From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #346 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, November 18 2000 Volume 06 : Number 346 Today's Subjects: ----------------- covers [anna maria "stjärnell" ] susan mckeown tour dates [Jeffrey Burka ] RE: OT: Death Penalty (was Re: erection/election, you decide) [GSS ] Re: Death Penalty ["Robert Lovejoy" ] bend over, tiny dancer [GSS ] Re: OT: Death Penalty (was Re: erection/election, you decide) [Joseph Zit] Re: covers [Joseph Zitt ] Re: susan mckeown tour dates [Joseph Zitt ] Happy's split from Samson ["Mieu d'Iscalio Sedai" ] Re: covers [Joseph Zitt ] Re: covers [GSS ] Re: covers [Bill ] RE: covers ["Hotel America" ] Re: covers [Jeffrey Burka ] Covers [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: covers [Laura Clifford ] re: covers [Brian Bloom ] Re: covers [Joseph Zitt ] Favorite Covers [jjhanson@att.net] Re: Favorite Covers [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Covers [Ian Clysdale ] Re: Favorite Covers ["Tom Masapollo" ] Fwd: Re: Favorite Covers ["Tom Masapollo" ] Re: covers [Andrew Fries ] Re: covers [Marla Tiara ] RE: covers ["Suzanna Otting" ] OT: Death Penalty [Drew Harrington ] Re: covers ["Robert Lovejoy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 02:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: covers hi.. What do you think are the best cover versions ever done? My vote for all time goes to Tori for Smells Like Teen Spirit. This years faves include..McKinley's When Doves cry, Johnny Cash's Mercy Seat and David Gray's Say Hello Wave Goodbye..The Cat Power thing was a bit to dull for me. Anna Maria np-Voltaire-almost human Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:14:00 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: susan mckeown tour dates Susan has added a bunch of dates on her web page...might be worth a look if, as me, you were disappointed by the initial batch. Happily (and not just for me!) she'll be in DC on thursday, 12/14 at the Kennedy Center, playing the Millenium Stage at 6:00pm. This is a theater that offers free performances (and as far as I know, you don't need advance tickets either...). Most of the performances are also webcast, so it might be worth a look at their website... kennedy-center.org. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:11:33 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: RE: OT: Death Penalty (was Re: erection/election, you decide) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Phil Hudson wrote: > << Putting someone to death satisfies only our own personal selfish desires. > It changes nothing. >> > I do not believe this is true; what of felons who were released only to kill > again? Someone convicted of murder, except under very unusual circumstances, should never be let out of prison. They should spend the rest of their lives behind bars. But then so should most rapists and child molesters and some white color criminals, who for instance bilk elderly folks for their entire life savings or worse. Unfortunately, white color criminals normally get probation, as do the majority of rapists and child molesters. I believe that if an adult of sound mind kills someone maliciously, they should spend the rest of their life in jail. > A man called Larry Singleton raped a 15 year-old woman in the SF bay area > about 15 years ago, cut off both her forearms and left her to die in a > gully. > ( She survived, and later testified against him at a sentencing hearing for > ANOTHER murder he committed *after* being released from prison for his > crimes against her. ) > You cannot say "it changes nothing", if you really think it through, because > it changes a lot: the innocent person would still be alive and the guilty > one would not. No, that is incorrect. Singleton, did not kill the initial victim in this case. Therefore, he could not have been put to death, at least in the US. The problem here had both to do with the court system and the sentencing and with the parole and pardons board, being the fact that they released him to begin with. He should have been given a life sentence by the courts and then his case would never have come up for review. To me, a life sentence should mean just that, life with no chance for parole. > Let's face it; we're *not* created equal; some people are just plain and > simple factory rejects, and need to be returned to Mom. I understand what you are saying, but beauty is normally only skin deep, and I don't believe it is my position or yours to judge whether any person deserves to live or die, at least not at the hands of an executioner. > BTW, I used to be an opponent of the death penalty until I became a father; > I think a lot of peoples' views