From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #275 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, September 27 2001 Volume 07 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Suzanne Vega, Tori Amos, Sparklehorse ["Dirk Kastens" ] Sigur Ros, 930 CLub, 9/25/2001 [Craig Gidney ] Re: Closing songs [strange little woj ] FW: She's got the beat! Oct 3-6, 2001 (VANCOUVER) [Sherlyn Koo ] Re: Closing songs ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Music made for pleasure, music made to thrill [Bob Kollmeyer ] Shannon Wright's "Dyed in the Wool." [Craig Gidney ] Happy Early Birthday to me! [JoAnn Whetsell ] thinking about Sept. 11; lyrics [JoAnn Whetsell ] Re: Music made for pleasure, music made to thrill [Amanda ] new autour de lucie / suzanne vega [damon of the living dead Subject: RE: Suzanne Vega, Tori Amos, Sparklehorse Hi, > I've been looking forward to Songs in Red and Gray for a while--Suzanne's > first release of all new material in 5 years--and so far it's > not a disappointment. Not at all. I only listened to it once, yesterday, and I really like it. BTW, it's produced by Rupert Hine. Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:46:28 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Closing songs on 25/9/01 adamk@zoom.co.uk wrote: >The last song on an album is almost as important as the >first. It has to sign off all that has gone before, sum it >up and wave goodbye. It has to leave you feeling uplifted, >complete, and sad as the last notes fade into the >headphones. That is so true! I even noticed this pattern in sampler tapes I make: I often pay more attention to how they end than how they begin. Sure, I'll usually start the tape with something I think will pull the listener in, or is somehow representative of what's to follow. But the closing track will be probably my favourite of the lot, or something that I really respond to on a personal level. >I know there are hundreds more out there, but haven't >scoured my collection for a list. One that springs to mind is Loreena McKennitt "the book of secrets" which ends with "Dante's prayer". It's a magnificent fade :) Or how about Lisa Germano "Happiness"? At least on my version of this CD (because I remember there was another), the last track is 'the darkest night of all". It wraps things up perfectly - how fitting this obsesive, depressing outpouring should end on a note of such gorgeous, hopeless sadness. And then there is Wendy Rule's song "Zero", which she usually uses to finish her performances. It is just such a perfect "closing" song it was only natural it should also close the album on which it was recorded, "Deity" ... exept it doesn't. It comes second last. Strange logic I could never understand, or accept. As far as I'm concerned, "Deity" ends with "Zero", and that's that! :) - ---------------------------------------------------- "People who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable." - ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 06:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Sigur Ros, 930 CLub, 9/25/2001 Last night's Sigur Ros concert at the 930 Club in DC was a display of awesome talent. For those who don't know, SR are a band of Icelandic dream-pop merchants. Their music references all of the atmospheric greats--Eno, Pink Floyd, Cocteau Twins, Radiohead, Aphex Twin, Slowdive--while remaining wholly original. Like many "ethereal" bands, SR's vocalist expresses himself in a private language; it's a unique technique, as he is the only male singer who does that. His voice is a tenor that keens into a swooping falsetto--very Jeff Buckleyesque. It's amazing to watch this powerful voice come out of such a wisp of a man. When he sings, he looks anguished. There were several times where I thought he was crying. He also plays an e-bowed guitar. At one point, he actually *sang* into the guitar, distorting his voice. The aesthetic of the concert was like a classical recital--nearly 2 hours, no breaks, the songs blending into each other. Which is appropriate, given the symphonic sounds the 4 piece conjured. A screen behind the band showed projections, mostly fuzzy, cyclic images of faces, children, birds and animals. The lighting was subdued, mostly purples, with the singer's face illuminated. Other words: oceanic, trancey, glacial. Though I was standing up--after being up since 5 in the morning, I hardly noticed the nagging pain in my leg. It was an utterly bewitching experience. - --Craig ===== "Tired moons ask higher tides."--Zelda Fitzgerald ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:10:16 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: Closing songs when we last left our heroes, adamk@zoom.co.uk exclaimed: >I know there are hundreds more out there, but haven't >scoured my collection for a list. the obvious example for me would be KaTe's "the morning fog" on _hounds of love_. woj n.p. kathryn williams -- little black numbers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:36:43 -0700 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: FW: She's got the beat! Oct 3-6, 2001 (VANCOUVER) Hey folks, This is forwarded from the indigrrl list... - -sherlyn - --- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 03:44:43 -0400 From: Leslie Berry Subject: She's got the beat! Oct 3-6, 2001 She's got the beat! Oct 3-6, 2001ATTN! Guest speakers Janet Danielson, President of the Association of Canadian Women Composers, and David Duke, Music Department