From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #312 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, October 21 2000 Volume 06 : Number 312 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Emiliana Torrini [klaus.kluge@gmx.de] equipoise available, embarrassingly cheap [karen hester ] Re: IWBK [Jeffrey Burka ] Piano Girl ["Troy D. Cockrell" ] Re: Piano Girl [jjhanson@att.net] RE: Piano Girl (obvious ones) [Loretta Pontillo ] piano girls ["JoAnn Whetsell" ] Talking of ways of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori does ["Mar] Re: Piano Girl [eperkins@surfbest.net] aimee mann at Harper College in Chicago Review ["Michael Mendelson" ] Laurianne F web concert (sort of) [Neal Copperman ] Re: piano girls ["Datura Child" ] Re: Talking of ways of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori does [] Re: IWBK [drop the holupki ] RE: Talking of ways of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori does [] Re: IWBK ["Scott S. Zimmerman" ] Re: Piano Girl [dmw ] RE: Piano Girl ["Mattoon, Melanie" ] Re: piano girls -- Emily Bezar? [Sophie Vasseur ] RE: Piano Girl [Neile Graham ] RE: Tori's later stuff (was: Piano Girl) [Loretta Pontillo ] pj harvey date. ["Heidi Maier" ] Re: piano girls -- Emily Bezar? ["Scott S. Zimmerman" ] hr on hr [drop the holupki ] re : piano girls [Paul Kim ] FW: [CTFolk] Concerts at the Yale Women's Center [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:38:13 +0200 (MEST) From: klaus.kluge@gmx.de Subject: Emiliana Torrini Let me add to the emerging voices who recommend Emiliana Torrini. Her "Love in the time of science" was one of my top-3 albums of last year. The CD player software that I use at work tells me that I've played this album 22 times (and I still love it :) Check her out if you have the chance! Keep on listening... ...Klaus (who has finally solved his CD storage problems... for now... and is now playing his collection in alphabetical order) np: Barenaked Ladies: Maybe you should drive nr: er... currently nothing - -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 22:32:04 +1300 From: karen hester Subject: equipoise available, embarrassingly cheap Hi, just found Happy Rhodes' 'Equipoise' cd second hand, 50% off, plus in NZ money which recently crashed to a value less than 40% of American money so ... if anyone wants it (I've got my own copy already) ... it costs half of $7.95, times .40 (if you're one of them 'Mericans). Um. Does that come to US$1.50? Is that *possible*? Plus about $3 postage, I guess. I couldn't bear to see it at such a low price so I bought it. A new copy of 'Many worlds' by Happy was there for about US$7.60, but I didn't pick that up. Pity there are no online NZ cd stores which can sell to overseas people! karen. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 05:47:00 -0700 From: "Suzanna Otting" Subject: Re: IWBK Does anyone know if the I Wanna Be Kate tribute CD is any good? Is it worth the not really incredibly low price of $12.99 plus shipping? On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:39:48 drop the holupki wrote: >>From: Thomas Dunning >>Subject: IWBKate On-line Distribution Announcement! >>To: love-hounds >>Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:23:00 -0700 >> >>Hello Love-Hounds, >> >>I'm happy to announce that >> >>I WANNA BE KATE: The Songs of Kate Bush >>(Brown Star Records) >> >>has been picked up by Hear Diagonally Records for on-line distribution. >> >>This means credit card orders can be facilitated with greater ease and >>efficiency! >> >>A lower price of $12.99 (down from $14) for the CD is also announced today! >> >>Follow the link here to easily order IWBKate with your credit card: >> >>http://www.heardiagonally.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code= >HDRS&Product_Code=IWBK >> >>Information about the CD and other ordering options can be found at: >> >>http://www.clubi.ie/twomey/trib.htm >> >>Thanks for your continued support of this project. >> >>Fondly, >> >>Thomas >> >>Thomas Dunning >>Brown Star Records >>Chicago >> >>The Kate Bush Tribute CD! >>I WANNA BE KATE: The Songs of Kate Bush >>http://www.ripco.com/~stunning/kate >> >>ps. If you are on a Kate list or newgroup other than >Love-Hounds/rec.music.gaffa, >>I sure would appreciate you passing this new information on to them. >>Thanks a bunch! >> > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:14:05 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: IWBK Suzanna Otting sez: > Does anyone know if the I Wanna Be Kate tribute CD is any good? >Is it worth the not really incredibly low price of $12.99 plus >shipping? Hunh? $12.99 isn't a low price for a CD? When was the last time