From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #285 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, September 26 2000 Volume 06 : Number 285 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: How are your CDs organized [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] granada [anna maria "stjärnell" ] re: how are your cds organized [karen hester ] songs and associations (warning - long!) [Amanda Williams ] Re: How are your CDs organized [Bill Adler ] Re: How are your CDs organized ["phclark" ] re: CD filing [Valerie Richardson ] Susan McKeown's New Album - 'Lowlands' [bocchi ball ] Re: CD filing ["phclark" ] Re: Susan McKeown's New Album - 'Lowlands' [bocchi ball ] Re: How are your CDs organized [bocchi ball ] Re: How are your CDs organized [Alvin Brattli ] Outwitting squirrels [Phil Hudson ] Re: Outwitting squirrels [Joseph Zitt ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fwd:=20Jorane=20--=20Un=20nouvel=20album=20sera=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?lanc=E9=20d=E8s=20la=20mi-novembre=20/=20Launches=20a=20n?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ew...?= [] RE: How are your CDs organized ["Amy" ] Re: How are your CDs organized [Bill Adler ] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Jorane_--_Un_nouvel_album_sera_lanc=E9_d=E8s_la_mi-nov?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?embre_/_Launches_a_new...?= [] Re: Outwitting squirrels [Bill Adler ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:56:37 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: How are your CDs organized Hi, I have a bunch of plastic holders nailed to the wall.. holds about 200. On a long table made out of cinder blocks and barn wood are stacked wooden boxes..also about 200, and my stereo equp. The plastic ones have the Rock and the wooden ones have the Ecto. Each is alphabetized. Seems to me someone [here] said they had a shelf running around the entire room about 6 inches from the ceiling. One thing I have done with some already is to make 'best of..' cds. I have a stand alone cd copier (0% error rates when kept in air conditioning). I find a group or person that has more than 5 cds and really listen to decide what I can and can't live without. What's interesting are the people with 1000+ who have piles of never-listened-to cds. They may have exquisite gems or pure garbage and maybe never find out about either. PS: my spellchecker doesn't like "cds" but does like "Ecto". .............................................................. If a person borrows $20 and you never see them again, it was probably worth the investment. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: granada hi.. Check out Granada a swedish band at mp3.com..They are like the red house painters meets stina nordenstam and have an album due soon. Also check Lizette..Tori sings NIN? She has two sites, one dirty and one clean.. Anna Maria np-Granada_everyone wants to(ep) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:57:03 +1200 From: karen hester Subject: re: how are your cds organized When it comes to photos of cd clutter, Bill, you will find it hard to surpass the charm and daring of the clutter cultivated by Japanese djs and music addicts included in "Tokyo : a certain style / text & photographs by Kyoichi Tsuzuki." I think that's the book I remember, hard to tell from the catalogue record. This book had me laughing aloud at its photographs which contrast so much with the usual elegance (blah) that interior decoration glossies showcase. Many of the flats have no bathroom or kitchen, being the cheapest places in Tokyo the residents could find. Picture thousands of cds piled in closet-sized flats piled in teetering leaning towers, no floor space visible. Nice. Any library-trained folk here who have degenerated into classifying their cds by some international standard?! Regular deselection in anticipation of future clutter? I tried that with my books once, as an educational exercise :). A feature of cd clutter is that we understand our own groupings of related artists and the scattered piles aren't random to us, but ... what happens when two giant music collections, and their owners, decide to cohabit? The horror. karen. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:16:38 +1100 (EST) From: Amanda Williams Subject: songs and associations (warning - long!) Hi guys :) I know that this thread happened a while back but I have been unbelievably busy with a new full-time job, new part-time course AND a social life so I haven't been able to do much but lurk. The posts about what people rememeber when they hear certain songs again really struck a core deep inside of me. I am very right-brain dominant and so i make connections with songs and places all the time and I thought I would share a couple with you because they are actually qute interesting. The first song is "wonderful life" by Black. It came out in about 1997 or so..and I taped it..picture me driving around the (former) Yugoslavian countrysides, going up, down and through mountains (it is 85% mountainous), looking out