From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #129 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, May 9 2000 Volume 06 : Number 129 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Quote from Chantal Kreviazuk [Jason Kurylo ] Re: JILL SOBULE ["iflin@sirius.com" ] RE: ID yet another commercial song? ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] aimee mann ["JoAnn Whetsell" ] Bob Mould ["Adam Kimmel" ] Re: Bob Mould ["Russ Van Rooy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 03:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Steve Ito (steve.ito@utoronto.ca) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:45:03 -0700 From: Jason Kurylo Subject: Quote from Chantal Kreviazuk >"I don't know where I fit in with Christine Ag...whatever and the >Backstreet children" > ~Chantal Kreviazuk talking about whether her new album will >succeed in the United States. I was lucky enough to interview Chantal just before the Canadian release of this album; she's a funny, clever, and fiercely intelligent individual. She's one of these people whose eyes are absolutely hypnotizing. She's a beautiful young woman, inside and out. The album itself shows a lot more maturity than her first record, but IMHO there's still too much yelling in her delivery. With such a lovely voice, she should feel freer to explore the subtleties of her vox; this is especially true live, where she has a tendency to equate volume with emotion. Still, some neat, hooky pop tunes and a person to watch. I'm constantly wanting to fast forward to hear her sixth album. There's so much potential in the first two that I'm impatient to get to the real thing... Cheers, - -- Jason Kurylo Writer / Graphic Designer eff multimedia productions 2227 Oxford Street, Vancouver, BC, Canada V5L 1G2 jkurylo@direct.ca (604) 570-5015 Phrase I'm Currently Trying to Sneak into a Piece: DELIBERATE ASS-COVERING BEHAVIOUR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:45:51 -0400 From: "iflin@sirius.com" Subject: Re: JILL SOBULE Original Message: > From: JoAnn Whetsell s_nevada76@hotmail.com > is this quotable? did you get the album yet? any new comments? i haven't had a chance to check ECTO in about three months (digest keep piling up ARGGG) and i hvae been a bit out of the music loop for about the same time. NEVERTHELESS i DID pick up the new JILL SOBULE album called PINK PEARL, which was released a couple of weeks ago. she's no longer on her label, and instead has released it by herself, with distribution through BMG. it's great. very much a return to form for JILL, after what i thought was a disappointing last album HAPPY TOWN. not that HT didn't have a few gems, but on the whole there wasn't as much going on there that drew me in. PINK PEARL on the other hand has quite a few gems in it, with the first three songs really drawing me in. included are a few songs she has done in concert like LUCY AT THE GYM (about that girl at the gym you ALWAYS see everytime you go to the gym). notably missing is MONEY SHOT a song about...well the money shot in porn movies. in a brief email note from JILL inquiring about that songs, she says she is hoping to record it later, in a different version, perhaps a really full blown out 70's disco style song of some sort.... the album seems more bitter than her previous albums as well (apparently she didn't heed her own songs BITTER and her previously penned lyrics "i don't want to become bitter"). but more than just bitter, she sounds a bit broken. and not in a bad way, but in a more melancholic way, as if she realizes that things don't always turn out the way you want them too, but you survive anyway. it's really obvious in the later half of the album, with themes like lost love, unrequited love, and lack of faith running through. all in all though it's a good album, that i think i have to listen to more, and pay a little more attention to the lyrics more before i can make any particular judgements. i can say that anyone who liked her second album (the one with I KISSED A GIRL) will probably like this one. but it's not quite as quirky, but she keeps her same sense of storytelling, as well as her off kilter sense of humor throughout. just with another added layer of pathos that wasn't reallyt here before. it seems like much more personal album in retrospect. anyone else pick this one up? thoughts? irvin - ------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been posted from Mail2Web http://www.mail2web.com/ Web Hosting for $9.95 per month! Visit: http://www.yourhosting.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:51:28 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: RE: ID yet another commercial song? I received an answer offline to this query. Thanks! > The song is called "Renaissance Affair" by Hooverphonic off the album: > Blue Wonder Powder Milk > > Here's some links to the album > > Official Site with lyrics: > http://www.huan.com/hooverphonic/discography/lyrics_bluepowermilk.html > > Amazon: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000009QOY/o/qid=957764039/sr=8-2/ref =aps_sr_pm_1_2/103-0732914-1767028 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 21:17:00 -0400 From: Dave Williamson Subject: Re: MP3, CD-R, & c., redux I would be said disturbed individual. I take no issue at all with the use of MP3s and CD burners for the exact purpose you've stated. To quote my original post, I indicated that I was not at odds with recording "music you have in some way legitimately purchased, or music you are sampling at the discretion of the artist". As you state, the existence of this technology provides a marvelous distribution means for independent artists. But it also permits robbery and that's where the