From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #323 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, October 30 2000 Volume 06 : Number 323 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Annie Haslam on Philly PBS station [dsr@mail.lns.cornell.edu] Re: Meth's n.p. WAS: Re: Annie Haslam on Philly PBS station [woj sven-woj] Re: Kid A ?s WAS: Re: Kristy MacColl [Dave Williamson ] Sarah Harmer [Dave Williamson ] Re: Kid A ?s WAS: Re: Kristy MacColl [Richard Gaskin ] random notes [Steve I ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Oct 2000 02:37:24 -0500 From: dsr@mail.lns.cornell.edu Subject: Re: Annie Haslam on Philly PBS station meredith writes: > The WB network started this, I believe. They don't tell you everything > that was played, just the songs by the bands on record labels owned by the > megacorporation that also owns the WB Oh, so that's why they didn't give Jane a "music by" when they used a Siberry song on Charmed--I had been wondering what the magic criteria was, but hadn't put the pieces together. Guess it should have been obvious... - -- Dan Riley dsr@mail.lns.cornell.edu Wilson Lab, Cornell University "History teaches us that days like this are best spent in bed" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:33:03 -0500 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Re: Meth's n.p. WAS: Re: Annie Haslam on Philly PBS station >> >When will this magnificent recording be available for purchase for the >enjoyment of us eager Ectophiles? I'm sure that it will fetch a >handsome price and be a potentially big seller. ;-) i'm not adverse to bootlegging so anyone who wants to swing by with a portable dat deck and some core sound binaurals is more than welcome! woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:36:11 -0500 From: Dave Williamson Subject: Re: Kid A ?s WAS: Re: Kristy MacColl While in agreement that Kid A takes time and patience, I think this is a better album in many ways than OK Computer. If you are looking for traditional pop song structure and melody, it is found in very few places on Kid A. But this is a mezmerizing album that just won't leave my CD player (either in the car or at home). After catching Radiohead in Toronto just under two weeks ago (and being completely blown away), and on the strength of Kid A, I don't think there is anyone else on the planet at the moment that is in the same category that these guys are. Dave. Stuart Myerburg wrote: > Even though I'm a huge Radiohead fan, I didn't like the album at > first. Since the band said they were creating something along the > lines of "Exit Music" and "Airbag" from _OK Computer_, I was > expecting songs like those that abandon traditional song structures > but still have strong, if somewhat obscure, melodies. _Kid A_ has > some moments like that, especially on "Everything in Its Right > Place," which is meandering but bizarrely catchy at the same time, > and "Idioteque," where the band flirt with electronica even more > directly than they did on "Airbag." Those are, in my opinion, the > two strongest songs on _Kid A_ and come closest to the power of _OK > Computer_ and _The Bends_. > > The rest of the album took repeated listenings before I really began > to appreciate it. The styles range from ambient instrumental to > free form jazz to electronic music with distorted, barely > discernible vocals. I know Thom Yorke was very disillusioned with > all of the baggage that came with the success of _OK Computer_, and > it's as if the band this time around is trying to alienate the > casual listener. Even "Motion Picture Soundtrack," a song that was > very direct and powerful performed acoustically over the last couple > of years, is buried in messy orchestration in the recorded version. > The album definitely succeeds in being a work that rewards the > patient listener. But as much as I appreciate the album in its own > right, I think it's really just a transitional work. The band will > hopefully take the more willfully artsy elements on it and > incorporate them into the more "commercial" songs that are ready for > the next album, rumored to be due early next year. That would > produce another masterpiece like _OK Computer_, versus _Kid A_ which > is just an album filled with a bunch of interesting ideas and > occasional sparks of brilliance. > > Stuart > > -- > ______________________________________________ > Stuart Myerburg > http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart > ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 14:41:59 -0500 From: Dave Williamson Subject: Sarah Harmer I saw Sarah here in Ottawa last Monday night. Amazing progression over the last couple of years (I've been at her live shows since the early Weeping Tile days). She is so much more confident, and her voice much stronger live than it's ever been. Overall a great show. Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:40:08 -0800 From: Richard Gaskin Subject: Re: Kid A ?s WAS: Re: Kristy MacColl > I know Thom Yorke was very disillusioned with > all of the baggage that came with the success of _OK Computer_, and > it's as if the band this time around is trying to alienate the > casual listener. Even "Motion Picture Soundtrack," a song that was > very direct and powerful performed acoustically over the last couple > of years, is buried in messy orchestration in the recorded version. > The album definitely succeeds in being a work that rewards the > patient listener. But as much as I appreciate the album in its own > right, I think it's really just a transitional work. The band will > hopefully take the more willfully artsy elements on it and > incorporate them into the more "commercial" songs that are ready for > the next album, rumored to be due early next year. That would > produce another masterpiece like _OK Computer_, versus _Kid A_ which > is just an album filled with a bunch of interesting ideas and > occasional sparks of brilliance. Some critics have referred to _Kid A_ as the _White Album_ for this generation. I would tend to agree: I think it is one of the most beuatiful albums I've heard in years. Just my $0.02 worth. - -- Richard Gaskin _____________________________________________________________________ Ambassador@FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:50:30 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Susan McKeown @ Wetlands (NYC) Monday with the Chanters >Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 13:45:36 -0500 >To: sngmusic@earthlink.net >From: Sheila-na-Gig Music >Subject: Susan McKeown/Wetlands Monday with the Chanters > >A Benefit for the >No Spray Coalition www.nospray.org > >featuring > >SUSAN McKEOWN & CHANTING HOUSE, >Matt Turk, Kali Z. Fasteau & Warren Smith, > >with Eric Leiblein, Kid Lucky, Caroline Cutroneo, and some >VERY SPECIAL GUESTS: Eliot Katz, Merry Fortune, Wanda Phipps, Carol >Sudhalter, Bryan and Marcy, and others. > >HOSTED BY WBAI Radio's ROBERT KNIGHT. > >Monday, Oct. 30, at Wetlands Preserve, >161 Hudson Street (just South of Canal St.), >Doors open at 8 pm. $15 > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:13:25 -0800 From: Billi Mazur Subject: Re: Kid A ?s WAS: Re: Kristy MacColl Stuart, Dave & Richard, Thanks to all of you who replied to my questions on Kid A! What appeals to me about Radiohead is the way that they mix an edgy, experimental, modern sound with 70s prog rock all generally done within a pop song format. Based on what you all have said, I believe that I will find Kid A to be interesting and enjoyable. I appreciate the feedback. Bill M. n.p. Sarah McLachlan _Fumbling Towards Ecstacy_ Stuart Myerburg wrote: > Bill Mazur wrote: > > > Stuart, > > > > I have been waiting to see when or if someone on Ecto would mention the new > > Radiohead, either directly or subtly (via the n.p. as you did). I don't have > it yet and have only heard a little about it. What is your opinion of it? > > and why? How does it compare to their previous work? > > Even though I'm a huge Radiohead fan, I didn't like the album at > first. Since the band said they were creating something along the > lines of "Exit Music" and "Airbag" from _OK Computer_, I was > expecting songs like those that abandon traditional song structures > but still have strong, if somewhat obscure, melodies. _Kid A_ has > some moments like that, especially on "Everything in Its Right > Place," which is meandering but bizarrely catchy at the same time, > and "Idioteque," where the band flirt with electronica even more > directly than they did on "Airbag." Those are, in my opinion, the > two strongest songs on _Kid A_ and come closest to the power of _OK > Computer_ and _The Bends_. > > The rest of the album took repeated listenings before I really began > to appreciate it. The styles range from ambient instrumental to > free form jazz to electronic music with distorted, barely > discernible vocals. I know Thom Yorke was very disillusioned with > all of the baggage that came with the success of _OK Computer_, and > it's as if the band this time around is trying to alienate the > casual listener. Even "Motion Picture Soundtrack," a song that was > very direct and powerful performed acoustically over the last couple > of years, is buried in messy orchestration in the recorded version. > The album definitely succeeds in being a work that rewards the > patient listener. But as much as I appreciate the album in its own > right, I think it's really just a transitional work. The band will > hopefully take the more willfully artsy elements on it and > incorporate them into the more "commercial" songs that are ready for > the next album, rumored to be due early next year. That would > produce another masterpiece like _OK Computer_, versus _Kid A_ which > is just an album filled with a bunch of interesting ideas and > occasional sparks of brilliance. > > Stuart > > -- > ______________________________________________ > Stuart Myerburg > http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart > ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:57:50 -0500 From: Steve I Subject: random notes Hey 'philes, I've been in lurk mode for quite awhile now so I thought I'd pop in just to say hello... Drew wrote: >Holly Palmer - Is Holly still in San Diego? A friend >turned me on to an advance of her (still unreleased) >latest, 'Tender Hooks', and it's great. It's an >interesting collection of songs ranging from >electronica / noise pop to deepish R&B. Great voice. I think Holly's in LA. Tender Hooks is an awesome record, hopefully it'll be released soon. California folks can see her on Wednesday (Nov 6) at Luna Park in West Hollywood, and she'll have a Friday night residency in December at Genghis Cohen in L.A. Latest info at http://hollypalmersinger.com - --- Saw Sarah Harmer play a show in a gorgeous church on Thursday night. I was lucky to get tickets, because to my astonishment the 600 seat venue sold out over a week in advance (take note, all you lucky people who got to see her do Living Room shows with Sarah Slean!). I was pretty bummed about not having tickets but a couple of days before the show a friend came through with a pair of comps. Wahoo! I've been fortunate to see Sarah play many times over the last 5-6 years, solo and in Weeping Tile, and this was the best. Most of the songs were from her latest CD _You Were Here_ but there were a few older ones thrown in as well. She had her band with her, notably including the incredibly talented multi-instrumentalist Kevin Fox (who got a big cheer "FOXXXY" from a couple of Kevin fans in the balcony, one of whom, I later realized, was friend and sometime fellow-bandmate Emm Gryner, in town for some rehearsals). I love seeing Kevin play, both as a backing musician and solo, he's an amazing talent. Anyways I digress, Sarah and her band were in fine form, and the adoring crowd rewarded her by calling her back for two encores and giving her three standing ovations. Fantastic! - --- Anyone here heard of Tegan and Sara? I've been meaning to post for a long time but I've been too much in lurk-mode... They're a really talented pair of identical twins from Calgary, Alberta (as if we didn't have enough Canuck Sara(h)'s). Think Ani DiFranco with Indigo Girls-esque harmonies. They recently toured with Neil Young. Really awesome stuff. They're really fun to see live because in addition to putting on a rocking good show, they're really funny, their stage banter is as fun as their actual songs. Go the http://teganandsara.com , there's a free full-length downloadable MP3 there to sample. - -- A quick wave to Michael Curry, who I believe is only the third ectophile I've met in person. He came up for a Sarah Slean show, one of her last before she sequestered herself in a certain studio in Happy's neck of the woods. Anyway nice to finally meet you after all these years, Mike! Steve ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #323 **************************