From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #240 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, August 30 2002 Volume 08 : Number 240 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MTV memories [Ellen Rawson ] mtv memories [adamk@zoom.co.uk] Re: ecto-digest V8 #239 [Paul2k@aol.com] Re: MTV memories ["John Zimmer" ] garmarna U.S. dates; neko case dates [Paul2k@aol.com] anyone remember the music channel U-68 [fsmcguire@juno.com] Re: MTV and HDTV [Eric Lammerts ] Re: MTV Memories ["Todd Pierce" ] Re: MTV Memories [Valerie Nozick ] Qatsi Community Newsletter [Jeff Wasilko ] early videos [dmw ] Re: anyone remember the music channel U-68 [Philip David Morgan ] Buffy stuff (was Re: ecto-digest V8 #239) [meredith ] What a Great Group [rwink@frontiernet.net] Re: MTV and HDTV ["Russ Van Rooy" ] Live At The House O'Muzak Returns! [meredith ] Freakie MTV ["dave" ] Kym Brown (was: garmarna U.S. dates; neko case dates) [Neile Graham Subject: Re: MTV memories - --- Ken Blake wrote: > I lived in Boulder, CO 80-84 Well, KBDI did start in 1980, but it wasn't much at the time. It took a little while to grow. > station and > the name FMTV isn't right, although Teletunes sounds > vaguely familiar. Teletunes came around a little later; I'm trying to remember when they sold the name. Their website isn't helpful. Ellen, ex-Colorado folk ===== "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:35:17 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: mtv memories Ahh, MTV: The Early Days. I've never had it myself, but back in 1982/83, I stayed with a friend who had it for a week, and I was absolutely smitten with it, and with the whole novelty of it. I think that, because it was still a relatively new media, it wasn't an automatic thing to make a video for a song, so there tended to be a lot more left- field, unknown artists who were featured merely because they'd actually bothered (or, in the case of Genesis' "abacab" video, barely bothered). There were two that struck me, in particular, and I loved the songs that went with them. One was by an artist called Martin Briley (? Glenn knows -- he mentions him in his site, but I can't remember the name off the top of my head) The song was called "The Salt in My Tears", and it was a pretty cheesy video (scheming wife robs man of all he has while he sings about it) but the lyrics were actually quite clever, and it had a killer tune. The other was by Golden Earring, a song called "Twilight Zone". This is one of the great lost songs of ALL TIME, and had a fantastic, cine noir video that went with it, one that went completely surreal towards the end (and featured, if I'm not mistaken, leather-clad dancers gyrating around at some bizarre point). Does anyone else remember these? I seem to remember Jon Waites had a few interesting videos, as well, and even Nazareth enjoyed something of a renaissance with their "Holiday" video. I also confess to a liking for Martha Quinn (whatever happened to her?), which was frustrated by the fact that, at one point, she was actually living with someone ELSE called Adam Kimmel. Odd, or what? adam k. Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 03:50:50 -0400 From: Paul2k@aol.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V8 #239 > > The Sonys and Magnavoxes and RCA's of the world stand to make a KILLING. Hee. I'm just thinking about the Simpsons where they go shopping for a new tv at an outlet mall and Homer admires the brand name products "Look there's Panaphonics, Magnetbox, and Sorny!" Jeff Hanson writes: > Hilary Hahn - Brahms/Stravinsky Violin Concertos Hey! I played cello with her. When we were, like, 10 years old. It was a string trio. *sigh*, if only I had known what a star she'd become, I woulda attached myself to her like a leech. A LEECH, I tells ya! And to stay off topic for a little while longer, for you Buffy fans out there, a question. Have you seen those Circuit City commercials where a guy customer is returning something and looking for the receipt in his wallet and fumbling around while the sales assistant has a slightly bemused look on her face and tells him that they keep all the information from the purchases in their computers? Don't you think that she looks like Amber Benson (willow's girlfriend Tara)? You want ecto content? Um.....er.....I got nothing. