From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #134 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, May 14 2000 Volume 06 : Number 134 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] Kate Cover/Love and Basketball [Matthew Woods ] review - kym brown and lily frost at new music west [Damon des Jumeaux ] Re: Jorane [Neile Graham ] Re: theremin (WAS Re: review - kym brown etc) [Jeffrey Burka ] lily frost again. amd EWS [Damon des Jumeaux ] Re: Kate Cover/Love and Basketball [Neal Copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 03:00:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Steve Fagg (nightwol@dircon.co.uk) ******************** ******************* Karel Zuiderveld (karel@cv.ruu.nl) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 00 07:51:01 EDT From: Matthew Woods Subject: Kate Cover/Love and Basketball Hey all, Has anyone seen Love and Basketball? I saw a trailer for it the other day, and was very startled to hear a cover of Kate Bush's "This Woman's Work" playing during the trailer. Don't know who was singing it, but it didn't sound like Kate. If anyone is interested in hearing the trailer in question, it can be found at: http://www.Apple.com/trailers/ - - Matt ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon des Jumeaux Subject: review - kym brown and lily frost at new music west i just got back from seeing kym perform in new music west at richards on richards downtown (vancouver). it's almost two in the morning but for some reason i'm still not tired (might be the ringing ears), so i figured i'd start writing a review of sorts while things were still fresh in my mind... though you probably won't be seeing this posted tonight. :) first off, let me start by saying a great big THANK YOU to the city of vancouver for the no-smoking-in-public-places bylaw which has recently been passed. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY! i knew i was going to come see kym perform either today or yesterday at RonR, and had been rather dreading the smoke, as it always leaves me feeling ill afterwards. then, earlier this week, i learned for the first time about the bylaw. what a difference it makes, wow. neile, you should start visiting for concerts more often. imagine seeing veda or kym without suffering. :) i'm sorry now that i missed the show yesterday; it was the georgia straight awards, and when kym mentioned that they were going to mix 'n' match between the various bands it sounded like a bit of a recipe for disaster. apparently it turned out really well though. ah well... probably best not to stay up so late two nights in a row. anyway, i had planned to go a bit earlier tonight to catch at least some of payton rule's set, since i've heard her name bandied about quite a bit lately. unfortunately the friend i was going with was working late, and also waffling a bit about whether or not to go, so we ended up getting there just in time for kym's set. as it turned out i got to see/hear payton rule a bit, as she sang with kym for her first two songs, and her last. however, i didn't get much sense for what she sounded like individually. kym is building quite a band! still the same woman on keyboards (unfortunately i forget her name, but i always think of her as the Amazon - - she's very tall and tanned :), but the former drummer has been replaced by a guy, with another new guy on guitar (sorry, again no names). kym started out with a little of her trademark "commanding the box" - that's how i think of the way she stands in front of a box thing - i'm not sure if it's actually a synthesiser of some sort or just a prop ;) - and motions as though she's conjuring the strange sounds out of it - rising and falling sawing synth tones. i think it's a great `stage gimmick'... fun to watch. then they exploded into a new song i hadn't heard before... something very poppy, and so different from what has come before that i really thought it might be a cover of something else, but it turned out it wasn't. it sounded good, but unfortunately i really don't have the ears for loud live concerts - the same thing happened on veda's first song of the set last time i saw her (last year, now, i guess): it sounded interesting but was mostly just a wash of indistinguishable sound. made me wish i *was* taping the show this time, as i've noticed that listening later to the recording of a live show there's much more opportunity to actually hear what's going on. fortunately for my sense of orientation kym then performed a bunch of songs off _pygmalion_: galatea, blue box, eta, milk and plenty, and deep and hollow. (not necessarily in quite that order, and i may be missing something as i only thought to take