dichotomy begins.... Dave. Kim Justice wrote: > There was a comment earlier today, indicating that the poster was disturbed > that we were be talking about technology that's used for piracy. > > Maybe I missed part of the thread, but all I remember replying to in regard > to MP3 encoding and CD-R was stuff having to do with an independent artist > like myself who wanted to upload to MP3.com or burn a CD of their work as > part of an effort at self-promotion. > > However, IMHO: > > 1. The digital genie's out of the bottle and it's going to > be hard to put it back in again. > 2. "Music is not the music industry." -- Keith Jarrett > 3. All this affordable digital technology is a great boon > for indie artists. > 4. Re Metallica vs. Napster: If I found out tomorrow that > 350,000 people downloaded pirated copies of my songs > over a weekend, I'd faint with joy. It's especially > amusing given that they encouraged bootlegging of their > early work to spread the word. > 5. Scarcity increases value; artists and labels are going > to have to figure out how to make money in other ways, > now that the bitstreams that represent their recorded > works are no longer difficult or expensive to reproduce. > In a way, the Rolling Stones and other acts already > realize that it is the event of performance and things > like t-shirts and trinkets that have value, not their > latest CD. For good or ill, I suspect that the music that > gets paid for will have attributes that cannot be carried > via digital media; for example, fancy artwork and collector > cases and such will become more prevalent for selling CDs. > 6. Over time, I think our culture will rediscover the value > of amateur performance. Art has become too professional > and has too much monetary value attached to it. > > kj > > -- > justicek@home.com (Kim Justice) > Free kj music at http://www.mp3.com/kimjustice > "There can always be new beginnings, even for people like us." > -- Susan Ivanova ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 23:52:58 EDT From: "JoAnn Whetsell" Subject: aimee mann hi. i'm almost done with aimee mann's page for the guide, but wanted some more comments. and neile, if you could send me her file, that would be great. JoAnn ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:29:51 +0100 From: "Adam Kimmel" Subject: Bob Mould "Bob did a pretty goodset. All of his songs tend to sound the same to me (guy shouting nasally over loudly strummed 12-string guitar), but I wasn't repelled. " To be honest, I love Bob's music, but I've seen him twice live ---- once with Sugar and once with his won backing band --- and he's sucked both times, delivering pretty much the performance described with deadly accuracy above. He storms through his set, as if afraid that slowing down would be showing his age, and subsequently steamrollers all of the nuances and subtleties out that make his music so appealing. I think I may be repeating myself here (from my first posting a couple of months ago), but it's well worth checking out his first solo release, "Workbook", which -- apart from a couple of hard rockers --- is a heartbreakingly lovely album, featuring the wondrous, dolorous tones of jane scarpantoni's cello. His subsequent releases have been much rockier, but he still has a great way with a tune and a sharp twist with a lyric. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:33:46 -0700 From: "Russ Van Rooy" Subject: Re: Bob Mould Wow , my first post to the ecto list and it's about a performer I never thought I'd see talked about in here...Just goes to show what a wide spectrum of artists we can talk about . Bob Mould ! What an incredible song writer, guitarist, and powerful singer ! I love Husker Du, Sugar, and all of Bob's solo work. Currently listening pretty heavily to "Candy Apple Grey" and "Last Dog and Pony Show". Two songs on CAG, "Hardly Getting Over It" and "Too Far Down" forbode ( I like that) his later solo stuff like "New #1" . I've seen Bob twice also, once during the 'Last Dog and Pony Show' tour (awesomely electric) and then just about two months ago (acoustic) . Both times I felt like he was very present with his music as well as with the audience. He is an intense fellow ,but I think he definitely has a sense of humour ! Definitely some of the most emotionally intelligent "rawk" music out there ! Wow, Bob Mould ! Does this mean we can talk about Tom Verlaine and Richard Thompson and Neil Young too ? thanks ! Russ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Kimmel" To: "ecto list" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:29 PM Subject: Bob Mould > "Bob did a pretty goodset. All of his songs tend to sound the same to me > (guy shouting nasally over loudly strummed 12-string guitar), but I wasn't > repelled. " > > To be honest, I love Bob's music, but I've seen him twice live ---- once > with Sugar and once with his won backing band --- and he's sucked both > times, delivering pretty much the performance described with deadly accuracy > above. He storms through his set, as if afraid that slowing down would be > showing his age, and subsequently steamrollers all of the nuances and > subtleties out that make his music so appealing. > > I think I may be repeating myself here (from my first posting a couple of > months ago), but it's well worth checking out his first solo release, > "Workbook", which -- apart from a couple of hard rockers --- is a > heartbreakingly lovely album, featuring the wondrous, dolorous tones of jane > scarpantoni's cello. His subsequent releases have been much rockier, but he > still has a great way with a tune and a sharp twist with a lyric. > ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #129 **************************