From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V8 #7 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, January 7 2002 Volume 08 : Number 007 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Tapping the Vein [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: First concert [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: first concert [betcey ventrella ] Re: ecto-digest V8 #6 [betcey ventrella ] Re: Firsts [Mike Connell ] First Records/Concerts [Gary Davis ] Re: first concerts, Clare Grogan [dave ] Re: Clare Grogan ["Michael Colford" ] firsts ["Lenore" ] Re: first concert [Neal Copperman ] Re: voices on the verge [meredith ] Re: voices on the verge [Neal Copperman ] Elizay Gilkyson in NW [Neal Copperman ] Rebecca Timmons Newsletter (January 2002) [Neile Graham ] Re: anticipated 2002 albums [Neile Graham ] Re: Firsts [Nadyne Mielke ] Re[3]: Should auld acquaintance be forgot... [raven@igc.org] MicroCrap [kerry white ] RE: my first record, album, concert [CDavis ] Re: MicroCrap [meredith ] Re: Neile's top of 2001 list ["Michael Pearce" ] Trina Hamlin Live At The House O'Muzak [meredith ] [none] ["Lyle Howard" ] Worst by default only and other stories ["Mitchell A. Pravatiner" ] Re: Firsts [and favorites] ["Xenu's Sister" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 01:56:02 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: Tapping the Vein Sweetness! Another Tapping the Vein fan! And there could be more...just check them out at mp3.com... :) Got any favorite songs? I love too many. Black Dove In a message dated 01/04/2002 10:56:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org writes: > I'm waiting for Balligomingo's Beneath the Surface , > Tapping the Vein's The Damage and hoping for something from My Brilliant > Beast > in the next few years.... > > Kristen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 02:03:54 -0600 (CST) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: First concert Hi, Hey! I saw Led Zepplin, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Jethro Tull and The Moody Blues at the war memorial in SYracuse, in the early '70s. I liked them! I, too, am at one half century. I think my first 45 was, "Let There Be Drums" by Sandy Nelson. My first favorite 45 was, "The Old Payola Roll Blues" by Stan Freeburg. First LP (I Think) was, "Id Music" by Third Rail. My first CD was, "Sensual World" by KaTe. The LP for this was the one KB I didn't buy on vinyl. KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 01:12:48 -0700 From: betcey ventrella Subject: Re: first concert <> ooooooooooh. I'd love to see Harry Belafonte. He's #1 on my "List o' Legends" that I'd like to see live, not that I ever go out to concerts anymore. Ella Fitzgerald was my #1 for years - I was fortunate enough to see her live twice before she dies. Seems like the few times I've de-lurked to post on this list, my responses have all been decidedly Non-Ecto. So . . . I'm trying to guess which song would've been the favorite of a child young enough to still need naps - "Mama Look a Boo-Boo?" ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ live to bead . . . bead to live ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Betcey from Beyond http://www.beyondbeadery.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 01:14:51 -0700 From: betcey ventrella Subject: Re: ecto-digest V8 #6 <> hey, what year was that? I once drove close to 1000 miles to see Yes at Madison Square Garden! I think in 1981? '82? (that was during my "missing years") ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ live to bead . . . bead to live ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Betcey from Beyond http://www.beyondbeadery.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 03:18:45 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: Firsts At 09:16 PM 1/5/02, Nadyne Mielke wrote: >First concert: *whimper* I don't generally admit this in mixed >company. It was Milli Vanilli, {snip} LOL! I can see why you generally keep this a secret. :-) OK, what was your first concert with LIVE music? :-) Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 10:07:08 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: First Records/Concerts What a great thread! My first album was not a music album. It was Bill Cosby's 'To Russell, My Brother Whom I Slept With.' I don't remember how old I was. But it was the funniest thing in the world! My next albums didn't come till some time later, but I think the next two were The Beatles/Magical Mystery Tour and Yes/Fragile. My first concert was David Cassidy. My Dad took me and my sister and a bunch of her friends to it. My first concert on my own might have been either Chicago or Seals & Crofts. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 10:57:11 -0500 From: dave Subject: Re: first concerts, Clare Grogan Well, technically I guess it would be a couple of local cover bands playing in an old movie theater about 25 years ago (actually the same place where I've recently seen Grey Eye Glances, Mary Fahl and November Project). One band did stuff like Queen's 'Tie Your Mother Down' and the other was a KISS cover band in full costume. It was a bit loud, I remember trying to use a pay phone to call for a ride home afterwards and not being able to hear if someone was actually on the other end.. I was standing right under a fire siren when it went off, and could barely hear it.. probably part of why I have tinitus now.. My first real concert with original bands was at Philly's JFK Stadium. The headliners were Peter Frampton and Lynyrd Skynyrd, this would have been right after 'Frampton Comes Alive' and 'One More From the Road' came out. Opening acts were Dicky Betts and Great Southern (Allman Bros. guitarist solo project) and the J. Geils Band (pre-Centerfold.. I believe their big song at the time was House Party) Funny, there were about 90,000 people there.. nowadays the biggest shows I see have maybe a couple of hundred.. Hmm.. as I'm writing this, I'm looking up someone I saw on an episode of 'Father Ted' last night, an anti-church rock singer comes to Craggy Island looking for a house, and Father Dougal ends up giving her theirs. The girl playing the singer looked familiar, so I got her name from the credits.. turns out she was the singer for Altered Images (I remember me and a coworker going nuts for months trying to remember who sang Happy Birthday) and the original Kochanski on Red Dwarf... I never would've connected the two.. wonder what's happening with the Red Dwarf movie anyway... np: wav's of Father Jack saying things like 'That would be an ecumenical matter!' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:21:40 -0500 From: "Michael Colford" Subject: Re: Clare Grogan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" > Hmm.. as I'm writing this, I'm looking up someone I saw on an episode of > 'Father Ted' last night, an anti-church rock singer comes to Craggy > Island looking for a house, and Father Dougal ends up giving her theirs. > The girl playing the singer looked familiar, so I got her name from the > credits.. turns out she was the singer for Altered Images (I remember me > and a coworker going nuts for months trying to remember who sang Happy > Birthday) and the original Kochanski on Red Dwarf... I never would've > connected the two.. Clare's done other stuff on the big screen, most notably a fairly substantial part in "Gregory's Girl." Plus, she's still singing a bit as well. She lends her vocals to one of the amazing tracks on the 6th's last album, "Hyacinths & Thistles." I always enjoyed Altered Images... even after their "Happy Birthday/I Could Be Happy" heyday. I saw them in concert once and it was a really great show. Michael C. n.p. Emily Skinner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:36:58 -0500 From: "Lenore" Subject: firsts de-lurking for this fun thread, been on this list quietly for a long time, hi, how are ya from toronto to everyone! 1st 45 - paul revere and the raiders, him or me 1st lp - moody blues, question of balance 1st small concert - blue oyster cult, massey hall, toronto 1st biggie - jethro tull, maple leaf gardens (and all other concerts since are on my website, i saved my ticket stubs!) http://www.lenore.com/genre.html best "new" find in 2001 - jimmy lafave best concert 2001 - guy clark, hugh's room toronto most recent concert - mellencamp, toronto ACC centre most recent purchase - pink floyd, echoes cheers and happy new year. lenore info@lenore.com http://www.lenore.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:35:18 -0700 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: first concert At 1:12 AM -0700 1/6/02, betcey ventrella wrote: ><Harry Belafonte (whch I was thrilled to see and then fell asleep >before he played my favorite song cause I refused to take a nap)>> >So . . . I'm trying to guess which song would've been the favorite of a >child young enough to still need naps - "Mama Look a Boo-Boo?" Actually, my favorite was Hole in the Bucket, which is also how I found Spearhead. I was in a CD store in CA and they were playing a hip-hop track based on that song and I was sold. BTW, my folks saw Harry Belafonte again about 5 years ago. They said his voice is not what it used to be, but that he was an exceptional showman. neal np: Baby The Stars Shine Bright - Everything But The Girl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:20:42 