rat" and repeated trips to Berlin. having no shame (eg. still believing "ray of light" was the most interesting female vocal album of 1998), i'm happy to blast the big beat stuff (chemical bros, crystal method, norman "fatboy slim" cook). in the more intriguing stack i've got Orb, Orbital, William Orbit (erm, must be a british thing -- orb and scepter, millenium dome, etc.), Future Sound of London, DJ Spooky, Squarepusher, and particularly Talvin Singh, Aphex Twin and Amon Tobin. so, first, any suggestions? and second and more so, any ecto-ey suggestions? the only women in my bleepy section are Wendy Carlos (yeah, i know, but i've met her and am happy to put even her early stuff on the "her" side) and Bjork, who, pixie though she be comes across as the only mature vision in the lot. Season Six: frustrating, inconstant, but in retrospect the amount of time spent arguing over it suggests it was worthwhile, no? compared to the 99% of TV to which i didn't give a minute's thought... the musical, the wedding, "normal again", the brutally matter-of-fact presentation of the attempted rape, even the bit where the chicken and the cow got all swirly, made up for the occasionally clunky writing and tedious addiction motif. looking at the DVDs, though, i note the relatively brilliant cinematography of the early episodes, 16mm camera and all. as far as Season Seven, i agree with Andrew: more Drusilla! no soft spot here for the crazycrazy Drusilla: one can deduce somewhat too much of me from this. but i miss Tara. after Meredith's comments about i've been watching the first two seasons of Angel courtesy of the UK DVDs. i should have figured after my first few episodes of Buffy last fall that the spin-off would be worth it -- luckily the TiVo has caught most of season three. Sherlyn mentioned Farscape: the anti-Trek. maddening, messy. Chiana, man, love that nervous swagger (again with the deductions re me). amazing that Ben Browder pens some of the most creative episodes -- anyone know if it's really him writing those? Dan mentions Prisoner box and Bach CDs: sound good, will buy, also hi!!! i agree with pretty much everyone about concert films (funny story about Neil's nose). add to the list Bjork's stunning Riverside church concert on HBO(?) last year. Best concert of the year so far: a didjeridu quartet playing through dense evening fog in the tunnels of Hawk Hill, high in the Marin headlands above the Golden Gate. points for oddness, surely, but unlike most such stuff it was engaging, varied, and innately musical. Worst movie of the year so far: all of them, 'cept maybe "Lilo and Stitch" -- loved the "Elvis as model citizen" business, as well as the happily disfunctional family. Mr. Bubbles was just flarkin' weird, though. sadly, i missed the Powerpuff Girls movie... i should note in all fairness that the hollywood remake of "insomnia" provides an exciting and insightful example of why LA should fall into the ocean. sheesh. listened to "warpaint" the other day, for the first time in a year or so. still and ever one of my favorite albums. i hope my next message will be sooner and less ramblish. in the meanwhile, i'll be ecto :) - -g - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:47:56 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: various and sundry On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:29:24 -0700 Greg Bossert wrote: > the complete (available) works of one Joseph Zitt have been on > heavy rotation. and i really enjoyed his (your!) book of scores. Um, *blush* Wow, thanks! > Best concert of the year so far: a didjeridu quartet playing through > dense evening fog in the tunnels of Hawk Hill, high in the Marin > headlands above the Golden Gate. points for oddness, surely, but > unlike most such stuff it was engaging, varied, and innately musical. Are you in the Bay Area? I'm living in Berkeley now. I'll be posting tonight about a performance my new vocal ensemble will be doing in Oakland this coming Tuesday. \ - -- | josephzitt@josephzitt.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: 05 Sep 2002 01:24:20 -0400 From: Dan Riley Subject: Re: various and sundry Greg Bossert writes: > and Bjork, who, pixie though she be comes across as the only mature > vision in the lot. Pixie she be, but one hellofa pixie--with her oeuvre, and her swanlike approach to the Oscars, Bjork is one of my heroes. Who else would voluntarily lay an egg at the Academy Awards? And she'd rather make music than tons of money in Hollywood. Yay Bjork! I'd offer to bear her children, if that weren't biologically impossible. > Season Six: Sadly, some of us in UPNless land haven't even seen season six! But we can still agree, > as far as Season Seven, i agree with Andrew: more Drusilla! that you can't go wrong with more Drusilla. > Sherlyn mentioned Farscape: the anti-Trek. maddening, > messy. Chiana, man, love that nervous swagger (again with the > deductions re me). Not just you... > i should note in all fairness that the hollywood remake of > "insomnia" provides an exciting and insightful example of why LA > should fall into the ocean. sheesh. Ah, I see you've fully absorbed Northern California cultah. (For those unfamiliar--Northern and Southern California would like to be different countries. Not different states, different countries--we are talking about dividing up the fifth largest economony in the world. The favorite chant in Northern California sporting arenas is "beat LA". It's even worse than Cornell and Harvard :-) > i hope my next message will be sooner and less ramblish. in the > meanwhile, i'll be ecto :) Isn't rambling ecto? - -- "about 15 percent of the people are screwballs, lightweights and boobs and you would not want those people unrepresented in Congress." -Alan Simpson, former US Senator (R, Wyoming) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:50:26 -0700 (PDT) From: WretchAwry Subject: Mooooovies - --- Greg Bossert wrote: > Worst movie of the year so far: all of them, > 'cept maybe "Lilo and Stitch" -- loved the > "Elvis as model citizen" business, as well > as the happily disfunctional family. Mr. > Bubbles was just flarkin' weird, though. > sadly, i missed the Powerpuff Girls movie... > i should note in all fairness that the hollywood > remake of "insomnia" provides an exciting and > insightful example of why LA should fall into > the ocean. sheesh. Ah now, "Insomnia" wasn't that bad. Great director, great actors, great scenery, great source material...it worked for me. It's been somewhat slow, but I think there have been lots of pretty good movies out so far this year. I don't have a "Moulin Rouge" yet, but it's been satisfying. I've seen about 60 movies in the theater this year (not counting repeats, such as seeing The Fellowship of the Ring and The Royal Tenenbaums several times each) and I'm fairly happy. Studios gave us "The Panic Room," "Changing Lanes," "Minority Report," "Signs," "Road to Perdition," "Ice Age," and "Lilo and Stitch," while indies gave us "Frailty" (my favorite of the year so far), "Y Tu Mama Tambien," "Sunshine State," "Lovely & Amazing," "The Kid Stays In The Picture," "Tadpole," "13 Conversations About One Thing" "Possession," "The Good Girl," "One Hour Photo," "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," and "Secret Ballot." I've already missed several that I really wanted to see, such as "Atanarjuat" and "CQ." It's not going to be a 1999, but I think we've done alright so far, and the last 3 months of the year will/should be a whirlwind of good/great films. Coming up are at least a couple/few dozen films that are MUST SEEs for me, including "Bowling for Columbine," "Gangs of New York," "Solaris," "Heaven," "The Ring," "Frida," "Roger Dodger," "Igby Goes Down," "Punch-Drunk Love," "The Hours," "Far From Heaven," "Adaptation," "The Magdalene Sisters," "The 25th Hour," "The Pianist," "Pinocchio," "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind," "Catch Me If You Can," and "About Schmidt," among several others, and, well, of course, the one I'm waiting most impatiently for, "The Two Towers." I should take that list and expand on why I have high hopes for all of those films. Don't worry, though, it'll get much, much better. V Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #247 **************************