From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #95 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, April 5 2002 Volume 08 : Number 095 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: more Celtic [Jessica Byers ] Re: Irish Festival in Montana ["Marion Kippers" ] Re: Celtic suggestions ["Joanna M. Phillips" ] Re: more Celtic ["neal copperman" ] Re: more Celtic [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: more Celtic [invader woj ] Re: more Celtic [Carolyn Andre ] Cowboy Junkies in the Bay [] Re: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay [gSs ] Re: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay [Jeff Wasilko ] Musicians: Please Read [Tamar Boursalian ] Re: more Celtic ["neal copperman" ] Re: Irish Festival in Montana [CDavis ] RE: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay ["Phil" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 00:10:21 -0700 From: Jessica Byers Subject: Re: more Celtic Yeah we just had Karan Casey here for a show last Saturday. She was amazing!! Dont know if she'd come back so soon, though it would be fine with me. Susan McKeown would be fine, too. :) Jess >From: Neal Copperman >Subject: more Celtic > >I think former Solas vocalist Karan Casey is on tour with a trio and >it looks like she's playing pretty modest venues. > >And of course, there's Susan McKeown :) > >neal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 13:14:55 +0200 From: "Marion Kippers" Subject: Re: Irish Festival in Montana Hi, Jessica wrote : > I've just been put in charge of booking the Irish Festival for > Missoula, Montana [...] > If people have some suggestions for acts that would be good for this > and won't cost $20,000 (ie not the Chieftains), I'd love to hear > from you. I was going to say Shenanigan, but they're from Canada and according to their website they don't do public gigs at the moment. Their website does have a huge Artists Links page though that might be interesting for you, with links to over 700 traditional (and trad-influenced) bands and artists. The Shenanigan website is at http://www.shenanigan.bc.ca/ (This is frames -- to go directly to the Artist Links Page use http://www.shenanigan.bc.ca/ArtistsAZ.html ). Hope this helps. Best wishes, Marion (who hasn't posted here for a long time, but is still reading the messages and enjoying the Music. Recent acquisitions include Richard Shindell's "Courier" [live], Karnataka, and Eliza Gilkyson -- all great albums.) n.p. a sampler fellow Ectophile Leon made me, including Hem, Vienna Teng, Cathie Ryan, Susan McKeown, a.o. More acquisitions to follow...) n.r. Tad Williams -- City of Golden Shadow (Otherland book 1) and Tad Williams -- Shadowmarch (his on-line Episodic fantasy project at http://www.shadowmarch.com/ ) - -- Marion Kippers Marion.Kippers@zonnet.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 09:24:58 -0500 From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Celtic suggestions Jess writes: <> Connie Dover is a nationally known artist whose style is more traditional. She lives in the Kansas City area and is known to play modest venues. She appeared on the first "Women of the World - Celtic" Putamayo release if you are not familiar with her. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:50:38 -0500 From: "Bill Adler" Subject: RE: Irish Festival in Montana Jess, Sounds like lots of fun. I've organized a couple Celtic concerts in Washington, DC. People love to attend, so you'll have a wonderful turnout, I expect. My personal favorite Celtic bands are at www.adlerbooks.com/celticmusic.html. I've recently discovered a new band, which is looking for places to perform: It's called Jiggernaut. You can read more about them at www.jiggernaut.com. The lead musician is Wolf Loescher, formerly of SixMileBridge (what a Celtic band that was!) To book Jiggernaut, email info@jiggernaut.com or call 713-398-0125. You might also want to see if Beth Patterson is available. She used to be part of The Poor Clares, but is now on her own. There's more about her at http://www.littlebluemen.com/beth.htm. She can play the bouzouki like nobody else! - --Bill - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jessica Byers Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:17 AM To: ecto-digest Subject: Irish Festival in Montana Hi there, I've just been put in charge of booking the Irish Festival for Missoula, Montana (to be sponsored by the Missoula Folklore Society and the Montana Gaelic Cultural Society). I don't really know a ton of Irish music beyond Karan Casey, Solas, Altan, and basic stuff like that. If people have some suggestions for acts that would be good for this and