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 01:25:05 -0700 From: "John Zimmer" Subject: Re: MTV memories Meredith wrote: > For YEARS I wondered just what that video had been ... my sister was right, > it did give me nightmares! I had been a KaTefan for more than five years > before I ever figured it out. I hadn't been able to see too many KaTe > videos, and one night in college I came upon _The Whole Story_ video > collection in a rental store while visiting a friend over break. Needless > to say, when the video for "Sat In Your Lap" started I freaked out. :) My > first exposure to KaTe had given me nightmares! Funny how these things > turn out. This story resonates a *lot* with my introduction to KaTe. Although I didn't know it at the time, I first saw and heard KaTe performing on Saturday Night Live sometime late in 1978, during my senior year in high school (here *I* go dating myself). For years afterward, I kinda wondered in the back of my head who in the world that English singer was with the songs about "rolling the ball" and some man with a child in his eyes. ;) Fast forward to 1985, and Running Up That Hill is actually getting some airplay on local radio, and I've fallen in love with the HoL album. I start working my way back through all those previous LPs I'd missed in the intervening years, and imagine my surprise when I finally put on The Kick Inside for the first time... Funny indeed. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:00:58 -0400 From: Paul2k@aol.com Subject: garmarna U.S. dates; neko case dates Man, I'm bored tonight. I actually have ecto content. Surfing, surfing, surfing, and at Garmarna's Northside (their U.S. record label) site, they have tourdates coming up in September in the States. Go see them! Same blah blah for Neko Case (her info is at www.bloodshotrecords.com) Oh, by the way, does anyone know how to purchase copies of Kym Brown's stuff? I've been meaning to get Pygmalion for a while. Paul Garmarna Dates: September 13: Freight & Salvage, Berkeley, CA: special Hildegard Von Bingen show www.freightandsalvage.org 8:00 pm, Tickets: $16.50 advance September 14: Monterey World Music Festival, Monterey, CA www.montereyworldmusic.org approx. 4:00 pm Tickets: $15 advance for day pass September 18: Marty's, 700 College Drive (Luther College Campus), Decorah 8:30 pm Info: (563) 387-1032 September 20: In-store performance at Border's Books & Music, 150 N. State Street, Chicago, IL www.bordersstores.com 12:30 pm September 20: Old Town School of Folk Music, Chicago www.oldtownschool.org 7:30 pm, Tickets: $12 Opening Night of the Chicago World Music Festival: http://www.ci.chi.il.us/WorldMusic/ September 21: Nordic Roots Festival, Minneapolis, MN www.nordicroots.org 8:00 pm; headliner with Hurdy Gurdy Project opening, Tickets: $20 adv September 24: Joe's Pub, New York, NY www.joespub.com 7:30 pm, Tickets $15 September 25: Kennedy Center Millennium Stage, Washington, DC www.kennedy-center.org 6:00 pm, free September 26: Duke University, Durham, NC www.duke.edu/web/dia/ Tickets available 9/1/02 September 27-28: Floyd World Music Festival, Floyd, VA www.floydfest.com Friday 4:50 pm, Saturday 3:00 pm, Tickets: $45 for day pass, $115 3-day pass Neko Case Dates: Wed Sept 25 Cleveland Beachland Ballroom w/ Trailer Bride Thu Sept 26 Toronto Phoenix Concert Tavern w/ Trailer Bride Fri Sept 27 Montreal Cabaret Music Hall w/ Trailer Bride Sat Sept 28 Cambridge House of Blues w/ Trailer Bride Sun Sept 29 New York Bowery Ballroom w/ Trailer Bride Tue Oct 1 Philadelphia Tin Angel w/ Trailer Bride Wed Oct 2 Washington Black Cat w/ Trailer Bride Thu Oct 3 Carrboro Catbs Cradle w/ Trailer Bride Fri Oct 4 Atlanta Echo Lounge Sat Oct 5 Nashville Slow Bar Sun Oct 6 Champaign High Dive Thu Oct 24 Milwaukee Miramar Theater Fri Oct 25 Chicago Metro Sat Oct 26 Madison Lutherbs Blues Sun Oct 27 Minneapolis 400 Bar Tue Oct 29 Winnipeg, MB West End Wed Oct 30 Regina, Sk The State Thu Oct 31 Saskatoon, SK Amigobs Wed Nov 6 Vancouver, BC Commodore Ballroom Thu Nov 7 Seattle Crocodile Cafe Fri Nov 8 Seattle Crocodile Cafe Sat Nov 9 Portland Aladdin Theater Tue Nov 12 San Francisco Bimbos 365 Club Wed Nov 13 Los Angeles The Derby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:27:37 -0400 From: fsmcguire@juno.com Subject: anyone remember the music channel U-68 Hi, Since we're disucssing the birth of MTV, (which I clearly remember watching, we were lucky enough to have cable). I remembered a music video channel that was on in the New Jersey area called U-68. It was on in the mid eighties, when I was in high school. (anyone else feeling old that their high school music is now nostalgia/? ) Anyone else from the area remember this, or am I alone :) The programmer must have LOVED Kate Bush, because they showed her all the time, along with a lot of the MTV regulars. Oddly enough, one of my high school English teachers got me into Kate Bush. He taught our British Writers class (being obsessed with England, I had to take the class, of course) He had a huge Kate Bush poster hanging in his classroom! What a cool teacher he was. I digress....... They also had a show on there with a guy named "Uncle Flloyd" who had musical guests-I think the Smithereens