Head, Vancouver Community College, will lead a discussion exploring women in music and their contribution to the Canadian scene on Wednesday 26 September 2001 - 7:30 PM at the University Women's Club at Hycroft Mansion (604-731-4661). Admission is free. She's got the beat! Vancouver New Music recognizes and celebrates women in music. "Since I am no more held back by feminine weakness than by any allowance made for my sex, I fly on lightest leaves in devotion to make my bow." Barbara Strozzi (1619 -ca.1664) vancouver new music is proud to present its season opener, Vox Femina, a series of concerts celebrating women musicians and composers coinciding with the 20th anniversary of the Association of Canadian Women Composers (ACWC) from 3 to 6 October 2001 at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre. In addition to Vancouver's own Peggy Lee and new music maverick Lori Freedman, Vox Femina features internationally renowned avant garde violinist/vocalist Iva Bittova from the Czech Republic. "Critics from all over the world try to classify Iva Bittova. Some say she is like Meredith Monk, others call up Laurie Anderson, or even Diamanda Galas. But Bittova is a very individual, outstanding performer, composer and actress who is always searching for new and non-traditional shapes." Vox Femina is the inaugural programming of new Artistic Director Giorgio Magnanensi. According to Magnanensi, "I've always felt dubious about programming an event of only women's music as I fear it can reinforce a sense of ghettoization, even though there is real disparity in terms of women's representation in contemporary art practice. However, given the anniversary of the Association of Canadian Women Composers, what better way to recognize and celebrate the remarkable commitment and talent of women musicians." Vox Femina Shifting Tides Wednesday, 3 October 2001 - 8 PM Vancouver East Cultural Centre A salute to Jean Coulthard, Barbara Pentland, and Violet Archer, arguably the mothers of Canadian contemporary music, and the Canadian women composers who have followed in their path: Rose Bolton, Cassandra Miller, Jocelyn Morlock and Isabelle Panetton. Mondo Veneris Thursday, 4 October 2001 - 8 PM Vancouver East Cultural Centre Mondo Veneris features women composers of geographical and creative extremes from Finland (Kaija Saariaho), Russia (Galina Ustvolskaya) and the US (Lois V Vierk). Iva Bittova - Solo Performance Friday, 5 October 2001 - 8 PM Vancouver East Cultural Centre A solo performance by internationally renowned avant garde violinist/vocalist Iva Bittova (vocals, violin, viola) from the Czech Republic. Trio Improvisation Featuring Iva Bittova, Lori Freedman and Peggy Lee Saturday, 6 October 2001 - 8 PM Vancouver East Cultural Centre An evening of improvisation with special guest Iva Bittova (Czech Republic - --- vocals, violin, viola), local sensation Peggy Lee (cello) and new music maverick Lori Freedman (Montreal - clarinet, bass clarinet). In addition to these four concerts, Vox Femina also features a discussion session and an artist chat. Guest speakers Janet Danielson, President of the Association of Canadian Women Composers, and David Duke, Music Department Head, Vancouver Community College, will lead a discussion exploring women in music and their contribution to the Canadian scene on Wednesday 26 September 2001 - 7:30 PM at the University Women's Club at Hycroft Mansion (604-731-4661). Admission is free. On Saturday 6 October at 5:30 PM at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre, come and meet performers Iva Bittova, Lori Freedman and Peggy Lee as they discuss the distinct and unique paths of their careers in music. Single tickets are $20 for adults and $15 for students and can be purchased through Ticketmaster by phone at (604)-280-3311 or online at www.tickemaster.com. Vox Femina Passes for all four events are $68 for adults and $51 for students and can be purchased by calling 604-633-0861. Phone: (604) 633-0861 Fax: (604) 633-0871 Email: dorothy@newmusic.org Website: www.newmusic.org vancouver new music gratefully acknowledges the support of The Canada Council for the Arts, Heritage Canada through the Western Cultural Fund, the Province of British Columbia through the British Columbia Arts Council and the BC Gaming Commission, The City of Vancouver through the office of Cultural Affairs, the Vancouver Foundation, The SOCAN Foundation, CBC Radio One 690 and Radio Two 105.7, Western Front, and the Holiday Inn. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:37:07 -0000 From: "neal copperman" Subject: Re: Sigur Ros, 930 CLub, 9/25/2001 Thanks for the great review Craig. If I still lived back there, I'd definitely have been at that show. Has anyone picked up their album? (Ok, I know there are two, but only one is available in the US.) I was curious cause Juha got me a copy early in the year, when it was only available as an import, and it looks fantastic. (Sounds great too. Doesn't taste so good though.) There's not a word of English in it, but it's got beautiful packaging. I'd be curious to know what's in the US release. Oddly, I discovered Sigur Ros roundaboutly through ecto. Someone asked about musicians from Iceland, and I went out searching. They were one of the people I found. Go figure. Anyway, the disc was released in the US a few months ago, and I know it's been spotted pretty cheap at places like Best Buy. neal np: New Mother - The Angels of Light (post-Swans Gira band) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:54:28 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: Closing songs Well, back when it *was* the closing song, "To Be E. Mortal" always did it for me. Of course, the CD release of _Ecto_ changed all that -- not that I wasn't grateful for the extra tracks, but it definitely changed the feel of the album. Hmmm. What else? Also coming to mind is "Been Set Free" from Peter Himmleman's _Skin_ (but that's an epiphany song on a concept album, much as "The Morning Fog" is on _The Ninth Wave_) jeff n.p. _Vespertine_, Bjork ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:19:34 -0500 From: Bob Kollmeyer Subject: Music made for pleasure, music made to thrill Yeeps - been a while since I've written, but had to pass this along... from http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010925/hl/music.html - The investigators found that the music their study participants said gave them ``chills'' also activated the brain's reward and emotion centers--the same areas that have been found to ``light up'' when stimulated by food, sex and drugs of abuse. So does this mean that the governments of certain European countries will be giving out free CDs to EWS sufferers? Always cranky until he's had his first song in the morning, bob np: SIG - http://vickie.homeip.net:8000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:19:15 -0000 From: "neal copperman" Subject: Re: FW: She's got the beat! Oct 3-6, 2001 (VANCOUVER) Sherlyn Koo said: > vancouver new music is proud to present its season opener, Vox Femina, a > series of concerts celebrating women musicians and composers coinciding > with the 20th anniversary of the Association of Canadian Women Composers > (ACWC) from 3 to 6 October 2001 at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre. In > addition to Vancouver's own Peggy Lee and new music maverick Lori Freedman, > Vox Femina features internationally renowned avant garde violinist/vocalist > Iva Bittova from the Czech Republic. Anyone who can should make every effort to see one of the shows with Iva Bittova. She is a brilliant and captivating performer. The one time I saw he was breathtaking. Oddly enough, it was in a small sold-out rock club in DC (The Metro Cafe). From the moment she took the stage, singing unamplified, in the dark, from the back of the stage, the bar went silent. I don't think anyone spoke again for the full set, which is really remarcable for that sort of environment. If anyone stumbles across any info on additional shows when she's in the US, please pass it on. Her appearances in this country are quite rare. I'd be interested in talking to anyone who is going to a show in Vancouver to see if she has any more discs available then the one's I've already picked up. A web search shows a new release - - Bittova + Kroper - Echoes [Supraphon 2001 SU35052931] but no tour info or details for buying it. I found a nice discography that shows she has recorded 11 CD's. (Amazingly, I already have 7 of them!) neal np: Scarlet and other stories - All About Eve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 18:41:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Music made for pleasure, music made to thrill On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Bob Kollmeyer wrote: > > np: SIG - http://vickie.homeip.net:8000 > Thanks for reminding me :) I was just wondering what to listen to ... Yngve n.p. SIG n.r. Women in Crime - Edited by Sara Paretski **** Fight for the right to speak against what's wrong **** ** Everything you do - good or bad - will get back to you * *********** So beware !! ********************************** ************* Blessed be !!! ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:02:25 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Closing songs I have the soundtrack for the movie "Trouble In Mind", an independent film which came out in the 80s. The soundtrack LP (now available on CD) is a true "soundtrack", meaning that it is the music played in the film in support of the images (this is before the days when "soundtracks" became nothing more than a collection of "hit" songs loosely related to the movie). The closing song in the _Trouble In Mind_ soundtrack is an awesome blend of the voice of Marianne Faithful, the music and lyrics of Kris Kristofferson, and the arrangement and accompaniment of Mark Isham. The music is good, the lyrics are special, and the arrangement is wonder-full. From the moment I heard the music as I watched the ending of the movie I was immediately hooked. Not only did the song make a fitting ending to the movie, and also a good match to the closing scene in the movie, but it was good music to my ears, all on its own. Lucky for me I was able to find the album and have ever since been enjoying "The Hawk (El Gavilan)" as one of my favorite works. - - Bill G. np: Cat Stevens - The Very Best of Cat Stevens (did you all know that the piano work on "Morning Has Broken" was done by Rick Wakeman? no wonder that piano sounded so good!). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:28:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Shannon Wright's "Dyed in the Wool." If you like Veda Hille and Kristen Hersh, do yourself a favor and pick up Wright's new cd "Dyed in the Wool." It's art-damaged folk-rock with a startling singer with a penchant for disturbing disjointed imagery. Members of the Rachels guest. Wright's piano playing is very avant-jazz influenced. - --Craig (taking a quick break from archiving) ===== "Tired moons ask higher tides."