From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #83 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, March 24 2002 Volume 08 : Number 083 Today's Subjects: ----------------- carla lother [meredith ] Re: hippietown USA and SF gigs I forgot [cyo@landoftheblind.com] Re: hi folks [Greg Bossert ] oh yeah... [meredith ] What she said... [Paul Blair ] Re: Portland, Oregon [Brian Bloom ] Re: imaginary friend [Yngve Hauge ] Re: imaginary friend [Joseph Zitt ] RE: Night bugs ["Amy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:42:11 -0500 From: meredith Subject: carla lother Hi, Anybody ever hear of Carla Lother? She opened for Susan McKeown and the Chanting House last night, and it was a rather odd experience. I actually found the set rather enjoyable, though she had a diva-ness about her that could get old *really* quickly (it was similar to the problem Paula Cole had playing at Fez ere those long years ago, when she was emoting for Madison Square Garden in a room the size of, well, a lounge), at least until after it was over and everyone else I was with started going off on how horribly awful they'd thought she was. The minute she walked out on stage I knew she had to be Canadian ... don't ask me why, I can't even begin to explain it. Sure enough, a check of http://www.carlalother.com reveals that she's originally from Winnipeg, though she's been living in NYC for a while now. She had a full band: drums (Susan's drummer, in fact - he had a busy night), bass, guitar, and even two backup singers. Lother herself played piano, tin whistle and flute. The whole ensemble reminded me strongly of Jane Siberry's lineup at the Bottom Line when she recorded _Child_ - one of her backup singers looked and sounded a lot like Philip (um, blanking on his last name), the one with the funky falsetto voice. The music was very lush, though I agree with the boys that the arrangements were pretty standard. Her voice sounded a lot like Pipa Pinon's, when Pipa is doing her best Happy Rhodes impression -- meaning, she sounded a lot like Happy's upper register, but more like someone sounding like Happy's upper register. She did a lot of Celtic-influenced music, which I guess is why she was opening for Susan (she obviously had no idea who Susan was, telling us to "stick around for Susan MacEuen and Chanting House" - um, you're the opening act, of course that's who we're here to see!). The backup singers actually added a lot to the sound, too. I wouldn't run away from seeing her again. I was just wondering if anyone else out there knew of her, or had heard her CD. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ======================================= (: New England Patriots - Super Bowl XXXVI CHAMPIONS :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:59:54 -0800 From: cyo@landoftheblind.com Subject: Re: hippietown USA and SF gigs I forgot so Eugene is the Hippie capitol of the world, wow, i always wondered why they loved LAND OF THE BLIND so much, why we used to play in own home town Portland, to clubs full of snotty-black-on-black coolies who couldn't decide if we were cool or not, (besides Michael Pierce and a few other that were intelligent, tee hee)and after that we would have to run down the state two hours to Eugene to get another fix of kindness, wackiness and fun. Playing Eugene's Wow Hall is the highlight, especially the annual Witches Ball there every Halloween, we did 6 years in a row, the most fun you could ever have in a giant concert hall with 300 pagens dressed as trees and wind spirits and other clever hippie/earth folk costumes...ahhhh, worth a trip from Portland anytime for the nice Texas man who just moved to ORR-EEE-GUUN. Worth a 10 hour drive for me now, SF homie, where we (THE BLIND and I) are now just another project, "interesting" now in SF, rather than the freaks of the hippie band circuit (everyone in Seattle was playing grunge and post punk and every band in Portland was post-punk, noise-crap or old yuppies blues/rock-slock, with the occasional touring hippie jam band, all Dead imatations...)and here we dared mix Pop with Kate and World and Trance!!!(but not the pumping disco canned trance of the rest of the world) and so only EUGENE OREGON made us feel at home, all trance-dancing, painted, semi-naked and smiling...ahhhhhhh ok, homesick. love to all, cyo PS if there are any SFers around, here's some local dates I forgot to tell; CYOAKHA GRACE and THE NEW LAND OF THE BLIND PLAY their Tribal-Trance-Eco-Political-yet-Dreamy-Love-Dance music at; DIVABANDS SHOWCASE March 27th at 19 Broadway in Fairfax 10:15 (a fun night of kicking girrl music in hippietown, come on down) EVERY 2nd and 4th TUESDAY FOR FREE!!!! at a way cool Eastside coffeeshop/intimate/improv concerts, March 26th, April 9th, April 23 @ WORLD GROUNDS 3726 MacArthur Blvd. from 6pm-9pm, mellow and free, this place has great food and art to boot! (510) 482-2933O HARBIN HOT SPRINGS EARTHDAY & 4/20 CELEBRATION DANCE with THE BLIND plus TREESIT HARBIN HOT SPRINGS, Saturday, April 20th A special showing of TREESIT, the amazing documentary on all the tree-sitters and their lives by award-winning film makers HAVC (Headwaters Action Video Collective) with soundtrack music by BLIND, will show in the Harbin theater at 5:30 with a dance following with CYOAKHA GRACE and LAND OF THE BLIND in celebration of all Earth-lovers, tree-huggers, 4/20 heads and trance-dancers and dreamers from 8pm on SOAK in luxury, LEARN about the Lumber Pigs and the warriors fighting them and then DANCE yourself silly and trance your soul into bliss and HUG a tree, take a hike, worship the MOTHER for Earthday up in the heavenly Harbin Mts!!! for info on THE BLIND go to www.landoftheblind.com for info on how to get to HARBIN go to www.harbin.org for info on HAVC and their films go to www.havc.org CYOAKHA is a Butterfly board member of Musicians and Artists for Peace CYOAKHA AND THE BLIND play a mix of World-Folk-Tribal-Trance-Dream-Soundtrack Music with Celtic and Middle-Eastern spice..."POP MUSIC FOR DRUIDS" the Journal CYOAKHA has been a lurking reading demon on the Ecto-list for years, her favorite comments from Ecto-Goddesses are; Jane Siberry, on asked how she liked our version of Calling All Angels "it's, ahhh, very very interesting" Happy Rhodes on my tribal version of her song Feed The Fire "..I say the wierder the better. I LOVE that you followed your own version of that song." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:09:33 -0800 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: hi folks On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 12:08 PM, Michael Mendelson wrote: > Hey, mjm here... long time no subscribe. well, hey, mjm there. welcome back :) seems like there have been a lot of welcomes back, recently... > I have moved to LA with my wife and now I have a > daughter too! congrats! your move to LA gives me the opportunity to mention one of the true wonders: the Museum of Jurassic Technology . it's worth a trip. it may be worth a trip to LA itself. i won't attempt to describe it -- you just have to go and marvel... > Hope you are all good. I have a review for the new > donna adler CD, which I will post shortly. > How can I get it added to the ecto guide to good > music? i believe that simply posting here will suffice, unless Neile indicates otherwise... fth! - -g - -- "i have never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 13:00:19 -0500 From: meredith Subject: oh yeah... ... the Chanting House ROCKED last night. :) They did pretty much everything from _Prophecy_ (including the title track as an encore), plus the "wall of sound" version of "Lowlands" that blows me away every time. Susan was in particularly fine voice too, even though when she spoke (she told some really hilarious stories that I'd never heard before) she sounded like she might have a bit of a cold. But Prime CD's David Seitz mentioned a long time ago that he wished Susan could perform with a cold every night because her voice sounds better that way, and I think he's right. :) We only saw the late show -- anybody catch the early show? Celebrity sighting in the audience: Sloan Wainwright, who said there's no way she would've missed it. :) Speaking of Sloan, CT ectophiles take note: she's playing in Hamden on Tuesday night, at a place called The Space. It's run by Steve Rodgers (of Mighty Purple fame) in an old train station in an industrial park less than 5 minutes from our house. They host an open mic on Tuesdays (and it doesn't suck!), and in the middle of it a "name" performer does a feature set. It's kind of short, but it's a great way to spend a Tuesday evening when _Buffy_ is a repeat anyway. If anyone is interested in going, e-me and I'll send directions and advice on when to get there. (While I forgot to ask her last night, I think she'll only be accompanied by Steven Murphy, since there's no way there's room in there for more of the band. I'm still looking forward to it, though.) ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ======================================= (: New England Patriots - Super Bowl XXXVI CHAMPIONS :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:35:59 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: What she said... At 13:00 -0500 3/23/02, meredith wrote: >... the Chanting House ROCKED last night. :) I'll say. The show last night also had the distinction of being the only one I ever heard where Susan didn't close with "Snakes"--in fact, didn't perform it at all. My hypothesis is that this show was a trial run for the upcoming shows in Ireland, and she doesn't want to be known as the one who brought the snakes back there... As for Carla Lother, I spent the set trying to figure out whether I liked her or not. In general, I hate opening acts, but this one was not unpleasant. Usually I take sides about someone right away, whereas this was a mix of things I liked and things I didn't like. The vocals were nice, especially when echoes of Happy crept in, and if the musical arrangements were standard, I still found them enjoyable. The vocal arrangements sometimes headed in an "easy listening diva" direction, but even then there was enough to them that I wasn't completely turned off. As Meredith mentioned, Carla's stage presence evoked the same feel--to me she sometimes called to mind a housewife who, after the kids leave home, spikes her hair, puts on leather pants, and indulges her inner child. Her lyrics have the same shallow effect (some reviewers call it "life-affirming"); for instance: Inside the box we choose to carry All that we feel, so neatly tied Untie the knot that you cling to so madly A part of you lives, and a part of you dies Captain Courageous Looking for moonbeams Facing his fears for he had to see Out of the blue and into the black With an eye on his soul and the wind at his back For me the high point of her set was "The Song of Wandering Aengus," since the lyrics came from Yeats. Clips are up at . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:16:49 -0800 From: Brian Bloom Subject: Re: Portland, Oregon At 05:03 PM 3/18/02 -0600, you wrote: >OK, where else can I turn to for music help but the ecto list? > >I am relocating from Houston, Texas to Portland, Oregon in less than a >week. Does anyone know of some good used CD shops in Portland? I dropped >into Django's while I was there and it looked promising, but not cheap. Having shopped at Houston's used cd shops I'll likewise vouch for their limited selection. My favorite shop in Portland is Everyday Music. They actually have a couple locations (one in downtown, one on the "eastside" and they tend to get the occasional eclectic title in. (Well, looking at their website, http://www.everydaymusic.com/ they actually have 3 locations...) Music Millennium ( http://www.musicmillennium.com/ ) is another nice shop, also with three locations (one in the hip "23rd Ave" area, plus another one on the eastside. The third is devoted to classical) I'm sure there are lots of other little ones as well, but those are the two major ones that I know of. There are some local music tabloids that have ads for other shops, but I'll confess I haven't explored any of those... I ran a quick search that gave lots of results, although not all of them carry used.. Try: http://portland.citysearch.com/search?type=grid&flavor_id=8&cw1=21&histoindex_left=cw1&histo_name=Music&sort=recommended-desc&start=1&sorted=top_rated-desc&cslink=cs_sort_user (you may have to paste that URL if it wraps) Anyway, hope this helps... BTW - did you ever hit RPMs in Dallas? They have lots of imports and unusal stuff.. On the NE side, toward Garland. Though it's been years since I was there.. No idea if they're still around. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 23:55:49 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: imaginary friend On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Joseph Zitt wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 12:48:42AM -0500, RedWoodenBeads@aol.com wrote: > > > Have any of you ever heard a song with lyrics almost like these? > > > > I shouldn't have been there for you > > It's always here but then it's gone > > I never want to see you again > > My most imaginary friend > > Well, close to three hours of googling and related activities haven't > turned this up. The only lyric that contained "my most imaginary > friend" was the Lemonheads's "If I Could Talk I'd Tell You", but that > doesn't match the other lyrics. Possibilities by Sleater-Kinney and > Chantal Kresomethingiforgotuk turned up red herrings. > > I'll be quite interested to find out what this turns out to be. There is another song running in my head the last days that I can't seem to pin down. It got Imaginary Friend in it, but I don't know if the rest of the lyrics are the same as I haven't had the time to go through my collection very much lately :) What I do know, however, is that it starts off with a simple guitar thingy then then some female voice is added with a rather very catchy tune before more instruments are added. If it isn't the same song then I would be happy if someone would tell me what it is so that I can dive into my collection and listen to it before I go crazy here (as if I ain't so already) :) - -- Yngve n.p. The new Tanya Donelly of course n.r. Researching for an article, trying to decide what novel to read next and updating myself on stylesheets and some other computer stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:25:25 -0600 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: imaginary friend On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:55:49PM +0100, Yngve Hauge wrote: > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Joseph Zitt wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 12:48:42AM -0500, RedWoodenBeads@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Have any of you ever heard a song with lyrics almost like these? > > > > > > I shouldn't have been there for you > > > It's always here but then it's gone > > > I never want to see you again > > > My most imaginary friend > There is another song running in my head the last days that I can't seem > to pin down. It got Imaginary Friend in it, but I don't know if the rest > of the lyrics are the same as I haven't had the time to go through my > collection very much lately :) What I do know, however, is that it starts > off with a simple guitar thingy then then some female voice is added with > a rather very catchy tune before more instruments are added. If it isn't > the same song then I would be happy if someone would tell me what it is > so that I can dive into my collection and listen to it before I go crazy > here (as if I ain't so already) :) Well, I kept running across reference to songs by Chantal Kreviazuk Lyrics are at http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/chantalkreviazuk/imaginaryfriend.html ), Excuse 17, and Sleater-Kinney (the latter two being probably the same song). - -- | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems | | http://www.metatronpress.com/nj/smwb.html | | Latest CDs: Collaborations/ All Souls http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:41:36 -0600 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: Night bugs But, you can still get it if you live in the US, just order it from HMV.com I pre-ordered it and it arrived on Friday (the 22nd) and it cost me $15.97 US total. I haven't had a chance to write a real review yet, and I will but I'll just say for now that I like it a LOT better than I was expecting to. ~Amy Collected Sounds - A Guide to Women in Music http://www.collectedsounds.com > when we last left our heroes, Wantonmoll@aol.com exclaimed: > > >Y'all - Sarah Slean's full-length was released yesterday according to > >hmv.com... Woj respomded: > but only in canada. according to sarah's manager, atlantic records has > decided not to release _night bugs_ in the states after all. fortunately > though, atlantic is not holding the record hostage so sarah will > be free to > shop it around to other labels if she chooses. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #83 *************************