were on there frequently, and Marshall Crenshaw might have appeared on there as well. Going down memory lane- Sherry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:44:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Eric Lammerts Subject: Re: MTV and HDTV On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, WretchAwry wrote: > The thing is, HDTV makes DVDs look like 6 hr speed VHS. It really is > that beautiful and clear and stunning. I've had to make a rule in > this house that we will never watch a DVD after watching HDTV, > because it just won't fly. > Now the Moulin Rouge DVD is absolutely state-of-the-art, and > everything about it is reference quality. But, watching it after > watching HDTV was a REALLY BAD IDEA. Instead of the bright, > beautiful colors I was used to, the colors looked smeary and muddy > and runny, while the picture was soft and out of focus. How is your DVD player connected to your HDTV? Using component video (3 plugs, Y/Cb/Cr) or using a composite connection (single plug)? Using a composite connection means that the DVD player has to convert the signal to NTSC, and the HDTV will convert it back. You'll lose a LOT of picture quality with this setup (since NTSC means "Never The Same Color" :-)). A friend of mine has a really good beamer (1024x768) to watch DVDs (using a computer and VGA connection), and the picture quality is nothing like you describe, in fact it's excellent (though I must admit that I never watched HDTV so I can't compare). Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:36:08 -0500 From: "Todd Pierce" Subject: Re: MTV Memories When MTV debuted I was a freshman in high school...my sister a year younger. We had just got cable in our house. I think we watched MTV every day for the first year - came home from school, put on MTV, did homework while watching it. Much better than reruns of the Brady Bunch or the cartoon version of I Dream of Jeannie. And that was back when MTV actually played music videos at least 45 minutes each hour. I remember how at the top of each hour they'd have the astronaut on the moon, and the VJ would say what was coming up the next hour. If it was something worth seeing of course we'd wait the entire hour if need be to see it. What was worth seeing? For my sister anything with Duran Duran, the Cure, Billy Squier. For me it was all 'new wave' stuff - videos such as ABC's Lexicon of Love, Roxy Music's Avalon (I had a crush on the lady in that video), Berlin's The Metro (yep had a crush on Terri Nunn), and the video that caused me to beg and beg my parents for a record player so I could go buy the album and play it at home - Kim Wilde's Kids in America. I have a variation on the Kate Bush stories too...I saw the video for Suspended in Gaffa on MTV when I was 14, and I was totally enthralled by the voice, the melody, the singer. At that time I had to get my mom to drive me to the record store (Sound Warehouse), which meant she had to approve my purchases, and one day we went and I was determined to buy The Dreaming. Well I flipped through the LP record covers for Kate Bush albums, and let's admit it, they are not the sort of thing to put your mom at ease. ("Why can't you listen to normal music?" she would say. "Like Fleetwood Mac or Journey?") Heck the back of Never for Ever gave me the willies when I looked at it that day. So I didn't buy the album, and it wasn't until Hounds of Love came out when I was in college that I bought my first Kate Bush album. And then I proceeded to buy all her earlier albums in the course of the next month. Todd Pierce Asheville NC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:02:19 +0100 From: Valerie Nozick Subject: Re: MTV Memories Ah, the early days of MTV. We only got it at the condo in Palm Springs, so every weekend I'd look forward to being a tv-junkie. I was probably around 10 or so then. Some of the videos I will always associate with early MTV: - - Golden Earring, song title? (When the bullet hits the bone...) - - The Buggles, Video Killed the Radio Star - - Squeeze, Black Coffee in Bed - - Kim Wilde, Kids in America - - Duran Duran, Hungry Like the Wolf (although that came a bit later) The VJs were great...I wanted to be Martha Quinn when I grew up, she was so cool looking. And Alan Hunter was cute to pre-teenager eyes. Anyone remember the controversy when MTV wouldn't play Michael Jackson and was accused of being racist? ==> Valerie Todd Pierce wrote: > When MTV debuted I was a freshman in high school...my sister a year younger. We had just got cable in our house. I think we watched MTV every day for the first year - came home from school, put on MTV, did homework while watching it. Much better than reruns of the Brady Bunch or the cartoon version of I Dream of Jeannie. And that was