on this change radically with parenthood. > Once you have more than your own life and interests to protect, you tend to > get a little less tolerant and forgiving of the evil bastards and monsters > in the world. For me, it was just the opposite. gss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:48:18 -0500 From: Loretta Pontillo Subject: RE: covers Actually, I prefer Tori's cover of LZ's Thank You. it's absolutely gorgeous! It might be even better than the original. and for those of you on Napster, I think you should find and take a listen to Travis' cover of "Hit Me Baby One More Time." It makes it sound like a good song! And they keep laughing when they can't hit the high notes. And they're singing it all with a scottish accent -- "oh baby baby, ah shooodn't have lit yuuu goe...." When a cover can actually REDEEM a song for you a little, that's something. that's kind of what it is for Tori's SLTS. It makes it sound deep when she sings it. but my vote is still for "Thank You." wow. what a song. * -----Original Message----- * From: anna maria "stjdrnell [mailto:stjarnell@yahoo.com] * What do you think are the best cover versions ever * done? My vote for all time goes to Tori for Smells * Like Teen Spirit. This years faves include..McKinley's When Doves cry, * Johnny Cash's Mercy Seat and David Gray's Say Hello * Wave Goodbye..The Cat Power thing was a bit to dull * for me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:28:30 -0500 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Re: Death Penalty I agree with Happy (from Warpaint "To Live In Your World"): It isn't justice; it's revenge. As a person who has a Buddhist son, I see no logic in taking life. When a person makes a decision to kill someone, either premeditated or spontaneous, they are being totally selfish. It strikes me that life has its own way of dealing with evil souls, and to murder a murderer is only returning some of the karma he owes. It would be better for us to give murderers a lifetime to reflect upon the evil they have done rather than make them victims of the state. We don't need more victims. Days ago I posted what I believe is the meaning of our lives on this planet - the orientation decision. We spend lifetimes coming to grips with the decision to serve others or serve ourselves. It is obvious that the criminal element is purely the service-to-self crowd, and murderers are the most violent of the vile. Then there are those whose lives shine with giving - Mother Theresa, the Dalai Lama, Jesus - who teach by example that the path to happiness lies in making others happy. Most souls are in the middle, of course, but as we evolve it becomes apparent what our orientation will be. If most everything you do is designed to boost yourself, you are in the Service to Self orientation and it's not a pretty road to walk. If you make a point to think of others needs and feelings more than half the time, you are likely to be in the Service to Others Orientation, and on the path to enlightenment. Those who trod the path of selfishness will get their due, and it's not up to us to be their ultimate judges. Prisons are full of self serving people, and that is where they belong. It is worth noting that society's definitions of criminal do not always meet the Truth, as there are a lot of - too many, in fact - political prisoners and prisoners of conscience. I disagree with New York Mayor Giuliani's concept that pot smokers belong in jail. If the law is to be respected, it must realize a soul's orientation. If no harm is being done to others, incarceration is wrong. This is only the tip of the iceberg, but I wanted to jump in here and express my feelings on the matter while the thread was relatively fresh. Robert Lovejoy who wishes that more of the money this country is spending on building up its prison system would go towards education. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:39:14 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: bend over, tiny dancer It is getting worse. Want it to keep getting worse? Keep electing those lifetime politicians. Just keep it up and support the system. FBI Releases More Documents On Carnivore - Update By Brian Krebs, Newsbytes WASHINGTON, D.C., U.S.A., 16 Nov 2000, 5:14 PM CST The FBI released another batch of previously classified documents on its now infamous e-mail surveillance system, also known as "Carnivore." Among the 362 pages released today are documents that appear to indicate the FBI's surveillance device could trap more data than necessary, a suspicion widely held by a number of consumer and privacy groups since news of Carnivore broke earlier this year. "The information in today's packet seems to conflict with what the FBI said