From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #362 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, December 20 2001 Volume 07 : Number 362 Today's Subjects: ----------------- sophie [anna maria "stjärnell" ] re: music as x-mas gifts [Dennis G Parslow ] Re: music as x-mas gifts ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] RE: not in thrall to LotR ["Shelly DeForte" ] Re: music as x-mas gifts [Yngve Hauge ] New Thomas Dolby! [Jeff Wasilko ] Bored of the Rings, Christmas Music ["Lyle Howard" ] Holiday Music ["Lyle Howard" ] Re: Bored of the Rings, Christmas Music [Joseph Zitt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 04:40:43 -0800 (PST) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: sophie Hi. Enjoyed the interview with Kate in the new Q. hope she does make a new cd someday. Nice pics of Polly Jean too. Sophie Zelmani has a new cd in january called Sing and Dance. Should be good. Anna Maria np-Sam Brown-April Moon Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 02:17:11 -0500 From: Dennis G Parslow Subject: re: music as x-mas gifts > Obligatory music-related tidbit: I bought my husband the Dead Can > Dance box set. Anyone else buy folks music for holiday gifts? (yes I > did steal this question from the AlternoUnderground list) I bought two friends the latest Cowboy Junkies release (kind of a tradition for me to them). Also, I picked up The new Enya for my wife and finally broke down and bought the Peanuts Christmas Album (after watching the tv special, I had it running on continous play in the background while I played computer games, just for the music. I got my own hint). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:51:25 -0500 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: music as x-mas gifts Dennis G Parslow sez: > Also, I picked up The new Enya for my wife am I the only one confused by this whole "new Enya" thing? The album has been out for 13 months now. Is there some movie or tv show or commercial that made "Only Time" become such a big, sudden hit, or what? My dad called a month or so ago to yell at me for not telling him there was a new Enya album -- he'd heard about it on NPR, I guess. I was really confused because I didn't think there *was* a new album...there had just been one, a year earlier! Hunh. The amazon.com editorial review refers to _Watermark_ as Enya's "debut album." Guess that other debut album didn't really count. As for me, well, my folks declared this year that the adults weren't supposed to give each other hanukah presents, but rather to focus on the little ones, so I didn't give nearly as much music as I usually do. Still, when I ordered the new Johnny and Susan disc last month, I ordered one for them as well (my folks would have been really pissed if I hadn't). Speaking of Johnny and Susan, I went to the Millenium Stage show last week. It was fabulous, as always. (and yes, the real video stream is archived at www.kennedy-center.org). The _Peter and Wendy_ set was very nice, though they skipped "Light That Beauteous Flame", which they played the last time I saw a P&W set. Also a nice mix of stuff from the new album, including a few of Johnny's spoke pieces, and of course much bickering and joking amongst the players. And in keeping with a tradition, when I went to say hi to Susan after the set, she once again greeted me as Neal. I pointed out that, no, Neal was still in New Mexico...and which point she remembered making the same mistake last year. jeff n.p. _Peace in Our Time_, Big Country ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:38:28 -0800 From: "Shelly DeForte" Subject: RE: not in thrall to LotR > Well, I don't be any means think that reading LotR is any > prerequisite to desperately wanting to see the movie. Everyone I > know who has read the book, has read it within the last year > because they knew the movie was coming out. I really don't > believe anyone should want to see a movie because they loved the > book. You're always bound to come out disappointed. Instead I > intend to give myself over to Peter Jacksons vision, *inspired* > by the book. > > - Shelly > > > > > And me. I'm 33, so again, not sure what generation we're > > generalizing about here, but I attempted to begin the first book > > of Lord of the Rings, about 3 years ago, and got bored/annoyed > > and stopped. The bits I liked best were the Tom Bombadil bits, and n > > ow that I know he won't be in the movie, I'm even less enthused. > > We never go to first-run movies anyway. They turn the sound up so > > darn loud these days! I'll just wait for the video. > > > > Haven't read any Harry Potter either. > > > > Scary thing is, I _am_ a fantasy fan, just not high fantasy. I > > like vampire novels, and the Charles de Lint sort of fantasies > > set in the "real world." > > > > Obligatory music-related tidbit: I bought my husband the Dead Can > > Dance box set. Anyone else buy folks music for holiday gifts? > > (yes I did steal this question from the AlternoUnderground list) > > > > Kira > > http://www.ailurodrome.com/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" > > http://www.doteasy.