From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #297 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, October 6 2000 Volume 06 : Number 297 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: vickie's shoutcast/Wendy Rule [WretchAwry ] Re: vickie's shoutcast/Wendy Rule [kitty kat ] Medevial baebes for sale [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Re: vickie's shoutcast/Wendy Rule [meredith ] Re: vickie's shoutcast ["Matt Bittner" ] Re: Christine Fellows [bocce ball ] cory sipper [bocce ball ] Re: project lo - waterbury [bocce ball ] Gray Code in DC Saturday, 5:45 PM [Joseph Zitt ] Hedningarna and Wimme at Monterey World Music festival [Phil Hudson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 01:34:04 -0500 From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: vickie's shoutcast/Wendy Rule At 04:33 PM 10/5/2000 +1100, Andrew wrote: >On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, WretchAwry wrote: > >>I upped the quality to 48 kBit/s, 22,050 Hz Stereo (whatever that mean, I >>just know it sounds better) but it has a bad side effect of not allowing as >>many listeners, and causes drop-outs every now and then. > >I'd love to join in the chorus of appreciation because I also used to >tune in to Vickie's broadcast and enjoy it a lot. Sadly, this "upgrade" >has rendered the broadcast practically useless on my 56k connection, >where it used to stream perfectly at the lower bitrate... Yes, I'd love >to get broadband access one of those days, but for now it's back to >listening to my own CDs for me :( Yikes, in the choice between listeners and stereo. I choose listeners. I've changed it back to what it was. You can come back now! :-) Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: kitty kat Subject: Re: vickie's shoutcast/Wendy Rule I do have a DSL connection and normally get 100k/s transfer - I'm still getting cutouts and bad connections. I tried listening tonight for about half an hour, and there wasn't a single song that didn't have multiple glitches. I don't know if it's a result of the quality increase or not, but I can't listen either. - -K On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Andrew Fries wrote: > On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, WretchAwry wrote: > > >I upped the quality to 48 kBit/s, 22,050 Hz Stereo (whatever that mean, I > >just know it sounds better) but it has a bad side effect of not allowing as > >many listeners, and causes drop-outs every now and then. > > I'd love to join in the chorus of appreciation because I also used to > tune in to Vickie's broadcast and enjoy it a lot. Sadly, this "upgrade" > has rendered the broadcast practically useless on my 56k connection, > where it used to stream perfectly at the lower bitrate... Yes, I'd love > to get broadband access one of those days, but for now it's back to > listening to my own CDs for me :( > > And speaking of CDs, I have some good news as well: Wendy Rule just > released "World Between Worlds" - her third studio album. Those in the > know will rejoice. Others can always find out more about Wendy at her > website . I'll probably have more to say after > I see her, and buy the record. > Note for any locals who might be reading : Wendy will play in Sydney on > the 14th, at the Harp Hotel in Tempe. Miss it at your peril. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > "Today I want to talk about piracy and music. > What is piracy? Piracy is the act of stealing > an artist's work without any intention of paying > for it. I'm not talking about Napster-type software. > I'm talking about major label recording contracts." > -- Courtney Love > ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/spot.php3 ------- > - -- - ------------- "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." - Niels Bohr - ------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Medevial baebes for sale Hi.. Have a promo copy of Medevial Baebes Undrentide for sale/trade..Its in good condition. Mail me with offers. Anna Mraia np-Caroline Trettine-Ten light years __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:13:24 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: vickie's shoutcast/Wendy Rule Hi! Kat responded: >I do have a DSL connection and normally get 100k/s transfer - I'm still >getting cutouts and bad connections. I tried listening tonight for about >half an hour, and there wasn't a single song that didn't have multiple >glitches. I don't know if it's a result of the quality increase or not, >but I can't listen either. Hmmm ... we have a T1 at work and I was still getting cutouts, but I thought it was just that my PC at work is a dinosaur that (up until yesterday) only had 32MB of RAM in it. Ah well. At least I got more RAM out of the experience. :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 07:56:01 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" Subject: Re: vickie's shoutcast On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:39:47 -0500, WretchAwry wrote: > The URL of songs played is http://64.34.20.125:8000/played.html in case > listeners miss the name of a song. (This also has a Listen option which > when clicked should hook up with the broadcast. I've never tried it though). Yes, it works fine, as long as you have an MP3 player installed correctly - that is the key. :-) Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:50:12 -0400 From: bocce ball Subject: Re: Christine Fellows when we last left our heroes, Neile Graham exclaimed: >Fans of Kristin Hersh/Veda Hille/Cat Power should check her out. and fans of the rachels too. i've been wracking my brain out trying to figure out whose voice christine's reminds me of (especially on "red letter day") but i'm still drawing a blank. regardless, i agree that _2 little birds_ is a very good record and likely to be high up on my year-end list (not that i ever have or will make such a list but, right now anyways, i think this year's albums by roy harper, sarah harmer and the eels are the only other ones which would make the cut). slow, strings, piano, gorgeous. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:58:58 -0400 From: bocce ball Subject: cory sipper when we last left our heroes, Gordoja@aol.com exclaimed: >np cory sipper "swimology" (check her out at cdbaby.com ... reminds me very >much of sinead lohan sans accent) streaming mp3s at . woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:05:20 -0400 From: bocce ball Subject: Re: project lo - waterbury when we last left our heroes, meredith exclaimed: >in the room >itself the sound was decidedly DIY. As a result, it was completely >impossible to hear Happy until a few songs in, and even after that was >fixed she was still buried in the mix. i think the only sounds being pumped through the pa system were the vocals and happy's keyboards. the room was small enough that the drums and guitars needed no additional amplification. ironically, bon's mic was the only one which sounded good. >a mini-Peter Gabriel set ("Mercy Street" and "Here Comes The Flood"), for the latter, it was really good to hear happy do the low and high parts - -- that made it sound even more like a duet than the original(s) do. >Bon Lozaga was magical on guitar, as always, the sounds he gets out the parker fly are great but i'm more in awe of his playing on the acoustic guitar. i realize that there is some audio trickery going on with his effects and all but there aren't many people who can get such a beatiful ringing metallic tone from an acoustic guitar. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:00:31 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Gray Code in DC Saturday, 5:45 PM Well, the gig was originally last night... but it turns out the sound men weren't actually there... and there was no power to much of the stage... and an alarm was blaring a few yards away for much of the evening... and a large metal sculpture came crashing down to the stage as we were setting up... so we're trying it again: I'll be performing with (a subset of) my ensemble Gray Code at Art-o-Matic (at the old Hechingers at Tenleytown) in DC Saturday at 5:30 PM. Admission is free. Info on Art-o-matic (a pretty cool massive free art show) is at http://www.artomatic.org/ Sound samples of what we sound like are at http://www.metatronpress.com/mp3/ (Actually we did play some last night too -- after we rescheduled the gig, we decided that we were set up anyway, so what da hey... and did a mostly-unplugged improv, attuning ourselves to the sound of the alarm. Which, of course, promptly shut off when we were done... *sigh*) Ya gotta just revel in the absurdity sometimes... :-) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:48:35 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: Hedningarna and Wimme at Monterey World Music festival One of the most electrifying performances I have seen in a few years, the band played with their two female vocalists and their usual and amazing array of instruments; strange looking devices with keys and windbags and strings and various chunks of wood and leather. One of the things that struck me first about the gig was the age range of the audience: I recall looking around and realizing that there were people born in every decade since the thirties. The show took place in the ballroom of the Doubletree Inn; great accoustics, a dance floor set up in the center and concert seating around the edges. I was always under the impression that Hedningarna ( Swedish for "Heathens") used a lot more synthesis and sampling on their live gigs and albums; listening to their albums I have spent time trying to figure out which instruments or synths were used on various songs. I was astonished to find out that the only sampling was used by their drummer ( sorry, I have no album cover here for the members' names), to provide very minimal rhythm loops, and the show-stopping midi-bass solo played from a tambourine with a midi pickup on it! The rest of the sounds that I had always thought were synthesized, were in fact, a wide variety of trad instruments; the Swedish bagpipes, the nyckelharpa, kind of a cross between a violin with double course strings and a keyboard, and the hurdy-gurdy; Have you ever seen a traditional folk band with two violin players playing their violins through distortion boxes? At times they sounded like an electric guitar rock band. The band had as much fun as the audience, running through a variety of songs from their four albums, improvising and goofing outrageously onstage. The two singers were having a great time, you could see them dancing backstage when they were not out front; their combined voices, working in those wonderful 15 and 18-note scales, soared and roared above the excellent mix. The performances by all were virtually flawless; these folks play out a lot! The show was opened by Wimme Saari, with whom I had a chance to talk for a while after the show. Wimme is a jokker ( traditional singer) from Lapland; his vocals sound to western ears almost indistinguishable from Native American chants and invocations ( hardly surprising really, shamanic traditions worldwide being what they are). Wimme appeared onstage in full traditional Lapp costume, with a small band consisting of a keyboard/loop player, a guitar/stringed instumentalist, and a baritone (?) sax player. His arrangements are very spare, sometimes quite stark in their simplicity, basic shamanic/trance/minimalist/techno/sort of thing, but they were really just a backdrop for Wimme's incredible voice, which boomed out across the hall, invoking images of bears, wolves, reindeer, and the countryside of his birth. ( of course, none of us understood a word, but it didn't matter in the least!) His renditions, in addition to being in his native tongue, were also heavily stylized, so as to be almost unintelligible. The effect was both staggering and uplifting, as he called forth the spirit of the bear in a traditional jokk, which had been passed down in a centuries-old oral tradition. All in all, an incredible, magical evening, for which I had been waiting a long time. There are many people in Europe who are keeping the old songs and tunes alive; Wimme and Hedningarna are two entities that are supporting this tradition, whilst simultaneously adding a wild, modernistic twist to what is already fascinating, intriguing, and very beautiful, wild-energy music. Check out both artists at their US distribution website www.noside.com. Northside has two "Nordic Roots" samplers, each with about 20 songs from various artists. Price: about $3.50. Both are great CDs and well worth thrice the cost. Regards to all Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:07:36 -0400 From: "rachel stone" Subject: Re: Christine Fellows >I just discovered Christine Fellows has a page on mp3.com so there are a >couple (literally) more samples available for her than just the one on the >endearing records site. She's got a page on The Ectophiles' Guide. And very very soon, Christine will have a page of her own (much thankages due to the tireless efforts of a certain Ectophile who may now stand up and identify herself), where you can find out all the information you need. I'll post the url when it's ready. For those Christine fans out there, she's just returned from a western Canada/northwester US mini-tour, her first solo voyage in that direction. She was joined by Veda Hille's incredible drummer, Barry Mirochnick. Right now, she's writing a lot (her new stuff is incredible) and there *may* be a live EP coming out sometime soonish, hopefully. And for anyone looking at pictures of her, she currently has very fluorescent pink shortish hair. It's utterly shocking. Rachel. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #297 **************************