you were in a middle-america retailer and saw a hot new CD on sale to the masses for $12.99 + tax, marked down from it's normal Low, low price of $16.99?! that said, yes, it's worth it if you're a KaTefan. As you might expect from any such tribute which comprises acts for a wide variety of local (chicago) indie acts, it is inconsistent and has a wide variety of styles The incredibly cool acid-jazz-rap deconstruction of "There Goes A Tenner" is probably worth the price of admission on its own. Other standouts include the Betty-esque montage of "Kashka From Baghdad / Babooshka", the devo-esque uh...I think it's "Hounds of Love" but it might be RUTH, and the gorgeous string-laden rendition of "And Dream of Sheep." jeff n.p. _Oyster_, heather nova ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:28:05 -0400 From: "Troy D. Cockrell" Subject: Piano Girl Hello, I'm a big fan of Tori Amos (girl and her piano thing), and was wondering if you wonderful people could recommend some other artists that I might find to be similar to Tori?? Any help would be great. Thanks Troy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:15:49 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: Piano Girl Hi Troy, Welcome to ecto. There are a bunch of "Tori-like" artists-some of my favorites may be a little hard to find at your local store, but all are available on the Internet with a little searching. But here are some of my favorite Tori-like artists: Kate Bush - vocally similar to Tori--many people compared Tori to Kate when she first came out--Kate is a true musical goddess--her first album, The Kick Inside, came out in 1978, but is very similar to Tori's Little Earthquakes (she even appears inside a box on the U.S. cover). As she progresses, she becomes more eclectic--using more synthesizer, etc. Still definitely worth checking out. Happy Rhodes - OK--she's not really that similar to Tori, but she's very similar to Kate and definitely worth checking out (she uses more guitar and synth than piano) Sarah Slean - one of the closest Tori-clones, but a unique artist in her own right--she's from Toronto-- check out her CDs Universe and Blue Parade--highly recommended Hannah Fury - sort of a "goth" Tori--her piano playing in particular is very much like TOri--lyrically she's rather dark but evocative--not just depressing. Her album The Thing That Feels features a 5-song cycle based on Geoffrey Maguire's novel Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West. Definitely worth checking out. Margot O'Breslin - an indy artist whose albums has become pretty difficult to obtain--she has an Internet stie but the address on it is wrong--use the one in the Ectophile's guide--and even then you may have trouble actually getting a copy of the album. Her piano is Tori-like, but musically she reminds me more of a cross between Tori and say--Billy Joel. Mary Lydia Ryan - very lush piano--not really Tori-like but if you like Tori you'd probably like her--she's from the Seattle area and has a good website where you can order albums at www.marylydiaryan.com (she's very good about processing orders quickly). Her album Diaphonous is superb--her first album is quite good too. Well I'm sure I'm forgetting many artists but these should be enough to get you going. Jeff Hanson n.p. Indigo Girls - Retrospective n.r. Peel My Love Like an Onion - Ana Castillo > Hello, > I'm a big fan of Tori Amos (girl and her piano thing), and was wondering > if you wonderful people could recommend some other artists that I might > find to be similar to Tori?? Any help would be great. > Thanks > Troy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:18:42 -0400 From: Loretta Pontillo Subject: RE: Piano Girl (obvious ones) Well... No one is Tori, but here are some people to check out. Sorry that these are all obvious, but I don't know how much you already know about "ecto" music. Joni Mitchell. Tori says that Joni was a huge influence on her, more as a songwriter than a piano player. "Blue" is a perfect album, IMHO. (Tori covers "Case of You") Kate Bush. You can often hear Kate's influence on Tori. I recommend "Hounds of Love" for its sheer perfection and "The Dreaming" as a great weird KaTe moment. (Tori covers "Running up that Hill") Happy Rhodes. Happy has a way of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori seems to. Fiona Apple. Another "girl and her piano," but much more... soulful for lack of a better term. that's all I can think of right now. I'm sure I'll think of more the second I send this. Loretta - -----Original Message----- From: Troy D. Cockrell [mailto:tcockrel@wpl.lib.oh.us] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:28 PM To: Ecto-Digest (E-mail) Subject: Piano Girl Hello, I'm a big fan of Tori Amos (girl and her piano thing), and was wondering if you wonderful people could recommend some other artists that I might find to be similar to Tori?? Any help would be great. Thanks Troy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:54:28 -0400 From: Ian Clysdale Subject: Re: Piano Girl > Hello, > I'm a big fan of Tori Amos (girl and her piano thing), and was wondering > if you wonderful people could recommend some other artists that I might > find to be similar to Tori?? Any help would be great. Well, when I tried to think who has the most "Tori" vibe, I had two immediate reactions. The first is Michelle Cross. Her actual recorded CD is good, but she also had available for download on her web site MP3s of a live set that she did on one of her local radio stations, which is just her and a piano. My roommate still refuses to admit that that set *isn't* Tori Amos. ;) You should be able to find this by doing some web searching - if you absolutely can't, send me e-mail and I'll find a way to get you the MP3 files. The second is an Ottawa band called First Of June, who I've seen a few other people mention on here before. I saw them play a month or two ago, opening for Wild Strawberries. The first few songs of the set I spent going "My God, did these people learn to play by listening to Little Earthquakes and Under The Pink over and over again???" which, by the end of the set , had become "You know, they're doing the stuff that I wish Tori had gone and done after Under The Pink instead of the crap that she's been doing ever since then [1]". It's a piano/bass/drums trio, and they remind me a lot of Cornflake-Girl type Tori. My girlfriend owns their CD, and I recall having listened to it and liking it, but honestly don't remember the CD that well. But if it holds up to their live show, I really should go back and listen to it again. They also have a few tracks on MP3.com Actually, I just went and looked at their web site (www.firstofjune.com). They've got their original CD, a live CD recorded at the show that I was just raving about, and another CD ready "real soon now" (tm). All of them are only $10US with shipping to the States. So that's my hyping a hometown band. :) I'm going to have to spend money and buy the live CD now. Damn this list and its wallet hemorrhagingness. Especially when I do it to myself! ;) ian. (np Dar Williams - Mortal City) [1] Apologies to everyone who likes recent Tori stuff. Boys for Pele did less than nothing for me, and while I liked Tales from the Choirgirl hotel, it just didn't have the certain something from her older stuff I really liked. It got about four plays in the CD player when I first got, and I don't think that I've listened to it since. Maybe I'll give it another listen when I get home... I still haven't heard her new album, so I can't comment on it. - -- ian clysdale / "the sort of person who routinely uses phrases like ian@redmaplegrove.org / 'incompletely socialized' usually thinks hackers are. hacker,druid,linguist / hackers regard such people with contempt when they www.redmaplegrove.org / notice them at all." - the jargon file. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:32:09 EDT From: "JoAnn Whetsell" Subject: piano girls How can we discuss girls and pianos without mentioning Veda Hille? I don't know if I'd call her "Tori-like," but I think people who like Tori in general would also like Veda. Ladyslipper music partly describes her as (paraphrasing here) imagine tori amos, but pushed further to the extreme. anyway, definitely check out her page on the ectoguide, and then her own website. the descriptions there are far better than what i can pull out of my brain right now. JoAnn, who thinks she should go play veda's "here is a picture" on her boss's cd-rom computer _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:53:27 +0100 From: "Martin Williams" Subject: Talking of ways of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori does Have you heard Anna Dennis of Silverman. Ok so they're not American and = ok so they're not signed, still awesome though. Hear for yourselves at = www.mp3.com/silverman Am I right or am I right??????? M x ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:07:00 PDT From: eperkins@surfbest.net Subject: Re: Piano Girl There are two more that leapt to my mind: Pepper McGowan - You can check out her Web site at www.peppermcgowan.com, and she has samples available at MP3.com and I think at her own site as well. Wonderfully moving piano playing and another artist who is unique, but if you like Tori, you'll probably love her. Anne Heaton - She's been talked about quite a bit lately, and she jumped to mind because on her album available at MP3.com, Spoke From the Heart, she sounds exactly like Tori on a few tracks. I think her live album is much more representative of her work, actually. She sounds a lot less like Tori on her later and live work, but I think it's a better direction for her. Her Web site is at www.anneheaton.com. This message powered by EMUMAIL. -- http://www.EMUMAIL.