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:41:31 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: music as x-mas gifts On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > am I the only one confused by this whole "new Enya" thing? The album > has been out for 13 months now. Is there some movie or tv show or > commercial that made "Only Time" become such a big, sudden hit, or what? > My dad called a month or so ago to yell at me for not telling him > there was a new Enya album -- he'd heard about it on NPR, I guess. I > was really confused because I didn't think there *was* a new > album...there had just been one, a year earlier! just "one" word - LOTR :) - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:58:46 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: New Thomas Dolby! - ----- Forwarded message from jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com ----- To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: Holy-shit batman! From: jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:09:51 +0200 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org I thought something must be afoot when I saw that there was 22K today! Robin wrote: Our Christmas surprise from Thomas... he has forwarded this press release to me to give to Alloy in advance of the world knowing about it..! happy holidays! :) xxxx Robin T THOMAS DOLBY BREAKS EIGHT YEAR MUSICAL SILENCE Well well well, there's a surprise and a half. I too ordered unautographed copies at first... Doh! For those of you that wish for the autographed and numbered version please go here: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dolbyautograph Thank you Thomas. Thank you very much. It's been a while. I can't use RealPlayer through the firewall here so I'll have to be patient and wait for the CD's. Now there is something to look forward to. The day just got brighter. Yeah! Cheers, Jon Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:09:48 From: "Lyle Howard" Subject: Bored of the Rings, Christmas Music Hi, Boys and Girls, I don't know what the mythical generation is that should have read the _Hobbit_ and the Ring trilogy. Since I read the National Lampoon parody titled _Bored of the Rings_ around 1972, I think the quasi-hippies of the late sixties and early seventies might be the generation. I was ruined by Bored. When I think of hobbits, I can only think of them sitting around a picnic table and eating until they barf. That and the names of the main characters being either obscene or bad puns. I have a vague memory of having read _The Hobbit_ sometime in the last couple of decades. If I get points for hanging with Tolkien-heads, then my association with a fellow who named his bassett hound Bombadil and had license plates that said "Niggle" should stand me in good stead with the score keepers. (And some guy here in Denton-- a philosophy prof or some such-- has self-produced a series of cds containing songs from the Middle Earth. I see the cds in the bins of the local record stores and cringe. It's probably great music. I have a closed mind. If anyone is remotely interested I will hunt down specifics. I think he has a web site.) I suppose I have more rapport with the other members of the Inklings. C.S. Lewis's books (non-fiction)are good attempts at explaining why we are in such misery here. The Narnia books are fun. And I keep meaning to read the _Out of the Silent Planet_ trilogy. The most satisfying writer of the Inklings (to my mind) is Charles Williams. He wrote with a bit of grit, used modern settings, and presented the supernatural as a component of life on earth. And who could not like Dorothy Sayers's Lord Whimsey series? Am I missing an inkling? Probably. G.K. Chesterton is also fun, though not an Inkling. The Father Brown short stories and _The Man Who Was Thursday_ are very good. Fantasy series as a whole fill me with dread. In the bookstore I see ten or twelve novels by one writer with the same world or characters cutting across all the books and my gut freezes and I think about struggling through all those books. My response to this sight is to consider re-reading Philip K. Dick or Gene