From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #238 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, August 28 2002 Volume 08 : Number 238 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Zoom ["Todd Pierce" ] analog missionary [Damon Harper ] Re: Zoom [gSs ] Re: Zoom [Sue Trowbridge ] Ecto exchange [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: Ecto exchange [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: Zoom [meredith ] HDTV [kerry white ] Re: HDTV [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 06:57:53 -0500 From: "Todd Pierce" Subject: Zoom I am in the mid-30s age group and remember watching Zoom growing up in New Orleans. Didn't it have segments like "let's roll out the bar-rel, and see what's inside today?" Also one of the kids would draw a doodle and you had to guess what it was - things like 'four elephants playing with a baseball' or 'ship arriving too late to save a drowing witch' (which was used on a Frank Zappa album, I think, though who used it first I don't know.) And I remember having a crush on an Oriental girl with long hair who used to do some wonderful flowering movement with her arms - does anyone remember this? I remember trying for days to do the same thing and I never could. Someone mentioned Villa Allegre and Big Blue Marble...I had forgotten those. Wow. I also remember watching public TV during the day and seeing lots of little 15 minute educational shows - like Other People Other Places, Inside Out, The Metric Show (back when the US was going metric yes sir), some science guy, I can't remember any more right now. Does anyone remember Saturday mornings back then - I remember watching the cartoon versions of Star Trek and the Brady Bunch, and Fat Albert, and live action shows like Shazam, Isis, and The Ark...I could ramble on all day. Todd Pierce Asheville NC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 02:36:35 -0700 From: Damon Harper Subject: analog missionary hello all! just wanted to write and point out that my review of a debut disc by a band called `analog missionary' just got uploaded to the guide. now, i'm not very confident about the comparisons i made in the review - - the more i listen the less i hear them but i decided to go with gut instinct and first impressions. please note that, as i state in the review, most of the comparisons are *very* tenative; a.m. is mostly definitely their own thing. but i can say with certainty that i very much like the cd and recommend it if the words i slapped on it sound intriguing at all. good stuff. but watch out for the scary bunny. http://ectoguide.org/guide.cgi?artists/analog.missionary - -damon, thinking now that he'll listen to it as he (finally) goes to sleep tonight ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:43:29 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Zoom During the late seventies I remember watching British after-school specials and they often mentioned eels and fish & chips. The children had the traditional folkloric fears, and I seems like the themes were sometimes dark. Does anyone remember these stories and has anyone seen them in the last 20 years? > The Metric Show (back when the US was going metric yes sir), scheweez.. glad that never happened. how would we know a good pot deal while in the uk? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:11:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: Zoom On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Todd Pierce wrote: > And I remember having a crush on an Oriental girl > with long hair who used to do some wonderful flowering movement with > her arms - does anyone remember this? I remember trying for days to do > the same thing and I never could. At the risk of boring the younger & non-American subscribers to this list, her name was Bernadette, and I learned how to do the arm movement, something I can still do to this day, but don't very often. :) http://pbskids.org/zoom/too/nostalgia/arm_thing.html I used to loooove Zoom...it was the first show I got hooked on after PBS became available in my city (Grand Rapids, Mich.). What a bounty it was to suddenly have FOUR TV channels! Yeah, you young whippersnappers, we had ABC, NBC, CBS and then PBS...no VCR's...and somehow we survived! - --Sue, feeling ancient ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:53:38 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Ecto exchange A long time ago, we had a separate site that allowed us to offer ecto fare up for sale or trade with other e-philes. Is it still out there? If not, I have a ton of ectoish CDs that I'm getting rid of. I was going to put them all on eBay, but I'd like to offer them up here first. Would there be an objection to listing them here? No problem, if it is. Just asking. Thanks! Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:57:25 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Ecto exchange if not here.........where? list away ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:08:40 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Zoom Hi, Todd recalled: >I am in the mid-30s age group and remember watching Zoom growing up in New >Orleans. Didn't it have segments like "let's roll out the bar-rel, and see >what's inside today?" Oh yeah, I remember that one!! >Someone mentioned Villa Allegre and Big Blue Marble...I had forgotten >those. Wow. I also remember watching public TV during the day and seeing >lots of little 15 minute educational shows - like Other People Other >Places, Inside Out, The Metric Show (back when the US was going metric yes >sir), some science guy, I can't remember any more right now. Wow. We used to watch those 15-minute shows in elementary school. Our local PBS system (WCBB in Maine) supposedly pioneered the "ETV" concept, in which during school hours these short educational shows were shown and accompanying curriculum guides were provided to any school that wanted them. It was like Channel One, only without the commercials. Which ones we watched depended on which grade we were in ... for example I have clear memories of watching "The Letter People" in kindergarten (didn't John Sebastian sing the theme song for that? "Come and meet the Letter People ..."), and "The Metric Show" in third grade. There was also one on safety that either they only ever made one episode of (What To Do If There Is A Fire In