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:07:01 -0500 From: "Michael Mendelson" Subject: aimee mann at Harper College in Chicago Review Let me start by saying that I love Aimee Mann's music. Creatively, both in melody / song structure and in cutting, cunning lyrics she is in a very elite league of songwriters. And she produces beautiful-sounding albums. The lilt of her voice, the clarity and enunciation, and the vulnerable-hopeful-cynical-futile-little girl trapped in a no-win world-thing is second to none. I wish I could say the same for her live performance. I have seen her only twice, but she projects a rather untoward attitude and almost scorn for her audience. This, I am quite sure, is a reflection of her personality and of the many failure-ridden and frustrating experiences she has endured in her life. But frankly, when you are performing in front of people who genuinely appreciate you for your talent and your ability to touch them, it's time to turn off the ascerbicity and show a little tenderness. These are your friends, your fans, your music-appreciaters. In chicago she sold out 3 shows - no easy feat in these times - and still so little obvious appreciation in the way of bedside manner. Tell us about your day, your travels, your songs, your thoughts. Share something revealing or intimate or silly. If you are so fed up with the music industry in which you finally seem to be thriving, tell us about it and include us in it. The robotic 'thank you very much' at the end of each song, spoken in exactly the same mechanical way, is not endearing at all. Aimee is distant and abrupt and stands on the stage looking down or with her eyes shut through most of the performance. It's almost as if she would rather not be there, or that she is killing the pain by pretending she is alone on stage -- or not on stage at all. To this observer, it looked like she was going through the motions. Which, considering the emotion and intensity of her albums, betrays a bitterness and closedness that alienates the fans. And another thing: let's pick up the vocals in the mix! I have now seen her in two vastly different arenas (one small theatre of 300, the other a club about 1500) and in both cases it was nearly impossible to make out what she was singing. In going back to listen to the albums, I am always struck by how pure her vocals are and how they ride on top of the layered guitars. It's that intimacy, the touch, that is missing so desperately from the live shows. She is a wonderful songwriter and an accomplished recording artist. If you're out there Aimee, please just relax a bit and let us in to enjoy and share in the desolate world you've created. - -mjm _______________________ Michael J. Mendelson mmendelson@auvo.com or mjmjm@usa.net Auvo Technologies 500 Park Blvd. Suite 775 Itasca, IL 60143 office 630-285-9079 x105 fax 630-250-8047 web http://www.auvo.com _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Listen Up! A Cappella http://www.jewishsong.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:11:36 PDT From: eperkins@surfbest.net Subject: Re: Piano Girl There are two more that leapt to my mind: Pepper McGowan - You can check out her Web site at www.peppermcgowan.com, and she has samples available at MP3.com and I think at her own site as well. Wonderfully moving piano playing and another artist who is unique, but if you like Tori, you'll probably love her. Anne Heaton - She's been talked about quite a bit lately, and she jumped to mind because on her album available at MP3.com, Spoke From the Heart, she sounds exactly like Tori on a few tracks. I think her live album is much more representative of her work, actually. She sounds a lot less like Tori on her later and live work, but I think it's a better direction for her. Her Web site is at www.anneheaton.com. This message powered by EMUMAIL. -- http://www.EMUMAIL.