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: voices on the verge Hi, Black Dove noted: >Hey, I just screened a Voices on the Verge album at my radio station. Good >stuff. I t was the live album, I'm not certain if they have others....I admit >my ignorance of this band. Just that their album was enjoyable, and now sits >on the shelf at my station. :) Cool! Voices on the Verge is a collaboration thing much like the "Cry Cry Cry" project of a few years ago. It features four women who are singer/songwriters with their own careers in various stages of getting going: Beth Amsel, Jess Klein, Erin McKeown, and Rose Polenzani. Of the four, Erin is by far my favorite and the one I think has the most talent and potential ... though Jess is probably the best known at the moment. Beth is quite deserving of wider attention. I'm not a Rose Polenzani fan, though in this group setting I think she fits in well. My copy of the CD (which is their only release, probably to remain so) just arrived from Amazon yesterday, along with Kris Delmhorst's _Five Stories_. I've only listened to it once, in the background while entertaining a friend, so I can't really say much about it save that it sounded really pleasant. I'll be giving it a more detailed listen this week. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:39:46 -0700 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: voices on the verge At 12:20 PM -0500 1/6/02, meredith wrote: >Voices on the Verge is a collaboration thing much like the "Cry Cry >Cry" project of a few years ago. It features four women who are >singer/songwriters with their own careers in various stages of >getting going: Beth Amsel, Jess Klein, Erin McKeown, and Rose >Polenzani. A recent local review said that Erin McKeown (whose solo album the reviewer was already enamoured with) was a joy, Beth and Jess were fine examples of the standard female singer/songwriter, and he didn't like Rose at all. His conclusion was that it just made him want another Erin McKeown album. neal ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:45:11 -0700 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Elizay Gilkyson in NW We are really thrilled that Eliza Gilkyson is going to be doing a house concert with us in late March. Her latest album, Hard Times in Babylon, is really incredible. I saw her perform a lot of those songs last year without having heard any of her music. I had the sense she was a vaguely new agey folk singer (and her press pack says she's been saddled with that image based on one album she put out). But these songs were not even remotely new agey, dealing very directly with the issues of being middle-aged and an artist. Very striking music. I noticed she's got a couple of dates coming up soon in the US northwest. Thurs., Jan. 10 - Tractor Tavern, 5213 Ballard Ave. NW, Seattle, WA. Ph: 206-789-4250. Fri., Jan. 11 - Traditions, 300 5th Ave. SW, Olympia, WA. Ph: 360-705-2819. neal np: refuge - a benefit for the people of kosova (I think I'm going to have to break down and buy my own copy of this.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:00:42 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Rebecca Timmons Newsletter (January 2002) For those interested. - --Neile >From: ComingOfTheDream@aol.com >Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:36:22 EST >Subject: Rebecca Timmons Newsletter (January 2002) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: undisclosed-recipients:; >X-Renamed-Executables: Not checked >X-Disabled-Scripts: Not checked > >Happy new year to all! > >Just a note to notify everyone that the web site >http://members.aol.com/comingofthedream/index.html is no more. As of the 1st >of January 2002 the new web site address is: > >www.rebeccatimmons.net > >Please update your bookmarks. In addition, a new e-mail address will >accompany the site: inquiries@rebeccatimmons.net. Thanks. > >Thanks > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ............ http://www.ectoguide.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:49:22 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: anticipated 2002 albums Angel's Shadow wrote: >... hoping for something from My Brilliant Beast >in the next few years.... Ha! Someone else who keeps hope alive for something new from this band. I think they're worse than Kate, except at least she doesn't keep saying "next year" and then having nothing happen. But at least they have some mp3s around of the forthcoming album...Hmmm. - --Neile - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ............ http://www.ectoguide.