From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #352 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, November 23 2000 Volume 06 : Number 352 Today's Subjects: ----------------- More covers, I'm cold! [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: More covers, I'm cold! [Amanda Williams ] Covers, of course [Dennis G Parslow ] Re: Death Penalty [indedamon 2000 ] Re: Death Penalty ["Robert Lovejoy" ] emm gryner ["Suzanna Otting" ] Re: covers [GSS ] covers... [Marla Tiara ] Re: Death Penalty [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: More covers, I'm cold! [drop the holupki ] Concert Alert ["Tom Masapollo" ] Re: covers [Laura Clifford ] Van Zandt covers ["Cheri Villines" ] Re: worst covers [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] Re: [twilightml] Middle Pillar Presents an evening of music [Craig Gidney] Re: bad covers [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] Re: Death Penalty [Joseph Zitt ] suddenly, tammy! snippet [drop the holupki ] Re: Happy Rhodes and Projekt ["Tom Masapollo" ] Re: Happy Rhodes and Projekt ["ReNeEz DaBoMb" ] RE: covers ["Michael Pearce" ] RE: covers [Greg Dunn ] A few more covers that occurred to me.. [dave ] For a few covers more.. [Phil Hudson ] Re: More covers, I'm cold! [Anthony Kosky ] RE: covers [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:20:27 -0600 (CST) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: More covers, I'm cold! Hi, Buddy Holly's Not Fade Away was played by the GDead bi-weekly. Quite a number of other bands recorded it, too. Bo Diddly has been covered a lot. In 1969 or 70, Quicksilver Messenger Service did Who Do You Love live for a side of an lp. Ellis McDaniels?? In the mid 60's, you weren't a band unless you did Hey, Joe! I remember at least 3 bands that did it fast and Music Machine(Talk Talk) did it long and slow. Dusty Springfield wrote Betty Davis Eyes. Ralph Towner wrote Icarus, which I believe was the first song played on the moon, was been redone by RT and Gary Burton, done by both Oregon and Paul Winter Consort, and by Synergy (Electronic Music). (Pant pant) I'm too old for this....bye, Gee, they never covered Judy In Disguise! Shucks! At least I didn't mention Louie, Louie. mumble, mumble... KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:54:03 +1100 (EST) From: Amanda Williams Subject: Re: More covers, I'm cold! On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, kerry white wrote: > Hi, Buddy Holly's Not Fade Away was played by the GDead bi-weekly. > Quite a number of other bands recorded it, too. > > Bo Diddly has been covered a lot. In 1969 or 70, Quicksilver Messenger > Service did Who Do You Love live for a side of an lp. Ellis McDaniels?? > > In the mid 60's, you weren't a band unless you did Hey, Joe! I > remember at least 3 bands that did it fast and Music Machine(Talk Talk) > did it long and slow. > > Dusty Springfield wrote Betty Davis Eyes. > > Ralph Towner wrote Icarus, which I believe was the first song played > on the moon, was been redone by RT and Gary Burton, done by both Oregon > and Paul Winter Consort, and by Synergy (Electronic Music). > > (Pant pant) I'm too old for this....bye, > > Gee, they never covered Judy In Disguise! Shucks! At least I didn't > mention Louie, Louie. mumble, mumble... One thing that I have been listening today is Liz Fraser's cover of 'Another Day' for This Mortal Coil. I recently got to watch the original song featuring very youngPeter Gabriel and Kate on the Lovehounds Collection video thanks to a trading buddy in Japan. One thing my husband observed was that the cover is heavily forcibly subdued (as in the mixing is done like that) whereas in the original version, Peter and Kate were able to get the right tone exactly without any mixing whatsoever. amanda ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ooooooooooooooooooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ '"Must!" Is "must" a word to be addressed to princes? Little man, little man! Thy father, if he had been alive, durst not have used that word.' - -Elizabeth I to Robert Cecil, on being asked to name her successor while on her deathbed (well death cushions, really :) _________________________________________________________________________ Amanda Williams ph(m)0417 503 130 (w) +61 3 9607 9350 fax +61 3 9607 9449 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:48:25 -0500 (EST) From: Dennis G Parslow Subject: Covers, of course I had forgotten Proud Mary, an outstanding job indeed. Someone mentioned Devo's Can't Get No Satisfaction, another classic. I had forgotten (from my first post) the Cowboy Junkies "Blue Moon - Elvis revisited), and The Bobs, home of several unique covers. I had also forgotten the Sgt Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band (movie), which was chock full of (mostly) wonderful covers, including Steve Martin's Maxwell's Silver Hammer, Aerosmith's Come Together, etc. As far as defining? My buddy fell over when he heard me say (hearing this Lou Reed guy covering the Cowboy Junkies Sweet Jane) "This is such a bizarre version!" (oops) Half the fun of many movies these days is waiting for some odd cover to show up. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 04:11:25 -0500 From: indedamon 2000 Subject: Re: Death Penalty Robert Lovejoy wrote: > > I agree with Happy (from Warpaint "To Live In Your World"): It isn't > justice; it's revenge. > As a person who has a Buddhist son, I see no logic in taking life. when you meet the buddha, kill the buddha. > When a person makes a decision to kill someone, either premeditated or > spontaneous, they are being totally selfish. It strikes me that life has > its own way of dealing with evil souls, and to murder a murderer is only > returning some of the karma he owes. It would be better for us to give > murderers a lifetime to reflect upon the evil they have done rather than > make them victims of the state. We don't need more victims. > Days ago I posted what I believe is the meaning of our lives on this > planet - the orientation decision. We spend lifetimes coming to grips with > the decision to serve others or serve ourselves. serving oneslef is serving others. It is obvious that the > criminal element is purely the service-to-self crowd, and murderers are the > most violent of the vile. Then there are those whose lives shine with > giving - Mother Theresa, the Dalai Lama, Jesus - who teach by example that > the path to happiness lies in making others happy. Most souls are in the > middle, of course, but as we evolve it becomes apparent what our orientation > will be. If most everything you do is designed to boost yourself, you are > in the Service to Self orientation and it's not a pretty road to walk. If > you make a point to think of others needs and feelings more than half the > time, you are likely to be in the Service to Others Orientation, and on the > path to enlightenment. serving oneself does not mean one loses empathy, a true narcissist would lack the anger involved in murder. > Those who trod the path of selfishness will get their due, and it's not > up to us to be their ultimate judges. Prisons are full of self serving > people, and that is where they belong. It is worth noting that society's > definitions of criminal do not always meet the Truth, as there are a lot > of - too many, in fact - political prisoners and prisoners of conscience. I > disagree with New York Mayor Giuliani's concept that pot smokers belong in > jail. If the law is to be respected, it must realize a soul's orientation. > If no harm is being done to others, incarceration is wrong. murderers can get out before pot growers. - -- "Neither Bush nor Gore is President. As reassuring as that is, it can't last." Bill Maher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:01:40 -0500 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Re: Death Penalty - ----- Original Message ----- From: "indedamon 2000" > when you meet the buddha, kill the buddha. Wow, there's an enlightened first step. Thanks for your compassion. It's no wonder our society is so bent. > serving oneslef is serving others. Yep, and freedom is slavery. I remember this doublespeak from Brave New World. > > serving oneself does not mean one > loses empathy, a true narcissist would lack > the anger involved in murder. Narciisism and selfishness are different things. > > murderers can get out before pot growers. And that stinks! Seriously, I've really gotten some cynical, cold responses to my posting. All I can say is I'm sorry we disagree. Who's to say who is right or wrong? I have to live by my own beliefs, and everyone else should be free to live by theirs as long as no one else gets hurt by them. If compassion and care for others is a bad thing in your eyes, I'm really sorry for you as a human being, but that's just me. Kind wishes, Robert Lovejoy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:06:33 -0800 From: "Suzanna Otting" Subject: emm gryner Hey all, Emm Gryner has been mentioned effusively a couple times...I'm not very familiar with her music, but while browsing at a used music store, I picked up a promo cassette called "Public Speaking Words and Music". It has a few interview clips interspersed with song clips. I picked it up for about twenty five cents, so if there's an Emm Gryner fanatic out there who would desperately like to have it, email me and I'll send it to you. :) That's all! Suzanna Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:06:17 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: covers I didn't want to do this, but I'm bored and all the girls have left the lab, so here it goes. Besides Bob Dylan, Townes Van Zandt may be the most covered artist ever. Hell, he may be more covered than Dylan. He is also one of my favorites. This list does not even scratch the surface and I only included artists that I thought most would