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Marla Tiara Subject: Re: Piano Girl I found someone randomly on napster named Carol James - - she has some mp3s at mp3.com as well - and she does the girl and a piano thing quite nicely. (If anyone has more info about this woman, please do let me know.) Also, check out Sarah Slean - http://www.sarahslean.com - I adore her and she does the girl and a piano thing and definitely has Tori echoes yet she manages to stand completely on her own. For the record... > [1] Apologies to everyone who likes recent Tori > stuff. Boys for Pele > did less than nothing for me Really? :( It's tied with Little Earthquakes as my favorite Tori album, and definitely did more than everything for me, but hey, to each their own. > and while I liked > Tales from the Choirgirl hotel, The title is just "From the Choirgirl Hotel" but I'm a picky bitch, as woj can attest to, so really just ignore me. marla tiara ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Famous people wearing my tiara: http://www.marlatiara.com (*updated 9/21/00 - All pictures active!) "I will always love you like a milkshake." - Wesley Willis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:35:26 -0700 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Laurianne F web concert (sort of) If all goes well, Laurianne Fiorentiono, the performer doing a house concert for me tonight, will be arriving soon. We'll be wondering down to the KUNM studio to do a few songs on the air. KUNM has an internet feed, so if anyone wants to listen, it's http://www.kunm.unm.edu. Laurianne should be on at 1:40 New Mexico time (1 hour from now - as I write). Warning - it's pledge drive time. For more info on her, check out www.lauriannef.com neal np: Julia Fordham - Julia Fordham ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:39:42 EDT From: "Datura Child" Subject: Re: piano girls Two other artists who haven't been mentioned but deffinately belong in this category are Sheila Nicholls- British artist who I suppose is a bit more like Ani DiFranco than Tori but plays the piano fabulously none the less. Her album Brief Strop is pretty easy to find. Emily Bezar- The first tome I listened to her album Grandmother's Tea Leaves I was floored by how much she sounds like Kate Bush. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:48:41 -0400 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: Talking of ways of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori does when we last left our heroes, Martin Williams exclaimed: >Have you heard Anna Dennis of Silverman. Ok so they're not American and = >ok so they're not signed, still awesome though. Hear for yourselves at = >www.mp3.com/silverman dude, are'nt you in the band? >Am I right or am I right??????? i like silverman just fine but anna is only vaguely reminiscent of tori and the band is quite differently musically. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:53:02 -0400 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: IWBK when we last left our heroes, Jeffrey Burka exclaimed: >Suzanna Otting sez: >> Does anyone know if the I Wanna Be Kate tribute CD is any good? >>Is it worth the not really incredibly low price of $12.99 plus >>shipping? >Hunh? $12.99 isn't a low price for a CD? i think she was being sarcastic.... >that said, yes, it's worth it if you're a KaTefan. agreed...despite the lackluster contributions from "name" artists syd straw and susan voelz. the stand-outs that jeffy mentioned, though, more than make up for the weaker pieces. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:02:11 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: Talking of ways of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori does Hi there, You are right!! Silverman is indeed very cool!! I have a bunch of their MP3s and they're great! ~Amy www.collectedsounds.com a site for women in music formerly ecalos.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Martin Williams > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:53 PM > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Talking of ways of accessing the subconcious the way that Tori > does > > > Have you heard Anna Dennis of Silverman. Ok so they're not American and = > ok so they're not signed, still awesome though. Hear for yourselves at = > www.mp3.com/silverman > > Am I right or am I right??????? > > M > x > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:03:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Scott S. Zimmerman" Subject: Re: IWBK > >> Does anyone know if the I Wanna Be Kate tribute CD is any good? > >>Is it worth the not really incredibly low price of $12.99 plus > >>shipping? > > >Hunh? $12.99 isn't a low price for a CD? > > i think she was being sarcastic.... I didn't think so. In my book, $12.99 is in the medium range. Incredibly low is like $7.50 for a full length cd. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Piano Girl On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Troy D. Cockrell wrote: > Hello, > I'm a big fan of Tori Amos (girl and her piano thing), and was wondering > if you wonderful people could recommend some other artists that I might > find to be similar to Tori?? Any help would be great. i agree with a lot of the names mentioned, but no one has said "emm gryner" yet. so. "emm gryner." try _science fair_ for a start. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:23:12 -0500 From: "Mattoon, Melanie" Subject: RE: Piano Girl How about Sarah McLachlan, Kendall Payne, or Alana Davis? All very good and can be compared in some way or another to Tori. np The Wallflowers - Breach nr JK Rowling - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - -----Original Message----- From: Troy D. Cockrell [mailto:tcockrel@wpl.lib.oh.us] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:28 PM To: Ecto-Digest (E-mail) Subject: Piano Girl Hello, I'm a big fan of Tori Amos (girl and her piano thing), and was wondering if you wonderful people could recommend some other artists that I might find to be similar to Tori?? Any help would be great. Thanks Troy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:58:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Sophie Vasseur Subject: Re: piano girls -- Emily Bezar? Hi Datura CHild, I'm new on the Ecto list. Emily Bezar sounds extremely intriguing to me. Could you please kindly tell me where her CD Grandmother's Tea Leaves can be purchased? And in which way(s) does she sound like Kate Bush - merely vocally (like our own beloved HTR), or is there a similar musicality there as well? Thanks!! Love, Sophie On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:39:42 EDT, Datura Child wrote: > Two other artists who haven't been mentioned but deffinately belong in this > category are > > Sheila Nicholls- British artist who I suppose is a bit more like Ani > DiFranco than Tori but plays the piano fabulously none the less. Her album > Brief Strop is pretty easy to find. > > Emily Bezar- The first tome I listened to her album Grandmother's Tea Leaves > I was floored by how much she sounds like Kate Bush. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:58:25 -0400 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: IWBK >> >> Does anyone know if the I Wanna Be Kate tribute CD is any good? >> >>Is it worth the not really incredibly low price of $12.99 plus >> >>shipping? >> >> >Hunh? $12.99 isn't a low price for a CD? >> >> i think she was being sarcastic.... > >I didn't think so. In my book, $12.99 is in the medium range. Incredibly >low is like $7.50 for a full length cd. duh. i misread what she wrote: "not really incredibly" scanned as "really incredibly". either way, the point remains the same: hype sucks! +w ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:07:04 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: RE: Piano Girl A lot of the people mentioned here aren't necessarily piano based. Additional Tori-like people who _are_ piano-based (I don't think these have been mentioned yet): *Imogen Heap (down the rock & electronic & experimental road) *Robin Holcomb (stripped down and a touch folksie but classical & jazz piano-based, I highly, highly her self-titled album for fans of evocative hard-to-pin-down lyrics and great piano work) *Alison Faith Levy For a couple more non-piano: *Jorane is to the cello what Tori is to the piano *Josette's Eye is like First of June to my ear--a great pop band with Tori-esque sensibilities & vocals (but First of June _does_ have piano). Josette's Eye's album, _Alibi Clock_ even has a song about a woman listening to a guy's reaction to Tori which has lots of references to her "I've got an antichrist of my own" "she should have stayed silent a few more year..." I really like the album. All these people (except First of June and Josette's Eye though they both have mp3.com pages which is where I first heard of them) and plenty of those previously mentioned have pages on The Ectophiles' Guide. - --Neile n.p. Cat Power, _Moon Pix_ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:45:50 -0400 From: Loretta Pontillo Subject: RE: Tori's later stuff (was: Piano Girl) Mara says, For the record... > [1] Apologies to everyone who likes recent Tori > stuff. Boys for Pele > did less than nothing for me Really? :( It's tied with Little Earthquakes as my favorite Tori album, and definitely did more than everything for me, but hey, to each their own. > and while I liked > Tales from the Choirgirl hotel, The title is just "From the Choirgirl Hotel" but I'm a picky bitch, as woj can attest to, so really just ignore me. I say, I think Boys for Pele is just brilliant. It's one of those albums that you have to work to get inside but once you're there it's worth it. I think if you can listen