From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #247 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, August 26 2000 Volume 06 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- cindy lee berryhill southern us tour [neal copperman ] Re: Suzanne de Bussac and using happy to test new speakers [Yngve Hauge <] Re: Suzanne de Bussac and using happy to test new speakers [Phillip Clark] Bettie Serveert... [Andrew Fries ] Re: dogs songs [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] Re: Suzanne de Bussac and using happy to test new speakers [Marla Tiara <] Re: Bettie Serveert... [Marla Tiara ] A request from Happy...an ebay auction... [WretchAwry ] dar (was Re: Bettie Serveert...) [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: dar (was Re: Bettie Serveert...) [jjhanson@att.net] to test new speakers [Phil Hudson ] gabriel touring?! [Jeffrey Burka ] Ultimate Collections [jjhanson@att.net] Re: Ultimate Collections [Neal Copperman ] Re: gabriel touring?! [Neal Copperman ] Re: Ultimate Collections [jjhanson@att.net] testing new speakers [John Drummond ] oh and one more thing [John Drummond ] Re: oh and one more thing [jjhanson@att.net] Re: gabriel touring?! [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: dogs songs ["Brian Errickson" ] Re: testing new speakers ["Russ Van Rooy" ] Re: testing new speakers [Sue Trowbridge ] Re: dar (was Re: Bettie Serveert...) [meredith ] OtR/Stickman Jones [meredith ] Re: testing new speakers [Paul Kim ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 01:36:29 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: cindy lee berryhill southern us tour I saw a remarcable notice in my local paper yesterday: "In My Living Room: Want to have a minor folk-rock legend perform in your very own living room? Cindy Lee Berryhill, the only singer/songwriter who combines elements of Richard Thompson, Jonathon Richman and Brian Wilson into one entirely engaging and unique whole, is scheduling one of her periodic Living Room Tours around the off days as her opening act for The John Doe Thing this fall. ... [info on Doe tour problems and dates ignored.] " Needless to say, within a day I had House Concert #5 worked out. September 30th, CLB hits my place. Cindy Lee asked if there are any ectophiles on her route that would be interested in hosting a house concert. I think it's pretty slim pickings in the south and southwest, but here are her tour dates. Feel free to forward this to any other lists or friends who might be able to help her out. She can be contacted at cindyleeberryhill@yahoo.com Here are the dates and venues for the John Doe tour: Sept 30 - Neal's house, Albuquerque NM (neal@swcp.com) Oct. 3-Austin,TX at Emos Oct. 4-Dallas at Gypsy Tea Room Oct. 5-Houston at Instant Karma Oct. 6-New Orleans at Shimsham's Oct 11 or thereabouts - tentative show in Tucson So, space in the pre-Sept 30 treck from souther CA, from ABQ to Austin, and on the return trek from New Orleans neal np: Lucinda Williams - Lucinda Williams ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:11:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Suzanne de Bussac and using happy to test new speakers On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 Gordoja@aol.com wrote: > on a totally unrealted note, i have been looking to buy a new stereo and > speakers and have been using Happy's "if wishes were horses, how beggars > would ride" as a benchmark to hear the differences between speakers... > > what song/artist would you recommend to test out a new pair of speakers? To test the lower ranges of the speakers - He Will Come from Equipoise - most speakers I've heard can't take that pulse in the beginning of the song. Tori's Little Earthquake is a good album because of its clearity. Perfume Tree's A lifetime away ... is also a very good one. > the speakers i like the most so far are b&w cdm 1se's...anyone have any input? Depending on the hi-fi components of course - cause b&w are very heavy and needs very much power to get something out of (even the smaller ones). I don't know if you can get hold on the norwegian made Patos speakers - they are the best ones in the $500-2000 range I've ever heard. They really play music!! :) - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:19:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Phillip Clark Subject: Re: Suzanne de Bussac and using happy to test new speakers > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 Gordoja@aol.com wrote: > what song/artist would you recommend to test out a new pair of speakers? In the early 1980s a British newspaper - the Guardian, I think - talked about "The June Tabor Test" when buying new equipment. June is a leading light on the UK folk scene, although these days she does covers of most writers from Dylan to Elvis Costello to Richard Thompson, and has a truly amazing voice. At the time there were only three of her albums available - - Airs & Graces, Ashes and diamonds and A Cut Above - and her voice was considered to be extremely difficult for any but the best equipment to reproduce