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 14:09:08 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Firsts At 03:18 06-01-02 -0500, Mike Connell wrote: >At 09:16 PM 1/5/02, Nadyne Mielke wrote: >>First concert: *whimper* I don't generally admit this in mixed >>company. It was Milli Vanilli, >{snip} >LOL! I can see why you generally keep this a secret. :-) >OK, what was your first concert with LIVE music? :-) Tori Amos, 04 July 1994, State Theatre, Detroit. :) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:35:49 -0800 From: raven@igc.org Subject: Re[3]: Should auld acquaintance be forgot... At 18:24 01/05/2002 (-0500), I wrote: >Best live show of 2001: too many to pick just one, but these are >some of my favs (all shows are SF Bay Area)... Chris Webster at >Palms Playhouse, Patrice Pike at Fuel *and* Tongue and Groove, >Melissa Ferrick at Last Day Saloon, Bonfire Madigan at The Attic, >Velvet Janes at Hotel Utah *and* Dolores Cafe, Pamela Means at >the Kuumbwa, EctoFestWest at the Kuumbwa, Indigo Girls at Mountain >Winery, Erin McKeown at Palms Playhouse, Gillian Welch at the Kuumbwa, >Catie Curtis at Foley's Cellar, Laura Love (duo) at Espresso Garden, >Edie Carey at Bazaar Cafe. ACK! They say memory is the first to go ... how could I have forgotten to mention Susan Werner's wonderful show at the Kuumbwa... *and* I finally go to meet Sherlyn Koo at this show! :) John - waving toward OZ - -- RAVEN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:14:43 -0600 (CST) From: kerry white Subject: MicroCrap Hi, (heavy breathing) I just barely survived a massive POP-UP mugging. My first experience with this crap. I was looking for South Park Episode info when I was hit from behind. Every :30 they came, repeating over and over, all with "close" options that were LIEs of the first order. Back at home I was covered with the little nipping icons of the un-closed pieces of shit. MicroSoft's greatest enemy thought this up and made people think it was MS and that is why 99& of the world hates them. It is the only answer as no-one in their right mind would put their own name on it. KrW "You fill me with inertia!" George Spigot ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 20:34:27 -0800 From: CDavis Subject: RE: my first record, album, concert Hey! Something I can put my 2 pennies into. (belated I know) Now that all the oldtimers have surfaced, I don't feel so lonely out here. I saved up my 25 cent allowance for weeks to buy my first 45, a copy of Jerry Lee Lewis' "Great Balls of Fire" on the Sun label (I still have it). First album was either Chuck Berry's "Twist" or one of several Beach Boys' albums. My first _stereo_ album was the Ventures' "Walk Don't Run". (Anyone remember monophonic?) First concert was the Temptations in 1966. (I'd just gotten my drivers license and the parents weren't to excited about me driving into the city) Most memorable concert for the time....The Who opened their "Tommy" tour at the Grande Ballroom in Detroit. Looking through what I purchased this past year I'm surprised that I bought so little _new_ music. Over the Rhine...Films for Radio... excellent album and my favorite of '01 Cowboy Junkies...Open... Harder and more angry sounding IMO than earlier stuff. My favorite is still Lay It Down. Cara Dillon...Cara Dillon...An early member of Equation. Nice English trad-folk album, but her voice isn't quite up to the material. Heather Nova...South...Urk. The record company has it's claws in deep. Garbage... BeautifulGarbage...My guilty pleasure, I really like this album and Shirley's voice isn't so buried in the mix as in the past. Equation...The Dark Ages EP...five studio recorded songs that they only did live before. Pretty decent. Sam Phillips...Fan Dance...I like the first four tunes but then she kind of loses me. oh well. Kate Rusby...Little Lights...a very nice album, maybe her best to date. Mary Fahl...Lenses of Contact...four song EP, did this come out in '01? All it did was make me miss October Project. Most anticipated albums in '02: Tanya Donelly Beth Nilson Chapman......delayed from last november. Aimee Mann....from her newsletter 11-20-01: >Aimee Mann and band will be performing a few west coast shows to close out >the year. For all of you who are looking for a show a little closer to >home, we are planning more extensive touring starting in the late spring >of 2002. This will coincide with the release of Aimee's new solo record >which is being recorded now. Biggest disappointment of '01: Merry Amsterberg never toured anywhere but the coasts. Hey Merry, how about Ann Arbor next time! TTFN: Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 20:34:31 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: MicroCrap Hi, Kerry reported: > Hi, (heavy breathing) I just barely survived a massive POP-UP mugging. Congratulations ... you managed to avoid it longer than pretty much everyone else with an Internet connection. :) Allow me to recommend a program that has made my online life much less stressful: AdSubtract. The free version only blocks cookies, JavaScript and banner ads, but the version you pay (a very reasonable price) for also blocks pop-ups (and those evil pop-under X10 ads). You can customize it so that certain sites you visit frequently will allow cookies and such through, so you won't end up blocking stuff you actually need on those sites. It's the best thing ever invented for Websurfing. It's at http://www.adsubtract.com. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: 6 Jan 2002 12:47:20 -0800 From: "Michael Pearce" Subject: Re: Neile's top of 2001 list At 9:26 PM -0500 1/4/02, Neile Graham wrote: >Splashdown - Blueshift [CDR--never officially released] > >A version of this is floating around the net as it was made available to >people on their mailing list and some advance promos were sent out before >it was cancelled. I have no idea if this album would have been a hit big >enough to please Java/Capitol, but it certainly is a wonderful, powerful >album and deserves to have seen the light of day. All the songs from the >brilliant _Redshift ep_ are here and many, many other great tracks that are >just as strong. It's a lively kind of edgy, melodic rock that just sounds >wonderful to me. The songwriting is so full of hooks it's scary and I adore >Melissa Kaplan's voice here and the way the songs are put together. I've >listened to this steadily for months and months and just can't get tired of >it. This is the best album I've ever heard that was never released. It's a >horrible shame. Any chance of duping me off a copy? You've piqued my interest. Or maybe ripping it to MP3 and posting it to Usenet? After all, when a record company abandons a project like that, their interests are no longer of my concern, no matter what the law 'droids have to say. As to the artist losing money, I would happily send her $2 which is probably a lot more than she would have gotten from the record co. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 21:16:17 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Trina Hamlin Live At The House O'Muzak Hi, This one should be of particular interest to folks here ... :) Live at the House O'Muzak Presents: TRINA HAMLIN with EMILY CURTIS Sunday, January 20th at 4 pm Trina's name has been mentioned in these pages a lot over the past few years. She was a huge hit at ectofest last year, and was also voted one of the Falcon Ridge Folk Festival's "Most Wanted" for 2002. Come see why! She plays a blazing harmonica, is an amazing guitar and piano player, and has an incredible, strong voice. She's also hilariously funny and a generally all-around cool person. This is going to be a lot of fun. I must admit I don't know much about Emily Curtis' music, but she and Trina will be touring around the Northeast at the end of this month, which speaks well of her. I'm looking forward to hearing some new music from her. Hope to see a lot of you here... ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 03:39:50 From: "Lyle Howard" Subject: [none] Hello, Boys and Girls, I had a slightly surreal lunch today. I was sitting in the corner of my neighborhood Whataburger, munching politely when one of the workers (maybe a burger flipper) started reciting very loudly the words to Warren Zevons Thompson the Headless Gunner. I had to look up from my food to see who in the world would know the words to that song. It was a twentyish guy. He recited a couple of lines and announced that it was by Warren Zevon, the guy who had written The Werewolves of London and then one of the cashiers (female) started singing and howling (not too loudly) the words to the chorus of Werewolves. The guy then took up reciting Thompson again. He recited the lines the way Faye Dunaway recited Bonnie Parkers poetry in _Bonnie and Clyde_, emphasizing the rhyme at the end of the line. The recitation died down for a while, possibly to allow the preparation of an order, and then continued in spurts. I dont know if he ever finished the song, since I cant remember how it ends. Since my powers of observation had suddenly been called up, I surveyed the room, stopping on a couple there. The woman seemed to be in her sixties, had on a red, felt cowboy hat, a buckskin jacket with fringe, and bright red cowboy boots. Her partner had on a leather cap (an Andy Capp cap), boots, and a western-cut jacket. A very stylish couple. I wondered if they had just gotten out of church and, if so, which church in town encouraged cowpoke finery. Could this event have been a precognitive vision of Madonna in 2022? To the