From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #156 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, June 4 2000 Volume 06 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ecto-digest V6 #155 ["Denis Parslow" ] OT: A personal Music Database [WretchAwry ] Re: ecto-digest V6 #155 [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: Samsonmusic [meredith ] Re: OT: A personal Music Database [Joseph Zitt ] Re: CD rack ["J. Katherine Rossner" ] RE: A personal Music Database ["Martin G Bridges" ] Re: OT: A personal Music Database [Joseph Zitt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 02:15:17 -0400 From: "Denis Parslow" Subject: Re: ecto-digest V6 #155 This was an awesome movie. It did indeed do a wonderful job of putting the book to film. I first saw it only last year. As coincidence would have it, I had picked up the book (not having read it) used after forgetting the book I had been reading that day (and started reading it) three days earlier. I didn't notice that they were the same, and it took me five minutes to realize why the start of the movie seemed familiar. Also, the music to the movie was pretty interesting, and a vaguely recent song by Alanis Morissette (the one with the video of her on the subway naked, if I remember correctly). The music definitely put even more of a surreal feeling to the movie (which was quite surreal enough on its own) > > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 23:48:12 -0600 > From: neal copperman > Subject: Re: Utterly off-topic - Lathe of Heaven > > At 11:13 PM -0400 6/1/00, jason and jill wrote: > >This is complete off-topic, but I had to tell *someone*. ;) > > > >Back in 1980, PBS aired a movie adaption of Ursula LeGuin's The Lathe of > >Heaven. I remember it as being one of the most faithful adapations of > >sci-fi book, and one that was concerned with presenting the ideas set > >forth by the book, rather than adapting some features and sticking in > >explosions and gun battles. Of course, part of my faith in the movie > >may have had something to do with my being 11 at the time... > > Let's see, I was 15, but it had the same impact on me. One of the best > things I have ever seen on telivision. I managed to see it twice when > it > was aired, and was completely blown away. Maybe I'll actually try to > invite myself over to someone's house to watch it. > > neal > > np: Middlesence - Amy Rigby > > ------------------------------ Denis Parslow dgp@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~dgp/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:26:13 -0500 From: WretchAwry Subject: OT: A personal Music Database Some people might know about this program already, but since I just found it, I assume there are others who don't know about it. CATraxx 2000! http://www.fnprg.com/ Disclaimer: I don't work for these people and don't know anybody who works for them. I just decided to find something that could handle the input of our thousands of CDs, LPs, and cassettes, as well as our countless music videos (plus laserdisks and DVDs) and after a few hours of searches (have I mentioned lately that all the web search engines are CRAP?) I I came across this almost by accident. It's (Windows-based) shareware ($39 in the US) and allows a free tryout download. After working with it for less than a half an hour, I decided that it's *exactly* what I need. It's comprehensive, intuitive, customizable and BEST OF ALL, it will, at the click of the mouse, get information about a CD from CDDB and automatically add it to your database. The CD title, artist, track names and track timings are put exactly where they need to be. The only thing you need to type, and only if you feel like it, is extra information that CDDB doesn't generally have, such as label, year of release, band members and guest musicians, things like that. If CDDB doesn't happen to have a CD in its databank, there's a way to type it into your database and then send the info to CDDB so it will be there for the next person who might want the info. This sounds like a commercial, but it's one unsolicited by the company. Anyone who's been to our houes knows that we'd need a pretty good program, and this one is it. Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:15:16 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: ecto-digest V6 #155 Hi, Are we talking about the same movie? There is no Alanis M in Lathe of Heaven. Did you get to see one of those _old_ vhs or beta copies someone made in 1979? I got mine when PBS sent down a preview feed just a month or so ago and this was the first time since 1979 since anyone aired it. bye, KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:27:39 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Samsonmusic Hi! Peter inquired: >A quick query for people who have ordered from the Samson Music >website - how long did you have to wait until the order was sent? I have no experience to answer your question, but I did want to note that Samsonmusic.com isn't exactly featuring Happy any more. I got a note from Mind-It saying that samsonmusic.com no longer exists, which turned out to be in error - but they have completely redesigned their pages, and if you click on the "music" section Happy is no longer listed. You can still find her albums in the Samson Music store, and if you click on "links" there is a link to the old page about her. But they don't appear to consider her one of their artists, if their pages are meant to be any indication. Things that make you go "hmmmm"... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:57:07 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: OT: A personal Music Database On Sat, Jun 03, 2000 at 12:26:13PM -0500, WretchAwry wrote: > Some people might know about this program already, > but since I just found it, I assume there are others > who don't know about it. > > CATraxx 2000! > http://www.fnprg.com/ Yea verily! I just downloaded it, and it's a dream. Thanks for the heads-up. As a test, I popped in my CDs A-Anderson. The interface is quite good. Any problems I've found are problems with the CDDB2 database itself: some of my more obscure CDs (though not as many as I'd expected) weren't listed, and many artists were listed "Firstname Lastname" rather than "Lastname, Firstname" (so I had to, for example, change all the "Tori Amos" to "Amos, Tori" to get them to sort right). A major plus for those of us geekly enough to notice: the information is stored in a very clear XML database. This should make exporting the data elsewhere quite easy -- I expect it won't be too hard to export the data to a Palm Pilot database so I've be able to doublecheck, while at a wrecka stow, whether I already have the rare tracks for which I'm about to buy a hideously expensive import :-). I'm definitely registering this ($39) and pounding more CDs in. QuasiRelatedly: can anyone recommend a sturdy yet inexpensive 500 or so CD rack? My original one filled up long ago, as has my two 220 cd racks, and I have piles of discs avalanching everywhere, even with the use of the JewelBoxBegone sleeves for many disks. Hayelp! n.p. October Project: s/t n.r. Samuel R. Delany: Atlantis - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:06:04 -0400 From: "J. Katherine Rossner" Subject: Re: CD rack At 03:57 PM 6/3/00 -0400, Joseph Zitt wrote: >QuasiRelatedly: can anyone recommend a sturdy yet inexpensive 500 or so >CD rack? My original one filled up long ago, as has my two 220 cd racks, >and I have piles of discs avalanching everywhere, even with the use of >the JewelBoxBegone sleeves for many disks. Hayelp! I got a nice wooden one (solid pine, not particulate) for $40 at MediaPlay, which I think is a chain (it's the only time I've been there). Holds around 500 (maybe 520?). It's what I think of as most-basic-bookshelf style (sides, shelves, slat across the back of each shelf, all cut-outs rather than solid wood boards) and takes a few minutes to put together (screws), but the end result is nice and quite sturdy. Katherine, delurking (and now heading off to check out that program) - -- She says it seems I could turn around, take back what time has sold me, Absolutely everything they ever told me Resolutely I'm inclined to fight the blows Incompletely I resign myself to the highs and lows... Christine Kane, "The Problem with Jazz" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:28:08 +1000 From: "Martin G Bridges" Subject: RE: A personal Music Database Vickie waxed lyrical about CATraxx 2000 thusly: > It's (Windows-based) shareware ($39 in the US) and > allows a free tryout download. After working with it for > less than a half an hour, I decided that it's *exactly* > what I need. It's comprehensive, intuitive, customizable > and BEST OF ALL, it will, at the click of the mouse, > get information about a CD from CDDB and automatically > add it to your database. The CD title, artist, track names > and track timings are put exactly where they need to be. > The only thing you need to type, and only if you feel > like it, is extra information that CDDB doesn't generally > have, such as label, year of release, band members > and guest musicians, things like that. This sound svery similar to the program I use - Spinfree Audiofile. This one also has CDDB lookup ability, albeit via a small plug-in program, not from the main database. Also it doesn't have CDDB update ability (although this is promised in version 5). Audiofile works fine for me. So there you have it, 2 good CD database programs! Cheers, Martin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:02:29 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: OT: A personal Music Database On Sat, Jun 03, 2000 at 03:57:07PM -0400, Joseph Zitt wrote: > A major plus for those of us geekly enough to notice: the information > is stored in a very clear XML database. This should make exporting the > data elsewhere quite easy -- I expect it won't be too hard to export > the data to a Palm Pilot database so I've be able to doublecheck, while > at a wrecka stow, whether I already have the rare tracks for which I'm > about to buy a hideously expensive import :-). Whoops, I was wrong about that -- thrown off by the presence of an XML file in the package. The best it can do is export delimited ASCII, which is a start. I've registered it, and am waiting for the key. The trial version only allows 100 records, which got me part way through Bowie, working alphabetically. Grr. *sigh* - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #156 **************************