From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #170 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, June 15 2000 Volume 06 : Number 170 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Napster debate lives on...somehow [damon foam ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Sinead [Mike Connell ] Re: Sinead ["Anne Deming" ] Subject Lines (was:Re: Sinead) ["Joanna M. Phillips" ] Re: Sinead [Joseph Zitt ] no! Really! Re: Sinead [jburka@min.net] Re: Sinead ["Mickey Ferguson" ] Sinead's "Faith and Courage" [Mark Miazga ] Courtney's magnificent speech! [WretchAwry ] semi-technical question [kerry white ] Re: worst song and stuff.. [Ted ] Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" [meredith ] this week's live music [meredith ] Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" [Mark Miazga ] Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:32:36 -0400 From: damon foam Subject: Re: Napster debate lives on...somehow Scott Burger wrote: > > I am responding to a bunch of posts here from different people: > > >It could drive ticket prices up. For a lot of the major shows where > >you'd think there would be a discount because of increased interest, they > >are already through the roof. Just as an ectophile type-example, the > >upcoming bay area natalie merchant tickets are going for $69.00 - $100+++ > >That's just wrong. > > > >[the shows i go to are usually around $8 - no complaints there] > > Ok. So that could be interpreted as something to support my point- > Napster/mp3s may put a premium on live shows. Now, I am not sure if I would > pay that much money to see Natalie Merchant, but then again I did pay $60 > to James Brown recently and thought it was cool (front row seats and got to > shake his hand, he had a 11 person band with dancers and he was still > putting on some impressive dance moves even though he is older than my > dad). yes, we need MORE concerts that cost 50 or 60 bucks a person. > >> >live shows can't support artists. > >> > >> what do you mean by support? I know plenty of bands whose main source of > >> income is not cds but live shows. > > > >is it their main source of income or their main > >band source of income? > > main source of income. of course like most artists, they might have > additional jobs to augment that income. i'll take your word for it. > >> I know. My argument is that MP3's will make recorded music free, but live > >> shows will have more importance attached to them because they are not > >> always readily available. It may take take time, but I believe this new > >> premium on live shows will create a market for more clubs. Not everybody > >> wants to sit in front of a big screen their whole lives > > > >oh, i don't. > > > >going to clubs is often icky. > > Well I guess you can sit at home with your computer or tv then. or go to concerts. > Everyone gets put off by late sets and smoky environments, but that will > change if people get off their ass and make an effort to support the clubs > that are more hospitable. never met one of them things. > > >> >artists will make LESS of a living, meaning less time for > >> >making art and more time for making a living. > >> > > >> Maybe in the short term, but I believe there will always be artists who can > >> figure out a way to make their living off their craft. > > > >i want MORE artists, not less. more! more! > > Besides, there are a > >> lot of crappy artists NOW who are spending more time making a living and > >> less time on making art. I say let Napster and MP3s take some of the > >> commercialism out of today's music. I think it is a good thing. > > > >nonsense. > > > >crappy is always subject to opinion. > > > >there are crappy popular bands and their are spectacularly good popular > >bands. > > oh, so I guess you like all the Nirvana, Metallica, and Korn clones out there. dunno any of them. me, i don't like nirvana, i think they're a crappy clone of good bands. and i guess you're saying sarah mclachlan isn't very good, because she's popular. > I have faith that the smart bands will be smart enough to know how to > navigate the whole mp3/Napster thing. ah. forget talent. intelligence is now more important. > >First of all, what a lot Napster supporters seem to be forgetting (or so > >it seems to me) is that not everybody has (or can afford) a computer with > >a lot of memory and a high-speed Internet connection to download tons and > >tons of mp3s with. So, if the pseudo-utopian future that many Napster > >supporters seem to want to come true does come true, and the record > >industry is killed and recorded music is just downloaded via mp3, are > >these people just not supposed to be able to listen to music anymore, or > >what? I think I phrased that whole thing rather awkwardly, so let me try > >it again: if mp3s take over recorded music and kill the record industry, > >how are people who can't afford computers, Internet connections, et al., > >supposed to listen to music? > > Have their rich friends burn cds for them. riiiight. jerome down in