topic at hand: First 45s - Statler Brothers Counting Flowers on the Wall b/w May the Bird of Paradise Fly Up Your Nose. Also, Ray Stevens Freddie Feelgood and His Funky Little Five Piece Band b/w Theres One in Every Crowd. Clearly, I was a bon vivant marked for high living even at the age of eleven. First albums  Beatles _Magical Mystery Tour_ and _Dave Brubeck Quartet Live at Carnegie Hall_. So, I fall into the Beatles camp, with a side tent of 5/4 jazz for varietys sake. This was circa 1968 and the money used was wrongfully attained through ecoterrorism. That is, pouring diesel fuel on the roots of mesquite trees during the hot Oklahoma summer (at the behest of one of my farming cousins) and in the process ruining the groundwater. I made my penance by doing contract work for the EPA and the Texas environmental department for nine years. First live bands  Some crazy garage band playing at the Christmas party thrown by Halliburton in downtown Ft. Worth in 65 or 66. I wouldnt be surprised to find someone like T-Bone Burnett was a member of the band. Second band, a cover band made up of the cool guys in my Pueblo, Colorado, junior high in 1967. I remember several Monkees tunes. I knew the band was cool because they wore beatle boots, turtlenecks, and hair that at least touched their ears and swept down dangerously close to their eyebrows. First concert  Hard to say. The concept of going to hear live music was foreign to my worldview. Enjoying oneself was not a high priority. But that changed my first two years in college: Seals and Croft, Mitchell-Ruff Duo, Lighthouse, Friends of Distinction. Dont know which one was first. These concerts were all performed in the chapel at Oklahoma Baptist University. Oh, yes, I also saw the Poppy Family at an auto show in Oklahoma City (Hey, the band was free. I just stood there. It wasnt like I paid to see them.). Concerts for the next couple of years after consisted of gonzo, redneck rock (Jerry Jeff, Willie, Michael Murphy, B.W. Stevenson, Steve Fromholz, Scaggs Family, etc. With a little Todd Rundgren thrown in for good measure.) Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Bye, Lyle n.r. David Lindsey _Mercy_. n.p. _Lost Soul, Vol 1_ . An Epic/CBS record with obscure rhythm and blues songs from the seventies. Most famous artists: Z.Z. Hill and the Staple Singers. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:54:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Subject: Worst by default only and other stories I don't know that Swing Out Sister did any albums subsequent to _Kaleidoscope World_. But the latter does, I think, have some good stuff on it, even if the album isn't quite as good overall as _It's Better to Travel_. So _Kaleidoscope_ qualifies as their worst solely by being second in a field of two. Reminds me of the apocryphal Soviet propagandist who commented on the loss of his land's entry in a two-man race to the American entrant, that the Soviet competitor finished in second place, whereas the Yank had finished second from the bottom :-). For the longest time after reading the latest digest to come in, which expanded the thread on "firsts" to concerts, etc, I couldn't for the life of me remember what the first live performance I attended was. This is not the same as not remembering my first live performance, because I should have remembered the performance itself very well, just not the time ordering. But after thinking awhile, I am now pretty sure it was a performance by the Nields at a high school outside (I think) Trenton (or maybe it was New Brunswick), that woj and Meredith took me to in early 1996, when I was visiting the tri-state area. I also remember well a number of performances between 1997 and 1999 at the Around the Coyote art fair and the Uncommon Ground coffeehouse, and some other places, mostly by artists who were not headliners, or at least were not yet; and--of course--Happy's only Chicago gig to date, at a place on Lincoln Avenue whose name escapes me. Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 23:01:06 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Worst by default only and other stories Hi, Mitch recalled: >For the longest time after reading the latest digest to come in, which >expanded the thread on "firsts" to concerts, etc, I couldn't for the life >of me remember what the first live performance I attended was. This is >not the same as not remembering my first live performance, because I >should have remembered the performance itself very well, just not the time >ordering. But after thinking awhile, I am now pretty sure it was a >performance by the Nields at a high school outside (I think) Trenton (or >maybe it was New Brunswick), that woj and Meredith