From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #143 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, May 23 2000 Volume 06 : Number 143 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Rhodes II taken :( [neal copperman ] Re: Who sounds better stoned? [vylette ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Witness [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Self promotional item [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Recent changes to the Ectophiles' Guide ["The Ectophiles' Guide" ] RE: MP3, CD RW , etc. ["Sampson,Christopher" ] Re: Who sounds better stoned? [dmw ] Re: Leona Naess ["C Goldberg" ] Re: Who sounds better stoned? ["Neil K. Guy" ] joan osborne news ["JoAnn Whetsell" ] Re: Weird Voices. ["Datura Child" ] Happy's back catalogue ["Adam Kimmel" ] Re: Who sounds better stoned? [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Happy's back catalogue ["Renee Campbell" ] Kate & Anna McGarrigle ["Renee Campbell" ] Re: Kate & Anna McGarrigle ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: Kate & Anna McGarrigle [meredith ] LOUD [meredith ] Re: LOUD [Andrew Fries ] Re: LOUD [Sue Trowbridge ] Re: Kate & Anna McGarrigle/The Ectophiles' Guide [Neile Graham Subject: Rhodes II taken :( Sorry folks... neal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 02:52:13 -0400 From: vylette Subject: Re: Who sounds better stoned? At 04:07 AM 5/21/00 EDT, JudoEWF@aol.com wrote: >I'm coming out of Lurk Ness because I was just wondering if there is any >artist's music whom you think, sounds totally different when you're stoned? ok this isn't quite the right question i'm answering but since when can i resist? and so there is this friend of mine who says that once you are stoned enough, Aphex Twin starts to actually *make sense*, and i don't know if that scares me or what, i'm not really much of a fan and/because i think if his stuff, what little i have, started to Make Sense, ummm well i don't think that would be a where that i'd want to be. i might further add that she is self-reportedly quite fond of mixing, her own music that is, while in a similar state of mind, and so i guess maybe the same applies to her music too? speaking not from experience though i would think that certain prog bands, Yes comes to mind, might have been absolutely just oh so perfectly made for that kind of listening experience, don't you think? or at least it so seems to this outsider. hmmmm all of a sudden i'm craving chocodiles and _Close_to_the_Edge_ ... -veronica np: nothing, but eaaaarlier i wp: _Dusty_Trails_, _Pink_Pearl_ and _Smashing_the_Serene_ (Dusty Trails is i think not yet mentioned here and quite good, Josephine Wiggs & Vivian Trimble, luscious josephine might have been an ok name, or maybe mojave 2 except kinda funky groovy dare i see even lounge-y? i should maybe write about it later sometime when i am less snackseeking ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 03:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Lisa Laane (Laane@cs.stanford.edu) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Dr. Firewall Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Leo rising Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:20:17 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Witness Hi.. Adam wrote.. Anyone know anything about a band called Witness? I picked up their cd, Before the Calm, on spec, and it's quite wonderful -- a haunting collection of muted, melancholic, bruised and aching tunes and semi-tunes (some drift a bit) reminiscent of a mellow Counting Crows or REM's Find the River and the like. The cd is on Island records, and I think they're English, but they sound American. Any clues? Yes..They are english. I think they are friends of the now defunct band Verve and come from Verve's hometown whose name i've forgotten. They got a lot of english press and were called the new Radiohead. Bjork wins best actress?! Wow..That so cool. Did you see the dress she wore at Cannes..Wild. Go check out Esther Valentine at mp3.com..She has a lovely mini album out that sounds like Natalie Merchant crossed with Jewel in her more lucid moments. Very ecto. Am going to London in July. Has anybody got any tips of english records that are essential and good record shops? Anna Maria np-Michelle Young-Song of the Siren nr-Anne Holt-Demonens död __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 03:18:14 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Self promotional item Hi.. As it happens I've written a review for english magazine Hearsay. Their new issue should be out soon. They feature highly ecto friendly folk like Pal Shazar,Innocence Mission,Jules Shear and others of that sort. Check out their website at www.hearsaymagazine.demon.co.uk. Anna Maria __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 04:18:20 -0700 From: "The Ectophiles' Guide" Subject: Recent changes to the Ectophiles' Guide Latest changes to the Ectophiles' Guide 21 May 2000 New Guide entries added for: * Dana & Karen Kletter * Lenore * Jackie Martino * Kate & Anna McGarrigle * Maddy Prior (by request) * Maddy Prior and The Carnival Band - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are receiving this email because you have asked to be notified of updates to the Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music at http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/. If you are no longer interested in receiving these notifications, please unsubscribe yourself using the form at http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/guide.cgi?newsubscribe&action=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:25:43 +0200 From: "Marcel Rijs" Subject: Re: MP3, CD RW , etc. Hi all, A little while ago, Dave Williamson wrote: > But to those of you in effect stealing music: > > In the end you are simply killing the potential for a continued pipeline > of artists that this list in fact celebrates. Small circulation artists > live and breathe by whatever revenues they can gain through the rights > to the music they created. They only get those revenues when you and I > BUY what they create. Every time you copy something from Napster, or > any of the other sources of so called "Free Music" out there on the web, > you are effectively robbing the artist who created it of what they are > due. You are probably also impacting the ability of that artist to > survive and continue to create, and discouraging others from bothering > to record in the first place. I can see how this opinion has formed itself but I'm afraid I will have to take issue with you. First of all, I will _never_ buy a CD if I haven't heard something from it. Second of all, RealAudio is _not_ an option, because the quality leaves too much to be desired. I have all of Happy Rhodes' CD's now, but way back in 1994 I depended on the only store within my reach (Fame in Amsterdam) who sold her CD's to be able to listen to one of her discs in the store. Of course, I was immediately in awe when I'd heard the first few tracks of RhodeSongs, so it was easy to make the decision to buy this disc. The "small circulation artists" will mostly be unavailable in Europe, if we're talking US artists anyway. I cannot go to my local dealer and say, let's hear the new Margot Smith. He'll just look at me with a blank stare and then start laughing. So why not download MP3's? If I like the music, I will surely buy the album. If I don't, the file will be deleted from my harddisk in due time. I can't see how this keeps artists from earning an income. In the old days, I would tape from the radio. The radio isn't much cop these days, so I now use MP3's whenever I can, as long as narrowminded people are allowing me to. MP3 has been declared "evil" mostly by large record companies, making it impossible to store them on webspace provided by ISP's. What about rare tracks, that are impossible to get on CD? What about radio recordings of live performances? I think it's time to stop thinking in dollarsigns and start treating music like music again. People who want to 'own' CD's will never stop buying them, people burning CD's from MP3's were never going to buy albums in the first place. Kind regards, Marcel Rijs Koninklijke Bibliotheek afd. Voorlichting ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:26:26 -0400 From: "Sampson,Christopher" Subject: RE: MP3, CD RW , etc. In other genres, the CDs don't make the money for the artist, anyway. I'm thinking specifically of jazz. Such a one as Dave Brubeck won't make any money on his recordings (even if the contract is negotiated overwhelmingly in his favor... the money just never shows up). I have this on good word from his manager. The CD makes the artist known. What profits there are go to the record company. The artist (in this genre, at least) makes his/her money touring and doing gigs. I don't know if such a one as Emily Bezar (to take my favorite example) would make money on the CDs (presuming that, upon hitting it "big" she still sold/distributed on her own)... It may be like my (mis?)understanding of the publishing industry, in which writers rarely see any money from the royalties, but, instead, make their money on the "advances". The internet makes it possible (not necessarily probable, mind you) for writers to profit from the old "vanity press" strategy... Hopefully for the recording artists, too... and I agree that those who will, still will, and those who burn MP3s onto CDs weren't gonna, anyway... at least as far as generalizations go... Chris Sampson - -----Original Message----- From: Marcel Rijs To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: 5/22/00 10:25 AM Subject: Re: MP3, CD RW , etc. Hi all, A little while ago, Dave Williamson wrote: > But to those of you in effect stealing music: > > In the end you are simply killing the potential for a continued pipeline > of artists that this list in fact celebrates. Small circulation artists > live and breathe by whatever revenues they can gain through the rights > to the music they created. They only get those revenues when you and I > BUY what they create. Every time you copy something from Napster, or > any of the other sources of so called "Free Music" out there on the web, > you are effectively robbing the artist who created it of what they are > due. You are probably also impacting the ability of that artist to > survive and continue to create, and discouraging others from bothering > to record in the first place. I can see how this opinion has formed itself but I'm afraid I will have to take issue with you. First of all, I will _never_ buy a CD if I haven't heard something from it. Second of all, RealAudio is _not_ an option, because the quality leaves too much to be desired. I have all of Happy Rhodes' CD's now, but way back in 1994 I depended on the only store within my reach (Fame in Amsterdam) who sold her CD's to be able to listen to one of her discs in the store. Of course, I was immediately in awe when I'd heard the first few tracks of RhodeSongs, so it was easy to make the decision to buy this disc. The "small circulation artists" will mostly be unavailable in Europe, if we're talking US artists anyway. I cannot go to my local dealer and say, let's hear the new Margot Smith. He'll just look at me with a blank stare and then start laughing. So why not download MP3's? If I like the music, I will surely buy the album. If I don't, the file will be deleted from my harddisk in due time. I can't see how this keeps artists from earning an income. In the old days, I would tape from the radio. The radio isn't much cop these days, so I now use MP3's whenever I can, as long as narrowminded people are allowing me to. MP3 has been declared "evil" mostly by large record companies, making it impossible to store them on webspace provided by ISP's. What about rare tracks, that are impossible to get on CD? What about radio recordings of live performances? I think it's time to stop thinking in dollarsigns and start treating music like music again. People who want to 'own' CD's will never stop buying them, people burning CD's from MP3's were never going to buy albums in the first place. Kind regards, Marcel Rijs Koninklijke Bibliotheek afd. Voorlichting ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:20:46 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Who sounds better stoned? On Mon, 22 May 2000, vylette wrote: > At 04:07 AM 5/21/00 EDT, JudoEWF@aol.com wrote: > > >I'm coming out of Lurk Ness because I was just wondering if there is any > >artist's music whom you think, sounds totally different when you're stoned? > > ok this isn't quite the right question i'm answering but since when > can i resist? and so there is this friend of mine who says that once > you are stoned enough, Aphex Twin starts to actually *make sense*, and > i don't know if that scares me or what, i'm not really much of a fan > and/because i think if his stuff, what little i have, started to Make > Sense, ummm well i don't think that would be a where that i'd want to > be. > > i might further add that she is self-reportedly quite fond of mixing, > her own music that is, while in a similar state of mind, and so i > guess maybe the same applies to her music too? i have to recommend against this practice! what sounds great when you're stoned may sound absolutely dreadful later, but then you're stuck with it. some of us got high after recording the last tracks for our demo, just as we were doing the mixdown -- not my usual bag, but after the stress of laying down vocal tracks i was desperately hungry for some mellowness. unfortunately, listening to it now, i can only respond "*what* were we thinking!?" since i *know* what we were on. (it's hard enough figuring out what the music is going to sound like on speakers in the real world; nothing else on earth sounds like studio reference monitors) - -- d. np pedro the lion _winners never quit_ (which is knocking me out this morning.) - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:26:47 -0700 From: "C Goldberg" Subject: Re: Leona Naess She also has two free Virgin Megastore performances at her SF and LA appearances. I've seen her a few times here in LA and I'm still not convinced. To each their own. On a non-related note, Me'Shell Ndegeocello did a secret show last Saturday (Sunday morning) in Santa Monica. Now that WAS a convincing musical experience. csg >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:17:25 -0700 >From: RAVEN@igc.org >Subject: Re[2]: leona naess > >At 12:05 05/18/2000, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > >>There's a web site at http://www.leonanaess.com/ and it has a "jukebox" >>feature, so you can listen to "Charm Attack" and a couple other songs >>(albeit very low fi). > >For the left-coasters here, Leona is doing three solo gigs this week: > > 23 May The MINT Los Angeles > 24 May SLIM's San Francisco > 25 May Big Fish Pub Tempe AZ > > NOTE, the 'Bash on Ash' show listed on her website > has been canceled, replaced by the Big Fish Pub show. > >>Note: the web site is incredibly elaborate with lots of flash >>animation, so beware if you have an older computer/browser. > >Fortunately, one can bypass the flash intro, or if you like it, >you can download your own screensaver copy at: > > > >>I guess these days, everyone's expected to be on the bleeding edge >>of technology... > >That seems to be the assumption of many... those assumptions turn me >off