the window at this amazing country.12 years on I still get drawn back to that drive. Freaky. The next is the album "Dummy" by Portishead. I got into Portishead in a big way during my very messy breakup of my 11 year relationship. I moved out of my partner's house into this shared house in the inner city. When the proverbial sh*t had been hitting the fan, I had been unable to sleep for about 8 weeks. Now that I was by myself, I was beginning to sleep again, but was still having great trouble. What I would do is put on Dummy and it suited my despair..I would leave it on softly while getting to sleep and the honeyed tones of Beth Gibbons would wash over me and send me into a doze, which was the best I could hope for at the tiem. I got better, and met a guy that I fell for in a big way. We would chill at this really cool bar that I found called "spleen" and would sit upstairs on this battered and uncomfortable couch and get to know each other and build our relationship..and this bar, every night that we went, played "Dummy" and also played "Protection" by Massive Attack. So my associations with Dummy have changed from an album which I identify with while I was at a dead end in my life, to a bittersweet mixture of warmth and pain..but mainly the warmth. Last year my husband (cos I married him :) and I went to this restaurant in the burbs and what should be played but "Dummy"! We collapsed laughing and the waiting staff prolly thought we were headcases. Then there is "Marta's Song" by Deep Forest. I first heard this song on the radio in the early 90's when my family and I were going on a holiday to Adelaide and I at first associated it with driving through the verdant wine region known as the Clare Valley, along with Enigma's Cross of Changes, which came out about the same time. When my partner and I split up, of course we had to divvy up the cd collection, and so I had to trawl the secondhand stores cos I could not afford to get them new, what with establishing a new home etc. Anyway, I found a copy of Boheme, and I didn't know the album that well and llistened to it in the tstore, and when I heard track 3 myu eyes filled with tears..that song was just so beautiful and mournful and soulful..I bought it and took it home and began to alternate it with "Dummy" to get me to sleep...When I listen to it now, it does me back to that time, but there is also the bittersweet joyh that comes with finding your soulmate and starting your life _completely_ afresh. I could go on, but I think that I have said enough for now. I shall retreat back into the shadows. I hope that I have not bored the pants off you all :) *wave* amanda ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ooooooooooooooooooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I will never be by violence constrained to do anything. I thank God I am indeed endowed with such qualities that if I were turned out of the realm in my petticoat I were able to live in any place in Christendom. - -Elizabeth I to Parliament, responding to their Marriage Petition, 1566 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 04:59:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Basque at Metro Cafe at 8pm Tonight. Basque are playing in DC at the Metro Cafe at 14th and P Streets. Tickets are $7. I plan to go tonite. Anyone else up to the tasque? Email me. - --Craigasque. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:36:09 -0400 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: How are your CDs organized Seems like the only solution is to copy all of your CDs to a computer hard drive (not compressed, of course; that would degrade the quality.) Let's see, 750 CDs would take up only about 375,000 megabytes. 2,000 CDs would occupy about 1 million megs. Hmm. Meredith -- too bad I didn't post this question earlier. I was in the New Haven neck of the woods during the summer. Actually in Middletown, visiting my old college. If you happen to snap a photo of your CDs, let me know. This is one picture where you're allowed to have things messy. They'll be a big mention of the Ecto list in Outwitting Clutter -- thanks everyone for your thoughts. Meanwhile, it strikes me that one of the big problems with organizing CDs - --decluttering them-- is not organizing the CDs themselves. The problem is leaving enough room for *new* CDs. Every time I think I have my CDs neatly arranged, another half dozen magically appear. I just stack those new CDs without rearranging my old ones. Then another bunch of CDs arrive; they, too, just get stacked. Without warning, my CDs are a mess. The key to declutting CDs, which I can't seem to accomplish yet, is to set aside at least 50 percent extra space when organizing a CD collection. One day, perhaps. - --Bill n.p. The Velvet Janes, "Live at the Velvet Lounge" At 12:07 AM 9/26/00 -0400, you wrote: Hi! Bill inquired: >Does anyone have an especially wonderful --or failed-- ways of organizing CDs? Ah, the perennial question comes around again. Here at the House O'Muzak we have a space issue, as well as a problem with fundamental laziness. As a result, our CDs