Wolfe's torturer series, or, for that matter, wading into Wolfe's newer series. I'm sure the current batch of fantasy writers writes beautifully, but I wish they would quit trying to recapture the magic of a book by making everything else a sequel. (Except for Gene Wolfe and Fritz Leiber) I think I must have had some bad experiences (mercifully forgotten)in the past with Robert E. Howard and Edgar Rice Burroughs. No one is talking about Christmas music, so I will graciously give my list of favorite albums. I am as WASPY as one can get, so my preferences are in a white, anglo-saxon, protestant bag. The Roches - _We Three Kings_. Very cool. Dig those Yonkers accents on two or three cuts. Great harmonies. Vince Guaraldi Trio - _A Charlie Brown Christmas_. Need I say more? Beautiful jazz. Do people in other countries get to see the Peanuts Specials? Brave Combo - _It's Christmas, Man!_ Carols as polkas, sambas, cha chas, horas (1), and cumbias. Three original songs, two of which deserve to be on the list of traditional carols/songs. _A Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols_. I have the King's College version. Bruce Cockburn - _Christmas_ Good music from a dedicated humanist who makes any music he does his own. "Iesus Ahatonia" is a wonderful Huron (American Indian for those who only know the plains Indians) Carol. Alfred Deller and the Deller Consort - _The Holly and the Ivy_. Deller was and is a great counter tenor. The songs are ancient English carols. Sorry, no Chipmunks recommendations. I need to drag out my Carpenter's Christmas record (not cd) and listen to it. It's hard to beat Karen's warm alto. You can't go wrong with Bach's Passions or his Christmas Oratorios. Oh, and Handel's _Messiah_. Or just go to a presentation of the _Messiah_ where the audience drags along their music and provides the choral music. No one will give you dirty looks, I promise. Any favorite Passover, Winter Solstice, Ramadan, Kwanzaa, or other albums out there? My Christmas collection is small, so I'm sure I missed all your favorite albums. A bien tot, Lyle n.p. The Roches. _We Three Kings_. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:27:51 EST From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Sarah McLachlan Eeeek!!! I can't wait to hear this song!!! I wonder how long the radio date will be before they release the single...I love working at a radio station!!! Yeah, so the manager said no hype, but I'm already hyped! And it's such a long wait! Well, I hope her mother gets better...but it really sounds very serious...and I hope everything goes well with the baby. I can't wait to hear this new album! I knew we were destined to get one sometime soon! Black Dove n.p. - Tapping the Vein - The Damage ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:32:25 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: Bored of the Rings, Christmas Music > ...the National Lampoon parody titled _Bored of the Rings_... I feel obliged to point out that _Bored of the Rings_ was done by the Harvard Lampoon, not the National Lampoon. If I remember my time-line correctly, _Bored of the Rings_ was done in 1969, and the National Lampoon was started (by some of the same Harvard Lampoon alumni) in 1970. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:06:45 From: "Lyle Howard" Subject: Re: Bored of the Rings, Christmas Music It's been a long time since I had that book in my hand. They used to play National Lampoon records on the radio stations around here. I can't remember if that was pre or post the beginning of Saturday Night Live. I do remember the gaping holes in my pathetic little life known as Saturday nights that were filled by SNL in 1974 (?) or 1975 (?). One of my happier memories of 1975 or so was a visit to my college by one of the editors of National Lampoon. He read a piece equating mastication with masterbation. Now I don't get the two confused. Lyle >From: "glenn mcdonald" >To: "Lyle Howard" , >Subject: Re: Bored of the Rings, Christmas Music >Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:32:25 -0500 > > > ...the National Lampoon parody titled _Bored of the Rings_... > >I feel obliged to point out that _Bored of the Rings_ was done by the >Harvard Lampoon, not the National Lampoon. If I remember my time-line >correctly, _Bored of the Rings_ was done in 1969, and the National Lampoon >was started (by some of the same Harvard Lampoon alumni) in 1970. > >glenn > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:14:42 +0100 From: "Holly Hill" Subject: re: music as x-mas gifts I bought my mom and her husband RhodeSongs and The Keep! I had played RhodeSongs for them on my