From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #283 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, October 4 2001 Volume 07 : Number 283 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Taliban petition [adamk@zoom.co.uk] afghani petition [Christian Reiter ] Guilty pleasures [Todd Tyrtle ] Dar Williams in Minneapolis - Tickets! ["Amy" ] Afghanistan documentaries [JoAnn Whetsell ] What good is a freaking petition anyway? ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: Guilty pleasures [Neile Graham ] Katell Keineg Tourdates in NY [strange little woj ] Re: Guilty pleasures [dmw ] Re: Guilty pleasures [Todd Tyrtle ] Re: Guilty pleasures [Todd Tyrtle ] Re: Guilty pleasures ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: Guilty pleasures [Todd Tyrtle ] Re: Guilty pleasures [nadyne@mindspring.com] Re: Guilty pleasures [kitty kat ] Re: Guilty pleasures [dmw ] Taliban petition [Steve VanDevender ] All pleasure, no guilt :) [Phil Hudson ] Re: Guilty pleasures [Yngve Hauge ] Re: Guilty pleasures ["Kira" ] more non-ecto pleasures: ["Kira" ] Best albums of 2001? ["Moseley_Patrick" ] RE: Guilty pleasures [Phil Hudson ] Re: Best albums of 2001? ["glenn mcdonald" ] RE: Guilty pleasures ["Kira" ] Re: Best albums of 2001? [Stuart Myerburg ] Re: Best albums of 2001? ["Kira" ] Re: Best albums of 2001? [dmw ] Re: Guilty pleasures [Michele Wellck ] RE: Best albums of 2001? ["Harmony Ridge Music" ] Re: Guilty pleasures [JoAnn Whetsell ] good 2001 albums [JoAnn Whetsell ] RE: Best albums of 2001? [JoAnn Whetsell ] Re: Best albums of 2001? [meredith ] Re: Guilty pleasures [meredith ] Re: Best albums of 2001? [Jason Gordon ] RE: Best albums of 2001? ["Harmony Ridge Music" ] Re: Best albums of 2001? [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 10:47:53 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: Taliban petition I don't want to sound any more cynical than I already do, but this is highly suspect -- one of these came around to my place of work about two years ago, and then again about a year ago. It is, I suspect, a glorified chain e-mail, but one that exploits people's feelings about a very real, very important issue to achieve its ends. If anyone can prove its veracity, then I'll quite happily eat my words (hey, I'm getting used to the taste) and sign it, but in the meantime, I find it a tasteless use of a sensitive and tragic subject for a juvenile game, and no better than spam. adam k. Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:04:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Reiter Subject: afghani petition hi, regarding the petition, everyone should check these links regarding any petitions that should be sent to the adress sarabande@brandeis.edu. this is the adress where the petition is supposed to be sent after reaching 600 signatures. http://www.brandeis.edu/unet/newschainletter.html http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/petition/afghani.htm Any mail going to that adress will be deleted and has been since 1999. initially, all mail going to this adress bounced with an autoreply, see below; by now its totally dead i believe. christian - ----------- (afghani petition autoreply 1999) Please read this message carefully, especially the next two sentences. Do not reply to this email. Do not forward this email to anyone else. Anyone who needs a copy, already has one. Do not make things worse. Do not "help" by forwarding this message to everyone who has corresponded with you on this subject. Due to a flood of hundreds of thousands of messages in response to an unauthorized chain letter, all mail to is being deleted unread. It will never be a valid email address again. If you have a personal message for the previous owner of that address, you will need to find some means other than email to communicate. was not an organization, but a person who was totally unprepared for the inevitable consequences of telling thousands of people to tell fifty of their friends to tell fifty of their friends to send her email. It is our sincere hope that the hundreds of thousands of people who continue to attempt to reply will find a more productive outlet for their concerns. There are several excellent organizations and individuals doing real work on the issues raised. Some of them were mentioned in sarabande's letter. None of them authorized her actions. We suggest that you contact them through non-virtual channels to help. They all have web sites with information and contact points. Unlike sarabande, they can channel your energy in useful directions. Do not let this incident discourage you. Please do not forward unverified chain letters, no matter how compelling they might seem. Propagating chain letters is specifically prohibited by the terms of service of most Internet service providers; you could lose your account. Any replies to this message will be deleted unread. The issue is closed. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 05:01:56 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: more new Hi.. More new stuff. Anita Lane sex o'clock Lane is still best known as Nick cave's ex which is too bad. Her previous cd was a big fave of mine. On the new one her girly voice and ominous lyrics are balanced out by Mick Harvey's solid grooves. Nice cover of Bella Ciao too. Anna Maria NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:25:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Tyrtle Subject: Guilty pleasures Hi there, I know a bunch of you already as I have been corresponding for some time with y'all and I've lurked off and on here for some time now but I just got curious (or maybe I just wanted to confess in company). Surely everyone here has some unpredictably non-ecto music guilty pleasures. Me? Mine are all over the map: Steely Dan, B-52s, Early to mid 80's heavy metal (early Van Halen, Judas Priest, AC/DC), art of noise, yello. Most of mine are not only not shared by my wife, but are actually *banned* from her earshot. And I will "out" Sage (my wife who many of you also know) by saying that we *both* love Frank Sinatra (and Skanatra by association). Sage is a bit more over the top in this respect, I think nine times out of ten I find myself starting the car after she drives it to find that the radio is blaring Wink Martindale hosting the "Music of your life" radio station which seems to be filled sith nothing but old songs by Peggy Lee, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Tom Jones, and the like. It's a little surreal. Oh, and another (former - we haven't done this really since we left Bethlehem 3 years ago) was the Delilah show (www.radiodelilah.com). I told you they were guilty pleasures. Do you all still respect us? - ------------------------------------------------ Todd Tyrtle Just Off the Square www.yurtsweetyurt.com todd@yurtsweetyurt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:03:35 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: Dar Williams in Minneapolis - Tickets! Hi Ecto-folk, I have two extra tickets for Dar's show in Minneapolis on October 14th. I bought them for my friends who now are not able to go with us. They are good seats, like 7th row or something (I don't have them with me right now). If you're interested I'll email you with exacts. I'll sell them at face value. Please let me know via email (ecalos@earthlink.net) if you are interested. ~Amy www.collectedsounds.com A Guide to Women in Music ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 10:22:49 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: Afghanistan documentaries I just saw these links on the art deadlines list newsletter. They might be useful for people interested in documentaries on Afghanistan. The main website http://www.der.org (Documentary Educational Resources) also has films, etc on other topics. Worth a look. - --JoAnn From the der website: "All of us at DER are deeply upset about the recent terrorist attacks. We hope that your family and friends are safe. In light of the attacks we understand that there is a growing need for related information. We are reintroducing the Faces of Change: Afghanistan documentary film series. The films in the series examine five different aspects of the people of Afghanistan concerning: political / religious beliefs, women, rural economics, education and socialization, and rural society." Documentary Films About Afghanistan: AMIR: An Afghan Refugee Musician's Life in Peshawar, Pakistan http://www.der.org/films/amir.html An Afghan Village http://www.der.org/films/afghan-village.html Naim And Jabar http://www.der.org/films/naim-and-jabar.html Wheat Cycle http://www.der.org/films/wheat-cycle.html Afghan Women http://www.der.org/films/afghan-women.html Afghan Nomads: The Maldar http://www.der.org/films/afghan-nomads.html Documentary Educational Resources Films http://www.der.org/films/film_title_index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:05:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: What good is a freaking petition anyway? Even if it were real, which, of course, it isn't. The copy I got went into the Trash before I even found out that it was bogus. What, is the *TALIBAN* supposed to care what a bunch of cushy Western yuppers think about how they treat women? Sheesh, I wish people would think before they start circulating more useless spam around. If information about a cause needs to be distributed, just provide a URL, don't fill up my mailbox