to "the donut song" and not think it is one of the most perfect and beautiful songs ever written... then you have very different taste than I do (says Loretta, covering up what she was going to say ~_^) - -Loretta http://www.geocities.com/lorettapage/musings/musings.html np: Blur, Parklife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:33:02 -0700 From: Brian Errickson Subject: Sandy Horne Okay I downloaded a "Spoons" album on napster. The background vocals on several songs sound incredibly like Liz Fraser. Does Sandy sound like her always? Do Martha and the Muffins have anything like Liz type vocals? Finally, does anyone have the Sandy Horne solo album, and if so what does it sound like? Oh ecto sages please answer my naive questions. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 14:00:05 +1000 From: "Heidi Maier" Subject: pj harvey date. dan asked: > Last week the CMJ website listed PJ Harvey at the Bowery Ballroom in NYC at > 6pm Thursday. Now, all references to PJ are gone from the CMJ site, and > instead it lists that 6pm slot at the Bowery as "Special Guest." No > mention of a NY show on Pollstar or pjharvey.net at this time > either. Either it fell through or they're not advertising it - does anyone > know which? i received the following information about US polly shows -- Rumor Confirmed - P J Harvey To Play The Knitting Factory on Friday, Oct. 20th. Following the success of her recent surprise show at The Viper Room, PJ Harvey has added another unannounced show this Friday, October 20th at the Knitting Factory in New York. Tickets for this show go on sale on Friday morning at 10:30am at The Knitting Factory Box Office only - no phone orders. The Knitting Factory is located at 74 Leonard St. bet. Broadway & Church. you lucky new yorkers! i hope polly will also play some theatre/venue shows when she tours here early next year, as part of the big day out festival. heidi (damning the tyranny of distance that is living in australia) ;) - ------ "i want so much to write well, though i know i don't ... but during and at the end of my life, i will adore those who have." -- *dorothy parker* * heidi maier - maier@joynet.com.au * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 21:04:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Scott S. Zimmerman" Subject: Re: piano girls -- Emily Bezar? Sophie wrote: > Emily Bezar sounds extremely intriguing to me. Could you please kindly tell > me where her CD Grandmother's Tea Leaves can be purchased? And in which > way(s) does she sound like Kate Bush - merely vocally (like our own beloved > HTR), or is there a similar musicality there as well? Emily's voice is clearer and somewhat operatic (especially on Grandmother's Tea Leaves) but there is a similarity between the two, including in the form of similar melodic ideas. Emily's music is generally not as crazy and funky as Kate's can be, but it is still very much on the experimental side... Her music leans towards the classical, but the pop hooks in gems like "Black Sand" and "Lead" are quite remarkable! [those are both off of her newest disc "Four Walls Bending"] "Four Walls Bending" and "Moon In Grenadine" are available at most of the music megashops on the net, but "Grandmother's Tea Leaves" is temporarily absent from national circulation. However, all 3 are still available from a few sources. 1) Direct from Emily. Go to http://www.emilybezar.com She accepts checks or money orders. 2) From my website. http://www.tweekitten.com I have numerous copies of each title in stock at $10.50 each plus postage. Visa/MC/checks/money orders accepted. 3) Harmony Ridge probably has stock. There's a huge selection of CDs by female vocalists there. http://www.rahul.net/hrmusic/ visa, mc, checks, moneyorders Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 00:54:34 -0400 From: drop the holupki Subject: hr on hr i would presume this is old news but i don't remember hearing about this before. apparently, happy is on hansford rowe's new album _no other_. the sketchy details are at . anybody have this album? if so, please fill in the details. thanks! woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 01:24:41 -0400 From: Paul Kim Subject: re : piano girls My three suggestions for tori-like piano girls Rebecca Timmons : I haven't heard her second album, but her first album which is self titled, is very Tori like. I think it's a little more theatrical than tori; the album is very cohesive and sort of reads like a musical. Emma Townshend : daughter of Pete. To be honest, I've listened to her album Winterland at least a dozen times, and there are only 2 songs that I can remember off of it. It seems like the kind of album that makes