last visit, and they were hooked! I'm also sending them the link to the Auntie Social web site, so they can buy their own Happy CD's! On 19 Dec 2001 at 2:17, Dennis G Parslow wrote: > > Obligatory music-related tidbit: I bought my husband the Dead Can > > Dance box set. Anyone else buy folks music for holiday gifts? (yes I > > did steal this question from the AlternoUnderground list) And I didn't know there was a DcD box set available. What's included? Holly hkhill@iol.it "There's a statistical theory that if you gave a million monkeys typewriters and set them to work, they'd eventually come up with the complete works of Shakespeare. Thanks to the Internet, we now know this isn't true." -- Ian Hart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:40:56 From: "Lyle Howard" Subject: Holiday Music Hello, I told you I am a WASP. It is very evident in that I substituted Passover for Hannakuh in a previous message. I don't have a clue. If I hear the radio promo soon, I will alert you to the KERA Christmas Blockbuster that Glenn Mitchell does every year. You can listen to it on the net (eight plus hours of Christmas and holiday music, very little of it cheezy). It is a good place to hear hundreds of off the beaten path Christmas songs. I don't think it is solely Christian in focus. Glenn always plays "A Child's Christmas in Wales" by Dylan Thomas. Also other spoken word pieces. I don't know if other public radio stations do this sort of thing, but it's not Christmas around here without this program. Lyle n.p. Jack Jones _Christmas_. Listening to a swinging (in a sixties sort of way) version of "Little Altar Boy." Now listening to a wimpy version of "O Happy Day." _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:21:18 -0600 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Bored of the Rings, Christmas Music On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:09:48PM +0000, Lyle Howard wrote: > I don't know what the mythical generation is that should have read the > _Hobbit_ and the Ring trilogy. Since I read the National Lampoon parody > titled _Bored of the Rings_ around 1972, I think the quasi-hippies of the > late sixties and early seventies might be the generation. I was ruined by > Bored. When I think of hobbits, I can only think of them sitting around a > picnic table and eating until they barf. That and the names of the main > characters being either obscene or bad puns. Heh, yeah. I saw the movie today and went nuts trying to remember the name of one creature until they mentioned it, since I could only recall it as the Ballhog. > I have a vague memory of having read _The Hobbit_ sometime in the last > couple of decades. If I get points for hanging with Tolkien-heads, then my > association with a fellow who named his bassett hound Bombadil and had > license plates that said "Niggle" should stand me in good stead with the > score keepers. (And some guy here in Denton-- a philosophy prof or some > such-- has self-produced a series of cds containing songs from the Middle > Earth. I see the cds in the bins of the local record stores and cringe. > It's probably great music. I have a closed mind. If anyone is remotely > interested I will hunt down specifics. I think he has a web site.) There was an excellent song cycle on Tolkein text by Donald (?) Swann of Flanders and Swann, published as "The Road Goes Ever On" and recorded on the Caedmon LP "Poems and Songs of Middle Earth". I used to make people at Yeshiva U. nervous by wandering the halls singing "Namarie" in Elvish. > I think I must have had some bad experiences (mercifully forgotten)in the > past with Robert E. Howard and Edgar Rice Burroughs. A group of us used to have a running gag about Frank Herbert's inevitable Beach Blanket Dune, Gidget Goes Dune, and Dune-A-Go-Go. n.p.:Fraquency Curtain: Live in Austin 08/01/01 - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CDs: Collaborations/ All Souls http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:50:51 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: music as x-mas gifts Hi, This year, I'm giving copies of Susan McKeown and Johnny Cunningham's _A Winter Talisman_ to my mom and sister. I'm also giving my sister a CD called _Ambient Egypt_ that I got from the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I usually get my Dad a CD too, but we're getting him a DVD player, so I'll probably end up getting him some DVDs instead. Not sure which ones, though - -- I'll have to see what the store has left this weekend. (I'm a bit late getting everything done this year. :}) ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #362 **************************