won't cost $20,000 (ie not the Chieftains), I'd love to hear from you. This is not an urban avant garde area, so let's not get too Ecto-ish... Thanks Jess ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 11:49:52 -0500 From: "Joanna M. Phillips" Subject: Re: Celtic suggestions At 09:24 AM 4/4/02 -0500, you wrote: >Jess writes: > ><for this and won't cost $20,000 (ie not the Chieftains), I'd love to hear >from you. >> > >Connie Dover is a nationally known artist whose style is more traditional. >She lives in the Kansas City area and is known to play modest venues. She >appeared on the first "Women of the World - Celtic" Putamayo release if >you are not familiar with her. > >Lisa She has four albums out. I have the first three, and they are just *beautiful*! fleur ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:47:35 -0000 From: "neal copperman" Subject: Re: more Celtic Jessica Byers said: > Yeah we just had Karan Casey here for a show last Saturday. She was > amazing!! Dont know if she'd come back so soon, though it would be > fine with me. I know I'm somewhat geographically impaired, but I think Montana is kind of close to Canada :) Maybe some of the Cape Breton performers who play in similar traditions would be worth considering? Probably the biggest ticket is Natalie McMaster (MacMaster?). But I don't think she's all that big yet. And probably somewhat smaller is Mary Jane Lammond (who is excellent in concert). And I never manage to see April Verch at Folk Alliance, but she strikes me as being in the vein of Ms MacMaster. And a couple of weeks ago I saw Flogging Molly, though perhaps that's not really the Celtic tradition you are working towards :) neal np: Space Groove - Projekct Two ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 11:59:48 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: more Celtic neal sez: > I know I'm somewhat geographically impaired, but I think Montana is kind of > close to Canada :) > Maybe some of the Cape Breton performers who play in similar traditions would > be worth considering? Okay, it's in Canada, but at what point did Nova Scotia (so far east it's time zone is an hour before the east coast's!) get anywhere near Montana? (No, I don't have any recommendations, I was just amused by the whole canada thing) Hmmm. What's Lisa Moscatiello up to? I guess Whirligig is still around and touring... http://www.whirligig.org (okay, so I lied) jeff n.p. _Woman in (e)motion_, Veda Hille ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 12:27:24 -0500 From: invader woj Subject: Re: more Celtic when we last left our heroes, neal copperman exclaimed: >I know I'm somewhat geographically impaired, but I think Montana is kind of >close to Canada :) > >Maybe some of the Cape Breton performers who play in similar traditions would >be worth considering? though it's a bit of a haul from the canadian maritimes to the northern plains! perhaps a band like the vancouver-based paperboys and their country-tinged, celtic folk pop rock would be a good addition? they're not traditional, but are often well-received on the summer festival circuit when you need a high-energy slot to fill. woj n.p. wpkn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: more Celtic - --- Jeffrey Burka wrote: > > Hmmm. What's Lisa Moscatiello up to? I guess > Whirligig is still around > and touring... http://www.whirligig.org Lisa is performing/touring with Whirligig, with several of her "standard" celtic/ballad/singer-songwriter configurations, and also an upcoming gig in one of her alternative configurations as "Space Dots" ... http://lisamoscatiello.com/lmconcerts.html She HAS been gigging outside of the DC/NY corridor - though this time around the closest to Chicago was Ann Arbor, MI (I did get to her her solo last summer in a house concert in Aurora)... (I haven't gotten the dates updated to include her gigs after May yet ... and yes, I know, I was talking on the phone last nite while updating the tour dates & screwed up one of the image links ... :-) She has three "Lisa" albums out - her debut, "Innocent When You Dream", her 2000 release, "Second Avenue", and a live acoustic performance, "Angry Town"; an EP as "Space Dots," and quite a few with the techno "Arthur Loves Plastic". ... available at CD Street: http://www.cdstreet.com/cgi-bin/artist_products.cgi?347080& (as a related ecto-Whirligig item, fiddler Lisa Gutkin appeared in "Peter and Wendy" during the 2nd half of its recent run when Johnny Cunningham went on his Fiddlers tour) ===== Regards, Carolyn Andre candre@house-of-music.com Carolyn's House of Music http://house-of-music.com/ Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:31:52 -0500 From: Subject: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay Hey y'all, Just so y'all are aware, you can get Cowboy Junkies tickets for the two shows at the Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA, at TicketMaster . The Internet pre-sale is going on now, and you need the password 'KFOG' (without the quotes!) to buy them. A pair of the best seats will run you $109.00, after TM extracts their pound of flesh. :/ /nm {what the hell is this nearly $8 per ticket 'convenience charge'?!} ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:37:03 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay nadyne sez: > {what the hell is this nearly $8 per ticket 'convenience charge'?!} notice that they don't say *whose* convenience...clearly it refers to the convenient ability to withdraw money from their own coffers. Even without the ticketbastard charges, $50/seat seems incredibly pricey... jeff n.p. _Momentary Lapse of Reason_, Pink Floyd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:05:18 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > Even without the ticketbastard charges, $50/seat seems incredibly pricey... incredible? i put that a bit past incredible, approaching even coxcombical. i have always wanted to use that word in a note. i guess they haven't heard dylan's latest. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:39:49 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 02:37:03PM -0500, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > nadyne sez: > > > {what the hell is this nearly $8 per ticket 'convenience charge'?!} > > notice that they don't say *whose* convenience...clearly it refers to > the convenient ability to withdraw money from their own coffers. > > Even without the ticketbastard charges, $50/seat seems incredibly pricey... I think the junkies are hitting smaller venues than usual on this summer tour, so that might explain the higher ticket prices. - -j ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 12:47:17 -0800 (PST) From: Tamar Boursalian Subject: Musicians: Please Read Hi all, This came to me via the Jeff Buckley International Newsletter (specifically through Mary Guibert, Jeff's mom) and I thought it might be of interest to some of you, particularly Ms. Rhodes herself. Happy Spring, Tamar - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE: Musicians: Please Read This message is about a program taking place for musicians located in the USA, but I'm hoping that each and every one of you who cannot benefit from it personally will pass the information on. It has long been a pet peeve of mine that record labels do not include their signed artists and bands in the same group health benefits package that everyone in their organization enjoys, right down to the mailroom clerk. Individual insurance policies are extremely costly and few musicians can afford them. Last time I checked, musicians and their familles are not immune to disease and injury. If they wish to remain independent, musicians must create and join coalitions with other musicians to further their agenda and create new solutions to the age-old and new-age dilemmas which face musicians in today's fractured industry. In my travels I have met a most magnificent individual, Jenny Toomey, who is the Executive Director of an equally amazing organization called Future of Music Coalition. They are based in Washington, DC, and they are REALLY doing something to protect and promote artists' rights. She recently sent me a message and asked me to pass it along to my readers, with a plea that you respond to her request if you are a musician located in the USA -- or pass it along to a musician if you aren't one. I also strongly recommend that you peruse their website and read their Manifesto word-for-word. It's filled with very important information and, I think, a message of hope for independent musicians in the US and a philosophical model for musicians all over the world. Thanks for your attention. Best regards, Mary Guibert Jenny writes: Hi folks. The Future of Music Coalition is taking baby steps towards figuring out ways to help more musicians get better health care for less money, and we need five minutes of your time. Our first goal is to quantify the musician/insurance landscape. As musicians ourselves we know the lack of health insurance is a big problem, but before we start talking to insurance companies and legislators we need some hard numbers. From March 15 - June 30, 2002 the FMC is conducting an online survey to better understand musicians' experience with health insurance coverage. The survey is posted here: http://www.futureofmusic.org/research/healthsurvey.cfm