the hood naturally knows a buncha rich kids come slumming. Honestly, the prices on > computers and MP3 stuff is not very far out of reach of traditional stereo > prices. AND, like I have been saying, if bands are concerned about it, they > are welcome to 'back-format' and release stuff on vinyl and cassette. vinyl is a horrible format. > Again, I have faith that smart bands will be able to get by without having > to entirely sell out. Actually, what is fun is when bands like Chumbawumba > try to subvert the corporations. It is a another whole debate on whether > they are successful at doing that. subversion is overrated. there hasn't been a movie more subversive than fight club in a long while, but it was quite pop too. - -- The universe has a different ending. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Paul Huesman (phuesma@lifeway.com) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Dr. Firewall Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Leo rising Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer Samantha Tanner Tue June 30 1970 Wild Goose BunkyTom Tue July 02 1968 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 03 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 05 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 05 1971 Cancer John J Henshon Mon July 05 1954 The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon Jim Gurley Mon July 06 1959 Cancer Lisa Wilson Fri July 08 1960 Moonchild with Java Rising Courtney Dallas Fri July 09 1971 Catte Michael Peskura Sat July 09 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer Rich R. Wed July 14 1954 Cancer - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:22:44 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: Sinead > Anna Maria l wrote: > > Hi.. > > My worst songs of all time are.. {snip} > > Africa by Toto > > Hotel California by Eagles To which Joseph Zitt replied: >Hmm. Those are two of my favorites. I kind of got the impression that Anna Maria was talking "worst" as in lyrically, as they both are pretty simplistic and meaningless in that respect (IMO). I too liked listening to both of those songs quite a bit when they were hits, and as a matter of fact I was very hooked on the entire Hotel California LP when it first came out, but if I look att hose two songs lyrically, I can certainly see why some people would have them on a worst-song list. Mike - off to buy the new SInead O'C CD today also ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:32:36 EST From: "Anne Deming" Subject: Re: Sinead Just picked up Sinead's "Faith and Courage"...FABULOUS! I recommend everone take a listen and buy. "Jealous", & "Hold Back the Night" are killer tracks. -Anne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:36:40 -0400 From: "Joanna M. Phillips" Subject: Subject Lines (was:Re: Sinead) Would you-all please change the Subject line to reflect "worst songs" or whatever you are talking about? I have been getting my hopes up each time I open a post with the subject of Sinead, only to find it's not about her or her new album at *all*. Thanks. fleur ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:02:01 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Sinead On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 10:22:44AM -0400, Mike Connell wrote: > I too liked listening to both of those songs quite a bit when they were > hits, and as a matter of fact I was very hooked on the entire Hotel > California LP when it first came out, but if I look att hose two songs > lyrically, I can certainly see why some people would have them on a > worst-song list. Hmm... you may have had to spend long, somewhat chemically altered evenings in college in the late 70s to truly appreciate the lyrics to Hotel California. But in a decade that spawned "The Night Chicago Died", "Billy, Don't Be a Hero", and "Run, Joey, Run", they held up pretty well :-) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:14:41 -0400 (EDT) From: jburka@min.net Subject: no! Really! Re: Sinead On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Anne Deming wrote: > Just picked up Sinead's "Faith and Courage"...FABULOUS! I recommend everone > take a listen and buy. "Jealous", & "Hold Back the Night" are killer > tracks. -Anne Interesting. So far, the only "killer tracks" as far as I'm concerned are "No Man's Woman" and "Daddy I'm Fine." Give me an album full of stuff like that and I'll be in heaven. Overall, _Faith and Courage_ is quite good, but it tends more toward the mellow than I expected. I'm not sure it's all that big a departure from _Universal Mother_ and the stuff on the _Gospel Oak_ ep. Perhaps I just need to hear it some more -- it's been making the rounds of the CD players in my office since my first full go-through. "But I get real hot when I'm under them lights Like I wanna fuck every man in sight" -- Sinead O'Connor jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:15:40 -0500 From: "Mickey Ferguson" Subject: Re: Sinead "Anne Deming" wrote: on Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Re: Sinead > Just picked up Sinead's "Faith and Courage"...FABULOUS! I recommend everone > take a listen and buy. "Jealous", & "Hold Back the Night" are killer > tracks. -Anne I agree! After playing through "Faith and Courage" several times now, I'm convinced that the genius that is Sinead is back with us. I couldn't be more pleased. Some other favourites: - --Daddy I'm Fine (if only for the naughty words. (; ) - --The Lamb's Book of Life (an epic track, and I adore every sound, even the faux machine gun sounds) - --Till I Whisper U Something (the groove on this track gets me movin!) - --The State I'm In -- (what *is* that lyric, "Circle around the Sun..."