From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #30 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, January 30 2002 Volume 08 : Number 030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Departures ["Adam K." ] Mulholland Drive. ["Adam K." ] Re: Mulholland Drive. dancing around spoilers? [dmw ] new album: christine fellows [meredith ] Re: Departures [Tom Masapollo ] Piano pop alert [Neile Graham ] Re: Piano pop alert [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: new album: christine fellows [RocketsTail@aol.com] Vanessa Carlton/Christine Fellows (was Re: Piano pop alert) [Neile Graham] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:38:28 +0000 From: "Adam K." Subject: Departures Got a standard e-mail from the esteemed Gary and his Artist Shop, which I'm sure some of you out there are also party to, which announced the sad death of Camel founder and keyboardist Peter Bardens, from cancer, a week ago. Even as a progger, I found Camel terribly lightweight (although I did enjoy my copy of "Breathless") but they did what they did well, and Bardens kept the light burning well past the progrock days. I imagine others out there will be bigger fans and have fonder memories, but I thought he's worth a tribute and a moments' silence. adam k. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:23:09 +0000 From: "Adam K." Subject: Mulholland Drive. As I posted before, I think David Lynch is a genius, and Mulholland Drive only confirmed my opinion. They only just released it over here, and it was the first film I saw in the year. It will take some beating, and I think it's his best since "Eraserhead" (mind you, I felt the same about "Lost Highway"). I had my interpretation, which roughly coincides with Vickie's, although I kept thinking (oh, yeah --- SPOILER ALERT!) that the whole thing is, in fact, the dying dream of a failed actress, fact mixed with fantasy, including the discovery of her own body. The Guardian newspaper ran an article entitled "Nice Film -- if you can get it" in which they asked several critics for their interpretations of the film, and they varied quite a bit, but agreed with the "all a dream" bit. No bad thing, even for a cliche, as Lynch has always been able to capture the fractured and fragmented logic of a nightmare better than anyone, keeping it rooted in the human psyche enough to make it...well, make it human, but from the shadowed regions that we don't like to stare into too often, the ones that just bubble up their detritus in dreams. I have to admit, I sat through the first half baffled -- I kept thinking "This is not one of his best", and kept asking myself -- "Why is everyone acting so badly? Why is this whole think so cliched? Why is everyone so awkward? Why does this look and sound like a bad tv film?" and "What the hell is Chad Everett doing in this?" and "Hey, it's that guy from the old A & P ads!" (ask your mothers). I was intrigued by her "audition" (did this really happen? I mean really happen? Did she have an affair with her father's business partner?) and it wasn't until Diane woke up that it all began to make sense. Kind of sense. For the second half, I was so immersed, so involved, so hooked, I was literally on the edge of my seat. When the film ended ("Silencio!" -- how cool is that?) someone burst into applause. I joined them. We were the only ones. Lynch loves making films. He loves the power of films, the power of dreams, the thin, blurred line between them. He loves the challenge it takes and the challenge it makes. He's a genius. adam k. np -- "Cops of the World" by Phil Ochs. Oh, play it from the rooftops and feel it resound in your hearts! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:06:16 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: Mulholland Drive. dancing around spoilers? my instincts are that everyone i've read is almost totally offbase on this movie. all this focus on what 'really' happened and what was 'dream' or 'fantasy' - -- but the *whole thing* is a dream and a fantasy! -- lynch's. and i really don't think it's ever intended to depict (or suggest) an objective 'reality' within the film. i prefer to think of it like one of escher's famous images: if that corner bends *in*, then that line is...waitammint. if that corner bends *out*...out but then *that* line... waitaminnit. you can't make logical sense of the whole image, only of bits of it isolated from one another. but i agree, definitely that this one is better than _lost highway_ even though it revisits a lot of 'highway's thematic territory. best since _eraserhead_? mmm, arguable. i think there are a couple i never bothered to see. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:40:31 -0500 From: meredith Subject: new album: christine fellows Hi, Just wanted to let y'all know that an artist who has been mentioned a bit here before has a new album coming out: Christine Fellows' _The Last One Standing_ will be released on March 5. Fans of Veda Hille and Robin Holcomb should really check Christine out. Her web site, http://www.christinefellows.com has just been completely overhauled and includes demo versions of several tracks that will apear on the CD. (Fans of Ms. Hille may be particularly interested in "Veda's Waltz", which Christine wrote for and performed at Veda's wedding.) Whee! ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:04:02 -0500 From: Tom Masapollo Subject: Re: Departures Hi Adam, I knew about Pete Bardens last week, but didn't post it because I didn't think there would be any interest within the Ecto group, but I guess I was wrong. Pete Bardens (Seen one Earth is my favorite album) was a great musician. Do you remember his MTV video? I was a big CAMEL fan and recently met Kit Watkins in person. (Kit played keyboards and flute after Bardens left the band. Kit was also in Happy the Man) On the same sad note, Florian Fricke, founder and leader of Popol Vuh died Dec. 29th. The innovative German composer who created the mythical Kraut rock band POPOL VUH died at his home following the result of a stroke suffered just before Christmas. He was 57 yrs. old. I thoroughly enjoyed all of the wonderful music and many Soundtracks that Popol Vuh have provided over the past 31 years such as Nosferatu, Das Boat, Aguirre, Fitzcarraldo and other Werner Herzog films. I played my favorite Popol Vuh album "Bruder Des Shattens- Sohne Des Lichts" (Brothers of the Shadows - Son of the Light) right after I heard the news. It brought back many memories. Yes, they both deserve a moment of silence. tom m. At 1/29/02 04:38 AM Tuesday, Adam K. wrote: >Got a standard e-mail from the esteemed Gary and his Artist Shop, which I'm sure some of you out there are also party to, which announced the sad death of Camel founder and keyboardist Peter Bardens, from cancer, a week ago. > >Even as a progger, I found Camel terribly lightweight (although I did enjoy my copy of "Breathless") but they did what they did well, and Bardens kept the light burning well past the progrock days. I imagine others out there will be bigger fans and have fonder memories, but I thought he's worth a tribute and a moments' silence. > >adam k. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:11:08 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Piano pop alert Those who have a greater tolerance of pop than some ectophiles might want to check out Vanessa Carlton (http://www.vanessacarlton.com). We were just skipping through MTV and caught her video for "A Thousand Miles". It's very mainstream pop, catchy, cliched, and a nicely constructed song. She has a really catchy piano riff as the main musical theme of the song. Her voice is sounds really young though not quite babyish. At first I didn't like it at all but got curious and looked her up on the web, and then played the real audio of the song again and like it quite a bit. I suspect I'll get tired of it eventually, but it's so nice to hear something in MTV's mainstream that I like. I mean, you can even vote for her on Total Request Live. I think I like the other brief track offered on her website "Red Ditty" even better than the single. There were a couple of moments in the "A Thousand Miles" song where she reminded me a bit of Christine Fellows. - --Neile - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ............ http://www.ectoguide.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 23:25:14 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Piano pop alert Neile Graham wrote: > Those who have a greater tolerance of pop than some ectophiles might want > to check out Vanessa Carlton (http://www.vanessacarlton.com). We were just > skipping through MTV and caught her video for "A Thousand Miles". yeah, I caught a little snippet of interview with her a few days ago in which they intercut clips of the video. Hadn't gotten around to looking her up yet, but was somewhat impressed compared to most of what seems to be out there on mtv and had intended to do so. thanks for the reminder. Mind you, she's no Vienna Teng or anything... > There were a couple of moments in the "A Thousand Miles" song where she > reminded me a bit of Christine Fellows. Such happy news from meth earlier! (and nice work on the web site, meth...) I was just listening to _Two Little Birds_ a week or two ago and thinking again about how utterly cool it is. Glad to hear the follow-up is almost here! jeff n.p. Launchcast ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 00:03:23 EST From: RocketsTail@aol.com Subject: Re: new album: christine fellows I discovered Christine on MP3.com a few months ago and am sooooo excited to hear she has a new cd coming out, her music leaves me breathless and it always is such a strange journey listening to it. IT's really great. Yay! ~eric "why do I like you? 'Cause I do why do I like you? 'Cause I'd kill to be you" ~throwing muses ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:13:42 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Vanessa Carlton/Christine Fellows (was Re: Piano pop alert) Jeffrey Burka wrote: >yeah, I caught a little snippet of interview with her a few days ago in which >they intercut clips of the video. Hadn't gotten around to looking her up >yet, >but was somewhat impressed compared to most of what seems to be out there on >mtv and had intended to do so. thanks for the reminder. Yeah, I'm a little surprised she's getting this big a push. It's actually kind of cool--it has been ages since I've been interested in much on MTV. I realized what it is that reminds me of Christine Fellows--it's in the voice. Christine Fellows is a much more interesting musician and songwriter, though. >Such happy news from meth earlier! (and nice work on the web site, meth...) Ditto! >I was just listening to _Two Little Birds_ a week or two ago and thinking >again about how utterly cool it is. Glad to hear the follow-up is almost >here! I'm been obsessing on the available samples for the new disc. Would have preordered it, but it's not up on the suggested vendor site. Also, the label site isn't live yet. Christine Fellows is great live, too, if you can catch her on this tour (meaning you're lucky enough to live in Canada). - --Neile - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ............ http://www.ectoguide.org ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #30 *************************