are arranged chronologically, by default. The 1600 CDs that are in the racks in the living room date from the time (several years ago, now) when we had both the space to put all of our CDs into racks, and the time to alphabetize the entire collection. It's done by artist, and CDs are arranged chronologically within each artist. Compilations and soundtracks are alphabetized by title in their own section, then Classical is alphabetized by composer. Everything we've accumulated since, oh, 1995 (which is somewhere around 2400 more CDs at this point) is piled somewhere, probably in the computer room, either in the bookshelf or on the computer desk or on woj's desk or in shorter piles all over the floor. If a CD isn't there, it's in the piles on top of the stereo speaker in the living room corner or on the coffee table or the bookshelf in the hall or on one of the shelves in the dining room. I found a CD in the bathroom once. Hell, I even think there are some CDs in the kitchen at the moment. Whenever I'm looking for something I ask woj where it is, because only he has any vague notion of which pile to look in. We have a dearth of wall space, so wall-mounted storage units aren't an option, and free-standing units aren't going to work too well either. I *hate* those plastic sleeves (makes it impossible to find anything, and they slide all over the place when you try to put them into neat little piles). So I guess it's continued pileage for us ... though Bill, I look forward to your book. I'm sure it will prove quite useful for us. :) (If you want another model of "how NOT to store your CDs", just head on up to New Haven with your camera and we'll be happy to oblige. :}) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:50:14 -0700 From: "phclark" Subject: Re: How are your CDs organized At the risk of sounding as anal retentive as this actually is... Fancy filing systems etc., etc., have one major problem, someone has to do it. In large/largish collections this can get out of hand pretty quickly. To some extent, there isn't much point in having a "collection" if you can't find something you know you have, no matter how long it's been since you played it. Alphabet works, male/female works, classical/nonclassical works. And where do you put Anne Dudley & Jaz Coleman? when you don't actually own any Art of Noise? Hell, the other day I was looking for the soundtrack for "The Harder They Come" on vinyl. I *Know* I have it, it's on my anal retentive Excel music list (which by its nature must be alphabetical), but all I could find was the cd, but that's not what I wanted to hear. I try to avoid clutter in order to prevent physical damage to the LPs and cds like in college (and later) days of yore when they were just stacked on the floor out of their sleeve/jackets. And also, in my declining years, to be able to find them at all, see above. Keeping it simple enhances the possibility that it will actually get done. Anne may have to take care of herself, and how *do* you file "The Harder They Come?" Male? Cliff? Reggae? Sound track? Various? My $0.02. Peter C - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Adler" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 8:36 AM Subject: Re: How are your CDs organized > Seems like the only solution is to copy all of your CDs to a computer hard > drive (not compressed, of course; that would degrade the quality.) Let's > see, 750 CDs would take up only about 375,000 megabytes. 2,000 CDs would > occupy about 1 million megs. Hmm. > > Meredith -- too bad I didn't post this question earlier. I was in the New > Haven neck of the woods during the summer. Actually in Middletown, > visiting my old college. If you happen to snap a photo of your CDs, let me > know. This is one picture where you're allowed to have things messy. > > They'll be a big mention of the Ecto list in Outwitting Clutter -- thanks > everyone for your thoughts. > > Meanwhile, it strikes me that one of the big problems with organizing CDs > --decluttering them-- is not organizing the CDs themselves. The problem is > leaving enough room for *new* CDs. Every time I think I have my CDs neatly > arranged, another half dozen magically appear. I just stack those new CDs > without rearranging my old ones. Then another bunch of CDs arrive; they, > too, just get stacked. Without warning, my CDs are a mess. The key to > declutting CDs, which I can't seem to accomplish yet, is to set aside at > least 50 percent extra space when organizing a CD collection. One day, > perhaps. > > --Bill > > n.p. The Velvet Janes, "Live at the Velvet Lounge" > > At 12:07 AM 9/26/00 -0400, you wrote: > > Hi! > > Bill inquired: > > >Does anyone have an especially wonderful --or failed-- ways of organizing > CDs? > > Ah, the perennial question comes around again. > > Here at the House O'Muzak we have a space issue, as well as a problem with > fundamental laziness. As a result, our CDs are arranged chronologically, > by default. The 1600 CDs that are in the racks in the living room date > from the time (several years ago, now) when we had both the space to put > all