then lay a guilt trip on me ("signatures will be lost if this isn't passed on or sent back") because I treat it like the SPAM it is. Sorry I'm so cranky, I realize people mean well, but you'd think, in 2001, everybody would know NOT TO DISTRIBUTE SPAM, especially to strangers, no matter how good the cause may be. URLS exist for a *reason*! Vickie NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:08:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Some worthy URLS regarding Afghan women HERE are some good URLS about this subject: http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/10/02/fatima/index.html http://rawa.fancymarketing.net/index.html http://afghanwomensmission.org/index.shtml http://www.helpafghanwomen.com/ (except that these people have a petition too and tell you to send it to your friends. Argh) Vickie NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:52:33 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: Dar Williams in Minneapolis - Tickets! Hi there, Yes, sorry, that I am replying to my own message. (and so sorry for the cross post if you are also on the Dar List) But I wanted to amend my offer...I have only ONE ticket now to get rid of. Here are the details: Dar Williams with guest Catie Curtis October 14, 7:30 pm - Fitzgerald Theatre in St. Paul, MN seat avail is Section R (main floor, right side of stage) row G seat 4. The face value is $26.50 (plus TM fees which I would not charge for) Please let me know if interested! ~Amy www.collectedsounds.com A Guide to Women in Music > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Amy > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:04 AM > To: ecto > Subject: Dar Williams in Minneapolis - Tickets! > > > Hi Ecto-folk, > > I have two extra tickets for Dar's show in Minneapolis on October 14th. > I bought them for my friends who now are not able to go with us. > They are good seats, like 7th row or something (I don't have them with me > right now). If you're interested I'll email you with exacts. I'll > sell them > at face value. > > Please let me know via email (ecalos@earthlink.net) if you are interested. > > ~Amy > www.collectedsounds.com > A Guide to Women in Music ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:10:45 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Todd Tyrtle wrote: >I told you they were guilty pleasures. Do you all still respect us? Hi, Todd-- Welcome back out of lurkdom! We all have our guilty pleasures. Mine is Larry Norman's funny/political Xtian rock. Hey, I even made an Ectophiles' Guide page for him! Isn't that evil? Oh, and the T'Pau song, "Heart and Soul". I'm sure I could think of some others, but I'm late leaving for work. Cheers, all-- - --Neile n.p. Cane, _Unable_ (Thanks Yngve, it's great!) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ............ http://www.ectoguide.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:11:09 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Katell Keineg Tourdates in NY >Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 20:08:58 -0400 >Subject: Katell Keineg Tourdates in NY >From: sam >To: Katell_List > >Dear Katell Keineg fans, > >Katell will be playing a few dates in and around NYC in the next couple of >weeks: > >Saturday, October 13, 2001 >Croton-on-Hudson, NY >Collabergh Lodge >www.mtairymusic.org > >Tuesday, October 16, 2001 >New York, NY >Mercury Lounge >www.mercuryloungenyc.com > >Saturday, October 20 >New York, NY >D.U.M.B.O Arts Festival >www.dumboartscenter.org/festival > >If you'd like to be removed from this mailing list, just let me know. > >all the best, >Sam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:20:23 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Todd Tyrtle wrote: > everyone here has some unpredictably non-ecto music guilty pleasures. > > Me? Mine are all over the map: > Steely Dan, B-52s, Early to mid 80's heavy metal (early Van Halen, Judas > Priest, AC/DC), art of noise, yello. Most of mine are not only not shared > by my wife, but are actually *banned* from her earshot. > > And I will "out" Sage (my wife who many of you also know) by saying that > we *both* love Frank Sinatra (and Skanatra by association). Sage is a bit sorry, but every time this comes up, i get a little more weirded out by the use of the term "guilty pleasure" -- especially with references to steely dan, b-52s, art of noise and frank sinatra, all of whom i thought garnered far too much critical acclaim to be very 'guilty' ... but the whole notion that it's "ok" or "cool" to like some music, but not some other music, or that one is only supposed to like what is "generally" acknowledged to be "good" sits increasingly uncomfortably with me. despite mark kozelek's (sp?) recent effort, i think i'm going to go ahead with my plan to record an ep with de-metalized/de-punkified versions of ac-dc's "you shook me all night long," twisted sister's "we're not going to take it," quiet riot's "slick black cadillac" and the dead kennedy's "kill the poor" at some point. - -- d., guilt-, but not necessarily irony-, free np amy ray _stag_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:29:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Tyrtle Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Hi Neile, On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Neile Graham wrote: > We all have our guilty pleasures. Mine is Larry Norman's funny/political > Xtian rock. Hey, I even made an Ectophiles' Guide page for him! Isn't that > evil? Oh Gad, Sage and I also have a soft spot for Take 6, and our Cousin's Christian music (www.shepherdsong.org). Who'd think, that knew us, that we'd own and enjoy an album called "Jazz Praise". Though we're far from Christians, ourselves. It was funny - last week we were listening to Take 6 (good music for cleaning house) and there was a point where a friend came by and Sage ran to the back room to shut it off lest rumours start! ;^) > > Oh, and the T'Pau song, "Heart and Soul". I liked that one too! I'd forgotten about that :^) - -Todd - ------------------------------------------------ Todd Tyrtle Just Off the Square www.yurtsweetyurt.com todd@yurtsweetyurt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:31:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Tyrtle Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Hello, On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, dmw wrote: > sorry, but every time this comes up, i get a little more weirded out by > the use of the term "guilty pleasure" -- especially with references to > steely dan, b-52s, art of noise and frank sinatra, all of whom i thought > garnered far too much critical acclaim to be very 'guilty' Oops - sorry to have brought around a topic again for everyone :^). And bad choice of words on my part. I guess I mean more like music that people would consider out of character for us. I don't really take it that seriously. - -Todd - ------------------------------------------------ Todd Tyrtle Just Off the Square www.yurtsweetyurt.com todd@yurtsweetyurt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:46:57 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures > Oh, and the T'Pau song, "Heart and Soul". I agree with dmw that "guilty pleasure" is a pretty patronizing and useless concept to begin with, but I can't pass up the opportunity to defend the marvelous T'Pau, one of my favorite big-production pop/rock bands. I see copies of their first and third albums lying around in used bins with $2.99 tags on them all the time, and if you don't mind grand, shiny coatings on your pop songs (ala YKTR, Scarlet, Roxette, Anggun), it might be well worth a few dollars to give T'Pau a chance. My review of the 1998 T'Pau album _Red_, with a brief career-overview, is at http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0202.html#entry1. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:44:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Tyrtle Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Hello! On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, glenn mcdonald wrote: > > Oh, and the T'Pau song, "Heart and Soul". > > I agree with dmw that "guilty pleasure" is a pretty patronizing and useless > concept to begin with, but I can't pass up the opportunity to defend the Right - my mistake. :^) > marvelous T'Pau, one of my favorite big-production pop/rock bands. I see > copies of their first and third albums lying around in used bins with $2.99 > tags on them all the time, and if you don't mind grand, shiny coatings on > your pop songs (ala YKTR, Scarlet, Roxette, Anggun), it might be well worth Ooh - I forgot about Roxette - another good one. I didn't realized that T'Pau had more than one album, either. Interesting :) - -Todd - ------------------------------------------------ Todd Tyrtle Just Off the Square www.yurtsweetyurt.com todd@yurtsweetyurt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:55:04 -0400 From: nadyne@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Todd Tyrtle wrote: [snip] > I told you they were guilty pleasures. Do you all still respect us? The only guilty pleasure you listed that was questionable was listening to the Delilah radio programme. She's just -scary-. ;) My own guilty pleasures don't tend towards artists, but rather towards specific songs. My current guilty pleasure song is "Follow Me" by Uncle Kracker. *sigh* I'm so ashamed. ;) /nm np: "Small Swift Birds", _Open_, Cowboy Junkies. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:57:52 -0700 (PDT) From: kitty kat Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 nadyne@mindspring.com wrote: > My own guilty pleasures don't tend towards artists, but rather > towards specific songs. My current guilty pleasure song is "Follow > Me" by Uncle Kracker. My big problem is that I always turn the name "Uncle Kracker" into my own personal version of a South Park song: "Shut your Kracker face, Uncle Kracker..." ;) - -K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:09:00 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Todd Tyrtle wrote: > Oops - sorry to have brought around a topic again for everyone :^). oh, that's the nature of e-mail lists! and there's usually enough new blood in the group that discussions are often interesting/illuminating even when similar discussions have been had before. > And bad choice of words on my part. I guess I mean more like music that > people would consider out of character for us. I don't really take it > that seriously. true enough, and i hope i didn't sound mean-spirited or particularly peevish about my issue with the 'guilt' word -- i certainly didn't mean to. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:27:02 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Taliban petition adamk@zoom.co.uk writes: > I don't want to sound any more cynical than I already do, > but this is highly suspect -- one of these came around to > my place of work about two years ago, and then again about > a year ago. It is, I suspect, a glorified chain e-mail, but > one that exploits people's feelings about a very real, very > important issue to achieve its ends. > > If anyone can prove its veracity, then I'll quite happily > eat my words (hey, I'm getting used to the taste) and sign > it, but in the meantime, I find it a tasteless use of a > sensitive and tragic subject for a juvenile game, and no > better than spam. I'm afraid I became highly suspicious when I saw the email address "sarabande@brandeis.edu" at the end. I have vague memories of dealing with a previous chain letter incident using that same email address. It occurred to me that the all-knowing, all-seeing Google might help refresh my memory, and here is the top item for a search on "sarabande@brandeis.edu": http://www.brandeis.edu/unet/newschainletter.html Chain Letter Announcement (January 10, 1999) An unauthorized mass mailing recently went out to most UNet users soliciting email to sarabande@brandeis.edu. Please do not respond in any way; the owner of that address no longer wants the mail. Due to unmanageable volume, the sarabande address has not been receiving email since January 3rd 1999, and will never be a valid email address again. postmaster@brandeis.edu will answer no more questions about this issue. Please do not initiate or propagate chain letters. For some examples of past chain letters, see http://www.nbi.dk/~dickow/stop-chain-letter.txt http://athos.rutgers.edu/~watrous/pbs-funding-chain-letter-petition.html http://www.wish.org/home/frame_chainletters.htm http://www.cancer.org/chain.html Some information on effective (non-email-abuse-based) activism regarding the issues discussed in this two-year-old chain letter is available on the Feminist Majority and kabultec sites. Sorry, Cy, I think you've been had. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:58:50 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: All pleasure, no guilt :) Rednexx: "Cotton Eye Joe" a great version of a classic goat-roper song. The Big F: ( Think Zep meets Aerosmith) "Kill the Cowboy" " Here's to the Good Times" AC/DC: "It's a long way to the top" Oingo Boingo: "Who do you want to be today" Bonzo Dog Band: " Jazz, delicious hot, disgusting cold" All thoroughly non-Ecto :) P ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:24:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Neile Graham wrote: > > n.p. Cane, _Unable_ (Thanks Yngve, it's great!) > And sadly enough another example of a record company not knowing what to do - in this case the norwegian division of Warner. I was really looking forward to this band's second album, but the label people did spend so much time wondering what to do that the band quit and went back to their old jobs. - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:55:52 -0700 From: "Kira" Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Neile Graham wrote: >Oh, and the T'Pau song, "Heart and Soul". Hm.. that is a pleasure of mine, but not a guilty one. I don't really feel guilty about liking music, be it Antheil's "Ballet Mecanique" (an all-percussion classical piece that bombed in the 1930s) or Nana Mouskouri's French songs or Was (Not