back when MTV actually played music videos at least 45 minutes each hour. > > I remember how at the top of each hour they'd have the astronaut on the moon, and the VJ would say what was coming up the next hour. If it was something worth seeing of course we'd wait the entire hour if need be to see it. > > What was worth seeing? For my sister anything with Duran Duran, the Cure, Billy Squier. For me it was all 'new wave' stuff - videos such as ABC's Lexicon of Love, Roxy Music's Avalon (I had a crush on the lady in that video), Berlin's The Metro (yep had a crush on Terri Nunn), and the video that caused me to beg and beg my parents for a record player so I could go buy the album and play it at home - Kim Wilde's Kids in America. > > I have a variation on the Kate Bush stories too...I saw the video for Suspended in Gaffa on MTV when I was 14, and I was totally enthralled by the voice, the melody, the singer. At that time I had to get my mom to drive me to the record store (Sound Warehouse), which meant she had to approve my purchases, and one day we went and I was determined to buy The Dreaming. Well I flipped through the LP record covers for Kate Bush albums, and let's admit it, they are not the sort of thing to put your mom at ease Mac or Journey?") Heck the back of Never for Ever gave me the willies when I looked at it that day. So I didn't buy the album, and it wasn't until Hounds of Love came out when I was i n college that I bought my first Kate Bush album. And then I proceeded to buy all her earlier albums in the course of the next month. > > Todd Pierce > Asheville NC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:01:46 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Qatsi Community Newsletter Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi are coming out on DVD this fall, and the 3rd film in the trilogy is being released as well! - ----- Forwarded message from "Institute for Regional Education (IRE)" ----- Qatsi Community Newsletter community update (August 2002) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This newsletter will bring you up to date with all new Qatsi events. We've updated our email lists, and the ability to stay in touch with the Qatsi community. There are a lot of changes to the website, and new information to share with you. We have exciting news about the release of both Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi on DVD. And, as if that weren't enough, we're also pleased to announce that Naqoyqatsi, the third and final film of Godfrey Reggio's Qatsi Trilogy will be released in theaters October 18th, 2002 by Miramax Films. Read on for more! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In this issue ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi on DVD * New Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi image gallery * Koyaanisqatsi archival reviews * Powaqqatsi archival reviews * Naqoyqatsi News Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi on DVD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Finally! For those of you having trouble getting a copy of one of these films over the last 15 years or so, the wait is over. MGM Home Entertainment will release a special 2 pack DVD of Koyaanisqatsi and Powaqqatsi (region 1 only, for now) on September 17, 2002. 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I remembered a music video > channel that was on in the New Jersey area called U-68. It was on in the > mid eighties, when I was in high school. (anyone else feeling old that > their high school music is now nostalgia/? ) Anyone else from the area > remember this, or am I alone : ).... No, you're not alone on this one... as someone whose viewing habits brought him to the UHF band so much (WNJU in its pre-Telemundo days when Japanese shows had a prime-time berth, WNYC before it was sold by the City of New York), I remember U68 well. But I also remember WSNL-TV, channel 67, which was launched as a local, indie station well before the launch of Wometco Home Theatre (WHT), a short-lived rival to cable's HBO and Showtime. Today, after some sixteen or seventeen years as a Home Shopping Network affiliate, the former WSNL and the former WWHT are now owned by Televisa's USA agents and are local affiliates of the Mexican media giant's Telefutura network (which went online back in late January). Of course, UHF stations are now on the endangered species list... :^( Philip David 8/29/2002 - --- The Polly Stephanson Project - looking for life beyond Hollywood and the FCC... http://homepage.mac.com/pollyshows/ - --- "Now go back and finish your oatmeal." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:50:50 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: MTV and HDTV Hi, Vickie reminisced: >Memories...there was some really great stuff >and some exceedingly silly stuff, and I loved >much of it. I don't know if any of these were >radio hits, because I didn't listen to the >radio, and only knew them from their MTV videos, >but off the top of my head I remember seeing: Oh, my. You just listed the contents of several of the mix tapes I made by putting my mom's crappy old tape recorder up to the speaker of my clock radio late at night!!! >"I Eat Cannibals" Total Coelo I had completely forgotten about this song! Wow, I loved that. Your entire list was great stuff. adam added: >The other was by Golden Earring, a song >called "Twilight Zone". This is one of the great lost >songs of ALL TIME, and had a fantastic, cine noir video >that went with it, one that went completely surreal towards >the end (and featured, if I'm not mistaken, leather-clad >dancers gyrating around at some bizarre point). Does >anyone else remember these? Oh, yeah!!! I even had that Golden Earring album on tape at one point, though it's long lost. I *loved* "Twilight Zone", and the video too. Another video band I remember was Planet P. They made really weird little flicks. And then the lead singer, Tony whasisname had his solo video ALL OVER MTV for what seemed like an entire summer, which was really unfortunate because it sucked. It's funny ... since as I mentioned my early MTV viewing took place almost exclusively in New Haven, there is still a neighborhood not too far from where we live now that never fails to inspire a memory of Howard Jones' "What Is Love" when I drive through it, because that's where my sister was living at the time. Strange how the brain makes connections. And I gotta say all these confessions involving Martha Quinn are really amusing. While I didn't realize it at the time, looking back I'm positive she was a big reason why I kept tuning in too (as was Mark Goodman, I always thought he was really cute for some reason). :) I wonder if MTV would have been successful without her as one of the VJs? (I know there's one Mojo Nixon song that never would've gotten written. ;) ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org NEXT UP: Annie Gallup, Saturday, 9/28 at 8 pm ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:48:26 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Buffy stuff (was Re: ecto-digest V8 #239) Hi, P2K inquired: >And to stay off topic for a little while longer, for you Buffy fans out >there, a question. Have you seen those Circuit City commercials where a >guy customer is returning something and looking for the receipt in his >wallet and fumbling around while the sales assistant has a slightly >bemused look on her face and tells him that they keep all the information >from the purchases in their computers? Don't you think that she looks >like Amber Benson (willow's girlfriend Tara)? Yes!!! woj and I have commented on this ourselves. (In case the Buffyheads out there haven't heard the big casting news: Eliza Dushku. Five episodes of "Buffy", three of "Angel". You gotta have Faith, indeed. Numphar, dance the dance of joy!!!) ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org NEXT UP: Annie Gallup, Saturday, 9/28 at 8 pm ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:24:19 -0400 From: rwink@frontiernet.net Subject: What a Great Group Much thanks to Kjetil for replying to my question on the newsgroups. I'm amazed at the music that you folks follow...it is so much like what I listed to regularly. Nice to know there are kindrid spirits out there in the world. Favorites of mine include Andrea Florian (independent singer/songwriter from Toronto), Martina Sorbara, Sarah Harmer, Sarah Sleen, Beth Nielsen Chapman and many, many more. Roger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:34:54 -0700 From: "Russ Van Rooy" Subject: Re: MTV and HDTV Ah memories .... I always craved music television long before there was MTV ,but I would only get fulfillment from Saturday Night Live or In Concert . For example I can remember Patti Smith on SNL singing "My Generation". MTV struck me as being both cool and corny at the same time. I remember the Buggles as being cool ,but thought Madonna (Star Bright) as being pretty close to the same kind of tripe that pre-teens love so much today ( Nsync, M&M). The list of MTV regulars below is a good example of how when we get nostalgic, we think things were soooo much better ...when in reality, the tripe that's on the radio and video these days is no better , or worse, than what was on MTV 20 years ago. While I must admit I liked some of the groups and artists in the list below, by and large I'd have to say what a bunch of one-hit-wonders, wannabees, and also-rans. When I get nostalgic about MTV, the videos I miss are by groups like U2, R.E.M, The Cure, Elvis Costello, Devo, The