of our CDs into racks, and the time to alphabetize the entire > collection. It's done by artist, and CDs are arranged chronologically > within each artist. Compilations and soundtracks are alphabetized by title > in their own section, then Classical is alphabetized by composer. > > Everything we've accumulated since, oh, 1995 (which is somewhere around > 2400 more CDs at this point) is piled somewhere, probably in the computer > room, either in the bookshelf or on the computer desk or on woj's desk or > in shorter piles all over the floor. If a CD isn't there, it's in the > piles on top of the stereo speaker in the living room corner or on the > coffee table or the bookshelf in the hall or on one of the shelves in the > dining room. I found a CD in the bathroom once. Hell, I even think there > are some CDs in the kitchen at the moment. Whenever I'm looking for > something I ask woj where it is, because only he has any vague notion of > which pile to look in. > > We have a dearth of wall space, so wall-mounted storage units aren't an > option, and free-standing units aren't going to work too well either. I > *hate* those plastic sleeves (makes it impossible to find anything, and > they slide all over the place when you try to put them into neat little > piles). So I guess it's continued pileage for us ... though Bill, I look > forward to your book. I'm sure it will prove quite useful for us. :) > > (If you want another model of "how NOT to store your CDs", just head on up > to New Haven with your camera and we'll be happy to oblige. :}) > > +==========================================================================+ > | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | > | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | > +==========================================================================+ > | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | > | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | > | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | > +==========================================================================+ > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:20:56 -0400 From: Valerie Richardson Subject: re: CD filing I was so heartened by Meredith's description of her dysfunctional CD organization. I theoretically have everything alphabetized by artist, but I haven't really had the time to file them correctly for a year and a half. I also moved from a larger apartment to a much smaller one three years ago, and I still have a lot of CDs in boxes. I also have the problem of people sending me CDs that I don't want. Since I do a show at our local community radio station, everyone and their cousin sends me their CD in hopes of getting it on the air. A lot of them are really horrible, but I hate getting rid of them since someone went to all of the trouble of sending the things to me. But I hate to file something really awful next to something I like. (Let me hasten to add that I also receive some fabulous things, especially from people in the Ecto community). My college radio station alphabetized everything and gave it a number. They used the same decimal point system that someone described earlier. The station I'm at now has its 30,000+ CDs and 30,000+ albums arranged in the order in which they arrive at the station, numbered sequentially. The big problem with this system is that if something gets misfiled in the stacks, it might take forever for it to be found again. - --Valerie Richardson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:19:44 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: Susan McKeown's New Album - 'Lowlands' latest mailshot from sheila-na-gig...pardon any funky formatting since the original was not plain-text. woj >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:43:45 -0400 >To: sngmusic@earthlink.net >From: Sheila-na-Gig Music >Subject: Susan McKeown's New Album - 'Lowlands' > >Dear Friends, > >We are delighted to announce the release of 'Lowlands', the new album from >Susan McKeown on Green Linnet Records. The release date is today, Tuesday, >September 26. > >Susan and The Chanting House will perform a couple of East Coast dates, and >then Susan is off to tour with Aidan Brennan in the UK, opening for Sean >Keane, and one gig in Dublin, Ireland (details on all dates below). > > >A couple of reviews of 'Lowlands' are already in: > >Barnes&Noble.com > >"The bold Susan McKeown does the New York Irish community proud with this >colorful set of ballads. Whether Scottish or Irish, in English or Gaelic, >old or new, her taste is for the sad, the wistful, and the bitter, with the >occasional triumph of the spirit that drops some honey on the lemon. Her >gifted musical compatriots come from all over the world: New York, Ireland, >Spain, India, Mali, and China, and while each makes a unique contribution, >the Celtic tradition of choosing personally meaningful tunes handed down from >inspirational balladeers goes on undiminished. > >Indeed, McKeown, who dropped out of an Irish opera academy to wander the >streets of Dublin, has chosen well: Tales