From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #11 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, January 11 2002 Volume 08 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The Unremembered [Jerene Waite ] RE: My first 45's maybe [Phil Hudson ] RE: Firsts...was Tara MacLean ["Amy" ] RE: Firsts.. [Phil Hudson ] chiming in on firsts [damon ] first favorite song [meredith ] Re: first favorite song ["Russ Van Rooy" ] cdbaby loves me [Andrew Fries ] Molly Zenobia [Wantonmoll@aol.com] Re: Molly Zenobia [meredith ] Re: Molly Zenobia [Neal Copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:17:37 -0800 From: Jerene Waite Subject: The Unremembered Sorry, my syntax was uncommunicative. I certainly remembered Pete Seeger. It was the others in the concert (35 years ago!!!) whom I don't remember. It was a lefty folkie concert because I was, in fact, a lefty folkie. I went alone and took buses to get there and back. Jerene (BTW, female) > From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" > Subject: Nicht Nicht und andere stories > > Among those heavily into folk music, Pete Seeger is anything but > unremembered. I strongly suspect that the contributor who called him an > "unremembered lefty folkie" is not, himself, much into folk music in the > present era. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:19:53 -0800 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: My first 45's maybe Tom, Out of nowhere, whilst reading your post, came Kildare's theme, which I have not heard since the TV series played in England in my childhood. Scary! I can remember the whole piece, with the Liberace-pompous chord structure, ad nauseum. Fortunately, I have no remembrance of the theme to Ben Casey, although I do remember the show. I have the strange ability to hear entire pieces of music in my head; which, incidentally, is how I write music. This is a both a blessing and a curse, as anyone will attest who has had the entire themes from the Love Boat, or 'The Jeffersons", or for that matter "My Sharona" by the Knack, stuck in their head for a day or two. (On the positive side, I can keep myself entertained for hours without a CD in sight :) Now I just hope Kildare's not going to get stuck in there and play on endless repeat for a few days, which has been happening to me recently with marching band music Aaarrghh!. Phil NP in my head: Theme from The 'A' Team NR: This email PS: On an historical note, if you include soap operas as drama, ( a stretch, admittedly ) General Hospital was, I'm told, the first medical drama; it started in the 50s. I was spared that one as a kid and have managed to avoid it ever since, although I was almost tempted to check it out a few years back when some character on the show tried to take over the world with a weather-creating machine, presumably cobbled together from old defibrillator parts . - -----Original Message----- From: Tom Masapollo [mailto:tmasapollo@home.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:19 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: My first 45's maybe Hi All......this is fun! Don't remember how old I was, probably a pre-teen but here goes: It was either one of these: "Monster Mash" by Bobby (Boris) Pickett and the Crypt Kickers on Garpax Records or "Theme from Dr. Kildare" by Valjean on piano Yes, I liked instrumental piano music even as a kid. Which probably led me to synthesizers. By the way, the B side of that 45 was........are you ready for this? "Theme from Ben Casey" not a joke either. Ben Casey (Vince Edwards) and Dr.Kildare played by Richard Chamberlain were (I think) the first two medical dramas on TV. They were very popular shows at the time and so the themes to the shows became a 45rpm record. First Concert - Dave Clark Five from England (I was in 8th grade) Second Concert - The Nazz (w/Todd Rundgren) and the Doors - Summer of 1967 at Town Hall, Phila,PA Very interesting concert. The Nazz opened up for the Doors and they did a 13 minute version of Mothers of Invention's "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" Long instrumentals were virtually unheard of back in 1967. Most people were expecting "Hello It's Me". The Doors came on next with Jim Morrison in black leather pants and "Break on Through" was the Doors first hit single at the time. "Light my Fire" was released later that summer. The Doors almost ran out of material, as they only had 1 album in the works. Best All Time Concert - I attended the original Woodstock (Summer of 1969) and still wasn't old enough to drive. tom m. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:05:06 -0600 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: Firsts...was Tara MacLean Yay for Tara, I bet that's a beautiful child. She and Bill are both gorgeous! Dave asked: > Ok, now who wants to admit what their first 8-track was? Mine was "Hotel California" by the Eagles. As for other firsts...it was many moons ago but I'll attempt to recall: Firsts: Favorite song (but I didn't buy the 45 because I was 5 years old ): "Too Late Baby" by Carole King .I'm quite sure I had absolutely NO idea what it was about, it just sounded cool. 45: I believe it was "Have You Never Been Mellow" by Olivia Newton-John but I bought "Lovin' You" by Minnie Ripperton (you know the screeching song that is in the Mastercard football commercial) at the same shopping trip. Interesting side note: I just learned that Maya Rudolph from Saturday Night Live is Minnie Ripperton's daughter. LP:Billy Joel's "The Stranger" still one of my favorties. CD: I'm not sure. I didn't buy CDs until late in life because I had roomates who had all good music. The CD player was also theirs, but I think it might have been Peter Himmelman's "From Strength to Strength". I must menion that I also had Captain & Tennille albums but they weren't my firsts. ~Amy Collected Sounds - A Guide to Woman in Music http://www.collectedsounds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:22:42 -0800 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: Firsts.. Dave asked: > Ok, now who wants to admit what their first 8-track was? Let's go to a really small group here: first 78rpm phonograph record? They were really before even *my* time, but I distinctly recall accidentally breaking my older sister's copy of Heartbreak Hotel, by Elvis Presley. ( her reaction burned itself into both my psyche and my butt) Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:35:25 -0800 From: damon Subject: chiming in on firsts all right, i can no longer resist. i only really got into collecting music in the CD era, so the first piece of music i explicitly set out to own (asked for at christmas; this would have been 1991 or 92 perhaps?) was enya's _watermark_. tangentally ecto, at least. i'd heard `orinoco flow' on the radio and been entranced by it; prior to that all i really knew of `popular' music was the bad '80s rock everyone at school seemed to listen to (you give love... a bad name) and i wasn't having any of that. and though i liked classical, my father already had a huge collection and it had been rather played to death all my life, so it didn't do a lot for me. my tastes have shifted quite far from enya now, but i do still pull her first three albums out now and then - especially the first self-titled one, which i still love... and it *looks* like it should be my first cd, it's so tattered! it makes a great sound test cd as well. before that, all i really remember is a `wizard of oz' vinyl record i had when i was very young, that one day got left out in the sun to my great grief. - -damon, listening to _tundra_ and finding that disappointingly, anneli's voice is the only compelling reason to like it much... a good reason, but probably not enough to put it in the `frequent play' pile. how i wish bel canto had stayed on course after shimmering, warm and bright (which is probably one of my top X favourite albums of all time). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:02:37 -0500 From: meredith Subject: first favorite song Hi, Ooh, now there's another good one ... first favorite song. That would be Gary Wright's "Dream Weaver". I *still* look for it on the radio when I'm trapped in a car with no working CD or tape player. :) ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:47:03 -0800 From: "Russ Van Rooy" Subject: Re: first favorite song For me, I think it was "Happy Just to Dance with you" from Meet the Beatles or Hard Days Night, can't remember, one of those two. - -Russ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "meredith" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: first favorite song > Hi, > > Ooh, now there's another good one ... first favorite song. > > That would be Gary Wright's "Dream Weaver". I *still* look for it on the > radio when I'm trapped in a car with no working CD or tape player. :) > > ======================================= > Meredith Tarr > New Haven, CT USA > mailto:meth@smoe.org > http://www.smoe.org/meth > "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi > ======================================= > Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series > http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:59:55 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: cdbaby loves me Cdbaby loves me. I know, because they told me so in their emails. And I love them back - in our dealings I've found them consistently quick, responsive and dependable. And as a bonus, their emails are actually fun. When they shipped my order the confirmation they sent along went like this: ... We were VERY excited to hear from you again. Remember - your picture has been on on our wall as "Customer of the Year" ever since your last order at CD Baby. Everyone in town whispered that you had come back. All the little kids in the neighborhood came running to our office, faces pressed up to the glass. Our team of 50 employees not only inspected all your CDs before mailing, but sealed each one with a kiss. One employee got a little TOO excited and wouldn't stop kissing your CDs! We wiped off the lipstick as best we could. All the kids screamed and danced as we