From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V7 #14 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, January 14 2001 Volume 07 : Number 014 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ecto Deam/Happy Dreams [Andrew Fries ] RE: Ecto Dream/Happy Dreams [Kay S Cleaves ] Re: 2000 -- my tuppence worth (again) [superdamonal speed ] Re: Classic instrumental openings that define songs ["Michael Pearce" ] Re: New Rachael Sage album? [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:19:11 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Ecto Deam/Happy Dreams On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, meredith wrote: > Ah yes, ectophile dreams. In which we attend concerts that haven't > happened yet, and probably never will (such as my personal favorite, the > one where I spent the night attending a Jane Siberry show on the moon). OK this might not be totally Ecto, but still it's an honour that's hard to beat: the Beatles themselves (yes all four, John was around as well) once invited me to sit in on a jam session. They seemed rather impressed with my guitar work though I notice they failed to ask if I'd like to join permanently... oh well... PS. When awake, I cannot play any instrument at all. - ------------------------------------------------------ "The Optimist proclaims we live in the best of all possible worlds. The Pessimist fears this is true" - James Branch Cabell - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/spot.php3 ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:27:57 -0600 From: Kay S Cleaves Subject: RE: Ecto Dream/Happy Dreams But when she put on the red shoes, did her dream come true? Or did she dance like Gabrielle upon the rocks? - -----Paul Blair wrote------ - - ---- Joseph Zitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 11:11:46PM -0600, tenthvictim@mindspring.com wrote: > > > The last thing I remember about the dream was > > stopping by the table at which Happy sat, feeling > > like I had to say something to Happy. I noticed > > she had on some very nice shoes and I think I > > joked with her about how she had on her good > > shoes for the tornado. And so ended the dream. > > I suspect that ruby slippers would be the best > shoes for a dream tornado. Couldn't have been. She'd already cast aside the red shoes to get past the Prey of the Strange. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 05:12:50 -0500 From: superdamonal speed Subject: Re: 2000 -- my tuppence worth (again) offtopic, of course meredith wrote: > > Hi! > > Adam opined: > > >6)Radiohead -- "Kid A" -- my mental jury has been out so long on this one, I > >might have to call it a draw. Some beautiful moments, but the unmistakeable > >sound of a band disappearing up its own arse. > > That's hilarious. It pretty succinctly sums up most of the > reviews I've read of the album (though I must confess don't like Radiohead > in general so I haven't heard it myself). > > >The worst book I've read for a while was this year -- The > >Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson. I've been meaning to read it for a while, > had > >it hanging around, and after the brilliance of Jeff Noon's Manchester-based > >cyber-punk (Gibson meets Irving Walsh) thought I was ready for it. > >Exposition-laden, jargon heavy, meandering plot (or what served for one) -- > >all that's shite about sci-fi. Anorak stuff. > > Well, that just depends on what kind of style you're into. > "Exposition-laden, jargon heavy, meandering plot" is just what Stephenson > *does*, and you're either going to go for it or you're not. Personally I > love his smartass style, and I find that it's been getting better and > better as he's gone on. _Cryptonomicon_, which took me the entire summer > to wade through ended up being the most satisfying read of the past several > years. It got me interested in cryptography and the fascinating history of > it, as well as several facets of obscure WWII history I'd never given a > passing thought to before. And somewhere in the middle it contains a > several-page tangent on the correct way to eat Cap'n Crunch cereal, which > some may consider a waste of paper and ink, but in my view is a brilliant > (not to mention fall-down funny) bit of character exposition. _The Diamond > Age_ is a stepping stone on the way to that - I'll agree that it took me a > while to get into (it was the first Stephenson I read), and while he's > gotten a lot better at it, he still doesn't know how to *end* a story, but > I still enjoyed it quite a bit. It's just a matter of taste. > > Just had to chime in - can't sit by and let someone diss one of my favorite > writers. :) > it was my first stephenson too. i loved it. exposition laden is kinda odd, tho, because he rarely explains a lot of points. in fact, i'd say he's a lot like pynchon, for better or worse. since then, i've read his two previous, and am gearing up for crypt. as for the endings, again,t hat's a pynchon thing. like david wallace's infinite jest, which has the same likenesses. - -- Beware of the speeding nun! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:45:58 -0600 From: tenthvictim@mindspring.com Subject: Ecto Dreams and Various Synchronicities Hola, Did you guys know that if you play a video tape of _The Wizard of Oz_, cue up _Many Worlds Are Born Tonight_, and start the cd just as the MGM lion roars, that MWABT provides ironic musical comments on the actions in the film? In fact, when the image flashes by of the little person hanging from one of the trees in the anthropomorphic forest, Happy is at that exact moment intoning, "I know there's life beyond this black embrace...." Yes, the fantastic happenings over the rainbow are just the random misfirings of electrons in the failing circuits and byte-clogged brain of an ancient computer. Dorothy doesn't really wake up in Kansas, she gets put in a temporary file and vanishes when the computer hiccups and reboots. I purchased a cassette version of _Yes Years_ a couple of months ago and listened to it one day while I stayed home from work with the traditional woozy feeling. I spent the better part of the day reading the extensive liner notes. The family tree of the band should have Happy Rhodes somewhere along the bottom, what with her association with Marotta, Trey Gunn, and Ben Lozaga. In fact, a Yes/King Crimson/Happy Rhodes tour needs to happen soon. Happy would be the only one on stage not using a walker. Now I wish I had the CD version of the album, but probably wouldn't have got it for the five dollars I spent on the cassettes. I'm always amazed at Chris Squire's bass playing. Steve Howe is pretty fine on the guitar, too. Bye, Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:43:21 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Ecto Dreams and Various Synchronicities On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 10:45:58AM -0600, tenthvictim@mindspring.com wrote: > Lozaga. In fact, a Yes/King Crimson/Happy Rhodes tour needs to happen soon. > Happy would be the only one on stage not using a walker. Certainly you know that the lineups of Yes and King Crimson have rotated over the years and that some members of each are somewhat closer to Happy's own age than you may think. And I would have loved to have been in as good shape in my twenties as the ostensibly antiquated Tony Levin, for example, is now.... - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:06:08 -0700 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Margot O'Breslin Could the person who had trouble ordering Margot's disc send me a note. I didn't save the note from last year, and don't feel like trying to find it in the archives. neal np: an homage to Victoria Williams on KUNM ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 2001 16:54:46 -0800 From: "Michael Pearce" Subject: Re: Classic instrumental openings that define songs >So that's what I want to throw out for more examples from y'all. >Hits or even non-hits from the past that had classic instrumental >openings that pretty much defined the song. An opening 15 to 20 >seconds of instrumental that is easily recognizable and get's your >juices flowing. > >I know there's tons more, and I know there's many of you out there >that was exposed to the music of many moons ago...can't wait to see >what might get offered up. Best knockout instrumental opening that led to one of the worst songs ever written" "Spirit In The Sky" by the guy I can't remember at all. The lyrics sucked bigtime, but even the music degenerated after the brilliant fuzztone opening. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 20:46:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Subject: Life imitates ecto products? Today I happened to notice that a toothbrush given me by the hygenist at a cleaning some time ago was of the Crest DEEP SWEEP brand. Is the spirit of my old Ecto Product File alive and well and living in the real world? :-) Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:19:22 -0500 From: meredith Subject: a couple things Hi! A couple quick notes: - -- Dar Williams did a taping for the CBS Sunday Morning show today, that is scheduled to air tomorrow (Sunday), 1/14. - -- I saw a preview today for a movie called _The Claim_, which has Milla Jovovich in a rather prominent role. It's based on the book by Thomas Hardy, and stars Wes Bentley (from _American Beauty_). I'm usually not into that sort of thing, but it might be worth it to see Milla again. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:51:15 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: New Rachael Sage album? Hi! Ian inquired: >Is that actually out yet, or do you just have nefarious ways of >hearing it before mere mortals? :) I must admit to nefarious ways. :} It'll be out in March, I believe. I'm only on first listen, but I can pretty safely say that if you like what Rachael's been doing, you're gonna *love* this. Very tasty stuff. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V7 #14 *************************