me distance myself from it as I listen, like, as soon as i put it on, it wants to just be background music. That's not a bad thing, it's just the way it is. She's more sparse and dark than Tori, IMHO. The Blue Up? : I don't know if this group is still together. They released at least one album on Atlantic back in 1994 or 1995, I think. They also had at least one indie album before that. It's a trio of women that isn't so much piano based, but they do the quirky Tori thing VERY well. Example : there is a hidden track on the album _Spool Forka Dish_ that is the entire album backwards. Seriously. And the singer/songwriter of the group thanks tori first in her liner notes. And I have to concur with the mentions of Sarah Slean and Emily Bezar. Veda Hille is a little more difficult to swallow, I think (although I think she's brilliant), and her voice is very much the opposite of tori's in terms of timbre and range. Interestingly enough, I'm taking a lyric writing class at Berklee, and my teacher has played two examples of Tori (along with a couple country songs, paul simon, and suzanne vega) the past two classes. Paul Kim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 01:31:09 -0400 From: meredith Subject: FW: [CTFolk] Concerts at the Yale Women's Center Hi! This should be of interest to ectofolk in the Connecticut area. I plan to be at both events. >To: ctfolk@egroups.com >From: Josie Rodberg >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:26:13 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: [CTFolk] Concerts at the Yale Women's Center > >Upcoming Concerts: Erin McKeown and Mila Drumke! > > >MILA DRUMKE PERFORMS AT THE YALE WOMEN'S CENTER, OCTOBER 28, 8 PM. >The Independent Film Channel raves, "Mila Drumke immediately >tweaks the music gods imbedded deep in your marrow...an incredibly >talented artist whom half of you wants to tell the world about so she can >immediately capture fame, fortune and fans, while the other half conspires >to keep a secret so you can share her with only your best and music loving >fans." The New York Times adds, "A downtown pop-sophisticate with a >sultry alto and a flair for the stage, Mila Drumke touches on a number of >female-dominated styles, from Suzanne Vega's vignettes to Liz Phair's >rocking narratives of gender battles to Kate Bush's quasi-mystical, dreamy >tales. Drumke's voice is strong and confident, with more complex emotions >lurking around its edges." Tickets are $4 in advance, $5 at the door. >Tickets and info: Talk to Josie at josie.rodberg@yale.edu, or 436-1394. >The Women's Center is located at 198 Elm Street in New Haven, next to >Durfee's Sweet Shop. > > >ERIN MCKWEOWN, NOVEMBER 4, 8 PM, at the YALE WOMEN'S CENTER: >At age 22, McKeown, proficient on bass, piano, electric and acoustic >guitars as well as banjo and mandolin, has come a long way in the brief >three0year period she's been playing her art. McKeown is categorically >elusive, a characteristic she attributes to her restless nature and >penchant for musical adventure. Brandishing one of the most distinctive >guitar styles around with a voice to match, her most recent release, >DISTILLATION, provides a glimpse of her wide-ranging abilities as McKeown >bops, strums, swings, rocks, and struts her way through a remarkable >collection of songs culled from a rainbow of idioms: pop, blues, jazz, >funk, and Tin Pan Alley. > >As the Brown Daily Herald says, "To fully appreciate Erin McKeown, you >just have to see her as dozens of audiences have...with an irresistible >grin and a large huitar that cannot hold back her relentless energy. Her >music defies categorization...McKeown is a virtual sponge, absorbing and >assimilating her influences rather than carelessly leaving them on the >surface." > >Tickets are $6 in advance, $7 at the door. Tickets and info: talk to Josie >at josie.rodberg@yale.edu, or 436-1394. The Women's Center is located at >193 Elm Street in New Haven, next to Durfee's Sweet Shop. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 15:39:25 +1000 From: "Heidi Maier" Subject: diamanda galas in sydney, 2001. greetings everybody ... yes! it's true! go to the sydney opera house's website for more information, they have a page up at: http://www.soh.nsw.gov.au/files/diamanda_galas/index.html and according to that, she's also coming to brisbane ... thankfully! (melbourne and perth too, for ectophiles in those cities). heidi. - ------ "i want so much to write well, though i know i don't ... but during and at the end of my life, i will adore those who have." -- *dorothy parker* * heidi maier - maier@joynet.com.au * ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #312 **************************