?) - --Emma's Song - this song deeply affects me, and I love the way it references "the Healing Room", the first song. - --Kyrie Eleison (a great song to listen to loudly through headphones ... I'm still trying to sort out the spoken/screamed parts!) When I get right down to it, there's not a song on this work of art that I don't like. This one's *highly* recommended. - ---Mickey F. Austin TX USA n.p. Alan Stivell --- Back to Breizh! n.r. John Morgan Wilson, _Justice at Risk_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:41:56 -0400 From: Mark Miazga Subject: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" Wow, what an album. I've been playing it non-stop since I bought it at 10am yesterday. It's her best work since "IDNWWIHG", by far. The worry I had about too many producers was all for naught - they all manage to accentuate Sinead, never overshadowing her. I enjoyed "Universal Mother", and think it had some great tracks. But there also was a significant tentativeness to that album, and its eclectism sometimes backfired - there were a couple of real wonkers on that album. This album replaces that tentativeness with the type of fierce beauty that I missed about Sinead. Favorite tracks so far are "No Man's Woman", "Daddy I'm Fine", "The Lamb's Book of Life", "Jealous", "Dancing Lessons", and "The State I'm In". But there's really no weak tracks here. I'm discovering more and more with every listen. This is her best work in years, if not ever. It's great to have you back, Sinead. This is going to be a tough one to top for Best of the Year, although the latest albums from Juliana Hatfield and The Eels are up there as well. - -- Mark Miazga miazgama@msu.edu http://go.to/MarkMiazga W-2 Wilson Hall, MSU East Lansing, MI 48825 (517) 353-0651 http://www.msu.edu/~miazgama English & Secondary Education, Class of 2000 "We must elect Al Gore as president of the United States. ... The very future of the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation hangs in the balance." --Human Rights Campaign Executive Director Elizabeth Birch *It will be a great day when schools get all the money they need and the army has to hold a bake sale to buy another tank* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:16:23 -0500 From: WretchAwry Subject: Courtney's magnificent speech! I stepped out of the Napster discussion because I didn't have anything more to say, but I have been doing a lot of thinking. I've temporarily stopped ripping MP3s of my collection, and I haven't tried to get back onto Napster...yet. (And Gnutella is just waaay to weird and flaky to use at this time). I checked to make sure that I have nothing that can be classified as a "new release" in that I deleted any song that was released this year or last year. I have a handful of songs released in 1998, and most everything else is from 1997 and earlier. There's just so much older music that *isn't* on artist's web sites or MP3.com, and it shouldn't be forgotten. But...I don't know what I'm going to do. Anyway, this is a wonderful speech by Courtney Love. She doesn't just talk about Napster (actually, she's a little conflicted about Napster), she talks about record companies (she's being sued by hers because she wants out of her contract), web sites (she turned a fan site into her official site), corporate sponsorship, RIAA, copyright laws, creativity vs. suits, and lots of other things. I was very very impressed with how articulate she is and the points she brings up. (Pity Sam Donaldson, who had to follow this) "Editor's note: This is an unedited transcript of Courtney Love's speech to the Digital Hollywood online entertainment conference, given in New York on May 16. " http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:30:42 -0500 (CDT) From: kerry white Subject: semi-technical question Hi, I have a portable CD player with car kit. I had no choice when the car I bought came with reversible cassette player. The band inside the cassette-like induction unit seems to be getting loose: sometimes the music gets interrupted by the damn cass player switching back and forth or even ejecting the unit. A) has anyone ever heard of replacement bands anywhere? Radio Shack hasn't. B) should I just settle for some Radio Shack 'traction in a bottle'? C) something else?? Am I the only poor soul to have this problem? Thanks,bye, KrW Hark! What rock through yonder window breaks? Bah! Tis that Juliet and her catapult!! Please reply to list: am at work and I have Thurs and Fri as weekend. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:04:08 -0400 From: Ted Subject: Re: worst song and stuff.. dave wrote: > I can't remember the name of it, but my pick is that song with the line: > "Heeeey.... Hooooo... Heeeeeey... Hooooo.. Put your hands in the air... > and wave 'em like you just don't care.." > Oh wait.. I remember the name now.. it was "Every rap song ever written" > I think you would enjoy Rap more if you learned how to "Cabbage Patch". > Oh.. I was at the mall over the weekend, and I stopped into the music > store and picked out a dozen new CDs... I was on my way out and an alarm > went off and a security guy came running over and said I had to pay for > them.. I told him "but the music WANTS to be free" and he apologized, > told me to enjoy them, and let me go on my way. Sarcasm noted; But if you want free music, you should use Napster. > > Speaking of free, Natalie Merchant tickets are going for $69.00 - > $100+++???? Last time I saw her I think I paid 8 bucks. She tripped over me, then glared at me, and I called her a bitch. I'd pay a hundred to be able to do that again. (the other 9,999 maniacs were nice, though) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:35:04 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" Hi! Mark reviewed: >I've been playing it non-stop since I bought it at 10am yesterday. It's >her best work since "IDNWWIHG", by far. Could someone please point me to a site that has comprehensive sound samples of this new one on it? I'm sorry, but as someone who has long held that _The Lion And The Cobra_ was the only worthwhile thing she's released, a favorable comparison to her second album isn't really a selling point for me. :} I am intrigued by all the reviews, though, and definitely want to give this one a shot. Thanks, +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:56:50 -0400 From: meredith Subject: this week's live music Hi! woj and I have attended a couple of good live performances this week already. On Sunday, Sloan Wainwright was at Tom Neff's house up in Old Lyme. Thanks to the summer weather there was hardly anyone there (6 guests total), but it was a good show regardless. Ina May Wool, a NYC singer/songwriter opened; I'd heard of her but never heard her. She was pleasant enough, with engaging songs sung in a voice that was somehow reminiscent of Rickie Lee Jones, but not really. She was accompanied by Frank Marotta, Jr. on guitar, whom I recognized because he also plays with Anne O'Meara Heaton. Sloan was accompanied by guitarist/co-writer Steven Murphy and vocalist Liadain Clancy. While Ina May Wool obviously had had to strain a little to be heard over the guitars, Sloan and Liadain had no problem whatsoever filling the Neffs' 18th-century shed with their gorgeous voices. As woj noted afterwards, it's almost scary how well their voices blend together: Dar Williams and Lucy Kaplansky talk about how their voices sometimes spawn a third one, but Sloan's and Liadain's actually do. I've been kicking myself for forgetting to ask Liadain if she's involved with any other musical groups -- I would love to hear her more often than the occasional chances I have to see her with Sloan. She is truly amazing: one minute she's providing the airiest Celtic tones, the next she's doing a killer Joan Osborne mpersonation. It would be great to see her fronting her own band sometime. Oh yeah, and Sloan is still pretty damn cool, too. :) She performed quite a few new songs, from the album she's currently working on -- all were good, and very much in line with the sort of thing she's done on her first two albums. She mentioned that she's doing more of a "rock thing" with this one, which is very intriguing. Last night Merrie Amsterburg did a CD release show at Fez in NYC. She was first of three performers on the bill, and ended up doing a 40-minute set completely comprised of songs from the new album, _Little Steps_. She had a full band with her, and the new songs were really great. About the only disappointment was that she didn't have her bouzouki with her this time - just her mandolin and a shiny new guitar. I'm embarrassed to say that I haven't had a chance to give the CD a spin yet, but I will definitely report here when I do! I'm sure it's going to be very, very good. (For Boston-area folks, she's doing the national anthem at Fenway Park on August 9. Sounds like a good time to finally catch a game this season ... :) We stuck around just long enough to determine that Sarah Lentz, a NYC singer/songwriter who is apparently quite the darling with the Fez crowd, is to be avoided at all costs. She's got reasonably interesting tunes (piano/upright bass/drum/guitar, but she's definitely been listening to too many Fiona Apple records) and an interesting voice (think Fiona Apple in pissed-off mode), but her lyrics are absolutely, utterly inane. I had a friend who wrote better poetry when we were in 6th grade. It was all too excruciating, and we had to leave. Next up, the big decision: this Friday night, do I go see Patty Larkin here in New Haven, or Heather Eatman down at the Acoustic Cafe in Bridgeport? Decisions, decisions ... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:23:06 -0400 From: Mark Miazga Subject: Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" > Mark reviewed: > > >I've been playing it non-stop since I bought it at 10am yesterday. It's > >her best work since "IDNWWIHG", by far. > > Could someone please point me to a site that has comprehensive sound > samples of this new one on it? I'm sorry, but as someone who has long held > that _The Lion And The Cobra_ was the only worthwhile thing she's released, > a favorable comparison to her second album isn't really a selling point for > me. :} I am intrigued by all the reviews, though, and definitely want to > give this one a shot. Atlantic Recording Company's site - http://www.atlantic-records.com - has pretty extensive sound clips. A lot of folks think TLATC is her strongest album, but I just don't get it. Sure, it's got some great songs - "Troy" is perhaps one of the greatest showcases of voice and emotion I've ever heard, and I love "Drink Before the War" and "Just Like U Said It Would B" - but the 80's synth sound of songs like "Mandinka" and "Jackie" sound dated and don't do much for her voice, IMO. That's just me, though. I'd put it behind even "Universal Mother" in terms of quality, with "F&C" and "IDNWWIHG" battling it out for the top spot. But, yeah, just go to atlantic-records.com, enter in "Sinead" under artists' names, and you'll find it there. There's even a full-length real video clip of the video for "No Man's Woman". Mark - -- Mark Miazga miazgama@msu.edu http://go.to/MarkMiazga W-2 Wilson Hall, MSU East Lansing, MI 48825 (517) 353-0651 http://www.msu.edu/~miazgama English & Secondary Education, Class of 2000 "We must elect Al Gore as president of the United States. ... The very future of the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation hangs in the balance." --Human Rights Campaign Executive Director Elizabeth Birch *It will be a great day when schools get all the money they need and the army has to hold a bake sale to buy another tank* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:14:51 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" meth sez: > Could someone please point me to a site that has comprehensive sound > samples of this new one on it? I'm sorry, but as someone who has long held > that _The Lion And The Cobra_ was the only worthwhile thing she's released, > a favorable comparison to her second album isn't really a selling point for > me. :} I am intrigued by all the reviews, though, and definitely want to > give this one a shot. Oh just go get the durned thing already! I listened to it all the way through again today and I'm still trying to figure out what made me think it was so mellow when I listened to it yesterday. It's definitely got some quieter moments, but it's nothing like even IDNWWIHG (which I also listened to today). That album is notable for its acoustic guitar and half-whispered vocals on half the tracks. The new album has Sinead definitely *singing* again. And I'm telling you, "Daddy I'm Fine" is worth the price of admission. It's a song that just needs to be played over and over again, cranked to 11. (mind the sample of this I found at the atlantic records site cuts out before the song really lets loose) jeff n.p.: nothing. it's bed time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:39:42 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Sinead's "Faith and Courage" Jeffrey Burka wrote: >Oh just go get the durned thing already! > >I listened to it all the way through again today and I'm still trying to >figure out what made me think it was so mellow when I listened to it >yesterday. It's definitely got some quieter moments, but it's nothing >like even IDNWWIHG (which I also listened to today). That album is >notable for its acoustic guitar and half-whispered vocals on half >the tracks. The new album has Sinead definitely *singing* again. And >I'm telling you, "Daddy I'm Fine" is worth the price of admission. It's >a song that just needs to be played over and over again, cranked to >11. > >(mind the sample of this I found at the atlantic records site cuts out >before the song really lets loose) Darn it, the samples are temporarily unreachable. I'm hesitant to buy yet another Sinead album, as I finally sold them all except _The Lion and the Cobra_ (which I still utterly adore from start to finish--the '80s backing doesn't bother me a bit) and _I Do No Want..._ (which I still have mixed feelings about after all these years but still like) as I have found her recent songwriting way too pop (and lyrics too preachy) for my tastes, and didn't like "No Man's Woman" when I saw the video on TV. Is "Daddy I'm Fine" like "No Man's Woman"? - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #170 **************************