about how Carnivore collects information that's been filtered," said David Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), the group that filed the Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, which led a court to force the Justice Department to begin releasing the documents. The FBI has assured consumers and privacy groups that its e-mail surveillance system only traps messages that are specified under a court order. In a hearing before Congress on the matter, the FBI testified that the system only captures data that has been isolated by a software filter that "minimizes" collection and limits it to scope of information authorized under the court order. But according to several of the documents obtained today which document an early "real world" PC test of the system, Carnivore is "capable of capturing and archiving all traffic to the hard drive." Sobel said that admission seems to suggest that FBI's surveillance tool may in fact capture data that does not necessarily relate to the investigation at hand. "I always go into this process of getting these documents with the assumption that they're really going to raise questions and not give us answers," Sobel said. "But this clearly gives us some more questions." Pursuant to the court order, the FBI promised to release batches of records at 45-day intervals. This is the second such interval. The release of documents came in reply to a Freedom of Information Act request issued by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), which convinced a court to ask the FBI to make available information on the e-mail snooping device. According to documents posted on the Electronic Privacy Information Center's (EPIC) Web site, the Carnivore program began under the name "Omnivore" in February 1997, originally run on a Solaris X86 computer. That system was replaced two years later by Carnivore, which uses a Windows NT-based computer that attaches to an ISP's network to sift through incoming and outgoing traffic. In the last batch of 400 pages or so, the FBI had redacted or blackened out more than half of the content. Sobel said the latest batch seems to be less censored. But, he said, the FBI said it is anticipating the disclosure process would be completed by Dec. 1. "We have now received less than a 1000 pages," out of the total 3,000 documents the FBI said it had relating to Carnivore back in August. "I think that means they're going to end up withholding the bulk of it, because I can't believe within the next few weeks they're going to process a great number of additional documents," Sobel said. Today's disclosure comes just one day before an independent review team at the Illinois Institute of Technology Research Institute (IITRI) is expected to file a draft technical report on the Carnivore system. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and a number of privacy groups have declared the "independent review" a sham, noting that the IITRI review team members include a former Clinton administration policy advisor and a former Justice Department official. Several other members of the team have backgrounds with the National Security Agency. http://newsbytes.com/news/00/158282.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:28:57 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: OT: Death Penalty (was Re: erection/election, you decide) On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:33:11PM -0800, Phil Hudson wrote: > I think a lot of peoples' views on this change radically with parenthood. > Once you have more than your own life and interests to protect, you tend to > get a little less tolerant and forgiving of the evil bastards and monsters > in the world. In my experience, people who have chosen to have children get less tolerant of others, not because they have "more than [their] own life and interests to protect" but because their focus narrows more strictly onto their own interests and those of their family. It's no coincidence that the abrupt increase of interest in the self and one's immediate family over interest in community and the good of the world in general has closely corresponded to the second baby boom. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:00:07 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: covers On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:39:14AM -0800, anna maria stjdrnell wrote: > hi.. > What do you think are the best cover versions ever > done? My vote for all time goes to Tori for Smells > Like Teen Spirit. Just off the top of my head: Donna Summer: State of Independence (Jon Anderson/Vangelis) Jeff Buckley: Halleluyah (Leonard Cohen) 801: Tomorrow Never Knows (Beatles) This Mortal Coil: Song of the Siren (Tim Buckley) Miles Davis: Time After Time (Cyndi Lauper/Hooters) Naked City: Lonely Woman (Ornette Coleman) Frank Zappa: Stairway to Heaven (Led Zeppelin) Pulnoc: All Tomorrow's Parties (Velvet Underground) Meat Loaf: Presence of the Lord (Blind Faith) Talking Heads: Take Me to the River (Al Green) Happy Rhodes: Ashes to Ashes (David Bowie) Kate Bush: Candle in the Wind (Elton John) Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul: Caravan (Duke Ellington) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:03:40 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: susan mckeown tour dates On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 07:14:00AM -0500, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > Happily (and not just for me!) she'll be in DC on thursday, 12/14 at > the Kennedy Center, playing the Millenium Stage at 6:00pm. This > is a theater that offers free performances (and as far as I know, > you don't need advance tickets either...). Most of the performances > are also webcast, so it might be worth a look at their website... > kennedy-center.org. The webcasts are also archived. I've watched fun shows from the Neilds and the Kingston Trio there. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:57:57 -0800 From: "Mieu d'Iscalio Sedai" Subject: Happy's split from Samson I just finished reading her own account of it on her website. I haven't really been keeping up on news about her before that, other than the bits I've heard when I wasn't too busy to delete all the messages from this ML. I knew enough that Samson had dropped her. But knowing Happy's own feelings about this makes me feel... well, a lot of different emotions. It's one thing that they pretty much abandoned her, but the fact that they (or that one woman in marketing in particular) could have broken her creative spirit just makes me so sad and upset and even a bit angry. I'm not a musician, and I'm not a very good writer, but my creativity means a LOT to me. It's something integral to my identity, to my soul. It's my escape when the world gets a bit too stressful to handle. It's an emotional release for things I'm afraid to speak aloud. If someone told me it wasn't worth it for me to be writing at all, that my years of indulging in and developing my creativity have produced nothing but crap, I would be devastated. Partly because I'm a very emotionally sensitive person, but also because the whole PURPOSE of my writing and webpage work is to reveal to others the hidden side of my heart, the darker urges and shameful fears and strange imagination I've stifled out of fear of rejection and ridicule. I don't consider myself an ordinary person by far -- my beliefs about society make it difficult for me to make friends, and my imagination is perhaps much too active for my age - -- and what I've endured because of this in the past has made it extremely difficult to trust anybody. A very significant part of me would wither and possibly die if I was convinced that my creativity meant nothing. Yes, even if I've never finished a single decent piece of writing and my webpages remain in severe disarray. If expressing myself - -- my true self -- isn't an important thing, why should I bother talking at all? I tire often of playing the game of showing different faces to different people, depending on the situation. My imagination is where I can be ME, in all her ugliness and glory. Isn't that important? Shouldn't that be important to EVERYBODY? To me, the true criteria for good writing, good music, good art in general depends on how much of one's heart and soul the artist has put in his or her work. There's a big difference, to me, in people who use their creativity to garner attention and wealth, and people who use it to express to a larger audience what they could not say in simple words, in the hopes that they will connect with a soul who understands them. I listen to music for entertainment value, too, but music that truly inspires me is that which is true to the artist's heart. Music that I listen to not only for the sound of it but for the message that lies in every note and every word. Whether I buy their albums or not, it's always a time for mourning when musicians stops believing that their creativity is worth pursuing. So I hope that Happy Rhodes keeps making music for as long as she is able. It's obvious that music making is important to her no matter WHO likes it or not, so why should she give it up for a few people's opinions? Or even the opinion of the world? No matter who gives her negative criticism, there will always be people out there who understand and appreciate her message. It's been the same for me as I've struggled to develop an online presence that differs quite a bit from the pitiful self I dare to express in real life. There have been a lot of people who ignore or criticize or can't even find the message I'm trying to express, but I've also met a few very close, important people in my life - -- including the person I hope to live the rest of my life with. - -- Mieu Sedai of the Green Ajah http://ecstasy.simplenet.com/mieu/ aka the Dark Siren Sally d'Iscalio http://www.darksiren.