notes for ecto partway through :) all with enough differences to make it interesting - it's always nice when an artist gives you a constantly changing window into old songs. it's a matter of different emphases, i think, bringing out different parts of the songs in different ways so that you almost think hey! i never thought of it that way before. i remember thinking the same thing the other times i've heard kym live. i was happy to get to sing along (happy because no one could possibly hear me there ;) to d&h, one of my favourites. oh, and during that song i finally started properly noticing the visuals they were displaying on screens above the stage... up until that point i'd been under the impression that they were just displaying some fairly random patterns and hadn't realised they had anything to do with the band onstage. i couldn't help noticing the rather amusing clinton-in-a-hitler-moustache thing at that point. the final song was another new one, and again more upbeat and poppy than i would have expected. again, a little too loud to really figure out since i didn't already know the lyrics, but it seemed to start off with a dream about riding a giant turtle, and basically be a happy undersea dream type thing. i may have missed something. but the visuals i'd finally noticed helped, displaying a lot of undersea imagery. lovely shots of turtles and dolphins and rays. :) all in all an enjoyable set, if marred a bit for me by the volume (but not, thank god, by the usual cigarette smoke ;). i often think that if live performances could be turned down a few decibels it'd be better all around... less distortion, more chance of actually hearing new lyrics. but ah well, still a fun night! one bad moment when the mic suddenly cut out, and then was on and off again for a minute or two, but kym seemed to handle it well enough. i'd been wondering about her costume, which i discovered afterwards was a `sexy burger' top (who comes up with some of these t-shirt ideas? and who *makes* them? :) and a skirt made from a black garbage bag with stapled-on condiment packages. is this label deal shopping? wrapped up in a convenient fast food package for easy consumption? or just kym's special style? :) kym's site is at http://www.kymbrown.com/, where she has realaudio samples; i also have mp3s of the (sanctioned) recordings i made of one of her performances last year, at http://www.jumeaux.bc.ca/kymbrown/ i was expecting to enjoy kym's set, of course, but the real surprise for me tonight occurred when we decided to stay and hear the next act, another local artist avec band named lily frost. but it's almost 3am now, so i'll continue this tomorrow... (oo, how did the eurythmics get in there? :) (ok, i had lots of sleeping to catch up on) so, lily frost is a female songwriter and vocalist (who also plays a mean tambourine :), backed by a band of three guys on electric guitars and one guy on drums. this to me doesn't quite sound like my kind of band right off the bat, but i didn't even have time to notice the heavy guitar emphasis before i was entranced. she started out with a spoken intro, which i can't remember verbatim but which was basically about modern life as applied to the audience... ending with "you're cynical... and OVERSTIMULATED" (this last screamed over screaming guitars). throughout the intro one (or more, not sure) of the guitarists was making very interesting and semi-creepy metallic sounds with his guitar, which sounds turned up from time to time elsewhere in their performance as well. then they launched into a funky song with no lyrics, just lily making vague noises (including giggles) into the microphone once in a while. seemed like it ought to be annoying, but it was really good... and helped keep the mystery going a little longer too, since you still really had no idea what she was going to be like once she started actually singing. i think that's a lot of what the whole intro was about... grabbing attention and keeping the audience guessing. and it worked; people really took notice. they then played quite a mixed set - most of it could probably be safely classed as alternapop, but was nonetheless quite varied... i'm trying to come up with genre descriptions or comparisons but i always have *such* a hard time with that. um... a lot of it seemed dark-ish; not depressing dark, just slightly on the dark side of neutral, which was probably mostly due to her vocals and the stage she set during the intro. there's something sort of... langorous, and sensual, about her, both in terms of vocals and stage presence. her voice is very smooth, and quite beautiful. the music ranged quite far, including some very groovy/funky songs, some more