Please feel free to fill it out yourself or preview the questions. It just takes a couple of minutes. More importantly, we're hoping you can help us spread the word about the survey's existence to your network of musicians, songwriters, and artists by posting a short notice in your newsletter, providing a link on your website, or just sending out a little email to your rocker friends. Helpful items: A link to a button you can add on your site: http://www.futureofmusic.org/images/hsbutton2.gif A link to a banner you can add to your site: http://www.futureofmusic.org/images/hsbanner.gif A PDF postcard you can attach to an email, or for printing to make copies: http://www.futureofmusic.org/images/healthinspostcard.pdf The Future of Music Coalition is a not-for-profit collaboration between leading musicians and experts from the worlds of technology, public policy and intellectual property law. The FMC seeks to educate the media, policymakers, and the public about music / technology issues, while also bringing together key stakeholders in an effort to come up with creative solutions to some of the challenges in this space. The FMC also aims to identify and promote innovative business models that will help musicians and citizens benefit from new technologies. Find out what else we're working on by visiting our site: http://www.futureofmusic.org - ------------------------------- The success of this research project depends on how many musicians complete the survey, and we're hoping that thousands do so we have a rich data set that captures the full diversity of musicians and songwriters. We're also urging survey respondents to forward us any personal stories regarding health insurance and health care they're willing to share publicly, so that the data fits within a context of human experience. We are simultaneously working on other avenues of outreach, including posting to news groups, flyering at music events and in record shops, contacting booking agents and bands on tour, and running PSAs on college radio. If you can think of any other organizations or groups that would be interested in this project, please let us know. When the survey is complete, the FMC will analyze the data and report the findings publicly. We hope that this survey can be a catalyst to create a broader and more results-oriented discussion about workable health insurance solutions for the music community. We thank you in advance for your support! Jenny Toomey Executive Director The Coalition for the Future of Music jenny@futureofmusic.org www.futureofmusic.org 202.518.4117 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:42:33 -0000 From: "neal copperman" Subject: Re: more Celtic Jeffrey Burka said: > (No, I don't have any recommendations, I was just amused by the whole > canada thing) Canada is kind of amusing :) neal np: Goodbye Jumbo - World Party ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 22:02:24 -0800 From: CDavis Subject: Re: Irish Festival in Montana >I've just been put in charge of booking the Irish Festival for >Missoula, Montana (to be sponsored by the Missoula Folklore Society >and the Montana Gaelic Cultural Society). I don't really know a ton >of Irish music beyond Karan Casey, Solas, Altan, and basic stuff like >that. If people have some suggestions for acts that would be good >for this and won't cost $20,000 (ie not the Chieftains), I'd love to >hear from you. This is not an urban avant garde area, so let's not >get too Ecto-ish... Someone who would be a good addition is Connie Dover, whom (last I heard) lives in Kansas City. She has several very good albums and does both Celtic & Western styles. She can sing in Gaelic and has a beautiful voice. I don't, however, have any contact information. The two albums I have are published by Taylor Park Music (BMI). C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:05:49 -0800 From: "Phil" Subject: RE: Cowboy Junkies in the Bay Many of the wineries in this area stage events, as their gardens and grounds are a great venue. The $50 ticket charge is pretty standard for these places, as they mostly cater to a rather upscale crowd. Places like Villa Saratoga, close to where I live have staged some pretty well-known names there and shake down the rich locals for annual subscriptions, to 'support' the music programs. A thousand bucks or something close, gets you season tickies, a free bottle of Chateau Fechez-La-Vache 1999, and preferred seating for the year. Especially with the summer concerts under the stars, the ambience and intimacy of the smaller venues makes for some inspired performances. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #95 *************************