From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #175 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, June 23 2001 Volume 07 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Jill Sobule/Onion/AV club link [adamk@zoom.co.uk] smoe.org downtime [the other white meat ] faith & disease [Neal Copperman ] Re: ecto-digest V7 #174 [AURALG@aol.com] Re: faith & disease [Craig Gidney ] Cowboy Junkies In NYC [John J Henshon ] Ecto --- Some Random Blatherings [John J Henshon ] band names ["Donald G. Keller" ] ky mattel! ["Donald G. Keller" ] Band name origins ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Re: Cowboy Junkies In NYC [meredith ] Re: band names [meredith ] Adopt an Artist [tenthvictim@mindspring.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Nik Popa (DJNikPopa@aol.com) *********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer Samantha Tanner Tue June 30 1970 Wild Goose BunkyTom Tue July 02 1968 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 03 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 05 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 05 1971 Cancer John J Henshon Mon July 05 1954 The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon Jim Gurley Mon July 06 1959 Cancer Lisa Wilson Fri July 08 1960 Moonchild with Java Rising Courtney Dallas Fri July 09 1971 Catte Michael Peskura Sat July 09 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer Rich R. Wed July 14 1954 Cancer John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Dan Stark Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Vlad Sat July 18 1970 Warning: severe tire damage Jani Pinola Thu July 20 1972 Jonquil - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:06:36 +0100 (BST) From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: Jill Sobule/Onion/AV club link The direct link should be: http://www.theonionavclub.com/avclub3723/justify3723.html At least, that's what I had showing in my address bar when I had the Jill Sobule interview onscreen. Usually, however, I find that I always end up bookmarking an image or a banner, but this should work. Otherwise, go to the onion again, look to the far left of the screen -- there should be a black and white menu for the AV club, with all the individual items on offer (including the comic strip, "Red Meat" -- a must for lovers of bizarre humour) If you click on that, it brings you to the AV club, where all the items are again displayed. Yeah, the Onion's fab -- hit and miss, and often tasteless, but generally worth a hearty guffaw or two. Check out their "Horoscopes", as well! adam k Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:31:52 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: smoe.org downtime just a head's up: smoe.org will be down for a short period of time sometime this weekend. the exact time is not certain yet, but it's likely to be around 4pm edt (gmt-5) today. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:10:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: faith & disease Anyone have any thoughts on Faith & Disease. I read the info on the Projekt page, and it sounded like something I would really like. Then again, virtually anything I have ever read about from Projekt sounds like something I would realy like, and it rarely turns out to be the case. I've only heard about a half dozen Projekt discs, but only Love Spirals Downward has struck meas particularly notable. neal np: The World So Wide - Dawn Upshaw ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:44:54 EDT From: AURALG@aol.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V7 #174 Band name origins: ala Steeley Dan, 10 cc, The Doors, etc. Just some fun fodder. What came from where, how and why. Any interesting stories out there ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Re: faith & disease I love Faith and Disease. They have a gentle folk-ethereal sound that's removed from the usual stuff on Projekt. The new cd has an old-timey murder ballad, and overall, resembles a cross between the Cowboy Junkies and Faith-era Cure. Dara, the lead singer, sounds like an operatic Natalie Merchant. - --Craig - --- Neal Copperman wrote: > Anyone have any thoughts on Faith & Disease. I read > the info on the > Projekt page, and it sounded like something I would > really like. Then > again, virtually anything I have ever read about > from Projekt sounds like > something I would realy like, and it rarely turns > out to be the case. > I've only heard about a half dozen Projekt discs, > but only Love Spirals > Downward has struck meas particularly notable. > > neal > > np: The World So Wide - Dawn Upshaw ===== Craig L. Gidney http://profiles.yahoo.com/quisquose11 Reviews of books and music, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ethereality Online Journal, Egg-centric http://egg-centric.blogspot.com/ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:57:48 -0400 From: John J Henshon Subject: Cowboy Junkies In NYC I imagine it's been posted, but my mind's a bald tire in a tack field. Cowboy Junkies / Central Park Summerstage July 1 2001. John Quasi-Random Band Generator Questionable Emissions Dismal Seepage From F.Z. >>> Vile Foamy Liquids. "Arf" She Said. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:00:30 -0400 From: John J Henshon Subject: Ecto --- Some Random Blatherings Ectofolk, One of the reasons I finally broke down and got a tube for home, after years of resistance, aside from the desire to check out that bastard Gate's flight sim, was to search out information on KaTe. With sitting in front of one of these accursed devises in the snake-pit for years, the last thing I wanted to do was find one lurking in my sanctuary. Subscribing to one of the Bush Woman's lists I started to read rumblings and ramblings about this Rhodes upstart and was intrigued. The names Vickie, Woj and Meth come to mind. I found out that having to search the rows under H as well as R was a small price to pay for my ultimate reward. I immediately became a crackhead in search of a Rhodes fix. The first time I had the pleasure of seeing her perform was up in Woodstock, I dragged my friend Frank and Glen "the derelict" along for the ride, telling them, "you've got to see this amazing woman". None of us were disappointed. Jeff Buckley (sitting at the next table) seemed very impressed as well. Only having managed to secure a minimum number of items in Ms Rhodes' expanding disc output, I heard songs that glorious night previously unfamiliar to me, and was delighted by them all. I had my first encounter of the Ectophile kind that evening as well. Playing the mother hen, Sharon Nichols came up to me and inquired as to my intentions regarding the Dat I was running, strictly honorable I assure you, I replied. She wanted to be sure I had no commercial intentions. She had her back. I never did duplicate the tape as it did not do justice to the magnificence of her performance that night. I have yet to be able to capture that magic, but look to the future with a hopeful eye. It was the first of many wonderful Ectophile encounters. Were it not for Ecto many, many wonderful and talented people like Susan McKeown, Merrie Amsterburg, Mila Drumke, Sloan Wainwright and Veda Hille might have remained on the outskirts of my musical universe. When I think of all the shows, all the people, all the good times that came into my life as a direct result of Ecto awareness I am filled with an immense feeling of gratitude for all of you. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: band names It never ceases to amaze me, the almost mystical fascination that some people have with band names. (And you never hear people waxing poetic on album titles--=Disraeli Gears=!--or song titles--"Mummy was an asteroid, daddy was a small non-stick kitchen utensil"--that last an actual "song" from Phil Manzanera's group Quiet Sun's only album =Mainstream=.) Maybe I'm just a curmudgeon. Or maybe, like a worker in a candy factory, I've passed the surfeit point. But having read several tall stacks of rock publications in the last 7 years, and scoured the venue ads in the =Village Voice= (and elsewhere) every week over that time, I've seen so many band names of so many different kinds that the phenomenon of naming a band has lost its philosophical luster. To me, it's essentially a practical matter: a band needs a name, and better it should be distinctive and memorable. But two of the best bands in rock history, the Beatles and the Who, and two more recent ones I've particularly liked, Cowboy Junkies and Sneaker Pimps, have four of the =dumbest= band names (in my opinion) I've ever heard. The three bands I've been to see most in my life are Babe the blue OX, Halcion, and Very Pleasant Neighbor. (Kristeen Young is currently 4th with a bullet.) The two most pleasant discoveries I made last year were Interpol and Bee & Flower. The bands on my Best of 2000 list were The Black Heart Procession, Bride of No No, Elysian Fields, The Gunga Din, Karate, The Letter E, Poem Rocket, Ruby Falls, and Shell. I've got this complilation of mostly Atlanta bands, including among others Broken Symmetry, Another Dead Sharon, Melted Men, Turkish Delight, Routerwhelm, William Carlos Wiliams, Remora, Go-Fi, Who Killed Teacher?, Heinous Bienfang, Peppermint Synapse, Pineal Ventana, The Mudflap Girls from Venus, and the somewhat better-known God Is My Co-Pilot and Suran Song in Stag. (The latter's oddness is only enhanced by the fact that Suran Song is the lead singer's actual name.) Next to it is another compilation which came with a magazine called =Escargot= (how come we never discuss magazine names?) featuring such bands as Shiva Speedway (a Boston fave of mine), Mote, The In Out (not to be confused with The Up On In), Urban Farmers, Broken Wind Ensemble, Urban Farmers, Swandive, and Primordial Undermind. Another compilation from St. Louis (thanks to Bob Kollmeyer) featuring an otherwise-unavailable Kristeen Young song also features Kill Hannah, Pamper the Madman, Die Symphony, Idiot Flesh, Alchemy, Flibberty Gibbit, The Sun Sawed in 1/2, and the better-known My Scarlet Life and Collaborateur. Looking at just one mini-bookcase in my CD collection, I see Rattlecake, Battershell, Piss Factory, Emma Peel (the last two basically the same band with personnel changes), Picasso Trigger, The Ellen James Society, Sidi Bou Said, Jessamine, Josephine the Singer. And opening this week's =Village Voice= and scanning about at semi-random, I see Summer Soulstice, Swingin' Neckbreakers (who have been around for years), Champions of Sound, Noah's Red Tatoo, Burning Cold, Ki: Theory, Quintron & Miss Pussycat, Dismemberment Plan (another excellent Boston band), Autopilot Off, Amenpill, Adharma, Bamm Hollow, Swallow, Wooden Snow... So the leading question is: when did =you= stop reading? Yes, I went overboard, but that's my point. Eventually you reach information overload and the mystique of naming a band name loses its appeal. And there are only about 75 band names in this post. In practice, band names are lame, clever, neutral, and everywhere in between, and it's impossible to assimilate the "let me count the ways" bands get their names. Pop quiz: I actually made up just one of those names. Is there any possible way you can tell? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:28:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: ky mattel! And in a less cranky mood, I offer the following jape which I sent to meth and woj, knowing they were among the few who would get all the in-jokes. woj suggested I send it to ecto anyway, so I hope it amuses. HEY, GIRLS! NEW FROM MATTEL! Meet Barbie's very unusual friend Kristeen! This top rock girl comes with her own microphone and keyboard (stickers not included), dressed in her favorite creation, the Wonder Bread-wrapper dress. Starter kit also includes her "casual look" (saddle shoes, jeans, cub scout shirt, girl scout hat), plus accessories like fishnets in several colors, a roll of duct tape (make bracelets, chokers--even a whole dress!) and magic marker (for all kinds of temporary tatoos). Available separately: - --The white Outer Space Dress, long in back, short in front, with sparkly silver platform boots (try her hair in Princess Leia buns!) - --Pink as a Weapon, including white go-go boots and satin beret--all ready for her Austin Powers audition! - --The Headgear Assortment, to mix'n'match with the other outfits: includes special wires for that Evil Pippi Longstocking look (don't forget the magic marker freckles!), the Rear View Mirrors, and the TV Rabbit Ear (goes best with little braids). Also included: clothspins for the Stegasaurus Effect. You'll have hours of rock'n'roll fun! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:18:58 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: Band name origins A wealth of information on this subject can be found at: http://www.heathenworld.com/bandname/index.html The "canonical list of weird band names" link at the bottom is no longer working, too bad, it used to be a good source for taken band names (no explanation of their derivation). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:38:58 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Cowboy Junkies In NYC Hi, >Cowboy Junkies / Central Park Summerstage July 1 2001. Don't forget it's a special Canada Day show, so Natalie McMaster and Sarah Harmer are also on the bill!! Unbelievable. Guess we'll be seeing you there, right, John? :) ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:38:04 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: band names Hi, Don wondered: >It never ceases to amaze me, the almost mystical fascination that some >people have with band names. (And you never hear people waxing poetic on >album titles--=Disraeli Gears=!--or song titles--"Mummy was an asteroid, >daddy was a small non-stick kitchen utensil"--that last an actual "song" >from Phil Manzanera's group Quiet Sun's only album =Mainstream=.) Ahh, not true. woj and I often will remark on an odd phrase (or a proposed band name in just such a discussion as this) that it would make a better album title. Example: when first the name "Surrounded By Cranes" came up in conversation (in which it had context at the time), we decided it would be a much better album title than band name. "Pineapple Smiles", on the other hand, was definitely a better band name. (Yes, same conversation. Never mind. :) In fact, just this evening at the Pamela Means show at the Acoustic Cafe, the conversation between woj, myself, Mike Curry and Jason often turned to band names ("hey, that would make a good band name") and several of them were deemed better as album titles. I think it's precisely *because* there are so many band names out there, ranging from the completely asinine to the utterly brilliant, that the topic has so much resonance with music lovers, particularly those who go out to see a lot of live music. It's obvious that *anybody* can make up a band name, so why not have some fun and try it? Heck, if nothing else it'll kill some time while waiting for the first band to go on. >Pop quiz: I actually made up just one of those names. Is there any >possible way you can tell? No ... but since all the band names were "made up" at some level, that isn't really a surprise. :) Which one was it? ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille ======================================= Live At The Tre O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:18:14 -0400 From: tenthvictim@mindspring.com Subject: Adopt an Artist Hi, Boys and Girls, It may be time to adopt an artist. I don't know if any of you have been discussing off-list the prospect of helping Happy defray her medical expenses, but I haven't seen anything posted yet. Happy is too cool to ask for help, so we probably ought to offer it. If you read her latest post on auntiesocial, you know she is estimating her bill is the equivalent of 1/3 of a normal person's salary. I don't know what her idea of a normal salary is, but that sounds like a ten to fifteen thousand dollar medical bill to me. As you probably surmised without reading it at auntiesocial, Happy has no medical insurance, much like thousands of other musicians. I for one would not mind sending her a bit of cash to help her in this tight spot. Here's how people do it in the Dallas area, and probably your area, too: If a musician needs an operation, a bar owner offers his/her bar, a couple of bands donate their services, and the door is given to the needy musician. Since we are an online community, we can't do that. But we can still give. Here is one way of looking at it. You probably have budgeted for a fifteen to seventeen dollar CD purchase in July (I know some of you don't spend that kind of money, but this is for those who do). Instead of buying that CD, why not send the money to Ms. Rhodes? If one hundred people do that, we can at least cut her bill by $1,500. If you all are brave enough to make the attempt two or three more times throughout the coming year, so much the better (if that seems excessive to you, please say so on-line). I think it would probably cut down hassles for Sara and Happy if we gather donation money in an account and submit it in a large check or checks. I have elaborately fanciful schemes in mind to make accountability a public thing (they involve pre-printed thank you cards, whipped cream, and a 1963 Cadillac). I will share my great wisdom with all if you want. I am not volunteering to head this up, but I will do so if no one else has the time. Also, I think there may be tax issues involved here that some of you may have experience with. So, can we talk about this amongst ourselves and see if it is feasible and is something we would care to do? I don't often have a chance to be altruistic, so I see this as a good opportunity. It will be good for our souls, and for those of us who don't have souls, it will give us a warm, fuzzy (dare I say blue?) feeling. Regards, Lyle ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #175 **************************