From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #45 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, February 12 2001 Volume 07 : Number 045 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ecto chat rooms [dave ] ot: jonatha brooke fans. ["Heidi Maier" ] Jeff Noon update... [Marla Tiara ] Re: Danger of Dido doing a Jewl? [Ellen Rawson ] Videos on the net ["Julio Ortega" ] kristin hersh [ToriCure@aol.com] Maureen Monroe ["Adam K." ] Re: kristin hersh [Talamasca ] Meredith Monk [Craig Gidney ] Re: Jeff Noon update... [James Mitchell ] Re: Meredith Monk [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Jeff Noon update... [Marla Tiara ] Re: Meredith Monk [Neile Graham ] A little nostalgia ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Sarah Harmer (was Re: mary gauthier) [Michael Curry ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:19:22 -0500 From: dave Subject: Re: ecto chat rooms Mitchell wrote: > Previous attempts at things like this, years ago, ultimately went by the > wayside. There once was a fairly active ecto IRC channel, with which I > have not had contact for years, so I don't know where it stands now. Yes, there still is an #ecto IRC channel on Dalnet. No, it's not very active. A few people drop in now and again though... A little while back we held an online chat event with Dwayne Keith of Grey Eye Glances there, which was fun. It seems though that interest in musical artists related IRC channels has waned over the last few years... I have been keeping #ecto registered just in case anyone wants to use it, so feel free to stop in... I'm on IRC most nights, if not in #ecto, then in #tori. It would also be great to have another artist chat event... if anyone has any suggestions, or if you need help finding the channel, drop me a line. dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:43:40 +1000 From: "Heidi Maier" Subject: ot: jonatha brooke fans. hello folks, i wonder if anybody who is planning to see jonatha at one of her upcoming instore appearances/performances to promote her new record might be kind enough to e-mail me -- i have a favour i would like to ask. [being australian and hence, living in australia, makes it a tad difficult to attend one of her performances myself, alas] ;) heidi. - ------ "i want so much to write well, though i know i don't ... but during and at the end of my life, i will adore those who have." -- *dorothy parker* * heidi maier - maier@joynet.com.au * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:22:31 -0800 (PST) From: Marla Tiara Subject: Jeff Noon update... Thanks to all of you lovely people, I now am the proud owner of three Jeff Noon books I never knew existed - I finished (and am still thinking about) Nymphomation, and Needle in the Groove (plus the accompanying CD) and Pixel Juice arrived yesterday. So thanks! marla tiara ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Famous people wearing my tiara: http://www.marlatiara.com (*updated 01/23/01 - Emm Gryner!) "Give me action and drama, give me 80s Madonna" - Bis Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Danger of Dido doing a Jewl? - --- Martin G Bridges wrote: > Hello all, > > All of a sudden Dido is becoming big news, at least > here in Australia, and > in the UK (so I understand). Yes, she is. She finally is known in her own country. She had hits in the US, and no one here really knew who she was. The result of this new found > fame is that the "No Angel" > album is being heavily promoted, released in > countries it wasn't released in > before, new singles are being picked etc. And she's selling out venues in the London area. (Of course, so's PJ Harvey -- her three nights in London are sold out.) > > Does anyone else out there worry that this is going > to happen to Dido? Is there nothing new in the US neither? As long as she doesn't publish wretched poetry, I won't worry too much about her being like Jewel. Ellen ===== "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:32:23 -0300 From: "Julio Ortega" Subject: Videos on the net I was wondering if anyone is aware of videos of female singers on the net... I am specially looking for full lenght mpeg or mpg videos of Kate Bush... But I would be interested on any video site... Tjanks!!! julio ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:29:57 EST From: ToriCure@aol.com Subject: kristin hersh Hi everyone, Recently I procured my own spot on the University of South Florida radio station. The main reason why I decided to do a radio show was for a selfish reason - to come across great music I haven't heard. I found a Kristin Hersh ep called "Strings." I immediately liked it. I started looking around at record stores to purchase it. Songs like "Beestung" and "Sundrops" floored me. I couldn't find "Strings" but I did purchase "Sky Motel," which I'm slowly getting into. Is there any other album more along the lines of "Strings" that I would