of exile, rescue, infanticide, >emergency cannibalism, and hares cornered by the hounds are all archetypal >Celtic fare. Perhaps the most stunning cut is her a cappella version of >"Dark Horse on the Wind" by Liam Weldon, a brilliantly concise, heartbreaking >expression of the bleak, continual struggle that is Ireland. McKeown sings it >with great beauty and total conviction. And as they say, the further from >Ireland one gets, the more Irish one becomes." > >-- Emily King > >>>>> > >Time Out New York >Issue No. 253 > >"Classically trained songwriter Susan McKeown arrived here from Ireland >ten years ago, after forsaking a career in opera. Bred on religious music >but enamored with like-minded folk souls such as Michelle Shocked, McKeown >pairs Gaelic yarns about stormy rivers and star-crossed lovers with >polyrhythmic percussion and her fierce alto vocals. > >On her forthcoming CD, 'Lowlands', the Dublin native offers up a >contemporary blend of Celtic folk rock mixed with primal-sounding >percussion and a haunting undercurrent of flutes. On its opening track, >"An Nighean Dubh/The Dark Haired Girl," McKeown uses undulating lyrical >repetition for a dreamlike effect. Elsewhere, on "Neansai Og Ni >Obarlain/Nancy Oberlin," deep-bass bleats accompany her spiritual voice, >and she later applies those stately vocals to the a cappella cut "Dark >Horse on the Wind." Lúnasa lend a sweet, forlorn quality to the cut "To >Fair London Town."... > >--Karen Iris Tucker > >>>>> > >Scotland's Music Store - http://www.sms.clara.net > >"Dublin's Susan McKeown has made a name for herself in traditional >circles with her arresting, moody voice and spot-on harmonies. 'Lowlands' >is a beautiful album mixing traditional songs in both Irish and English >languages with a variety of exotic but subtle world music arrangements. >The musicians she has recruited include premier artists from America, >Scotland, India, Africa and China including Glen Moore, Johnny Cunningham, >Lunasa and Joanie Madden. A powerful album from start to finish." > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONCERT DATES >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >SUSAN McKEOWN & THE CHANTING HOUSE > > > Friday, October 6 - PRISM / Charlottesville, VA 8:00pm > > w/ Lindsey Horner, Jon Spurney, Joe Trump > Tickets & info: 804/97PRISM > http://www.theprism.org/ > > > Saturday, October 7 - THE BOTTOM LINE, New York, NY 7:30 & 10pm > > w/ Lindsey Horner, Jon Spurney, Joe Trump, Michelle Kinney, & guests > Tickets & info: 212/228-6300 > http://www.bottomlinecabaret.com/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >SUSAN McKEOWN with AIDAN BRENNAN > >Susan will be on tour in England in October opening for Sean Keane >[www.seankeane.com] at the following venues: > > Thursday, 12th October - The Brook, Southampton, 8:30pm. > Tickets : (023) 80555366 - The Brook [http://www.the-brook.com/] > > Friday, 13th October - Union Chapel, Islington, London, 8:00pm. > Ticketmaster: 0870 534 44 44 & Ticketmaster outlets > > Sunday, 15th October - The Irish Centre, Birmingham, 8.30pm. > Tickets - 0121 6244444 > > Wednesday 18th October - Band on the Wall > [http://www.bandonthewall.com/], > Manchester, 8.30pm. > 0161 8341786/ 24 hr: 0161 8330682/ 0161 8320183 > > Thursday, 19th October - Irish Centre, Leeds > [http://www.Liveinleeds.com/irish.htm], 8.00pm. > 0113 2480887 > > > Friday, 20 October - The Cobblestones, Dublin, Ireland > 01/872-1799 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >SUSAN McKEOWN & JOHNNY CUNNINGHAM > >"Songs for the Winter Season Tour" > >November - December 2000 >East Coast, West Coast, Great Lakes - Dates to be announced soon! >************************ >Sheila-na-Gig Music, LLC >http://www.sheilanagig.com >Tel: 212-260-2302 >Fax: 212-260-9645 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:53:45 -0700 From: "phclark" Subject: Re: CD filing - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Richardson" To: "Ecto" Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 10:20 AM Subject: re: CD filing > numbered sequentially. > The big problem with this system is that if something gets misfiled in > the stacks, it might take forever for it to be found again. > > --Valerie Richardson This is a problem with any large number of items. I have cds and lps that aren't on the anal retentive Excel list, but unless Iwrite them down when I come across them, they stay in limbo. Good thing they don't eat much. Peter C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:47:43 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: Re: Susan McKeown's New Album - 'Lowlands' >> Saturday, October 7 - THE BOTTOM LINE, New York, NY 7:30 & 10pm >> w/ Lindsey Horner, Jon Spurney, Joe Trump, Michelle Kinney, & guests >> Tickets & info: 212/228-6300 >> http://www.bottomlinecabaret.com/ by the way, i just noticed on the bottom line's website (they finally have one!) that they take e-mail reservations for shows now. very convienent, if you want to save yourself a trip to their box office. full details, etc. are at their site. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:21:00 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: Re: How are your CDs organized when we last left our heroes, Bill Adler exclaimed: >I'm asking in part because I'm looking for a better method, but also >because I'm writing a book on organizing stuff. The book, Outwitting >Clutter, will be the latest in the Outwitting series, which includes >Outwitting Squirrels, Outwitting Toddlers and Outwitting Neighbors. but what if you want to outwit order? (or at least anal-virgo meredith....) personally, i find clutter -- or at least the appearance of clutter -- to be much more comforting than neatnik tidiness. bleah! (though i have to admit it would be nice to see the top of the desk sometime....) woj n.p. tori amos -- broome county arena, binghamton, ny 11/10/98 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:21:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Alvin Brattli Subject: Re: How are your CDs organized On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Meredith wrote: >Here at the House O'Muzak we have a space issue, as well as a problem with >fundamental laziness. As a result, our CDs are arranged chronologically, >by default. The 1600 CDs that are in the racks in the living room date >from the time (several years ago, now) when we had both the space to put >all of our CDs into racks, and the time to alphabetize the entire >collection. This reminds me that in July 1996, I made a rough estimate on how many CDs you had in those racks. At that time, if I remember correctly, practically all your CDs lived in those racks, and they were pretty much full. The number I arrived at was ~1600, so it seems I made a pretty accurate estimate back then :) >Everything we've accumulated since, oh, 1995 (which is somewhere around >2400 more CDs at this point) Geez! I've spent ~10 years collecting my 427 CDs, and you guys acquire more than that in _one_ year, meaning that you fill up your house with CDs more than 10 times faster than me! :) Oh well, to get back on topic: How do _I_ organize my CDs? Well, I do it the really boring way, keeping them in a bookshelf (with some room on each shelf for additions), alphabetized by artist (which means that I keep Natalie Merchant separate from 10k Maniacs and Björk separate from Sugarcubes), and chronologically by release year for each artist. Classical music, movie sound tracks and jazz are kept separate. Jazz is alphabetized, but the other two are sorted less strictly. Other exceptions are CDs with various artists, which I really haven't found a system on yet, but often just put them next to the artist I mentally connect the CD with. I once tried to sort them by category, using my favourite artists as references, and put the rest next to them in whatever order I felt they were "close" to those, musically. Being restricted to only 2D (horizontally and vertically), I soon gave up this, as it was a nightmare to maintain as I changed my mind as to where each artist belonged way too often. One nightmarish scheme I would _not_ like to try goes along the lines of the famous Foyles bookstore in London which (at least as far as physics and mathematics is concerned) sort their books primarily by publisher, field, and then by something else. For CDs, this would amount to sorting the CDs primarily by label, then by type of music (rock, pop, jazz, etc.), and then either by artist or chronologically. aLViN - -- :r .signature ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:59:16 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: Outwitting squirrels The fact that someone would write a book titled thusly fascinates me. Bill, is this a hobby, or a chore born out of necessity? It almost sounds like the title of a Dilbert compilation. I live in the Redwoods where the squirrels use the phone lines as an overhead freeway, so I get to interact somewhat with them, but have never even thought of matching wits with them, let alone outwitting them. ( I'm playing it safe; never start a fight you can't win is my motto :). But how does one outwit a squirrel? And for what reasons? And how do you know you *really* won? They might be just toying with you.... ( And don't tell me to read the book, or I'll send you a family of raccoons in the mail :) Phil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:30:48 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Outwitting squirrels On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:59:16AM -0700, Phil Hudson wrote: > But how does one outwit a squirrel? And for what reasons? > And how do you know you *really* won? They might be just toying with you.... Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:59:11 EDT From: MRL220@aol.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fwd:=20Jorane=20--=20Un=20nouvel=20album=20sera=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?lanc=E9=20d=E8s=20la=20mi-novembre=20/=20Launches=20a=20n?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ew...?