accurately. Phillip Clark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:02:41 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Bettie Serveert... Driving home today I turned the radio on - just in time to hear this nice, poppy but sufficiently interesting tune, rocking along gently, and the voice... the voice sounded vaguely familiar. Hmm... kind of like Carol Van Dijk... ah, I used to like Bettie Serveert... it's a pity they must be history by now... she really reminds me of Carol, but the overall sound is quite different, a lot less guitar driven... well, OK, to cut to the chase: it was indeed a new single from Bettie Serveert! It's been 3 years since "Dust Bunnies" and I pretty much wrote them off, but they've always had a special place in my heart so I'm delighted to bring you the good tidings. There is more: they get a lot of extra brownie points in my book for going indie - the new CD this single comes from will be released on their own label, "Palomine". And another thing that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside is they are also releasing a split single with Twelve24, our own local indie popsters. Funny, considering Twelve24 are a tiny, tiny band from Sydney and Bettie Serveert are not-so-big band from Amsterdam (I think?) but that's the great thing about our times, isn't it? Apart from the physical distance these two are a match made in heaven; they share the same pop guitar-driven sensibility and it would be very natural for them to hang out and play together... maybe in Sydney... well, one can hope, right? I'm sorry but in all the excitement the name of the song I heard and the new album escaped me completely! Historical note for our younger members: Bettie Serveert burst into the indie scene in 92, with "Palomine". Combining heartbreaking vulnerability and wide open innocence with rocking-out numbers, almost 70s-like guitar solos and jangly and somewhat low-fi production, they fit with indie-pop crowd like Fuzzy, perhaps Belly and Juliana Hatfield... "Lamprey" followed in 95. Released by Matador ("Palomine" came out on Guernica, offshot of 4AD), it was still good, but didn't break any new ground. Which was OK by me - if they found their sound, why should they change it? But with "Dust Bunnies" in 97 even I had to admit they appeared stuck. Long silence, and probably a period of soul-searching followed (as well as the usual label difficulties, I imagine), but if the song I just heard is any indication they found something new to say. I'm looking forward to this new album with excitement I didn't think I could muster after their last effort... np: Palomine - ------------------------------------------------------ "Today I want to talk about piracy and music. What is piracy? Piracy is the act of stealing an artist's work without any intention of paying for it. I'm not talking about Napster-type software. I'm talking about major label recording contracts." -- Courtney Love - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/spot.php3 ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:41:42 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: Re: dogs songs "Slow Dog" by Belly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 05:57:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Marla Tiara Subject: Re: Suzanne de Bussac and using happy to test new speakers > > what song/artist would you recommend to test out a > new pair of speakers? I'd use Blood Roses by Tori Amos (possibly a great live version even...) - that will test the highs... Also, a friend used to make me crank Gush Forth My Tears by Miranda Sex Garden - they REALLY nail those high notes :) lurking away marla (tiara) ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Famous people wearing my tiara: http://www.marlatiara.com (*updated 8/12/00 - Sarah Slean!) "We have a new favorite vegetable which is ASPARAGUS" - Lionrock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 05:59:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Marla Tiara Subject: Re: Bettie Serveert... > well, OK, to cut to the chase: it was indeed a new > single from Bettie > Serveert! :) I used to love Bettie Serveert :) I believe the new album is available at http://www.parasol.com (a great site for all your indie artist needs) I'm not behaving as a lurker today. marla (tiara) (hoping to maybe get Dar Williams to wear it today) ===== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Famous people wearing my tiara: http://www.marlatiara.com (*updated 8/12/00 - Sarah Slean!) "We have a new favorite vegetable which is ASPARAGUS" - Lionrock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:03:35 -0500 From: WretchAwry Subject: A request from Happy...an ebay auction... Hey gang, from the lady herself: - ------------------------------------------------------------- "I just saw on Ebay, that 'estiproph' is selling a Warpaint that is SIGNED. It's item #418844513. He doesn't include a picture in the ad. I'm concerned about this one. I need everyone to be forewarned. Ask for a picture of the autographed copy. If you aren't sure it's MINE, email the photo to me at cptbryant@aol.com and I'll try to authenticate it." - ------------------------------------------------------------ Good idea. I already emailed this bozo to ask why there's no photo. V. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:27:48 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Bettie Serveert... On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Andrew Fries wrote: > well, OK, to cut to the chase: it was indeed a new single from Bettie > Serveert! It's been 3 years since "Dust Bunnies" and I pretty much wrote > them off, but they've always had a special place in my heart so I'm it's been three years since _dust bunnies_ but only a year and a half since _venus in furs_, a live album of all velvet underground covers, that, imnsho is well worth the effort to seek out. and incidentally, they're *really* good live. some of the best ensemble playing i've seen from an indie-rock act. - -- d. np gathering _mandylion_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:47:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: dar (was Re: Bettie Serveert...) marla tiara sez: >(hoping to maybe get Dar Williams to wear it today) speaking of Dar, WRNR yesterday played a song of hers I'd never heard before, "What Do You Love More Than Love." Where's that from?! jeff n.p. _Miracle_, Heidi Berry __________________________________________________________________ Get Verizon Online DSL for $39.95 and get 30 days of free service! http://www.bellatlantic.net/promos/p2banet.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:03:00 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: dar (was Re: Bettie Serveert...) Her new album, The Green Room, was released Tuesday. Jeff Hanson > marla tiara sez: > > >(hoping to maybe get Dar Williams to wear it today) > > speaking of Dar, WRNR yesterday played a song of hers I'd never > heard before, "What Do You Love More Than Love." Where's > that from?! > > jeff > n.p. _Miracle_, Heidi Berry > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get Verizon Online DSL for $39.95 and get 30 days of free service! > http://www.bellatlantic.net/promos/p2banet.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:47:41 -0700 From: Phil Hudson Subject: to test new speakers Try anything off the later Peter Gabriel albums; I have heard recording engineers rhapsodizing over the quality of sound on these works. "Secret World", "Red Rain", "Mercy Street" come to mind. Also, for quasi-vintage Genesis fans, try playing "Down and Out" from "Then There Were Three", simply to see if you can make that godawful mix sound halfway decent! If you get an acceptable sound from that track, you're onto something. I think the track was originally mixed on some megabuck$ Tannoy monitors, without referencing the sound to any regular consumer-type brands, and it's very difficult to find speakers that will make this rather interesting song not sound as if it was recorded live from a stall in the men's room at the Filmore. If your speakers can cut through the mush on the track and really highlight the individual instruments, I'd like to know what you're using. I have only gotten this song to sound good on my Alesis near-field studio monitors, a pair of borrowed Dahlquist Time Windows (at about $3000? Yeah, we can all afford that, right?) and a set of honking great PA speakers pushing about 400 watts per side from 40 feet away in a field. Not exactly your normal listening environment. Have fun with your new goodies! Oh, and if you *really* want to thrill your neighbors, Rossini's William Tell overture, or the 1812 from Tchaikovsky. Phil " An intellectual is someone who can listen to the William Tell overture and not think of the Lone Ranger" Anon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:00:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: gabriel touring?! I just saw this in an e-mail from myplay.com regarding local concerts: >Massive Attack/ Peter Gabriel at John F. Kennedy Center for the >Performing Arts in Washington, DC on Sunday September 10, 2000. !!!!! But I can't seem to find any info on it. Anybody know anything? jeff n.p. _Sunshine on Leith_, the Proclaimers __________________________________________________________________ Get Verizon Online DSL for $39.95 and get 30 days of free service! http://www.bellatlantic.net/promos/p2banet.