Talking Heads, The Tom Tom Club, The English Beat, Even Till Tuesday (Aimee Man). If I never see the video for Der Commissar again or 99 Luft Balloons, I think I'll be okay. On the other hand it was a time that we will never see the likes of again and I was young and full of hope. =- Russ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "WretchAwry" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:57 PM Subject: Re: MTV and HDTV > "Living On The Ceiling" by Blancmange, > "Vienna" > Ultravox, "New Frontiers" Donald Fagen, > "Friends > of Mr Cairo" Jon Anderson & Van Gelis, > "One > Step Beyond" Madness, "Steppin Out" Joe > Jackson, > "Gypsy" Fleetwood Mac, "Avalon" Roxy > Music, > "Europa and the Pirate Twins" Thomas Dolby, > "I Eat Cannibals" Total Coelo, "Wot?" > Captain > Sensible, "Don't Pay the Ferryman" Chris > DeBurgh, > "Der Kommissar" by Falco and After the Fire, > "Person Person" Joe "King" Carrasco, > "Visions > of China" Japan, "Norman Bates" Landscape, > "Big > Electric Cat" Adrian Belew, "All Touch" > Rough > Trade, "Shiny Shiny" Hayzi Fantayzee, "Bag > Lady" > EBN-OZN, "Stand By" Roman Holiday, > "Puttin' On > The Ritz" Taco, "Don't Box Me In" Stewart > Copeland > & Stan Ridgeway, "Pop Music" M, "Shoop > Shoop" > Monte Video, "One Night in Bangkok" Murray > Head, > "Close To The Edit" Art of Noise, among many > others, ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:32:36 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Live At The House O'Muzak Returns! Hi, So I'm sitting at work yesterday, listening to Rachael Sage's _Illusion's Carnival_, when my phone rings. "Hi, this is Jeff from MPress Records..." I don't know how it happened, but we've got almost an entire house concert series lined up. Since I'm usually doing these at rather the last minute, this is a new experience for me. :) Here is what we've got so far: Saturday, September 28 at 8 pm: ANNIE GALLUP Sunday, October 6 at 4 pm: RACHAEL SAGE Sunday, December 8 at 4 pm: CHRIS & MEREDITH THOMPSON Sunday, January 26 at 4 pm: HOLLY FIGUEROA I'm just waiting to finalize a date with Bon Lozaga for October, and I also hope to get Ruthie Foster here in the spring. I'm currently accepting reservations for Annie Gallup. I'll post a more formal and detailed notice soon, but for now I just wanted to share my joy at all the great stuff that's going to be happening in our living room over the next few months. :) I've moved the House O'Muzak web site to an easier URL: http://muzak.smoe.org (thanks, woj and JeffW). All the details are there. Whee!! ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org NEXT UP: Annie Gallup, Saturday, 9/28 at 8 pm ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:42:38 -0400 From: "dave" Subject: Freakie MTV I kept hearing mentions about the MTV Video Music Awards over the past few days.. I don't get the connection.. does MTV have something to do with music videos? Or music at all? Ok.. going to the way-back machine, I remember the first video I saw on MTV.. Phil Collins doing 'In the Air Tonight'. I spent a good portion of the 80's glued to that channel.. and yes, Martha was a big part of the attraction.. I've seen her a few times recently on an infommercial hawking 80's CDs.. and I agree with the previous post that said she must be a vampire.. So what happened to MTV? It was a great concept at the beginning, but somewhere along the line they moved from 'let's play some videos of good songs' to 'let's destroy the moral fabric of society'. The only explaination I can come up with is that fallout from nuclear tests combined with the thinning of the ozone layer have caused a genetic change in the human race that's deprived the majority of people born after 1980 of any taste in music (or anything else). One thing I've been thinking someone should do.. take a bunch of those old videos and release them on DVD, just like those Time-Life music collections, but with video. Would be great to see some of the old forgotten ones again.. Hey, they could even have Martha pop in every now and then to announce the songs and add a little commentary. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:46:00 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Kym Brown (was: garmarna U.S. dates; neko case dates) Paul asks: >Oh, by the way, does anyone know how to purchase copies of Kym >Brown's stuff? I've been meaning to get Pygmalion for a while. A local store still has two copies, I think because no one knows who she is (I phoned today to doublecheck that they still had them). I'd be happy to pick it up for anyone who wants it. Or you can ask her if it's available elsewhere at kymbrown7@yahoo.com - --Neile n.p. samples from a Danish band called Speaker Bite Me. 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