quickly, encouraging me to hit the back-arrow and go elsewhere. > >John - who may see some of you at SLIM's this Wednesday. > >RAVEN > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:32:18 -0700 From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Re: Who sounds better stoned? At 4:07 AM -0400 5/21/00, JudoEWF@aol.com wrote: >I'm coming out of Lurk Ness because I was just wondering if there is any >artist's music whom you think, sounds totally different when you're stoned? > >I don't want this to get into a discussion about pot because we all know it's >illegal and ...I was just wondering. Hm. Well if you don't want to talk about illegal recreationals, what do you mean? Stoned in, say, the Biblical sense? - Neil K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:40:54 EDT From: "JoAnn Whetsell" Subject: joan osborne news I'm not sure how or why it popped into my head to check on Joan Osborne's recording status a few minutes ago, but I'm glad I did. I found this info on a fan page: "Some inspiring news... May 4th, Billboard reports that Joan is expected to sign with major label Interscope Records. Apparently, Joan's album will be titled "Righteous Love" rather than the previously mentioned title "Curds and Whey." A possible release date for the album is sometime by September. In the meantime, the title track from the album will be the featured cut on the upcoming soundtrack to HBO's popular comedy series Sex and the City. Righteous Love will be released as a single for radio play sometime in July or August. The soundtrack is set for a June 6th release." - -JoAnn ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:37:36 EDT From: "Datura Child" Subject: Re: Weird Voices. >From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" >Reply-To: >To: "ecto" >Subject: Weird Voices. >Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 22:28:42 -0400 > > >And given the broad definition of "weird", I'd like to mention Annie Haslam >for her gorgeous and ethereal chant near the end of the live version of >Ashes Are Burning. Yowzer! > Here, here! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:29:12 +0100 From: "Adam Kimmel" Subject: Happy's back catalogue Wait a minute, hold the phone, there ---- you mean Samson haven't = re-released Happy's back catalogue? This is something of a blow to me, = as I still only have Many Worlds... to intrigue me, and my two attempts = to purchase her music where advertised (Pentagon.net and Harmony Ridge) = have both resulted in them having to admit that, although advertised, = they're not actually available. Going to Samson direct was going to be = my next step. So, what's the deal with them, then? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:52:59 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Who sounds better stoned? On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 11:32:18AM -0700, Neil K. Guy wrote: > Hm. Well if you don't want to talk about illegal recreationals, what > do you mean? > > Stoned in, say, the Biblical sense? In that case: definitely Nick Cave. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Jerusaklyn http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:08:23 CDT From: "Renee Campbell" Subject: Re: Happy's back catalogue They carry some of her Back Catalouge... I got Rearmament fom Samson last month... they only ones I don't think I have are Rhodes I and II... which REALLY NEED to be REISSUED!!!! ~Renee - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Adam Kimmel" Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:29:12 +0100 >Wait a minute, hold the phone, there ---- you mean Samson haven't = re-released Happy's back catalogue? This is something of a blow to me, = as I still only have Many Worlds... to intrigue me, and my two attempts = to purchase her music where advertised (Pentagon.net and Harmony Ridge) = have both resulted in them having to admit that, although advertised, = they're not actually available. Going to Samson direct was going to be = my next step. So, what's the deal with them, then? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:11:55 CDT From: "Renee Campbell" Subject: Kate & Anna McGarrigle What the Hell is Up with Kate & Anna McGarrigle being added to the Guide? that's a little off... don't you think? ~Renee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:49:56 -0400 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: Kate & Anna McGarrigle > What the Hell is Up with Kate & Anna McGarrigle being added > to the Guide? that's a little off... don't you think? Ignorance and intolerance I understand; acting proud of them I don't. If _Heartbeats Accelerating_ and _Matapedia_, at the very least, don't count as Ecto, then we better just go back to listing all the places that it's sad Happy Rhodes never comes to play. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:24:37 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Kate & Anna McGarrigle Hi! Renee exclaimed: >What the Hell is Up with Kate & Anna McGarrigle being added to the Guide? that's a little off... don't you think? Not at all. Several ectophiles are big fans of the McGarrigles. That in itself qualifies them for inclusion there -- hell, even if ONE ectophile is a big fan of an artist and wants to do a page, I don't think Neile is going to refuse to include it on the site. (Neile, please correct me if I'm wrong.) The name of the site is "The Ectophiles' Guide To Good Music". Not "The two artists that absolutely everyone on the list can agree need to be there." +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:40:15 -0400 From: meredith Subject: LOUD Hi! A friend of mine pointed me to the web site of a Vancouver trio called LOUD (http://www.taikoelectric.com/index2.html). The group consists of two taiko drummers and one electric guitarist, all women. Their music is all instrumental, and at least from what I could gather from the RealAudio samples on the site (don't bother with the MP3's - even if you can download them, they appear to be recorded at the wrong speed :P) it's very tasty stuff. It's somewhat reminiscent of the Blue Man Group. Worth checking out! +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:54:05 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: LOUD On Mon, 22 May 2000, meredith wrote: >A friend of mine pointed me to the web site of a Vancouver trio called LOUD >(http://www.taikoelectric.com/index2.html). The group consists of two >taiko drummers and one electric guitarist, all women. > >Their music is all instrumental, and at least from what I could gather from >the RealAudio samples on the site (don't bother with the MP3's - even if >you can download them, they appear to be recorded at the wrong speed :P) Don't give up without trying - those mp3s work just fine for me. Perhaps Meredith's computer is too fast :) ... and yep, they sound pretty neat! - ------------------------------------------------------ "If we took a random sampling of observers of the same sunset, chances are a few would think the sun got larger, a few would insist it stayed the same size, and an appallingly large number would have been looking in the wrong direction." -- Dr. Science - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:07:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: LOUD > On Mon, 22 May 2000, meredith wrote: > > >Their music is all instrumental, and at least from what I could gather from > >the RealAudio samples on the site (don't bother with the MP3's - even if > >you can download them, they appear to be recorded at the wrong speed :P) If MP3's sound wrong to you, they may need to be "uncooked" before you play them. Check out this FAQ: http://www108.pair.com/fma/uncook952.htm It might do the trick, and it is a relatively simple process. - --Sue Trowbridge * albany, california trow@slip.net * http://www.interbridge.com np: talking heads ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:48:32 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Kate & Anna McGarrigle/The Ectophiles' Guide >Renee wrote: > >>What the Hell is Up with Kate & Anna McGarrigle being added to the Guide? >that's a little off... don't you think? Meredith wrote: >Not at all. > >Several ectophiles are big fans of the McGarrigles. That in itself >qualifies them for inclusion there -- There's been ectobuzzes about several of The McGarrigles' albums, particularly _Heartbeats Accelerating_ (sometime I'm going to visit the archives and request some of the earlier commentary from the days before I realized I wanted to to The Guide an began to _look_ for comments). There are artists in The Guide from all kinds of genres--even country (which to me is beyond the pale [I'm only kind of joking here]). Th only area I haven't gone into is classical becuase there already are good guides to classical music out there, though an Ectophiles' Guide to classical music would likely feel a little different, it wouldn't be as different as say, Amazon's reviews are to The Ectophiles' Guide reviews >hell, even if ONE ectophile is a big >fan of an artist and wants to do a page, I don't think Neile is going to >refuse to include it on the site. (Neile, please correct me if I'm wrong.) We have many entries with only one commentator listed, and several (there will be way more in the future) mini-entries on artists that have had little commentary in ecto, mostly in the As where for a while I concentrated on working my way through the alphabet. There's an entry for Paula Abdul! And yes, if there's an artist that someone wants to do an entry on, I'm pretty open to it. My philosophy in The Guide is that there is some common ground in the artists we tend to like, and that's what makes the conglomeration of opinions so interesting. And while there is some critical mass of opinions on various artists (I am *so* swamped under trying to update Happy's pages it's frightening) there is also a lot of room at the fringes to address the wide range of tastes the group has. >The name of the site is "The Ectophiles' Guide To Good Music". Not "The >two artists that absolutely everyone on the list can agree need to be there." There wouldn't even be two we could all agree on, would there? Not even Happy. Not even Kate... - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #143 **************************