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:17:45 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Ultimate Collections Just noticed that two new greatest hits packages of ecto interest are out (or soon to be): Released 8/22 - Maria McKee - Ultimate Collection Released 8/29 - Aimee Mann - Ultimate Collection Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:28:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Ultimate Collections On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 jjhanson@att.net wrote: > Just noticed that two new greatest hits packages > of ecto interest are out (or soon to be): > > Released 8/22 - Maria McKee - Ultimate Collection > Released 8/29 - Aimee Mann - Ultimate Collection is ultimate collectoin some sort of series? neal np: closer - joy division ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:46:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: gabriel touring?! On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > I just saw this in an e-mail from myplay.com regarding local concerts: > > >Massive Attack/ Peter Gabriel at John F. Kennedy Center for the > >Performing Arts in Washington, DC on Sunday September 10, 2000. I don't know anything about the show, but if you figure something out, buy me a ticket! I'll be in town that weekend and that would be fantastic. > n.p. _Sunshine on Leith_, the Proclaimers I noticed it was time for yet another Procalaimers revival. There music is all over the preview for the latest charming Irish movie. (Can't remember the name of it.) neal np: Closer - Joy Division ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:02:22 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: Ultimate Collections Neal asked about ultimate collections being a series: Seems like Ultimate Collection is just a very popular name for Greatest Hits collections. A search of Amazon.com yields the following bands with greatest hits collections by that name (or The Ultimate Collection). Some of these may be parts of series, but given the variety of artists, I can't believe they're part of the same series. Maria Mckee, Aimee Mann, Poco, Buckwheat Zydeco, Drivin' n Cryin', Steve Wariner, Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, Jimmy Cliff, Jeffrey Osborne, Delbert McClinton, Dennis DeYoung, Englebert Humperdinck, Gino Vanelli, Merle Haggard, The Fixx, Martha Reeves and the Vandellas, Smokey Robinson, Louis Armstrong, Jesse Johnson, Mahalia Jackson, Diana Ross & The Supremes, Barry White, The Temptations, The Four Tops, The Commodores, John Lee Hooker, Johnny Mathis, Rick James, Teena Marie, Gene Autry, Dennis Brown, Steel Pulse, Mary Brown, Billy Preston, Albert King, Grover Washington, Jr., The Yardbirds, Albert King, The Marvelettes, David Ruffin, Diana Ross, Junior Walker & The All-Stars, Eddie Kendricks, Isaac Hayes, Nils Lofgren, Ben E. King, Black Uhuru, Leslie "Hutch" Hutchinson, Lee "Scratch" Perry, Bix Beiderbecke, Gladys Knight & The Pips, Gwen Guthrie, Sunny Okosuns, Shanice, Charlie Rich, Mutabaruka, Toddy Tee, Dave Mason, Dizzy Gillespie, Ink Spots, Patsy Cline, Deanna Durbin, Ike & Tina Turner, Patti Austin, Bloodstone, Yardbirds, Neil Diamond, Cat Stevens, Mario Lanza, Harry Belafonte, George Formby, Vera Lynn, Perry Como, Jimmy Durante, Bryan Ferry, Clannad, Fats Waller, Village People, Air Supply, Melanie, Kamahl, Grapelli Reinhardt, Santana, Julio Iglesias, The Ventures, Dusty Springfield, Small Faces, Sandie Shaw, Tremeloes, O'Jays, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Dolly Parton, Earth, Wind & Fire, Nat King Cole, Sal Mineo, Searchers, Janis Joplin n.p. Lisa Ekdahl - Back to Earth n.r. City of God - E. L. Doctorow ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:08:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Drummond Subject: testing new speakers first: > what song/artist would you recommend to test out > a new pair of speakers? I just bought a great new Panasonic (way consumer, though: it was only $250, but it's got 6 speakers including subwoofers, woohoo for bass!) and the first CD I put in it after hooking it all up was Get Hustle's brilliant _Earth odyssey_... their songs are by and large EXTREMELY short, mostly under 2 minutes (the entire album is 27 minutes long and 10 songs), but they pack SO much thought and so much musical expression into as tiny a space as possible... the songs are noisy and busy but they're so smart... the band is a 4-piece: drums, guitar, piano, and the excellent swoopy vocals of a girl named only as Valentine... but anyhow, their album is so so so excellent, it'll definitely be on my Top 10 list for this year... it's available on amazon.com or through mailorder... it was released on the teensy indie label 5 Rue Christine, which is distributed by Kill Rock Stars, I believe... but anyhow, their music is dense and interesting and tight and thought-out enough that I felt they greatly deserved to be what I tested my new speakers out on. And that's the way the story goes. Now go to sleep! Love y'all, John ===== [an interesting compliment about our valiant narrator that y'all might perhaps find agreeable] "you're the aston-martin of robots" - - xovoxovoxo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: John Drummond Subject: oh and one more thing > Also, a friend used to make me crank Gush Forth My > Tears by Miranda Sex Garden - they REALLY nail those > high notes :) Yes, Miranda Sex Garden are great for the piercing highs... Katherine Blake has been a big influence on my style... all of those madrigal dinners I did have affected me, now MSG and Mediaeval Baebes move me nigh to tears... good gracious. Actually, speaking of: have any of y'all ever heard of the Hillard Ensemble? I just found out about them last night on Amazon.com... they're a