From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #168 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, June 17 2002 Volume 08 : Number 168 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] marianne nowottny ["Adam K." ] Peter Hammill, live ["Adam K." ] Re: marianne nowottny [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 03:00:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ************ Mike Matthews (matthewm@matthews.leesburg.va.us) ************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Sr. SAFH Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. 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Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer R. Rapp Wed July 14 1954 On a Gray Eye Sojourn John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Dan Stark Sun July 16 1961 Cancer - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:51:40 +0100 From: "Adam K." Subject: marianne nowottny On Saturday, I decided to take advantage of the empty streets the football gave me and go into town to trawl. I had the good fortune, where a couple of US sites had already been unable to help me, of finding Marianne Nowottny's "mandmade girl" in a basement for only a fiver. Well, "good fortune" may be stretching it a bit. I'm just listening to it for the first time, and all I can think is -- There's TWO CD'S of this stuff!!!??? Well, hell, it was only a fiver. Maybe "good fortune" IS the phrase. Did I just start in the wrong place again (as I did with Jane Siberry)? Or is this as coherent and musical as she gets? adam k. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:42:03 +0100 From: "Adam K." Subject: Peter Hammill, live I'm a BIG fan of this man, as I know I've rambled on about before on this list, and his last London gig, at the QEH, amazed me by not only being the best I've ever seen him, but being one of the best gigs I've ever seen by anybody. Mr. Hammill, for those unaware, is one of the great English musical treasures, with a career of over 30 years behind him. Rising to prominence with his progrock band, Van der Graaf Generator, he's pursued a solo career of singular bloody-mindedness and individuality that has cost him many record deals but created quite a legacy (David Bowie, Julian Cope and Johnny Lydon are all big fans). Think of Peter Gabriel before he went all World Music, then think of him darker and more obscure. This time around, he was booked infor three performances at the Lyric Hammersmith, a venue better known for its theatre productions. I booked myself in for the Friday evening and Saturday matinee, as the lowdown on the series of gigs was that it was his "50 Ballads" tour, and that he wouldn't be repeating a song for the entire run. I was interested to see how the sets would differ, and I'm glad I did. Silver-haired and ever-more skeletal, diffident, graceful, boyishly good-humoured, Mr. Hammill was accompanied, as so often in recent years, by Stuart Gordon on violin. Hammill himself switches from grand piano to acoustic guitar for the performances. Friday night was extremely patchy - --- he seemed strained vocally, and his habit of deconstructing his songs - -- different tempos and different emphasis in different places -- is laudable, but tends to backfire, as the songs often fall apart entirely in a shapeless, stuttering mess, and the set is reduced to a rather lumpy stew. Added to which, the mix on the violin was far too loud for the first half, and it became intrusive and rather irritating. Still, a good gig if not a great one --- which was to follow on the Saturday matinee. He'd found his voice again, and it glided effortlessly between moods and keys, from the high, sweet, croon to the low, throaty, fearsome growl. The matinee is focussed, intense, awe-inspiring. Even songs that I don't particularly like are delivered with such commitment and passion, I can only pick myself up off of the floor afterwards and go "wow". And the whole afternoon was like that. When this man is on song, he's just untouchable -- he could still whip Coldplay, Travis and Muse with both hands tied behind his back, and most likely give Radiohead a good kicking, as well (I read somewhere he's done a cover of "Exit Music" at one gig -- hell, they should be covering HIM!) Great stuff -- great, great stuff. adam k. Great stuff -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 10:32:23 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: marianne nowottny Adam K. wrote re: Marianne Nowottny >Did I just start in the wrong place again (as I did with Jane >Siberry)? Or is this as coherent and musical as she gets? Well, I find her unlistenable. This is clearly a matter of taste, as others here really like her. I'm perfectly willing to admit that my taste has boundaries and she is beyond them: to my ears she doesn't sound so young and new and experimental as she does like Marlene Dietrich singing in _The Blue Angel_ in 1930. - --Neile - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ............ http://www.ectoguide.org ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #168 **************************