From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #152 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, June 1 2000 Volume 06 : Number 152 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Denio in Summertime [neal copperman ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Samsonmusic ["Mr. P. Kulawec" ] Re: Samsonmusic [Christian Reiter ] RE: A Sound Library ["Sampson,Christopher" ] New Bohemians ["Mattoon, Melanie" ] Re: A Sound Library [Neal Copperman ] Re: A Sound Library ["Scott S. Zimmerman" ] Re: A Sound Library [Damon ] Fwd: Merrie Amsterburg Update- NEW CD! [Michael Curry ] Re: A Sound Library [Michael Bowman ] Re: A Sound Library [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:01:13 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Denio in Summertime At 1:20 AM -0400 5/28/00, Joseph Zitt wrote: >On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 01:06:04AM -0400, sofa king wrote: > >> >10-17 July >> > Amy Denio & Francisco Lopez tour US East Coast - with other possible >> >dates in SW in July. > >This sounds most intriguing -- I like them both a lot, but am baffled as >to what they might do together. They are apparently a couple now. The people I talked to did not think they were actually working together. Sometimes they are sharing a bill (which still seems pretty unlikely), but sometimes also playing separate shows. neal np: lips - Jane Siberry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 03:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** *************** Urs Stafford (Urs.Stafford@natlib.govt.nz) **************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Dr. Firewall Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Leo rising Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer Samantha Tanner Tue June 30 1970 Wild Goose - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:56:19 +0100 (BST) From: "Mr. P. Kulawec" Subject: Samsonmusic Hi A quick query for people who have ordered from the Samson Music website - how long did you have to wait until the order was sent? I ask because I ordered Rhodesongs a month and a half ago, but have not received anything (I'm in the UK so do expect _some_ delay). My credit card was charged immediately, but there has been no reply to my emails sent over the last three weeks. peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:35:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Reiter Subject: Re: Samsonmusic Hi, I had a similar problem when I first ordered from Samson Music from Germany. I didn´t get anything for 10 weeks and no reply to email after the credit card had been charged. i only got a reply after I phoned Gold Circle/Samson music up and they claimed they had already sent the cd out and would do so again. It then did arrive two weeks later. i´ve ordered one more time from Samson since and had no problems with the second order. It seems email may be funneled straight to some digital nirvana so I´d suggest calling them up. Christian On Wed, 31 May 2000, Mr. P. Kulawec wrote: > Hi > > A quick query for people who have ordered from the Samson Music > website - how long did you have to wait until the order was sent? > > I ask because I ordered Rhodesongs a month and a half ago, but have > not received anything (I'm in the UK so do expect _some_ delay). My credit > card was charged immediately, but there has been no reply to my emails > sent over the last three weeks. > > peter > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:26:44 +0200 From: "Marcel Rijs" Subject: A Sound Library Hi, So this question has been bugging me for a couple of months now. Being an avid collector of a lot of popular music on vinyl and CD, I have always wondered what happens to our contemporary music. Here in the Netherlands, there is a deposit for books, so that each and every book published here since 1974 can be found at the national library. In practise, this will not always be true, but I think that 90% will always be available for future generations. How different this is for music! I don't even know of such an institution here and I was wondering if something like this exists in the UK or US. To pick an example: if I would want to listen to (and see) chart hits from 1984, where would I turn? Is there any library that collecs records and CDs? It seems so weird that everything we're listening to now is not stored anywhere. Perhaps I just worry too much.....? Kind regards, ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:52:33 -0400 From: "Sampson,Christopher" Subject: RE: A Sound Library What a noble compulsion! :) To my knowledge, there is no such institution in the US... What need for this that has been recognized has been heretofore attended by radio (which has commercialized it to within an inch of its life). It strikes me that some industrious individuals may fill this need with MP3 files on the internet (copyright laws be damned!) and that independently run sites may be coordinated in an online database/jump station... How exciting! Chris Sampson - -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Rijs To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: 5/31/00 9:26 AM Subject: A Sound Library Hi, So this question has been bugging me for a couple of months now. Being an avid collector of a lot of popular music on vinyl and CD, I have always wondered what happens to our contemporary music. Here in the Netherlands, there is a deposit for books, so that each and every book published here since 1974 can be found at the national library. In practise, this will not always be true, but I think that 90% will always be available for future generations. How different this is for music! I don't even know of such an institution here and I was wondering if something like this exists in the UK or US. To pick an example: if I would want to listen to (and see) chart hits from 1984, where would I turn? Is there any library that collecs records and CDs? It seems so weird that everything we're listening to now is not stored anywhere. Perhaps I just worry too much.....? Kind regards, ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:10:46 -0500 From: "Mattoon, Melanie" Subject: New Bohemians They're releasing a new album on June 9th (which is a Friday, go figure) called "the live montauk sessions". I don't know if this is only an online date or not - they have no other release info. They also have some concert dates: June 9th Stubbs Waller Creek Amphitheatre Austin, Texas June 17th City Stages Music Festival Birmingham, Alabama Blockbuster Cafe Stage 10:05-11:35 PM I have seen them live twice in the past 6 months and they still put on an excellent show and the new songs sound great. Check out http://www.newbohemians.com for more info. np cocteau twins - violaine ep2 nr neil gaiman - neverwhere ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:16:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: A Sound Library On Wed, 31 May 2000, Marcel Rijs wrote: > So