Was)'s irreverent rap-tinged funk (or whatever it is). Maybe I feel a little tiny bit guilty for liking Jane Birkin and Serge Gainsbourg's "Je t'aime... moi non plus" album, including the song about the orangutan (Jane, are you a plushy???). Kira (not a plushy) http://www.ailurodrome.com/ __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:24:16 -0700 From: "Kira" Subject: more non-ecto pleasures: I forgot... various things by Led Zeppelin, Guns 'n' Roses, The Doors, and Ozzy Osbourne, among others. Guns 'n' Roses is the one I have a hard time explaining to my husband. Kira http://www.ailurodrome.com/ __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:24:53 -0400 From: "Moseley_Patrick" Subject: Best albums of 2001? Hi all, If I were to say to any of you, "With the exception of Bjork's Vespertine, I haven't heard any good new music this year," which album would you tell me I needed to go listen to immediately? Thanks, Patrick (craving some good new music as I impatiently await the Left Hand Demos) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:30:19 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: Guilty pleasures The satirical British magazine Private Eye referred to these two as " Jane Firkin and Serge Forward" when this record originally hit in the (70s?). I've never heard the album, so what is a 'plushy' ( hope I don't regret asking.....!) P Maybe I feel a little tiny bit guilty for liking Jane Birkin and Serge Gainsbourg's "Je t'aime... moi non plus" album, including the song about the orangutan (Jane, are you a plushy???). Kira (not a plushy) http://www.ailurodrome.com/ __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:58:30 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: Best albums of 2001? Some of my 2001 highlights with at least some potential Ecto appeal: Laurie Anderson: Life on a String Curve: Gift Melissa Ferrick: Skinnier, Faster, Live at the BPC Emm Gryner: Girl Versions Low: Things We Lost In the Fire Mandalay: Solace Rachael Sage: Painting of a Painting Laura Watling: Early Morning Walk Dar Williams: Out There Live Lucinda Williams: Essence glenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:05:18 -0700 From: "Kira" Subject: RE: Guilty pleasures Phil Hudson asks: >I've never heard the album, so what is a 'plushy' ( hope I don't regret >asking.....!) One of these days I'll get the hang of replying to the list instead of just to the person who wrote the message. As I told Phil (and this is too much information), a plushy is someone whose sexual gratification depends upon plush toys (stuffed animals). Jane Birkin was singing rather breathily about her toy orangutan in that song. I learned about plushies from Getting It magazine, back when that was still online. Kira who will admit to being twisted, but not in that direction http://www.ailurodrome.com/ __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 16:16:50 -0400 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Best albums of 2001? Here are some of my favorites thus far, with the Divine Comedy still my number one of the year. Some of them are a bit more Ecto-friendly than others... Regeneration - The Divine Comedy Pleased to Meet You - James 100 Broken Windows - Idlewild 604 - Ladytron Paper Scissors Stone - Catatonia Songs in Red and Gray - Suzanne Vega And, from what I've heard of it (it's not released until next week), Lamb's new album, _What Sound_, will almost definitely be in my best-of for the year. Stuart - -- ______________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart ______________________________________________ Moseley_Patrick wrote: > > Hi all, > > If I were to say to any of you, "With the exception of Bjork's > Vespertine, I haven't heard any good new music this year," which album > would you tell me I needed to go listen to immediately? > > Thanks, > Patrick (craving some good new music as I impatiently await the Left > Hand Demos) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:32:46 -0700 From: "Kira" Subject: Re: Best albums of 2001? >Moseley_Patrick wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> If I were to say to any of you, "With the exception of Bjork's >> Vespertine, I haven't heard any good new music this year," which album >> would you tell me I needed to go listen to immediately? >> Welll... my favorite so far has been Unto Ashes' "Saturn Return." Dammit, now I have that Jane Birkin Orangoutan song on my mind. That does it, I'm going to put on Single Gun Theory's "Flow, River of My Soul" - not new, but newly discovered by me this year. Kira http://www.ailurodrome.com/ __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Best albums of 2001? On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Moseley_Patrick