= - --part1_3f.ab8e170.27025a0f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems like there will be a new Jorane CD in November - --part1_3f.ab8e170.27025a0f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.3) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:53:10 -0400 Received: from 2n5.webex.net (2n5.webex.net [208.17.148.5]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:52:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 7880 invoked by uid 102); 26 Sep 2000 19:49:19 -0000 Date: 26 Sep 2000 19:49:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000926194919.7879.qmail@2n5.webex.net> To: mrl220@aol.com From: info@dkd.com Subject: Jorane -- Un nouvel album sera lancé dès la mi-novembre / Launches a new album in mid November X-Mailer: Unknown English version to follow... JORANE Un nouvel album sera lancé dès la mi-novembre Un an et demi après la sortie de son premier album « Vent Fou » et déjà prête à présenter le second, Jorane nous propose du nouveau matériel où les mots s’éclipsent totalement pour faire place à l’harmonie de sa voix et de son violoncelle dans une atmosphère qui n’est pas sans rappeler les sonorités ambiantes du septième art. Percussions, contre-basse, violoncelle & voix additionnelle accompagnent Jorane à travers les 16 vignettes qui composent ce second album, disponible en magasin le 7 novembre prochain sous l’étiquette TACCA Musique. Note : Vous êtes présentement inscrit sur notre ancienne liste d’envoie. Visitez notre site internet au www.dkd.com pour redevenir membre et courrez la chance de gagner une copie autographiée du second album de Jorane qui devrait s’appeler « Seize millimètres ». Votre nom sera aussi entré dans un tirage pour assister au lancement de Jorane le 14 novembre prochain. Si vous vous êtes déjà ré-inscrit à la nouvelle liste d’envoi, s’il vous plaît ne pas tenir compte du dernier parahraphe. Ceci sera le dernier courriel que vous recevrez de cette liste d’envoi. Merci. Les internautes sont invités à visiter le nouveau site de Jorane au www.jorane.com. _______________________________________ JORANE Launches a new album in mid November Only a year and a half after the release of her first album « Vent Fou », Jorane is now ready to release her second album, tentatively entitled “Seize millimètres”. On the new album lyrics will give place to the harmony of her voice and the melodies of her cello in an atmosphere reminiscent of the ambient nature of film soundtracks. Percussions, contra bass, cello and voice accompany Jorane through 16 segments which promise to carry us further into her world than ever before. “Seize millimeters” will be available in stores on November 7th under the label TACCA Musique. Note: You are currently listed on our old mailing list. Visit out new web site at www.dkd.com and become a member and you will have a chance to win an autographed copy of Jorane’s new album as well as tickets to the album launch on November 14th. If you have already re-registered, then please disregard the last paragraph. This is the last e-mail you will receive from the old mailing list. Web surfers are invited to visit Jorane’s new site at www.jorane.com. - --part1_3f.ab8e170.27025a0f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:00:58 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: How are your CDs organized Hi there, I thought I would throw my .02 in... Alvin wrote: > alphabetized by artist (which means that I > keep Natalie Merchant separate from 10k Maniacs and Björk separate from > Sugarcubes), and chronologically by release year for each artist. That is exactly what I do. I keep almost everything in one alphabet series except Classical (which I don't have much of) and soundtracks/various artists which are on a seperate shelf in order of name of CD. They are all on those little flimsy shelves you get at Best Buy that look like crates. They are nailed to the wall at approximately eye level. Problem is, we have filled them all up and we'd have to start on another wall now because all the walls in our house are filled with windows or doors so there is no good space for them. I am interested in any suggestions on this...It is very handy but I think it looks like crap. Oh and we can't have anything lower than about 4 feet from the ground because we have a dog that thinks CDs are great crunchy treats and he will pull them right off the wall if he can reach. Then I go one step further and I have everything we own on an excel spreadsheet which I just add to whenever I get a new CD (or three). I intend on importing this into Access at some point and then including the song titles. The Excel thing I have now is just Artist Name, CD name, year published and a type (like it's a bootleg or something). OK so that's me... ~Amy Women In Music http://www.ecalos.