this question has been bugging me for a couple of months now. Being > an avid collector of a lot of popular music on vinyl and CD, I have > always wondered what happens to our contemporary music. Here in the > Netherlands, there is a deposit for books, so that each and every book > published here since 1974 can be found at the national library. In > practise, this will not always be true, but I think that 90% will always > be available for future generations. That is an interesting question. I know the movie industry has been struggling with that in recent years, as old films were getting destroyed and ongoing restoration work was costly and time consuming. I guess the films just break down in their canisters, so when they open up the original reels from 40 years ago, they are just dust (or, more likely, muck). Similar type things have been known to happen to music master tapes too. I wonder if the Library of Congress does anything to catalog music from the US? neal np: E-bow the Letter (single) - R.E.M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Scott S. Zimmerman" Subject: Re: A Sound Library > I wonder if the Library of Congress does anything to catalog music from > the US? Yes. There's a highly-highly obscure law known something to the effect of the "mandatory deposit act" REQUIRING that two new copies of a CD/LP/7"/Cassette that is manufactured for sale be submitted to the Library of Congress by whoever it is that holds the copyright/distribution license for the US. It's not mentioned in any of the music industry "how to" books that I've ever read. The books do all mention that you can send in $25 and a cassette of music to officially register the copyright of the songs -- this is optional. What is required is sending in the final retail package - and an optional $25 to officially copyright it - otherwise the title will just be logged as existing. Supposedly, officially registering a copyright allows you to sue for damages should someone decide to start bootlegging your cd, or what not. Otherwise you can only sue to have somebody cease and desist.... I found out about this "mandatory deposit" requirement because the Library of Congress sent me a notice saying that I was in violation and that if I didn't send in two copies of all of my releases I would be fined something like $200 per title. I guess it's their way of keeping up with subversive indie record labels, film companies, book publishers, etc. It was nice to be noticed! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:35:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon Subject: Re: A Sound Library > > I wonder if the Library of Congress does anything to catalog music from > > the US? but isn't that the job of meth'n'woj's house o' muzak? ;) seriously... how many cds and related items are you guys up to these days? hmmm... neile'n'jim are doing a pretty good job too, from what i saw this weekend. - -damon np - hand to mouth, _weightless_ - i'll be doing the guide entry for them soon, but have to say now, they're *highly* recommended! Damon Harper _/\_ "She spoke amazingly slowly, as damon@jumeaux.bc.ca __\ /__ if she were inventing the \ / language as she went along." http://jumeaux.bc.ca/damon/ |/||\| - from Youth in Revolt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:00:58 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: Fwd: Merrie Amsterburg Update- NEW CD! >Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:29:22 -0400 >From: Jessica Smyser >Subject: Merrie Amsterburg Update- NEW CD! > >**Tuesday, June 6 >Merrie Amsterburg CD Release Date >To celebrate Merrie will be playing two in-stores that day at Newbury Comics: >NOON - Government Center Store, 1 Washington Mall in Boston 617-248-9992 >6 pm - Newbury st. store, 332 Newbury street in Boston 617-236-4930 >Come on down and buy her new CD Little Steps! > >**Thursday, June 8 & Friday, June 9 >Merrie Amsterburg plays 2 nights in celebration of her new CD. The music starts at 10 pm each night. Also appearing:Thursday The Harold Layne Trio, Friday Ad Frank. >The Lizard Lounge is located at 1667 Massachusetts Ave in Porter Square, Cambridge. The phone number is (617) 547-0759. > >**Tuesday, June 13 >Merrie will be playing at Fez in New york city. this is an early show, 8 PM >Fez is located Under Time Cafe at 380 Lafayette @ Great Jones in New York City,the phone number is (212) 533-2680 > >Support your local retailer! Merrie's CD Little steps will be distributed by Universal, they're big and should reach everywhere, If your local store doesn't have it tell them to get it. The label is Zoe. You can also check out www.qdivision.com on tuesday to buy the new CD. >__________________________________________________________ >If you would like to be added to the Q Events mailing list please e-mail me back and say "let me know!" Visit our web site at http://www.qdivision.com >where you can buy CDs! > Q Division Records 363 Highland Ave Somerville, MA 02144 617-625-9900 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:48:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Bowman Subject: Re: A Sound Library On Wed, 31 May 2000, Neal Copperman wrote: > I wonder if the Library of Congress does anything to catalog music from > the US? As Damon mentioned, you're required to send 2 copies of any copyrighted material to the Library of Congress. However, that material doesn't go to the Library's collection automatically. If LC chooses to catalog it, a copy goes on its shelves. Otherwise, it goes to the Copyright warehouse. I would imagine that LC catalogs most of the music it receives, but not all. For an example of a type of material LC's neglected, consider paperback books. They have (in the distant past) been regarded as ephemeral, low brow literature, so LC has cataloged very, very few of them. This obviously restricts their genre fiction collections. Michael Bowman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:27:20 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: A Sound Library Michael Bowman wrote: >I would imagine that LC catalogs most of the music it receives, but not >all. For an example of a type of material LC's neglected, consider >paperback books. They have (in the distant past) been regarded as >ephemeral, low brow literature, so LC has cataloged very, very few of >them. This obviously restricts their genre fiction collections. Yes, this is very true. A friend of mine used to be their semi-official Science Fiction collector (his official role was as their Russian and former Societ Republic collector) until fairly recently and he was amazed at how little had been saved over the years--particularly from the early years of SF when paperback originals were considered even more throwaway than they are today. I can imagine that their music collection is similarly limited--by tastes, fashion, and physical library space available. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #152 **************************