--Zelda Fitzgerald ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:32:39 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: Happy Early Birthday to me! Happy Early Birthday to me! I just got in the mail a birthday card from people who don't usually send me one and a $300 refund from the government (totally unexpected). I *should* send it all towards old bills, but I'm going to set $50 aside for new cds from the cdbaby artists donating their money to the relief effort. Some great stuff I've been meaning to look into for a while. That and an extra month's worth of healthcare. Now all I need is a job (and even those prospects are looking up) JoAnn np: Lucy Kaplansky, The Tide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:04:04 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: thinking about Sept. 11; lyrics Still Life Sadness is a little boy looking Out the window high above a city Counting statues of people on the buildings Thinking that the people are forever He wants his father to be a statue On the rooftop of his fatherless home So that he can always see him So that he will never leave him Late at night in the darkness of his dreaming His father's words fall down in a rain storm And the words become hands that will guide him Through his life in the world just beginning You cannot live in bronze or stone Make your life in flesh and bone Stranded is a man no longer searching For the life he had hoped for and imagined Courting fear instead of a woman Holding sorrow as his only companion Counting days like his money in the markets And watching life from the window in his office Maybe one day I'll have the courage Maybe one day I'll sail across the ocean But I feel safe in the light of my computer This is how I choose to live Fixed in stone a man will wither Running waters are the life of the river You cannot live in bronze or stone Make your life in flesh and bone Remember me Frightened is an old man limping Through the park on a dark December day He stands frozen at the base of a statue And he hopes for a warm hand to help him Tonight he will dream that he is flying Over banks of a river he remembers His father's voice will echo all around him His father's hands will hold him in the sky Now I can sail across the ocean Now I will sail across the ocean Now I am sailing across the ocean I cannot live in bronze or stone I must live in flesh and bone Remember me Remember me Remember me lyrics by Richard Litvin & Lucy Kaplansky; from Lucy's album "Flesh & Bone" I just pulled out Lucy's first two albums today, for no particular reason, and the lyrics to this song seemed particularly fitting in these times. JoAnn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:07:47 +1000 (EST) From: Amanda Subject: Re: Music made for pleasure, music made to thrill On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Bob Kollmeyer wrote: > Yeeps - been a while since I've written, but had to pass this along... > > from http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010925/hl/music.html - > > The investigators found that the music their study participants said gave > them ``chills'' also activated the brain's reward and emotion centers--the > same areas that have been found to ``light up'' when stimulated by food, > sex and drugs of abuse. Hi there I went to that site and it was no longer there. Amanda > So does this mean that the governments of certain European countries will > be giving out free CDs to EWS sufferers? > > Always cranky until he's had his first song in the morning, > bob I need my first song, my coffee and my email in the morning before I feel Human. Humorous that I happen to be listening to "Human" by Goldfrapp at the moment :-) Amanda > np: SIG - http://vickie.homeip.net:8000 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ooooooooooooooooooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ".......my neck is very slender" - Anne Boleyn _________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:22:11 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: RE: Music made for pleasure, music made to thrill So... we're all Happy addicts? I thought we all knew that already :) Phil - -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kollmeyer [mailto:rjk@hagbard.io.com ......The investigators found that the music their study participants said gave them ``chills'' also activated the brain's reward and emotion centers--the same areas that have been found to ``light up'' when stimulated by food, sex and drugs of abuse. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:55:54 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Cowboy Junkies @ Toad's Place, New Haven I was the beneficiary of Meth 'n' Woj's decision to forsake the Cowboy Junkies in New Haven in favor of seeing Susan McKeown in New York; since my office has been temporarily dislocated to Stamford Connecticut, I thought I'd go north for once. Toad's Place strikes me like the kind of place Maxwell's would be if real estate prices were lower in Hoboken; the place is one big sprawling performance area with several bars, a downstairs, rooms off to the side, etc. Tim Easton, the opener, went on a half hour after the show was supposed to start. Sort of a male counterpart to Trina Hamlin--folk singer pretty handy with the guitar and harmonica. I found him boring. Cowboy Junkies finally went on a bit after 10:00, which