male a capella vocal group and they perform old old old obscure texts... apparently their work is very much from the approach of serious musicology, and they often perform works by Arvo Pärt... hmm... I put like 6 of their albums on my buddy list, hehe... anyhow... does anybody have anything to say about them? > lurking away Marla: your site is fab-tastic, and you're certainly not a lurker... you post all the time! Keep posting! Your taste is great, and you taste great... or at least, I'd assume so. :D John n.p. Mary Timony, _Mountains_ [album of the year, dammit] ===== [an interesting compliment about our valiant narrator that y'all might perhaps find agreeable] "you're the aston-martin of robots" - - xovoxovoxo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:31:55 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: oh and one more thing John Drummond wrote: > Actually, speaking of: have any of y'all ever > heard of the Hillard Ensemble? I just found out about > them last night on Amazon.com... they're a male a > capella vocal group and they perform old old old > obscure texts... apparently their work is very much > from the approach of serious musicology, and they > often perform works by Arvo Pärt... hmm... I put like > 6 of their albums on my buddy list, hehe... anyhow... > does anybody have anything to say about them? I have a couple of Hilliard Ensemble CDs,one is Gesualdo's Tenebrae, and others are with Jan Garbarek-- the Norwegian jazz saxaphonist, Officum and Mnemosyne. Officum is one of my favorite chant pieces ever--the sax is often hardly distinguishable from the voices, though a few times it gets a little Kenny G ish (shudder). But overall, it's a great piece--great piece to play on a Sunday morning. Speaking of MSG, has anyone else heard the new Miranda Sex Garden CD--Carnival of Love? It's great--very much in the line of Fairytales of SLavery. (and very non- madrigalish) Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:06:24 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: gabriel touring?! neal sez: > > >Massive Attack/ Peter Gabriel at John F. Kennedy Center for the > > >Performing Arts in Washington, DC on Sunday September 10, 2000. > > I don't know anything about the show, but if you figure something out, buy > me a ticket! I'll be in town that weekend and that would be fantastic. Still haven't managed to dig anything up on this. Anyone? Anyone? > > n.p. _Sunshine on Leith_, the Proclaimers > > I noticed it was time for yet another Procalaimers revival. There music > is all over the preview for the latest charming Irish movie. (Can't > remember the name of it.) First, I want to point out that I bought _Sunshine on Leith_ back in the fall of '88 (it was released in September), quite literally years before it was Cool. Secondly, I grabbed it on a lark this morning as I was searching for things I hadn't heard in eons. Third, I'm *glad* if it's time for a revival because it's still a wonderful album! jeff n.p. _100% Fun_, Matthew Sweet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:15:25 -0700 From: "Brian Errickson" Subject: Re: dogs songs walking the dog by sandie shaw ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:21:09 -0700 From: "Russ Van Rooy" Subject: Re: testing new speakers I must be old fashioned but how about "Dark Side of the Moon" ? Which reminds me , a friend of mine told me about a band that released an album called "The not-so-bright-side of the Moon"- can't remember the name of the band but I'm ROTFL . - -Russ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Drummond" To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: testing new speakers > first: > > > what song/artist would you recommend to test out > > a new pair of speakers? > > I just bought a great new Panasonic (way consumer, > though: it was only $250, but it's got 6 speakers > including subwoofers, woohoo for bass!) and the first > CD I put in it after hooking it all up was Get > Hustle's brilliant _Earth odyssey_... their songs are > by and large EXTREMELY short, mostly under 2 minutes > (the entire album is 27 minutes long and 10 songs), > but they pack SO much thought and so much musical > expression into as tiny a space as possible... the > songs are noisy and busy but they're so smart... the > band is a 4-piece: drums, guitar, piano, and the > excellent swoopy vocals of a girl named only as > Valentine... but anyhow, their album is so so so > excellent, it'll definitely be on my Top 10 list for > this year... it's available on amazon.com or through > mailorder... it was released on the teensy indie label > 5 Rue Christine, which is distributed by Kill Rock > Stars, I believe... but anyhow, their music is dense > and interesting and tight and thought-out enough that > I felt they greatly deserved to be what I tested my > new speakers out on. > > And that's the way the story goes. Now go to sleep! > > Love y'all, > > John > > ===== > [an interesting compliment about > our valiant narrator that y'all > might perhaps find agreeable] > "you're the aston-martin of robots" > - xovoxovoxo > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: testing new speakers On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Russ Van Rooy wrote: > I must be old fashioned but how about "Dark Side of the Moon" ? Which > reminds me , a friend of mine told me about a band that released an album > called "The not-so-bright-side of the Moon"- can't remember the name of the > band but I'm ROTFL . A Seattle band called The Squirrels. My boyfriend, a huge Pink Floyd fan, has this CD. It's a pretty funny parody, but only if you're really familiar with the real DSOTM... - --Sue Trowbridge * albany, california trow@slip.net * http://www.interbridge.