appreciate? -- Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:21:28 -0000 From: "Adam K." Subject: Maureen Monroe I'm going mad -- I know I am. Someone in this list, not too long ago, mentioned Maureen Monroe -- could they own up? The name, subliminally planted in my brain, came up when I was doing one of my Soho trawls and came across her cd for a fiver, and I wanted to talk about it but give the origin credit. I keep wanting to reply to several things, but by the time I get round to it, I can't find the posting I want to reply to! nr -- "Norwegian Wood" by Harukai Murakami. STILL np --MP4, by Michael Penn. Nope, it's just finished. Never mind. "For a million years the gods have been telling me secrets I do not remember one." -- Conrad Aiken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:11:24 -0600 From: Talamasca Subject: Re: kristin hersh At 01:29 PM 2/11/01 EST, ToriCure@aol.com wrote: >I found a Kristin Hersh >ep called "Strings." I immediately liked it. I started looking around at >record stores to purchase it. Songs like "Beestung" and "Sundrops" floored >me. I couldn't find "Strings" but I did purchase "Sky Motel," which I'm >slowly getting into. Is there any other album more along the lines of >"Strings" that I would appreciate? -- Mark The first 5 songs of Strings come from the first Kristin Hersh (as opposed to Throwing Muses) album Hips and Makers. These songs on Strings are, in fact, redone versions of the originals, featuring enhanced string accompaniment. Hips and Makers includes a total of 15 songs, so there are still 10 other songs you have not heard which are in this vein. There was also an album between Hips and Makers and Sky Motel, called Strange Angels. I'm more particular to the first and third submissions myself, so I'll let someone else take up the standard for Strange Angels. John Higdon (Talamasca) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:04:46 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Meredith Monk Does anyone have recommendations for the Meredith Monk Oeuvre -- a place to start? The bits and pieces of her work I've heard are intriguing--brittle and crystalline, like glass. Or Glass. Thanks! - --Craig ===== Craig L. Gidney http://profiles.yahoo.com/quisquose11 Reviews of books and music, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ethereality Online Journal, Egg-centric http://egg-centric.blogspot.com/ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:49:56 -0600 From: James Mitchell Subject: Re: Jeff Noon update... Marla Tiara wrote: > Thanks to all of you lovely people, I now am the proud I would have to echo this sentiment. I read Vurt, Nymphomation, and Pollen over the course of about a week in January. It is, (esp. Nymphomation) some of the most pleasant writing I've had the fortune to read, in quite some time. James Mitchell jmitchel@lucent.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:51:11 -0600 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Meredith Monk On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 12:04:46PM -0800, Craig Gidney wrote: > Does anyone have recommendations for the Meredith Monk > Oeuvre -- a place to start? > > The bits and pieces of her work I've heard are > intriguing--brittle and crystalline, like glass. Or > Glass. Oh, wow. Well, as a certified Meredith Monk fanatic :-), my favorite is Book of Days, but they're all good. I have almost everything she's ever released (still have to get new copies of her old Wergo recordings), and that is the one I listen to most and recommend to those starting out. I'm curious as to what you hear in her music as brittle, since I tend to hear it as organically flowing. BTW, her music is only half the story -- most of her work has been done as/for theatre or filmworks which are equally remarkable. Unfortunately, little has been seen here in DC. When I spoke to her last summer, the most recent performance had been a revival of "Quarry" in 1983 or so. And little of her work is available on video, though I do have two of her pieces, the aforementioned "Book of Days" and "Ellis Island", on laserdisc, which is the only way that they've been released. Peter Greenaway did a very good documentary on her for his "Four American Composers" series, which was remaindered a while back and shows up on eBay a lot. There's also an excellent book on her work, edited by Deborah Jowitt. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: Marla Tiara Subject: Re: Jeff Noon update... > I would have to echo this sentiment. I read Vurt, > Nymphomation, and > Pollen over the course of about a week in January. :) I read Vurt and Pollen long ago but thought those two plus Automated Alice were all he had written. Thanks to ectophiles, I tracked down almost all of the rest (I'm hesitant on Cobralingus...) Thank you all again! marla tiara ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Famous people wearing my tiara: http://www.marlatiara.com (*updated 01/23/01 - Emm Gryner!) "Give me action and drama, give me 80s Madonna" - Bis Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:07:47 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Meredith Monk At 12:04 PM -0800 2/11/01, Craig Gidney wrote: >Does anyone have recommendations for the Meredith Monk >Oeuvre -- a place to start? > >The bits and pieces of her work I've heard are >intriguing--brittle and crystalline, like glass. Or >Glass. All I can say is that my two favourites are _Book of Days_ and _Facing North_. I love this kind of experimental music, a la Anna Homler and Iva Bittova and frequently Sheila Chandra, but have trouble describing it. Mouth music, but not in the traditional music sense--though I love that, too. Anyway, I would recommend either of the above as a starting point for Meredith Monk. - --Neile - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:07:01 -0500 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: A little nostalgia A little off topic, I suppose, and definitely dating myself in more ways than one, but I just felt like dashing this one off. A piece of my concert-attending past disappeared today... not a particularly proud one, but one nonetheless. If you watched any U.S. news today you probably saw it too. Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh, imploded today. It was only 31 years old. It was a lousy venue for a concert (and apparently for football and baseball games too). But those of us old enough to remember big corporate stadium rock shows of the 70's have seen shows in 3 Rivers or structures like it. As I spent my teen years in the 'Burgh, I remember a few shows I saw there... if I can use that verb in the broadest sense. Led Zeppelin, Emerson Lake & Palmer, The Allman Brothers, Jethro Tull, among those that I remember (there may have been drugs there then, the list is... approximate). These shows were always more scene than music. Sitting in section 615,486, Row WWWW, seats 896 and 898... needing a Hubble telescope to see the faces of the bands. Didn't matter, they were a backdrop to the crowd dynamic, and an event to say that I was there. Just me and 70,000 of my closest friends whom I have no chance of recognizing again. Nowadays, we see acts in living rooms, where 2 dozen is considered a packed house. Much better, much less stressful, especially for those of us who are, unfortunately, old enough to remember the stupid things everybody did way back when. Recently we were discussing Roxy Music, and especially Brian Eno. I believe he predicted this back in the 70s, saying the future belonged to small, mobile, intelligent units. Good thing he was for the most part correct. As bad of a venue as it was, and as big a mistake the whole concept was, I still feel a little of the same bittersweetness that the sports fans feel. I never saw a football game there, and only a handful of baseball games. It's bizarre to see a structure that large, and that pervasive (to the city of Pittsburgh, anyway), be erected AND demolished in your lifetime. If you're into watching building demolition videos (and who isn't, really :) there's some good ones at http://thepittsburghchannel.com. The first one, complete with the countdown, live crowd cheers and fireworks is an especially bizarre slice of human behaviour. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:26:05 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Sarah Harmer (was Re: mary gauthier) At 01:31 PM 2/10/01 -0500, meredith wrote: >Last night the New Haven Folk Alliance brought Mary Gauthier to town >for the first time. I saw her last summer at Falcon Ridge and was >intrigued, and considered it a worthwhile reason to blow off Sarah >Harmer at the Iron Horse (NHFA obligations notwithstanding). She >certainly didn't disappoint. And while this was going on, woj, my friend Jennifer and I were at that very Sarah Harmer show! :) Damn she was good. The Iron Horse was packed to the rafters, and I'm sure everyone who came was really glad that they did. Sarah was joined by Kevin Fox on electric bass, cello and backing vocals, and... umm... the drummer whose name I'm forgotten on drums and occasionally electric guitar. They played a great set, with plenty of songs from You Were Here, plus a Weeping Tile song ("Good Fortune"), and some new ones (one so new it didn't even have a name yet). The highlight of the evening for me was when the last song of the regular set turned out to be "Lodestar," which is easily my favorite of her songs. Sarah was in high spirits throughout the show, and really seemed to be enjoying herself, which is always great to see. Anyway, it was a great show, and I strongly urge all the ectophiles out there to take advantage of any chance they might have to catch Sarah live. Michael np: Cowboy Junkies -- Pale Sun, Crescent Moon nr: Burning Bright by Melissa Scott ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #45 *************************