wasn't nice for me since the last train back to New York was at 11:17. So I only caught the show up until 11:00, when I had to leave or risk spending the night on the street. (I almost didn't make it, too--couldn't find a cab anywhere until the last minute; arrived at the station with about 60 seconds to spare.) The full band was there--Margo, Michael, Pete, Alan, Jeff as well as Linford Detweiler, who I didn't expect to see. I guess Karin is at home in Cincinnati dealing with the misfortune of her mother's stroke. I found this review of the show posted by "Crazy Ed" on the message board at cowboyjunkies.com: >When Tim Easton staggered off stage disoriented from the geese >onslaught I'm sure The Junkies knew they were up against a tough >crowd. They came out strong but when they let up for a couple quiet >tunes the geese pushed ...and Cowboy Junkies pushed back. With >little finesse and massive sheets of distortion, feedback, and >volume the band dismanteled the geese's eco-system. Manic drum beats >fighting with chest pounding bass as Margo screamed Murder and Jeff >and Linford rattled,shook, and pounded music from whatever was at >hand. >Did the geese quiet down? Hell no, but first they were negated then >invited along for the ride, if they could hold on. Something akin to >an aural steroid rage with a viscious edge to it rolled over the >crowd with little concern for collateral damage. It was like seeing >the quiet kid kick the bully's ass. Did I mention that this show >ROCKED? This was the show that I always knew they had in them. It >could have been prettier but it sounded like an open handed slap >across the face of every loudmouth drunk that ever ruined your >favorite Junkies song. I know it's only rock 'n roll but I like it. I count myself fortunate that I wasn't standing anywhere near the loudmouth drunks. The set started with "Open," whose lyrics Margo practically spat out; she was squinting and looking harsh and nasty. Not sure if she had been unhappy with something before the set started, or if that's just how she wanted to perform it. In the second number, "Ring on the Sill," she seemed to let go more, but still didn't really seem to be quite enjoying herself. After that, though, she started talking to the audience and it was the same old Margo. The night before was their night off, she explained, so they wound up watching TV and caught "Who Wants to be a Princess?" Margo was almost at a loss for words she was so incredulous. She dedicated the next song to the contestants on the show: "Cause Cheap is How I Feel." After that: "A Horse in the Country" -- at the start of the song, while I was writing down the set list on the back of my ticket, that Margo looked right down at me with a look that said: "What are you doing writing in the middle of my set?" Of course, I have no idea if she really saw me or not... "Lay It Down" -- terrific atmosphere and guitar solo by Michael "Close My Eyes" and then a few more comments about "Who Wants to be a Princess?" "So you win this contest, and you're out on a date with this prince, and you're wondering--you know why you did it, because you get to be on TV and everything, and after all, he *is* a prince--but you're wondering why *he* did it, what kind of a guy is this, who has to go on TV in order to get a date... and you're on this date with him and you realize, he's OK, but he's just boring... and you break up with him and even though you know that it wasn't a good thing for you, you're pissed off because you know that someone else is going to get him..." So the next song was about breaking up with someone but being angry because someone else would get that person: "Hard to Explain" And then, a fairly mellow version of "First Recollection." Then I had to leave. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:30:11 -0700 From: damon of the living dead Subject: new autour de lucie / suzanne vega hullo all - just finished another cd shopping spree (i avoided ews for a long time but it seems to be back in force; luckily i *usually* confine myself to secondhand stores now but not tonight). i noticed but did not pick up the new suzanne vega album, _songs in red and grey_, and also found a new one by autour de lucie i didn't know about, called _faux mouvement_. so i'm wondering if anyone has any comments on them? i'm sure the vega one, at least, has been discussed here, but i don't remember anything. i've liked everything else of hers so i don't know why i didn't just pick it up. i'm really interested in comments on the new autour de lucie. i'm absolutely *crazy* about _immobile_ so if it's got a similar feel i should snatch it up (even though it was on the expensive side). i also have their first album, which i like quite a lot, but it hasn't grabbed me in the same way _immobile_ did. anyway... hopefully they're both horrible so i won't have to spend any more money. ;) btw, neile, one of the cds i found was rasputina's _how we quit the forest_ - - at *last*! it was way on the expensive side but when i mentioned that to the cashier she gave me 10% off! probably helped that she had already said `great choice!' when i brought it to the counter; i automatically had an `in' as a fellow fan. ;) - -damon Damon Harper _/\_ "I'm Canadian, actually. That's damon@usrbin.ca __\ /__ like an American, but without \ / the gun." http://www.usrbin.ca/damon/ |/||\| - Kids in the Hall ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #275 **************************