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:27:54 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: dar (was Re: Bettie Serveert...) Hi! Jeff responded to Jeffy (how symmetrical ;): >Her new album, The Green Room, was released >Tuesday. It's called _Green World_, actually. :) I just ordered it from Amazon today. How pathetic does that make me? (that's a rhetorical question) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | ectofest 2000: sat. sept. 2, 2000 kenosia park, danbury, ct | | http://www.ectofest.org | +==========================TICKETS ON SALE NOW!!!==========================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:22:22 -0400 From: meredith Subject: OtR/Stickman Jones Hi! Just got back from seeing Over The Rhine do a 2+-hour set at the All Angels Coffeehouse on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. It was wonderful, though the chairs there made the Bottom Line look comfortable (it was in a church, after all...). I couldn't tell you exactly what OtR played, but it was scary how much was unfamiliar to me. I'm so zonked right now, all I could do was sit there and let Karin's lovely voice wash over me, so that's just what I did. I do know that the encore consisted of great covers of Gillian Welch's "Orphan Girl" (it amazes me how quickly that song became a classic), and a Cowboy Junkies song from _Lay It Down_, the title of which escapes me, but it's the languid one that goes, "grief is the absence of feeling". Karin introduced it by saying, "they refuse to do this live, so we will." :) Before the show, the CD that was playing over the PA while everyone came in really caught my ear, so afterwards I asked the sound guy what it was: a NY band called Stickman Jones, their new album _Luxuria_. I think I'm going to have to pick this one up. MP3.com has samples from all 3 of their discs, and they're good, but the tracks that sounded the most like Kym Brown to me (i.e. the ones that made me sit up and pay attention over the noise of the crowd) aren't included for listening. The band is on the poppier side of things, but there is some interesting instrumentation (accordions and mandolins so far), and the singer has a nice, Rachael Sage-meets-Jill Sobule-at-a-Terri Nunn-show voice. There's something there that's grabbing me, though I can't really say what it is. I'm getting the same feeling I got the same time I heard Rachael Sage, which is definitely a good thing. Their web site is (surprise!) http://www.stickmanjones.com. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | ectofest 2000: sat. sept. 2, 2000 kenosia park, danbury, ct | | http://www.ectofest.org | +==========================TICKETS ON SALE NOW!!!==========================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 01:54:53 -0400 From: Paul Kim Subject: Re: testing new speakers I'm not a big tech head (although, if you give me a couple years and some money, I'm sure i'll become one), however I do have two recommendations about testing new speakers : firstly, most recording studios have Yamaha NS-10 speakers in their control rooms. Usually, they will also have one or two sets of better speakers, and one set of worse speakers. But the Yamahas are pretty much an industry standard because it is believed that they best represent the type of speakers that most consumers have. Therefore, you might want to look into buying them because a lot of mixes will be done so that they will sound good on those speakers. secondly, choose a song that YOU are familiar with, something that you are used to hearing on whatever sound system you may have. Make sure that you listen to it on your current stereo system with the current speakers so that you know what you like and what you don't like from the set. Also listen to it on some friends' stereo systems to see if they bring out textures that you couldn't hear on your system. Listen to the song on headphones and in the car too. Be very aware of all the nuances and the way the highs, the mids, and the lows interact; know the song inside and out. Then, go listen to the song on the speakers that you wish to try out. another small note. When you do listen on the various systems, make sure that you listen to the song flat. In other words, don't have any preset "ambiences" in place, and take out any bass or treble boosts. paul kim ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #247 **************************