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:21:30 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: covers On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 09:48:18AM -0500, Loretta Pontillo wrote: > and for those of you on Napster, I think you should find and take a listen > to Travis' cover of "Hit Me Baby One More Time." It makes it sound like a > good song! And, while you're at it, Mr. Bungle's version. (I actually like the song, and much of the stuff that's being written for the interchangeable teen acts nowadays. It's sorta like the writers have been disecting (sp?) ABBA songs for 20 years and have gotten them down to a science. But then, I also kinda liked Debbie Gibson...) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:12:27 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: covers Robyn Hitchcock - It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry (Dylan) gss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:03:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Subject: Re: covers The Carpenters' cover of "Don't cry for me Argentina". Happy's cover of "Ashes to ashes". 10,000 Maniacs' cover of "Peace train". Just to name a few of my favorites... - - Bill G. On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, anna maria stjdrnell wrote: > hi.. > What do you think are the best cover versions ever > done? My vote for all time goes to Tori for Smells > Like Teen Spirit. > This years faves include..McKinley's When Doves cry, > Johnny Cash's Mercy Seat and David Gray's Say Hello > Wave Goodbye..The Cat Power thing was a bit to dull > for me. > Anna Maria > np-Voltaire-almost human > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:31:25 EST From: "Hotel America" Subject: RE: covers I ADORE Tori's cover of "A Case of You". I'm a huge Joni fan now, but when I first heard the song I thought it was a Tori original. I like the fluidity of Tori's version, as opposed to the sort of bouncy feel of the original. Also, Jeff Buckley's version of "Lilac Wine" is to die for. And the recently released soundtrack to "Me, Myself and Irene" has a fun cover that Ben Folds Five (R.I.P.) did of the fantastic Steely Dan song "Barrytown". --Chuck >From: Loretta Pontillo >To: "'ecto@smoe.org'" >Subject: RE: covers >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:48:18 -0500 > >Actually, I prefer Tori's cover of LZ's Thank You. it's absolutely >gorgeous! >It might be even better than the original. > >and for those of you on Napster, I think you should find and take a listen >to Travis' cover of "Hit Me Baby One More Time." It makes it sound like a >good song! And they keep laughing when they can't hit the high notes. And >they're singing it all with a scottish accent -- "oh baby baby, ah >shooodn't >have lit yuuu goe...." When a cover can actually REDEEM a song for you a >little, that's something. that's kind of what it is for Tori's SLTS. It >makes it sound deep when she sings it. > >but my vote is still for "Thank You." wow. what a song. > >* -----Original Message----- >* From: anna maria "stjdrnell [mailto:stjarnell@yahoo.com] > >* What do you think are the best cover versions ever >* done? My vote for all time goes to Tori for Smells >* Like Teen Spirit. This years faves include..McKinley's When Doves cry, >* Johnny Cash's Mercy Seat and David Gray's Say Hello >* Wave Goodbye..The Cat Power thing was a bit to dull >* for me. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:07:11 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: covers Hotel America wrote: I ADORE Tori's cover of "A Case of You". I'm a huge Joni fan now, but when I first heard the song I thought it was a Tori original. I like the fluidity of Tori's version, as opposed to the sort of bouncy feel of the original. Count me as another fan of Tori's "A Case of You." There are some rather stunning covers on the _Sweet Relief_ album. One of my favorites, and for much the same reason, is Evan Dando's cover of "Frying Pan," which takes Vic William's weird, upbeat pop song and makes it this slow, pensive, and incredibly moving folk song. Wow. jeff n.p. _Hi[tm] How are you today?_, Ashley MacIssac ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:07:34 EST From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Covers Sarah McLachlan's cover of Joni Mitchell's "Blue" is one of my faves. I also love her version of Gordon Lightfoot's "Song for a Winter's Night". Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:47:38 -0500 From: Laura Clifford Subject: Re: covers At 02:39 AM 11/17/2000 -0800, you wrote: >hi.. >What do you think are the best cover versions ever >done? My vote for all time goes to Tori for Smells >Like Teen Spirit. I've always loved Roxy Music's cover of Lennon's "Jealous Guy." Happy's cover of "Brave Sir Robin" from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" (from the first Ectofest) is up there too ;-) Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:56:17 -0800 From: Brian Bloom Subject: re: covers I'm a "cover" junkie, and here are some of my favorites: Danielle Dax - Tomorrow Never Knows (Beatles) Age of Chance - Kiss (Art of Noise/Prince) School of Fish - Let's Pretend We're Married (Prince) Dream Academy - Please Please Please Let me Get what I want (Smiths, used in the Ferris Bueller movie) Holly McNarland - In the Air Tonight (Phil Collins) Ms. Jane (Featuring ATB) - It's A Fine Day (Opus 3) I have various and sundry other dance mix covers (like the Opus 3 one here) of people almost no-one has ever heard of remaking more popular dance tracks.. But I'm omitting them mostly due to their obscurity. :) moo. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:34:26 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: covers On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:56:17AM -0800, Brian Bloom wrote: > Ms. Jane (Featuring ATB) - It's A Fine Day (Opus 3) Which reminds me: Opus 3: I Talk to the Wind (King Crimson) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:36:42 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Favorite Covers Hmm, good topic. I agree with many of the ones posted so far. Some of my favorites: Siouxsie and the Banshees - Dear Prudence (Beatles) Cassandra Wilson - You Don't Know What Love Is (so many have sung this but hers is the best) Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U (Prince) Haris Alexiou - (Loreena McKennittPseudo-cover: Haris wrote original Greek Lyrics where Loreena just went "na na na na na") Holly Cole - I Can See Clearly Now (forgot who did this originally) Tori Amos - Angie (Rolling Stones) Jeff Hanson n.p. The Nields - Play n.r. The White Bone - Barbara Gowdy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:12:15 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Favorite Covers On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 08:36:42PM +0000, jjhanson@att.net wrote: > Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U (Prince) > Holly Cole - I Can See Clearly Now (forgot who did > this originally) Johnny Nash. Which reminds me of yet another: Bob Belden (Holly Cole, vocals): The Question of U (Prince) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:31:47 -0500 From: Ian Clysdale Subject: Re: Covers > Sarah McLachlan's cover of Joni Mitchell's "Blue" is one of my faves. I also > love her version of Gordon Lightfoot's "Song for a Winter's Night". Actually, if we're talking about Joni covers... There was a tribute album put out quite a few years back of all Joni covers, called "Back to the Garden." As with most tribute albums, the quality was mixed at best, but it had a couple of excellent tracks. For me, definitely the standout track was Andy Stochansky's cover of "Beat of the Black Wings." That's got to qualify as one of the best covers that I've ever heard, hands down. ian. (n. p. Waterboys - This is the Sea) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:56:55 -0500 From: "Tom Masapollo" Subject: Re: Favorite Covers Jeff.......You hit some of mine for sure. How about: The Cure - Purple Haze (Jimi Hendrix) Echo & the Bunnymen - People are Strange (the Doors) Echo & the Bunnymen - Paint it Black (Rolling Stones) Sisters of Mercy - Gimme Shelter(Rolling Stones) *my favorite* Jimi Hendrix - Day Tripper (Beatles) Happy Rhodes - Running up the Hill (Kate Bush) Patti Smith - Gloria (Shadows of Knight) Brian Ferry - I Put a Spell on you (Screamin' Jay Hawkins) X - Soul Kitchen (the Doors) Ritchie Haven - Eleanor Rigby (Beatles) ps. covers are ok if they are done well. When they're not done well it can really kill your idea of what the original sounded like........ ____________________________________ Tom Masapollo Haddon Heights, NJ PH: 1-800-732-6868 x230 E-mail: masapollo@moorestown.tt.slb.com _____________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:59:49 -0500 From: "Tom Masapollo" Subject: Fwd: Re: Favorite Covers >Jeff.......You hit some of mine for sure. > >How about: >The Cure - Purple Haze (Jimi Hendrix) >Echo & the Bunnymen - People are Strange (the Doors) >Echo & the Bunnymen - Paint it Black (Rolling Stones) >Sisters of Mercy - Gimme Shelter(Rolling Stones) *my favorite* >Jimi Hendrix - Day Tripper (Beatles) >Happy Rhodes - Running up the Hill (Kate Bush) >Patti Smith - Gloria (Shadows of Knight) >Brian Ferry - I Put a Spell on you (Screamin' Jay Hawkins) >X - Soul Kitchen (the Doors) >Ritchie Haven - Eleanor Rigby (Beatles) > >ps. covers are ok if they are done well. When they're not done well it can > really kill your idea of what the original sounded like........ > > ____________________________________ Tom Masapollo Haddon Heights, NJ PH: 1-800-732-6868 x230 E-mail: masapollo@moorestown.tt.slb.com _____________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:38:57 EST From: "JoAnn Whetsell" Subject: covers just weighing in.. most of the covers i know, i've never heard the originals of (ie the 3 tori covers on the "crucify" single (angie, smells like teen spirit, and thank you.) but one i know is that i really love holly cole's cover of laura nyro's "sweet blindness." it becomes really dark and mysterious and sexy, and i like it better than laura's own bouncy version. overall, the whole time & love tribute is, imo, very good. i know it was discussed a while back. i like the instrumental of "upstairs by a chinese lamp" too, but i can't remember the singer, no, wait, it's leni stern. bye for now JoAnn _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:32:20 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: covers On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, anna maria stjdrnell wrote: >hi.. >What do you think are the best cover versions ever >done? My vote for all time goes to Tori for Smells >Like Teen Spirit. That is one of my favourites as well. Another one is The Sundays version of "Wild horses". The other two are obscure renditions of Joni Mitchel's classics: "Blue" sung by Angie Hart, and Peccadillo's version of "River". The first one was a b-side to one of Frente's singles, the other is especially close to my heart because it was never recorded, or at least never released anywhere... it is however permanently burned into my brain :) - ------------------------------------------------------ "The Optimist proclaims we live in the best of all possible worlds. The Pessimist fears this is true" - James Branch Cabell - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/spot.php3 ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:57:47 -0800 (PST) From: Marla Tiara Subject: Re: covers - --- JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > just weighing in.. > > most of the covers i know, i've never heard the > originals of (ie the 3 tori > covers on the "crucify" single (angie, smells like > teen spirit, and thank > you.) I'm just curious - are you really saying you've never heard Smells Like Teen Spirit or am I misunderstanding? :) marla tiara ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Famous people wearing my tiara: http://www.marlatiara.com (*updated 9/21/00 - All pictures active!) "I will always love you like a milkshake." - Wesley Willis Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:45:46 -0800 From: "Suzanna Otting" Subject: RE: covers - -- On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:31:25 Hotel America wrote: >I ADORE Tori's cover of "A Case of You". I'm a huge Joni fan now, but when >I first heard the song I thought it was a Tori original. I like the >fluidity of Tori's version, as opposed to the sort of bouncy feel of the >original. Does anyone know where I can get a CD that includes this song? Better yet, would anyone like to be my friend and put it on a tape for me? I'm a big Tori fan, but unfortunately I don't have the income to collect all of the import singles, etc. :) And I don't have my own computer, so MP3s aren't an option. I love the song "A Case of You"...Caroline Lavelle's version was the first time I heard it, and I recommend her album Spirit if for that alone. Suzanna Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:01:07 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Harrington Subject: OT: Death Penalty Maybe I'm an idealist, but I believe a society should set an example of the rules it expects it's citizens to life by. (Of course this is only one example of the many ways our government exhibits hypocrisy.) Drew Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:18:17 -0500 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Re: covers My favorite cover had to have been the one on the Rolling Stones Satanic Majesties album. You know, that 3-D thing... Oh, you meant cover songs? Never mind... Robert Litella New Jersey ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #346 **************************