wrote: > Hi all, > > If I were to say to any of you, "With the exception of Bjork's > Vespertine, I haven't heard any good new music this year," which album > would you tell me I needed to go listen to immediately? borderline ecto (male voice but i think the mood fits): sparklehorse _life is beautiful_ my favorite disc of the year w/o particular ecto qualification; vaguely like what the mekons might sound like if they'd stayed a 'punk' band after they learned how to play (but still wrote some pretty, slow tunes anyway): cry baby cry _jesus loves stacey_ - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 15:01:14 -0700 From: Michele Wellck Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Todd Tyrtle wrote: > > Oh Gad, Sage and I also have a soft spot for Take 6, and our Cousin's > Christian music (www.shepherdsong.org). Who'd think, that knew us, that > we'd own and enjoy an album called "Jazz Praise". > > Though we're far from Christians, ourselves. It was funny - last week we > were listening to Take 6 (good music for cleaning house) and there was a > point where a friend came by and Sage ran to the back room to shut it off > lest rumours start! ;^) > When I was in college in the late 80s I lived in a co-op that had a stereo system with speakers in the nice big kitchen, so when I was avoiding homework by baking cookies or something I'd pick something to listen to. One afternoon I was accused of "trying to convert us" because I'd been playing a Peter Paul and Mary album that had some "Christian" music on it. As far as I was concerned, the songs were part of the American folk music tradition, and I hadn't even thought about it as Christian music. Oops. Never played that album over the house system again... Michele - -- Michele Wellck Academy Archivist California Academy of Sciences Golden Gate Park San Francisco, CA 94118 (415) 750-7301 (phone) (415) 750-7106 (fax) mwellck@calacademy.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:54:40 -0700 From: "Harmony Ridge Music" Subject: RE: Best albums of 2001? Gee, I was just thinking about the slew of really great releases recently: Magdalen Hsu-Li..."Fire" Melissa Ferrick..."Skinnier, Faster,Live" and "Valentine Heartache" Gillian Welch... "Time (The Revelator)"--- my favorite so far Victoria Williams..."Water To Drink" Lucinda Williams..."Essence" Catie Curtis..."You Look Good In My Shirt" Annie Gallup..."Swerve" Jenifer Jackson..."Birds" plus "Slowly Bright" an earlier release Rose Polenzani..."Rose Polenzani" Mary Jane Lamond..."Rrain Gh`idhlig" Lila Downs.."Border" Shalom, Jack Sutton Harmony Ridge Music www.hrmusic.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Moseley_Patrick Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:25 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Best albums of 2001? Hi all, If I were to say to any of you, "With the exception of Bjork's Vespertine, I haven't heard any good new music this year," which album would you tell me I needed to go listen to immediately? Thanks, Patrick (craving some good new music as I impatiently await the Left Hand Demos) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 18:33:39 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures >np amy ray _stag_ How is that, btw? Emily was always my favored half. JoAnn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 18:41:51 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: good 2001 albums Ooh, yes, the Lucinda Williams, Rachael Sage, and Melissa Ferrick I highly applaud. Emm and Dar's new ones are on my ever-growing list of albums to get when I have money (ie a job). But let's see, Lucinda's and Rachael's you'll like if you liked their last ones. Melissa's, even if you didn't like the last album Freedom, you may still like, because that's how I feel. Her live energy is so incredible, and while the double cd draws heavily from Freedom, there are older songs on there as well. Laura Watling and Curve are names I haven't heard before. What are they like? JoAnn At 03:58 PM 10/4/01 -0400, you wrote: >Some of my 2001 highlights with at least some potential Ecto appeal: > >Laurie Anderson: Life on a String >Curve: Gift >Melissa Ferrick: Skinnier, Faster, Live at the BPC >Emm Gryner: Girl Versions >Low: Things We Lost In the Fire >Mandalay: Solace >Rachael Sage: Painting of a Painting >Laura Watling: Early Morning Walk >Dar Williams: Out There Live >Lucinda Williams: Essence > >glenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 18:44:54 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: RE: Best albums of 2001? >Mary Jane Lamond..."Rrain Gh`idhlig" she has a new one??!! I had no idea! Is it in the same vein as lan duil and suas e! or has she returned to more traditional stuff. do tell! oh dear, another album to the ever-growing list JoAnn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:09:58 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Best albums of 2001? Hi, Patrick inquired: >If I were to say to any of you, "With the exception of Bjork's >Vespertine, I haven't heard any good new music this year," which album >would you tell me I needed to go listen to immediately? I'll heartily second the recommendations for Rachael Sage, Laurie Anderson, and Suzanne Vega. I would also add _The Nields Live From Northampton_ and outloud dreamer's _Drink The Sky_. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:14:34 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Guilty pleasures Hi, Todd wondered: >Surely >everyone here has some unpredictably non-ecto music guilty pleasures. Anything from the early '80s gets me going, particularly Duran Duran and Culture Club (a couple summers ago, when I saw the Culture Club/Human League/Howard Jones tour I finally achieved closure on my adolescence :). I also own (and often listen to) all six volumes of the _Xena: Warrior Princess_ soundtrack collection. What do I win? ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:22:15 -0400 From: Jason Gordon Subject: Re: Best albums of 2001? Hmm...I have to agree with the Jenifer Jackson albums as well as Rachel Sage and Melissa Ferrick mentioned many times...Let me add: Over The Rhine - Films for Radio Willow - Sweet Dark Demon Club 8 Oh Susana - Sleepy Little Sailor Nina Nastasia - Dogs Mira - Apart Deb Talan - Something Burning Heather Eatman - Real - -Jason Btw, does anyone know how to get out the bottom piece of a ligtbulb if all the glass pieces have come out..I dont think the potato trick will work because there is nothing to hold on too...oh well :) np Vienna Teng - -----Original Message----- From: Harmony Ridge Music To: ecto@smoe.org Date: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: RE: Best albums of 2001? Gee, I was just thinking about the slew of really great releases recently: Magdalen Hsu-Li..."Fire" Melissa Ferrick..."Skinnier, Faster,Live" and "Valentine Heartache" Gillian Welch... "Time (The Revelator)"--- my favorite so far Victoria Williams..."Water To Drink" Lucinda Williams..."Essence" Catie Curtis..."You Look Good In My Shirt" Annie Gallup..."Swerve" Jenifer Jackson..."Birds" plus "Slowly Bright" an earlier release Rose Polenzani..."Rose Polenzani" Mary Jane Lamond..."Rrain Gh`idhlig" Lila Downs.."Border" Shalom, Jack Sutton Harmony Ridge Music www.hrmusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:25:47 -0700 From: "Harmony Ridge Music" Subject: RE: Best albums of 2001? I don't think the proper spelling translated thru the e-mail due to the special characters. It's more Like Orain Ghaidhlig. Anyway it's subtitled "Gaelic Songs Of Cape Breton" and is pretty much in the traditional vein. It may have been released in 2000, I'm not sure. It has a great video included as well. Speaking of videos, I'd throw in the Nields video CD "Come On And Play" to the favorite list. Shalom, Jack Sutton Harmony Ridge Music www.hrmusic.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of JoAnn Whetsell Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:45 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: RE: Best albums of 2001? >Mary Jane Lamond..."Rrain Gh`idhlig" she has a new one??!! I had no idea! Is it in the same vein as lan duil and suas e! or has she returned to more traditional stuff. do tell! oh dear, another album to the ever-growing list JoAnn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:28:19 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Best albums of 2001? >If I were to say to any of you, "With the exception of Bjork's >Vespertine, I haven't heard any good new music this year," which album >would you tell me I needed to go listen to immediately? Immediately: Veda Hille's Field Study Two Loons for Tea (self-titled) download Splashdown's _blueshift_ at http://blueshift.ath.cx/blueshift/ or ftp://blueshift.ath.cx/blueshift/ Other favourites so far this year: Basque, falling forward Kathleen Yearwood, Dog Logic Bonfire Madigan, Saddle The Bridge (maybe not this year) First of June, What The Wind Brings Kristin Hersh, Sunny Border Blue Low, Things We Lost in the Fire Annette Parrington, Azure Wonder & Lust Annika Bentley, with leak, blink, & breath Willow, sweet dark demon Sarina Simoom, thread bone bare - --Neile n.p. Smoke City, Heroes of Nature (not so grabby as their first, so far) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ............ http://www.ectoguide.org ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #283 **************************