sparse and acoustic-like moments, some rather `experimental' sounding like the intro, some more straghtforward guitar pop, one song, `st. augustine', was done in a very spanish style; one, `laure elaine', was in french (it seems she's from montreal, and more of her material is also in french). sometimes they reminded me a *tiny* bit of rose chronicles - not that lily sounds much like kristy thirsk - much more smooth - but maybe something in the guitar work. i wish i could come up with other comparisons but i'm traditionally so bad at that anyway... not sure what else to say about her, except that i think she's definitely ecto-fodder. there's a web site for them at http://www.monkey-boy.com/lilyfrost/ (rather annoying - and good luck seeing anything if you don't have/use javascript (in which case just go to http://www.monkey-boy.com/lilyfrost/main.html - but you still won't be able to navigate very well without javascript mouseovers)) on the site there are also some 60-second mp3 samples. to my ear they sound a bit more uniform than the stage performance, but they still give a good feel for the sound... and her voice. so has anyone else here heard of her? i checked my ecto digest indexing site (good lord, i have to start working on that again! it would be so useful!) and didn't find anything; though of course that only contains digests up until about this time last year. i'm currently grabbing all the more recent digests from smoe so i can check... i looked to see if they were selling cds at the concert, but i didn't see anything; though on their site it mentions a cd release party in april, so hopefully they do have something out. i've written the contact address mentioned on the site to ask where i can find it. there was one more performer after lily frost, kim bingham from quebec, and we stayed for the very start of her set, but it was far too hardcore rock for me and i was getting pretty tired anyway, so we left. what a great night! two good shows in one sitting. :) - -damon PS - no, even searching all archives to date there's no mention of lily frost i can see. could this be the first time i've ever mentioned a totally new artist on ecto? wow. Damon Harper des Jumeaux _/\_ "Cannot say. Saying, I would damon@jumeaux.bc.ca __\ /__ know. Do not know. So, cannot Les Jums: jumeaux@jumeaux.bc.ca \ / say." http://www.jumeaux.bc.ca/damon/ |/||\| - Zathras, B5 ------------------------------ Date: 13 May 2000 12:49:43 -0700 From: John Drummond Subject: theremin (WAS Re: review - kym brown etc) > kym started out with a little of her > trademark "commanding the box" - that's how i think > of the way she stands in front of a box thing - i'm > not sure if it's actually a synthesiser of some sort > or just a prop ;) - and motions as though she's > conjuring the strange sounds out of it - rising and > falling sawing synth tones. i think it's a great > `stage gimmick'... fun to watch. The "box" in question actually *is* a musical instrument... it's called a theremin... it's a box that creates electromagnetic fields, and sounds are created by interrupting those fields with one's hands or some other object... the theremin is mainly known for its use in creating "spooky" noises for cheesy 70s horror movie soundtracks... actually, Diamanda Galás has stated in interviews that oftentimes the only way for the more experimental composers of the 60s and 70s to receive any recognition was through scoring b-movie horror flicks... she said that although what you're seeing on the screen may not be all that interesting, the background music is fascinating... anyhow... so theremin is a big part of that. Whatever. Just FYI. It's not a stage gimmick, it's a real instrument that takes skill and practice to play. John [scandalous and fabulous both end in -ous] Quote of the YEAR 2-THOU' : "i want to brush my teeth with your katana, potluck." - - Baby _______________________________________________________________________ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 12:58:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon des Jumeaux Subject: Re: theremin (WAS Re: review - kym brown etc) John Drummond clued me in: > The "box" in question actually *is* a musical instrument... it's called a theremin... it's a box that creates electromagnetic fields, and sounds are created by interrupting those fields with one's hands or some other object... the theremin is mainly known for its use in creating "spooky" noises for cheesy 70s horror movie soundtracks... actually, Diamanda Galás has stated in interviews that oftentimes the only way for the more experimental composers of the 60s and 70s to receive any recognition was through scoring b-movie horror flicks... she