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:13:06 -0400 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: How are your CDs organized Yes, that's an excellent point: If you devise a system that's too complex, you'll never implement it. (I won't.) When I burn CDs for the car (I don't like to keep the "originals" in a hot car), I used to diligently write down the names of the songs on each of the CD sleeves. Then it dawned on me: I don't read the song titles while I'm driving. Why should I expend the energy doing that? Half the time it took to burn a CD was actually taken by my writing down the song information on the newly created CD. Once I stopped writing down the information, I stopped using jewel boxes. Instead of taking up two large CD stackers, my car CDs are now in little folders....and my family is much happier not to have a cluttered front door. The CDs in my office are another matter, though. Sigh. - --Bill n.p. Naimee Coleman, "Silver Wrists" At 09:50 AM 9/26/00 -0700, you wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At the risk of sounding as anal retentive as this actually is... Fancy filing systems etc., etc., have one major problem, someone has to do it. In large/largish collections this can get out of hand pretty quickly. To some extent, there isn't much point in having a "collection" if you can't find something you know you have, no matter how long it's been since you played it. Alphabet works, male/female works, classical/nonclassical works. And where do you put Anne Dudley & Jaz Coleman? when you don't actually own any Art of Noise? Hell, the other day I was looking for the soundtrack for "The Harder They Come" on vinyl. I *Know* I have it, it's on my anal retentive Excel music list (which by its nature must be alphabetical), but all I could find was the cd, but that's not what I wanted to hear. I try to avoid clutter in order to prevent physical damage to the LPs and cds like in college (and later) days of yore when they were just stacked on the floor out of their sleeve/jackets. And also, in my declining years, to be able to find them at all, see above. Keeping it simple enhances the possibility that it will actually get done. Anne may have to take care of herself, and how *do* you file "The Harder They Come?" Male? Cliff? Reggae? Sound track? Various? My $0.02. Peter C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:06:42 -0400 From: "rachel stone" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Jorane_--_Un_nouvel_album_sera_lanc=E9_d=E8s_la_mi-nov?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?embre_/_Launches_a_new...?= >Seems like there will be a new Jorane CD in November From what I know, it will apparently be a lot of wordless songs, a lot of sparse moods and intense vocalizing without actual lyrics. It sounded really interesting when she described it. Rachel. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:26:04 -0400 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: Outwitting squirrels Phil, Squirrels ruined my social life. It was about 15 years ago and I was single, living in an apartment not too far from the National Zoo in Washington, DC. (I had mostly LPs then, but that's another story.) I wanted a pet, but pets weren't allowed in the building. A friend of mine suggested getting a birdfeeder. Why would I want a birdfeeder? I asked. (I was from New York City and couldn't believe that anyone would want to attract pigeons to their window.) No, no, my friend said. The feeder will attract cardinals, blue jays, chickadees, and more. Whatever. So I put up my feeder -- the kind with suction cups on a window. The first day I got nothing. The second day I got a squirrel! Not just at the feeder, but *in* my feeder. The squirrel was lounging as it was eating. Then the squirrel told its friends and more squirrels came. I used to shout at the squirrels, even when I was on the telephone: "Get the *blank* out of here," I would scream. People thought I was talking to them. Potential dates hung up. So I had to write a book. While writing Outwitting Squirrels I did discover --and here's the Ecto-relevant part-- that squirrels especially don't like Sinatra or Led Zeppelin. If you play that music loud enough the squirrels go away. Your neighbors also call the cops, but at least the squirrels are gone for a while. Here's my feeling about outwitting squirrels: If we can't outwit squirrels, who have brains the size of peanuts, how can we expect to get a person to Mars? Or let me put it differently, if we can't outwit squirrels, how can we expect to organize our CDs? - --Bill P.S. Over 20 publishers rejected the book. Can't understand why... n.p. Naimee Coleman, "Silver Wrists" At 11:59 AM 9/26/00 -0700, you wrote: The fact that someone would write a book titled thusly fascinates me. Bill, is this a hobby, or a chore born out of necessity? It almost sounds like the title of a Dilbert compilation. I live in the Redwoods where the squirrels use the phone lines as an overhead freeway, so I get to interact somewhat with them, but have never even thought of matching wits with them, let alone outwitting them. ( I'm playing it safe; never start a fight you can't win is my motto :). But how does one outwit a squirrel? And for what reasons? And how do you know you *really* won? They might be just toying with you.... ( And don't tell me to read the book, or I'll send you a family of raccoons in the mail :) Phil ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #285 **************************