recognize. Cowboy Junkies Lament-Cowboy Junkies To Live Is To Fly-Cowboy Junkies White Freightliner Blues-Karen Abrahams Pancho And Lefty-Hoyt Axton Tecumseh Valley-Bobby Bare White Freightliner Blues-Bobby Bare Rex's Blues-Emmylou Harris & Jack Elliot To Live Is To Fly-Emmylou Harris & Guy Clark If I Needed You-Emmylou Harris & Don Williams Don't You Take It Too Bad-Guy Clark I'll Be Here In The Morning- Mark Dvorak Pancho and Lefty-Bob Dylan Pancho and Lefty-Willie Nelson Pancho and Lefty-Merle Haggard Pancho and Lefy-Emmylou Harris Pancho and Lefty-Willie Nelson & Bob Dylan Pancho and Lefty-Willie Nelson & Merle Haggard Tecumseh Valley-Steve Earle White Freightliner Blues-Steve Earle Dollar Bill Blues-David Elias White Freightliner-Jimmy Dale Gilmore Flyin' Shoes-Lyle Lovett Highway Kind-Lyle Lovett If I Needed You-Lyle Lovett Lungs-Lyle Lovett If I Needed You-Delbert McClinton & Jonell Mosser gss np-Rear View Mirror, Townes Van Zandt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:12:47 -0800 (PST) From: Marla Tiara Subject: covers... One cover I haven't seen mentioned yet that I love is Cub's cover of the GoGos Vacation. Ah, and I also love They Might Be Giants' cover of Cub's New York City, now that I think of it. I also have a CD that is all indie bands doing 80's covers - there's a very cute version of Together Forever by the Softies on there that kicks Rick Astley's skinny behind ;) And I also love Dinosaur Jr's Just Like Heaven (off another compilation) and someone mentioned Rubyait - yeah, pretty bad but I like the short short version of the Cure doing Hello I Love You. ;) And Tori Amos can cover just about anything (except Losing My Religion - ugh) and I'd be happy. I wish she'd cover a Radiohead song... marla tiara ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Famous people wearing my tiara: http://www.marlatiara.com (*updated 9/21/00 - All pictures active!) "I will always love you like a milkshake." - Wesley Willis Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:12:19 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Death Penalty Robert Lovejoy sez: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "indedamon 2000" > >> when you meet the buddha, kill the buddha. > > > Wow, there's an enlightened first step. Thanks for your compassion. It's > no wonder our society is so bent. Uh, actually, that *is* the enlightened first step, and a paraphrase of the saying of Lin Chi, zen master, who said, "If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha. If you meet a Patriarch, kill the Patriarch." Nevermind the broader implications of the saying (reality is internal, not external, etc., etc.) -- for someone who professes strong belief in reincarnation, why does this expression seem so nasty to you? jeff n.p. _Pieces of You_, Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:12:13 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: More covers, I'm cold! when we last left our heroes, Amanda Williams exclaimed: >One thing that I have been listening today is >Liz Fraser's cover of 'Another Day' for This Mortal Coil. >I recently got to watch the original song featuring very youngPeter >Gabriel and Kate on the Lovehounds Collection video thanks to a trading >buddy in Japan. actually, "another day" was written by roy harper and appears on his 1970 album _flat baroque and berzerk_. there's a mp3 sample of the original on roy's website at . woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:32:55 -0500 From: "Tom Masapollo" Subject: Concert Alert For those Ectos in the Philadelphia area: Some upcoming concerts at the Tin Angel: 11/30 Phil Roy 12/7 Sarah Harmer 12/8 Evan Dando 12/15 Over the Rhine 12/7 PJ Harvey (at the TLA) Also Robert Fripp Soundscapes November 28th, 29th, 30th, 2000 at 12:15pm and 6:30pm World Financial Center - Winter Garden Atrium 200 Liberty Street, New York, NY ____________________________________ Tom Masapollo Haddon Heights, NJ PH: 1-800-732-6868 x230 E-mail: masapollo@moorestown.tt.slb.com _____________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:44:25 -0500 From: Laura Clifford Subject: Re: covers At 03:56 PM 11/21/2000 -0800, Michael Pearce wrote: >Many of my favorite covers right now are all coming from the same >woman: Vonda Shepard. Although she is an extremely talented >songwriter (get her CD "It's Good Eve" to hear the best), she is >known mostly for all the cover songs she does on Ally McBeal. > >My favorite of the lot was her version of Roy Orbison's "Crying." >Hardly anyone has ever been able to cover anything by Roy >successfully Actually, while it's technically not a cover (or is it?) - I just adore the duet of Roy and k.d. lang on "Crying." Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:54:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Cheri Villines" Subject: Van Zandt covers > Besides Bob Dylan, Townes Van Zandt may be the most covered artist > ever. Hell, he may be more covered than Dylan. He is also one of my > favorites. Recently caught a rerun of the Austin City Limits tribute show for TVZ. Really wonderful. > Tecumseh Valley-Steve Earle White Freightliner Blues-Steve And my favorite version of this song, by Nancy Griffith. Cheri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:04:28 EST From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: Re: worst covers I have a couple here..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:04:32 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Re: [twilightml] Middle Pillar Presents an evening of music Hey: Is anyone in the NYC area going to this? I going to NYC on the weekend of Dec 1 to visit friends and attending. Please email me off list if you want to meet. Thanks, Craig - --- Middle Pillar wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > We at Middle Pillar Presents are putting together a > evening of music > performance that would feature not only Middle > Pillar bands but others that > fit the styles and genres that this list is > dedicated to. It would be an > unfixed event, appearing in different cities > sponsered by us and other > promoters that we work with. > > So with that as an inspiration (and because nothing > else sounds good!) we > were thinking of using the title Twilight Festival > 2000 in honor of the > music we so love. In no way is this insinuating any > endorsement or > connection with the Twilight List but we thought > we'd run it by everybody in > case anyone objected. > > Doesn't anyone have any thoughts on the subject? Is > this cool? > Does anyone have a better name? > > Our first evening is December 2nd at Batcave > (Downtime, New York City) > The night's performances include > The Machine in the Garden (from Texas) > The Mirror Reveals > Thread > and (hopefully) the delightful Mistress McCutchan > will be spinning tunes during the evening. > > This will coincide with the record release of OUT OF > THE MISTS by The > Machine in the Garden, an enhanced CD which features > the music video for the > single The Unaware. There will be free promotional > goodies and fun for all! > > Hope to hear from you, > James@middlepillar.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > M I D D L E P I L L A R P R E S E N T S > ETHEREAL/AMBIENT/EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC > http://www.middlepillar.com/mpp - > James@middlepillar.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own > public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ===== Craig L. Gidney http://profiles.yahoo.com/quisquose11 Reviews of books and music, http://www.egroups.com/group/Ethereality Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:17:21 EST From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: Re: bad covers Alright, I apologize for the last email, I accidently hit enter when I didn't mean to. But at any rate, here are my picks for worst covers.... Madonna "American Pie" (Don McLean) Even if you like Madonna you have to admit, this was pretty weak. Her voice sounds monitone and unimaginitive, and the disco beat just butchers the song. Plus, the original was so brilliant, that just rubs salt in the wound.... Nirvana U.K. "Lithium" (Nirvana) This is an interesting story. Back in the 60's, years before there was grunge, there was a U.K. psychedelic group called Nirvana. Anyways, they broke up in the 1970's, and then when Nirvana got big in the early 90's they were hit by a lawsuit from these guys. But once everything was settled, and the original Nirvana reunited for a reunion album, they actually recorded "Lithium". It really wasn't very good. Not to say Nirvana U.K. wasn't a good band, but their cover of 'Lithium" was just a bit grand and spacey for that song. But oh well. Later Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:36:55 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Death Penalty On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:01:40AM -0500, Robert Lovejoy wrote: > Yep, and freedom is slavery. I remember this doublespeak from Brave New > World. Hmmm, I remember it from 1984. (I got into a weird argument with a teacher when we read Brave New World in high school. She was pushing it as a dystopia, whereas I thought that world seemed like a pretty cool, pretty comfortable place. I'm much better now.) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:00:45 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: suddenly, tammy! snippet despite having too many albums that i should be listening to, i've been listening to wfmu over the net pretty much exclusively during the day (except when there are good shows on wpkn of course). good thing i was today since irwin chusid today played a song from the unreleased third suddenly, tammy! record. it was called "runaway" and was quite nice. when back-announcing irwin mentioned that the album is titled _comet_ and that he was hoping to get beth sorrentino into the studio to play live sometime. irwin's shows are archived at . they are in realaudio format. the current show, of course, is not up there yet, but i think they usually appear within a couple days. he played it around the 1:30 mark of the three hour program. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:53:12 -0500 From: "Tom Masapollo" Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes and Projekt Good Idea.......... I know Sam (not real well) through Black Tape for a Blue Girl,etc. Most of the groups on Projekt are usually of the dark, ethereal, brooding nature and I enjoy most of them. On some other website, Happy was referred to as "the Queen of Goth" or something. Perhaps, this is the foot in the door for getting on the Projekt label?? I'm sure that Sam would welcome her. While we're on the subject of Projekt, are there any Black Tape, Lycia, or Love Spirals Downward fans out there? later, tom m. At 11/21/00 02:12 PM Tuesday, canetoad@panix.com wrote: >What about Projekt? Happy doesn't exactly fit into the stereotypical >"darkwave" mold, but then neither do Area or many other artists who >show up in the Projekt catalog. > >Sam Rosenthal seems very accessible, and I bet he'd listen to a CD or >tape sampler if sent one. > > - Larne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:03:49 -0500 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Re: Death Penalty - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Zitt" To: "Robert Lovejoy" Cc: "indedamon 2000" ; Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:36 AM Subject: Re: Death Penalty > On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:01:40AM -0500, Robert Lovejoy wrote: > > > Yep, and freedom is slavery. I remember this doublespeak from Brave New > > World. > > Hmmm, I remember it from 1984. At my age I was lucky to remember it at all! I think I read those books within weeks of each other... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:22:17 -0600 From: "ReNeEz DaBoMb" Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes and Projekt I don't think Happy is the type of artist to be on Projekt. She's not really goth. Although Steve Roach is on the label... maybe she should shoot for Real World (you know, Peter Gaberial's (spelling?) label?).. who knows... ~Renee - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Tom Masapollo" Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:53:12 -0500 Good Idea.......... I know Sam (not real well) through Black Tape for a Blue Girl,etc. Most of the groups on Projekt are usually of the dark, ethereal, brooding nature and I enjoy most of them. On some other website, Happy was referred to as "the Queen of Goth" or something. Perhaps, this is the foot in the door for getting on the Projekt label?? I'm sure that Sam would welcome her. While we're on the subject of Projekt, are there any Black Tape, Lycia, or Love Spirals Downward fans out there? later, tom m. At 11/21/00 02:12 PM Tuesday, canetoad@panix.com wrote: >What about Projekt? Happy doesn't exactly fit into the stereotypical >"darkwave" mold, but then neither do Area or many other artists who >show up in the Projekt catalog. > >Sam Rosenthal seems very accessible, and I bet he'd listen to a CD or >tape sampler if sent one. > > - Larne - -- ThIs Is WhY pEoPle Od On PiLlS, aNd JuMp FrOm ThE gOlDeN gAtE bRiDgE... aNy ThInG tO fEeL wEiGhTlEsS aGaIn! - -- ------------------------------ Date: 22 Nov 2000 14:40:15 -0800 From: "Michael Pearce" Subject: more covers Remembered a few more of my faves: Debbie Harry, "Follow Me" by Lerner & Lowe (Can recording a Broadway "Standard" be considered a cover?) Sky Cried Mary, "2,000 Light Years From Home" (Stones) Lani Hall, "Sun Down" which spawned the worst cover ever, "Muskrat Love." This thread could go on so long it would be at risk of violating Godwin's Law. It sure would be fun to recreate the Ecto Taping Project and create a few tapes full of cool and obscure covers. Michael ------------------------------ Date: 22 Nov 2000 14:48:15 -0800 From: "Michael Pearce" Subject: RE: covers At 1:55 AM -0500 11/22/00,Loretta Pontillo wrote: >that rock-n-roll version of Joni's "Woodstock." I think it was CSNY. I LOVE >Joni's version, but the ?CSNY? version is much more famous among the general >population ("you mean Joni Mitchell wrote that song? Isn't she the one who >sings that song about the parking lot?") and it's a very interesting take on >the song. I think I like Joni's version better. :) Me too, by far. Which reminds me of the Jefferson Starship's cover of CSNY's "Wooden Ships." When Grace sings it, you somehow believe it. It was on the crossover album "Blows Against The Empire" which was the last of the Airplane sound just before the group evolved into a commercial-grade metal band. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:16:05 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: RE: covers >Which reminds me of the Jefferson Starship's cover of CSNY's "Wooden >Ships." When Grace sings it, you somehow believe it. It was on the >crossover album "Blows Against The Empire" which was the last of the >Airplane sound just before the group evolved into a commercial-grade >metal band. OK, really reaching back here... Has anyone but me heard the instrumental medley of "Wooden Ships / Dharma For One" turned out by The Ides Of March? It was on their first album, "Vehicle", and it's really a pretty cool arrangement. One would never think that CSNY and Tull would mix, but I quite like this particular track. (Extra points: What was the Ides' second album called? :-) - -- | Greg Dunn | The reason they call television | | gregdunn@indy.net | a "medium" is that it's neither | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | rare, nor well done. | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | - Ernie Kovacs | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:14:36 -0500 From: dave Subject: A few more covers that occurred to me.. A defining one... Three Dog Night's cover of Argent's 'Liar' which I was reminded of the other day when I heard the KISS version of 'God Gave Rock and Roll to You' in that Bill and Ted movie. Also, on the latest Sarah Brightman CD, La Luna, she covers Procul Harem's 'Whiter Shade of Pale', and Dido's 'Here With Me'. Scarborough Fair is also on there, dunno if that counts as a cover though, since it's a traditional song. I think the version of Whiter Shade of Pale I like the most was actually done by 'Hagar, Schon, Aaronson, Shrieve' with Sammy Hagar on vocals and Neal Schon of Journey on guitar. - -- dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:40:36 -0800 From: Phil Hudson Subject: For a few covers more.. There is also the wonderfully ethereal version of Whiter Shade by Annie Lennox. P - -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:sspan@magpage.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:15 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: A few more covers that occurred to me.. A defining one... Three Dog Night's cover of Argent's 'Liar' which I was reminded of the other day when I heard the KISS version of 'God Gave Rock and Roll to You' in that Bill and Ted movie. Also, on the latest Sarah Brightman CD, La Luna, she covers Procul Harem's 'Whiter Shade of Pale', and Dido's 'Here With Me'. Scarborough Fair is also on there, dunno if that counts as a cover though, since it's a traditional song. I think the version of Whiter Shade of Pale I like the most was actually done by 'Hagar, Schon, Aaronson, Shrieve' with Sammy Hagar on vocals and Neal Schon of Journey on guitar. - -- dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: Anthony Kosky Subject: Re: More covers, I'm cold! woj wojjed: > >One thing that I have been listening today is > >Liz Fraser's cover of 'Another Day' for This Mortal Coil. > >I recently got to watch the original song featuring very youngPeter > >Gabriel and Kate on the Lovehounds Collection video thanks to a trading > >buddy in Japan. > > actually, "another day" was written by roy harper and appears on his 1970 > album _flat baroque and berzerk_. there's a mp3 sample of the original on > roy's website at . > Quite right too. And much better than the covers it is. Since it's come up, perhaps it's a good time to mention that Roy's album, The Green Man, is available through that same web site and is the best thing he's done in ages. Or that his 1980 album The Unknown Soldier, which features a duet with Kate Bush, has finally been reissued on CD, and is available mail-order only from that same web site. Where was I? Ah yes, covers. My choice for most original interpretation would be The Bobs cover of Leonard Cohen's Bird on a Wire. They described their version as a Surf/Death-metal/A-capella intepretation. I'm not sure how this could come accross on album, but I saw them perform it at one of their shows a long time ago, and it was easily the most strange Leonard Cohen intepretation I've heard. The Bobs are an a capella group that do a lot of strange covers, as well as original songs. At a more recent concert I recall them performing The Doors' Light My Fire as a sixteenth century madrigal. And their version of Psycho-killer, though less bizarre, I think is an improvement on the original. Well worth seeing if you get the chance. (see www.bobs.com). Happy Turkeys, - -Anthony Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 00:53:05 -0600 (CST) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: RE: covers Hi, A) Wooden Ships wasn't on Blows Against The Empire, it was on Volunteers. B) The song was written by CS and Paul Kantner who had bad problems with his record company and had to keep his name off it. Is it still a cover if both groups had a part in writing it? I have (somewhere) a mono video of Crosby, Stills and Grace Slick doing it live on G Nash's TV show. bye, KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #352 **************************