said that although what you're seeing on the screen may not be all that interesting, the background music is fascinating... anyhow... so theremin is a big part of that. > > Whatever. Just FYI. It's not a stage gimmick, it's a real instrument that takes skill and practice to play. ah, thanks john! now i feel like i just let my ignorance show through... but hey; one lives, one learns. i *did* think it had to be more than just a `stage gimmick' - see, my impression was always that she was motioning to someone who was producing the effects. not sure why i thought that... also not sure why i never thought to ask kym herself. :) thanks - -damon Damon Harper des Jumeaux _/\_ "Hey... up close, you're a guy." damon@jumeaux.bc.ca __\ /__ - Col. Flagg Les Jums: jumeaux@jumeaux.bc.ca \ / "From far away, too." http://www.jumeaux.bc.ca/damon/ |/||\| - Klinger, M*A*S*H ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 15:39:14 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: penelope houston news For anyone interested... - --Neile >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:58:42 -0700 >From: Phuzz >Reply-To: phous@earthlink.net >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: penelope >Subject: penelope shows > > Hi Folks, >Oddly enough, I'm playing an acoustic gig at the The Unauthorized Fab Mab >Reunion Show. >Sat May 20th. Here's all the info... and some June shows listed at the >bottom of this email. > >Starring....Dirk Dirksen, The Pope Of Punk! (Or Dope of Drunks, > something like that!) > Jumbo Shrimp! (Instro-Beach PArty Music with ex-DKs > Klaus Fluoride and East BAy Ray!) > Penelope Houston (An Acoustic performance with Katharine > Chase and Michael Papenburg!) > D.J. Lebowitz (The world's only Punk Rock Pianist!) > And More surprises TBA! (very possibly a showing of the great >"Louder Faster Shorter" doc. with the Avengers, Mutants, Sleepers and UXA) > >Plus: Big screen projections of old archival Mabuhay footage and your >favorite old 45s spun by the industrious little record collectors at KALX >Berkeley! If you can still get your sissy ex-punk rock ass out the door >then come on by and find out what all your old friends have been up to and >get harangued by Dirk one more time for the road! > >What: The Unauthorized FAb MAb Reunion Show, starring Dirk Dirksen! >Who: Dirk Dirksen (ex-Mab Mayhemizer), Jumbo Shrimp (ex-Dead > Kennedys), Penelope Houston (ex-Avengers), D.J. Lebowitz (ex- > D.J. Lebowitz), old Mab Videos, cool old 45s, and more! >When: Saturday May 20th, 2000 >Where: Club Cocodrie, 1024 Kearny St, Sf, Ca, Ph: 415.986.6678 >Why: Because not everybody O.D.'d >How Much: 10 puny ones. 18 and over. Advance Tickets on sale now at > Ticketweb.com > >OK... I didn't write that... >Also you can see us live and fairly acoustic June 10th at The Starry >Plough in Berkeley, >and June 17th at the Noe Valley Ministry in SF. More info coming your way >later or go to: >http://www.penelope.net/shows.html > >My new CD "Once in a Blue Moon" is now in stores! Ask for it. >Or buy it right now on my website!!! >http://www.penelope.net/once.html > >Cheers >Penelope > >PS if you don't want to get these emails send an "unsubscribe" message. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 15:48:18 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Jorane At 8:58 PM -0400 5/12/00, meredith wrote: >Hi! > >Neile enthused: > >> Jorane's self-titled disc arrived today from HMV Canada. Wow. Iva Bittova >> meets Kate Bush. Wow. WOW. > >I just listened to the sound samples. Holy *@&%!!! > >I hear some Kristy Thirsk in there too -- but that might just be the >RealAudio. Jim says it's more--in sound at least--Lion and the Cobra-era Sinead meets Iva Bittova, but the Kate Bush sensibility is clear to my mind at least. We're both still loving it. >I'm ordering as I type ... must have! FYI, A&B Sound (www.absound.ca) lists it, too, though HMV (www.hmv.ca/ www.hmv.com) seems a little quicker/more responsive than A&B was, at least the last time I used them. Though I do have a certainly loyalty to A&B after so many years of being the best disc/record store in my life. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:23:58 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: theremin (WAS Re: review - kym brown etc) John Drummond sez: > The "box" in question actually *is* a musical instrument... it's called a > theremin... it's a box that creates electromagnetic fields, and sounds are > created by interrupting those fields with one's hands or some other object... > the theremin is mainly known for its use in creating "spooky" noises for > cheesy 70s horror movie soundtracks... Actually, far more than that, the theremin is known for the "oooo-wee-ooo" sound in the Beach Boys song "Good Vibrations." Once upon a time there was actually music composed for the theremin. Unfortunately, mastering one is extremely difficult -- it basically requires perfect pitch and astounding spatial sensibility -- there's absolutely no tactile feedback to the musician! jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 18:31:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Scott S. Zimmerman" Subject: theremin There's a really interesting documentary on the theremin called "Theremin - - An Electronic Odyssey" which you should be able to find for rental at many cool video stores. Plus it's soon being rereleased on video - inexpensively. It features interviews with inventor Leon Theremin, early 1900s Theremin-virtuoso Clara Rockmore, Brian Wilson, Robert Moog, Todd Rundgren, etc... Some events in Leon Theremin's life will definitely make you go "Whoa! Crazy stuff!" Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:42:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon des Jumeaux Subject: lily frost again. amd EWS just an addendum to my last post re lily frost, since i now know slightly more - i went secondhand shopping today and found a previous release, called _cosmicomic country_. there's no date anywhere on the cd that i can see, but some web searching turned up a very few related links, one of which indicates that it's from last year. lily frost is lindsey davis, formerly of the colorifics, if that's meaningful to anyone. listening to this cd i'm still of the opinion that it's very good stuff! and it does range all over the board... there's some lush guitar stuff, some getting close to country-ish (but on the good side :), and more. and what a great voice. i'll let it sink in more and maybe comment in a little more detail later. she thanks kinnie starr (of whom i know due to her association with veda hille - she's one of the scrappy bitches) on the back. a small web site for _cosmicomic country_ is at http://www.indiepool.com/lilyfrost/. that site also references http://www.lilyfrost.com/, which seems to be down, doing some rather bizarre error redirection. their current site, as i mentioned before, is at http://www.monkey-boy.com/lilyfrost/ - and nothing of _cosmicomic country_ is mentioned there. seems to be quite a mix-up of sites... would be interesting to find out what it all means. i also picked up autour de lucie's _immobile_, joni mitchell's _taming the tiger_ (i didn't realise she had *two* out since turbulent indigo... oh, looks like some compilations too. but the latest seemed far too jazzy for me on first listen; i'll listen to a friend's copy and see if it sinks in), paula cole's _harbinger_, portishead's eponymous cd... and a couple of days ago at another secondhand place i picked up paula's _this fire_, the twin peaks soundtrack, bjork's _debut_ (been meaning to pick that up for a long time), and susan werner's _last of the good straight girls_. quite a shopping spree, especially when used cds are all a few dollars more expensive now than i remember them being. ah well.. it's been a while since i had a flood of new music to listen to. - -damon Damon Harper des Jumeaux _/\_ "Stop zooming in! I have no damon@jumeaux.bc.ca __\ /__ emotions to show you!" Les Jums: jumeaux@jumeaux.bc.ca \ / http://www.jumeaux.bc.ca/damon/ |/||\| - MST3K (R.I.P.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 22:52:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Kate Cover/Love and Basketball On 13 May 2000, Matthew Woods wrote: > Hey all, > > Has anyone seen Love and Basketball? I saw a trailer for it the other day, > and was very startled to hear a cover of Kate Bush's "This Woman's Work" > playing during the trailer. Don't know who was singing it, but it didn't > sound like Kate. If anyone is interested in hearing the trailer in question, > it can be found at: They use (well, actually misuse) Maxwell's version from some 4 or 5 years ago. I remember posting about it when I heard it in my car radio one day and was surprised when someone told me the cover is actually done by a man. It sounds fine in the movie if you overlook the lyrical content o fthe song and just assume that it is a nice love song. (It's used to highlight a romantic moment between two high school kids.) The movie itself is pretty good, though it has a soft, (far too) easy to swallow ending and makes a few assumptions about peoples role in life that I found to be insulting. neal now would be playing if the cd player in my parents computer were to be making any sound (nwbpitcpimcwtbmas?): Offerings - VAS ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #134 **************************