Your House), or every time we watched it they just happened to be showing that one. (It got to the point where we could recite all of the lines verbatim ... and since our teacher was usually not paying attention, instead using those 15 minutes for lesson planning or a bathroom break, she had no idea we had all seen it 15 times. It was pretty funny.) There was an art one, too. Not the guy with the happy little trees (though we sometimes watched him too), but some other old geezer who taught us how to draw circles and other such useful things. My mom, who was an elementary school teacher for more than 35 years (and taught at the school I attended) used to say that starting with my generation, she felt like she needed to cut a hole in a box and stick it on her head in order to get any of her students to pay attention to her. She thanked Sesame Street and the in-classroom TV curriculum for that. I now understand what she meant ... but when I was in school there was nowhere near the ADD there is now! (Thank you, eMpTV!) >Does anyone remember Saturday mornings back then - I remember watching the >cartoon versions of Star Trek and the Brady Bunch, and Fat Albert, and >live action shows like Shazam, Isis, and The Ark...I could ramble on all day. Oh, my. Where I was, the cartoon version of Star Trek was on weekday afternoons, before the "real" version. I remember watching both when I got home from school. Saturday mornings had Fat Albert, the Pink Panther (but you had to be up REALLY early to catch that), the Bugs Bunny & Road Runner Show, the Smurfs ... Underdog, Alvin & The Chipmunks and Rocky & Bullwinkle were on Sunday mornings for some reason. The live action shows were on Saturday after noon ... besides Shazam and Isis, I remember Big John/Little John, Thunder!, Land Of The Lost, and one I'm blanking on, it was another Sid & Marty Krofft thing that took place on a spaceship and was probably a riff off "Lost In Space". I think it starred JoAnn Worley, or Ruth Buzzy (I always got them mixed up when they were on the Gong Show too :). Anyone remember that one? Sue added: >What a bounty it was to >suddenly have FOUR TV channels! Yeah, you young whippersnappers, we had >ABC, NBC, CBS and then PBS...no VCR's...and somehow we survived! Hear, hear! I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the house I grew up in *still* doesn't have cable. All we had was the four channels, and the reception on two of them was so bad that my dad finally got a super-hi-tech antenna thingie that looked like a flying saucer and lived on a table on the top floor next to my bedroom door. It had a "remote" (as in, a wire that ran all the way down from the antenna to the living room) controller that would move it either to the right or to the left, and when the antenna was in motion the thing sounded like it was getting ready for liftoff. Since it was outside my room, many was the night I would be awakened by my dad adjusting the antenna so there would only be one Johnny Carson on the screen instead of three. My friends who lived in town, and not in the boonies like me did have cable by the time we hit junior high, which meant hours spent on the telephone with any one of them while they watched MTV and gave me a shot-by-shot rundown of the latest Duran Duran video. ("Simon's coming up out of the water ... the freaky woman with the weird makeup is sneaking through the trees at him ... wait, now they're on a boat. Freaky woman is still there." "How the heck did they get on a boat?" "I don't know, they just did! Oh wait, now they're back in the jungle again." ;>) The memories ... ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org NEXT UP: Annie Gallup, Saturday, 9/28 at 8 pm ============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:34:43 -0500 (CDT) From: kerry white Subject: HDTV Hi, with all the TV talk, Zoom, etc, I am reminded that every so often I like to check if people know about High Definition TV and what it means. Does everyone [here] know that mandated by congress and the FCC, all TV stations have to transmit a digital signal and the old (NTSC) signal by 2005 and the government expects the old signal to be dropped by 2007. At that time only digital TVs or TVs with digital adaptors (another box to set on the TV) will work. I am still suprised by the fact that they are not doing much to inform the country. Widescreen TV sales are kinda up, but only 10% are sold with Digital tuners. And those may be obsolete as new program content protection devices are added. How many people will bitch about having no choice when the time comes? Bye, KrW My aspiration is communication, but my forte is obfuscation! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:47:50 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: HDTV Hi, Kerry pointed out: > Does everyone [here] know that mandated by congress and the FCC, all TV >stations have to transmit a digital signal and the old (NTSC) signal by >2005 and the government expects the old signal to be dropped by 2007. At >that time only digital TVs or TVs with digital adaptors (another box to >set on the TV) will work. I am aware of this, and I am seriously pissed off by this transparent attempt by the US government to cram a new technology down our throats for the sole reason of freeing up broadcast bandwidth so the FCC can sell it to telecom companies owned by cronies of the good-ol-boys in Washington. Oh yeah, and the TV hardware lobby is throwing their share of money around up on the Hill too. The Sonys and Magnavoxes and RCA's of the world stand to make a KILLING. > I am still suprised by the fact that they are not doing much to inform >the country. I'm not. They're counting on mass ignorance, so there will be minimal opposition to their plan. > How many people will bitch about having no choice when the time comes? If the current state of our union is any indication, not nearly enough. Sorry, I'm having one of my more depressed and cynical days ... I'm going to go crawl into bed now. (I do have one thing to be happy about: front row center tickets to see Aimee Mann in Noho in October!! Yay!! Thanks, JeffW!!!) ============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org NEXT UP: Annie Gallup, Saturday, 9/28 at 8 pm ============================================== ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #238 **************************