took me to in early >1996, when I was visiting the tri-state area. Yes, it was The Nields at the auditorium of the Grace Norton Rodgers School in Hightstown, NJ, as part of the Outta Sights And Sounds series (a.k.a. "the Folk Nazi's Place" ;). I remember being thunderstruck when you revealed you'd never been to a concert before, so it made an impression. :) ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:12:10 -0600 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Firsts [and favorites] At 12:56 PM 1/5/2002 -0500, glenn wrote (besides a really interesting list of things): >First movie soundtrack: _Star Wars_, and I was crushed to discover that >"soundtrack" meant only the music, as opposed to the actual audio track >of the whole movie. Hah! I was one of those dweebs who saw the movie over and over again when it was first released (I quit counting at 75, and that was in first run!) and this made me remember something else I did. At the time, I worked in a factory that allowed people to listen to radios as long as they used head or earphones. I took an old tape cassette recorder (one of those old back and silver rectangle-shaped jobbies with the piano keys) to the theater with me and recorded the whole movie. I listened to that thing over and over again. You can believe that I knew the dialogue and every single sound by heart, which is why I noticed immediately when a later release of the film changed some of the sound effects and voices (no one ever believes me!) I doubt I'll ever "hear" that original version again, because the tapes were lost ages ago. Firsts? Hmmm, another oldster (45) weighing in... First album bought: Meet The Beatles. My dad had this great idea that we as a family were going to get "musical." The idea was that once a month, we'd go to the record store and each of us would pick out something. My mom bought an Andy Williams record, my brother bought The Man From U.N.C.L.E soundtrack, I bought the Beatles, and my dad bought a Lefty Frizzell album, which I ended up listening to more than he did. Dad's great idea was soon forgotten, because that's the only time I remember us going to the record store. First 45: Don't remember, but it was probably by the Beatles. First concert: Alice Cooper's "Billion Dollar Babies" tour, in Lawrence, KS. I loved it! It was also the first time I ever did acid, which of course, is why I'm so warped now :-). First movie seen in the theater: It was either Mary Poppins or Santa Claus Conquers The Martians (then again, this could be why). First Grown-Up movies seen in the theater: In Cold Blood (with my parents) and a double feature of Bonnie and Clyde / Bullitt (on my own). First movie seen at a Drive-In: Don't know, since we were raised at the Drive-In, but the first ones I remember are Hell's Angels On Wheels and Born Losers. Dad loved those biker flicks. He didn't like Easy Rider though. My brother and I loved it!! First time that music thunderstruck my soul: Seeing Genesis perform "Watcher Of The Skies" and "The Musical Box" on The Midnight Special. That was when I realized that there was something beyond the Top 40 out there *for me*. Everything since, mainly discovering Kate Bush and Happy, not to mention meeting Chris in 1982, came as a DIRECT result of those amazing minutes spent watching TV. My whole life would be radically different (and, btw, Ecto would not exist), if I hadn't watched that program. All hail The Midnight Special! :-) First CD: Kate Bush "The Kick Inside" long before we actually had a CD player. The CD itself was mislabeled and just said "Kick Inside." First pre-recorded video: Music - Kate Bush's Live At The Hammersmith Odeon. Film - Francis Ford Coppola's One From The Heart. First laserdisc: Music - Kate Bush's The Whole Story. Film - Wim Wender's Until The End Of The World. First DVD: Film - L.A. Confidential (also before we had a DVD player). Music - Still no Kate on DVD (DAMN!). I think it was the Sarah McLachlan video collection. While I'm here: Favorite album from 2001: Vespertine by Bjork (we bought the DVD-Audio version which is oh-my-GOD-I'm-going-to-die-of-happiness AMAZING!!) Favorite movie from 2001: Moulin Rouge! (followed very closely by Lord Of The Rings, which I've seen 3 times so far, and plan to see several more times before it leaves the theaters). Other favorites from the year include The Man Who Wasn't There, Mulholland Drive, The Others, Waking Life, Amelie, The Royal Tenenbaums, Monsters, Inc., AI and Ghost World. (I've yet to see Memento, Donnie Darko, Sexy Beast, Lantana, In The Bedroom, Gosford Park and some others that I know/have heard are very good). Vickie ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V8 #7 ************************