marched your package to the post office, and sent them on the private CD Baby jet to you today, Wednesday, January 2nd. Now you understand - these CDs are coming to you with SO much love. We love music. We love CDs. We love you. ... Cutesy I know, but I had a laugh all the same and when was the last time you had a chuckle reading business correspondence? My order was really catching up on releases I meant to get for a while but kept putting off until there were enough to make up a package. I took a chance and got two Molly Zenobia albums on the strength of Ecto recommendations, Vienna Teng's record because I liked the samples on her website, and Hannah Fury's EP. This one might be more for the completists, because at two previously released tracks, one new composition and three covers it might not represent particularly great value. But it comes in individually numbered nice cardboard sleeve, and might be worth the price just to hear Hannah's take on "The winner takes it all", by this most misunderstood of all Goth bands, Abba. And Molly Zenobia's "wind chains" came with a leaf inside - I don't think it's real - plastic? straw? Actually I'm not sure what it's made of but it is quite pretty nonetheless... yes, it's the little things that make my day. .. what, the music? I don't know yet, I just put the disk on... - ---------------------------------------------------------------- "All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two..." - - Michael Robertson, founder of Lindows - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:52:54 EST From: Wantonmoll@aol.com Subject: Molly Zenobia I had her release "Skin" 2 summers ago & was quite digusted with it. It's not enough that she has some piano chops & tries to yell. Paula Cole is already guilty of that. Her songs lack lyrical oopmh as far as I could tell... for all of her talk of bullets & *gag* overalls, it seemed to me that she's just a pretentious little white girl whose rich parents pay for her records & whose little insignia was dreamed up by her graphic designer cousin. "We can make you a star, Molly!" "But Mommy, I want to be a star YESTERDAY! *stamps foot*" She needs to get a bit more true grit before she'll be worth much. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:13:42 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Molly Zenobia Hi, John opined: >I had her release "Skin" 2 summers ago & was quite digusted with it. It's >not enough that she has some piano chops & tries to yell. Paula Cole is >already guilty of that. Her songs lack lyrical oopmh as far as I could >tell... for all of her talk of bullets & *gag* overalls, it seemed to me that >she's just a pretentious little white girl whose rich parents pay for her >records & whose little insignia was dreamed up by her graphic designer >cousin. "We can make you a star, Molly!" "But Mommy, I want to be a star >YESTERDAY! *stamps foot*" She needs to get a bit more true grit before >she'll be worth much. Ouch! What did Molly ever do to you?! Chuck and I had Molly play at ectofest last summer. I had the pleasure of meeting her mom (one of the sweetest people ever) that day, and I can tell you with 100% surety that that's not the case at all. Molly's not an imperious, impetuous child. Yeah, she's young (still in college), and yeah, she's got some maturing to do. But she has honest-to-god talent, and she's got a great career ahead of her. Not everyone exhibits Kate Bush or Happy Rhodes-like genius as a teenager. But that doesn't stop musicians with real talent from maturing into great artists later on. (Veda Hille, for example, didn't write her first song until she was 21.) ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:15:38 -0700 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Molly Zenobia Hi John, While I completely disagree with you, I am in the process of working on Molly's ectoguide page. As the guide is supposed to reflect the opinions of ectophiles, it's certainly reasonable to have negative comments to balance the positive. Are you interested in having your comments put in the guide? Or would you be interested in writing a negative comment that might be a little less, uh, harsh? :) No pressure. No obligations. Just curious. (Actually, as an editor, I would probably select your comments up to the ellipsis.) neal At 9:52 PM -0500 1/10/02, Wantonmoll@aol.com wrote: >I had her release "Skin" 2 summers ago & was quite digusted with it. It's >not enough that she has some piano chops & tries to yell. Paula Cole is >already guilty of that. Her songs lack lyrical oopmh as far as I could >tell... for all of her talk of bullets & *gag* overalls, it seemed to me that >she's just a pretentious little white girl whose rich parents pay for her >records & whose little insignia was dreamed up by her graphic designer >cousin. "We can make you a star, Molly!" "But Mommy, I want to be a star >YESTERDAY! *stamps foot*" She needs to get a bit more true grit before >she'll be worth much. > >John ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #11 *************************