From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V6 #124 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, May 4 2000 Volume 06 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Need a little MP3 help! ["Marcel Rijs" ] Margot Smith ["Marcel Rijs" ] Re: Alisha's Attic [Neile Graham ] Re: Australian Artists [Andrew Fries ] Re: Need a little MP3 help! ["Robert Lovejoy" ] Re: ecto-digest V6 #123 ["Heidi Maier" ] Re: Need a little MP3 help! [jburka@min.net] Re: Need a little MP3 help! [Neile Graham ] RE: Need a little MP3 help! ["Amy" ] Sleeping Dogs wake for sale/trade [anna maria "stjärnell" ] More Peter Carey ["Drew Harrington" ] Re: Velvet Belly question. [Yngve Hauge ] book club & 2 short notes [dmw ] Joy Eden Harrison, Randi Driscoll, and Carlos Olmeda in SD TONIGHT!! [Jas] MPs to CD - Solved! ["Amy" ] Kristeen Young in NYC ["Donald G. Keller" ] Re: book club & 2 short notes [neal copperman ] Re: Australian Artists [neal copperman ] Re: book club & 2 short notes [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 03:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************* Gray Abbott (no Email address) ********************** **************** Tamar Boursalian (teb3@pantheon.yale.edu) **************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:09:38 +0200 From: "Marcel Rijs" Subject: Re: Need a little MP3 help! Hi, Amy wrote: > I am attempting to make a CD from Mp3s I have downloaded (no I am not going > to sell it) :) > And my CD burner says that the files have to be in .wav format. Is there a > way to get around this? You probably need better burning software... :) I use Nero to burn my CD's and it can handle MP3's as well as VQF's to burn audio CD's. If you like, you can try downloading the program at http://www.ahead.de , and you can use it for free for some time. I am pretty sure you'll want to buy it then, because this program is really *wonderful*: simply select burning an audio CD, then drag the MP3's of your choice to the window and you can start burning! I think it's got some kind of internal file converter. A cheaper alternative can be downloading an MP3 to WAV converter, but that will also involve having to convert your MP3's everytime you want to burn them. That may be timeconsuming.... I hate having to wait for my PC to finish a given task! :) I hope this helps. Kind regards, Marcel Rijs Koninklijke Bibliotheek afd. Voorlichting ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:39:55 +0200 From: "Marcel Rijs" Subject: Margot Smith Hi all, Just been listening to Margot Smith's excellent two CD's and I was wondering if there is any current news about her. Her website hasn't been updated since last year and I am hoping for some new material again. Also, does anyone know how to get hold of the CDsingles from "Sleeping with the lion"? I think they must be very hard to find, but I just don't know. Alternatively, I'd be very grateful indeed for MP3's of the non-album material on these CDsingles.... Kind regards, Marcel Rijs Koninklijke Bibliotheek afd. Voorlichting ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 00:49:59 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Alisha's Attic At 9:53 PM -0700 5/2/00, Ricardo wrote: >Have there been any new recordings by this woman group that had an >impressive first album? They had a second album, Illumina, in 1998, but that's all I know. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:31:10 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Australian Artists On Wed, 3 May 2000, jonty wrote: >now speaking of australian artists.. > >did anyone ever listen to much Falling Joys, i had an old tape once of aerial That was by far their best record - IMHO, naturally. Sadly it was their last, too (not counting a rather average EP that followed) And it is, naturally, out of print so Neal don't get your hopes up too high. >does anyone know what she is doing now? i think her name is Suzie Higgie??? yes, Suzie Higgie. I believe nowadays she works as a producer or some such. Though a year or two ago she released a minor masterpiece, "Soon Will Be Tomorrow", with Conway Savage from Bad Seeds. It was an interesting combination; the Nick Cave-like sound and her vocals, but it worked. If I remember correctly that record got some sort of distribution in the US, and I still see it now and then in the shops in Sydney. It's worth getting, I think. Oh, one more tidbit about Falling Joys: only a couple of weeks ago they staged a one-off reunion, as a part of a benefit concert of some sort... sorry I'm a bit vague, but in any case that's in the past already. I missed them that time but now I remain hopeful they'll do it again. - ------------------------------------------------------ "If we took a random sampling of observers of the same sunset, chances are a few would think the sun got larger, a few would insist it stayed the same size, and an appallingly large number would have been looking in the wrong direction." -- Dr. Science - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 07:35:30 -0400 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Re: Need a little MP3 help! > And my CD burner says that the files have to be in .wav format. Is there a > way to get around this? Amy, Tell the software you're burning data, not audio, and then it shouldn't care about the extension. Bob L.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 21:53:00 +1000 From: "Heidi Maier" Subject: Re: ecto-digest V6 #123 Adam wrote: > Speaking of reading, this is something I've meant to ask: is there such > thing as an ecto book list? While my listening habits embrace a large > number of female singer-songwriters, my reading habits are largely male. > About the only woman I read regularly is Ann Tyler, whose work I really > like. Any suggestions? I'd just be interested to see what you all have to > say. This is a sorely tempting question for somebody such as myself (ie: a complete and utter book whore, as my brother affectionately calls me!) ;) I shall limit myself to one suggestion for now (and trust me, given that I have literally hundreds of books, I'm exercising great self control! ) -- Jeanette Winterson. Other names which spring to mind immediately (as far as novelists go) are Elizabeth Jolley, Drusilla Modjeska, Angela Carter, Christina Stead and Emma Donoghue. And there are more, kids ... I won't even begin including the authors of some of my favourite classical works! ArtfulMdrr@aol.com wrote: > Well, not just because of Room of One's Own, but I would love to see Virginia > Woolf up on that list - whenever it happens to exist. I agree wholeheartedly. Woolf is one of my very favourite writers ... she is truly brilliant. Neal wrote: > If you are a Woolf fan, you should definitely read The Hours by Michael > Cunningham. One of my favorite books last year. Beautiful, powerful and > intricate. Read (or re-read) Mrs. Dalloway first though. Indeed. I have read and re-read "The Hours" and it is, as you say, beautiful, power and intricate. Cunningham did a superb job ... it wove its way deeply into my psyche, that novel. Warmest wishes, Heidi. - ------ "i want so much to write well, though i know i don't ... but during and at the end of my life, i will adore those who have." -- *dorothy parker* * heidi maier - maier@joynet.com.au * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: jburka@min.net Subject: Re: Need a little MP3 help! Bob sez: > > And my CD burner says that the files have to be in .wav format. Is there a > > way to get around this? > > Tell the software you're burning data, not audio, and then it shouldn't > care about the extension. This will only work if you're looking to make a CD of MP3s. If you want a CD you can play in audio CD players, you need to burn audio files onto the disc. I've seen a few responses on this, the most helpful so far probably being the one about Nero, which looks like a fun toy and which I imagine I'd probably buy if I ever get myself a CD-R(W) But the simplest answer for Amy is that she probably already has the software kicking around her harddrive. A wav file is just that -- a representation of the analog wave. In order to play an mp3, the compressed stream must be converted to a wav (or aiff on mac) for the soundcard to have something to play, which is to say that all mp3 players have to convert the mpeg file into a sound format that the soundcard can do something with. So where am I going with all this? winamp, in its default configuration, has an option to output the sound it's picking up out of the mp3 into a wav file. Right click on the winamp window, go to Options, then pick Output from the tree on the left. Change from the nullsoft wavOut plug-in to the nullsoft DiskWriter plug-in. Configure your output directory, and you're good to go. jeff n.p. _Hounds of Love_, Kate Bush n.r. _Last of the Just_, Andre Schwarz-Bart (apropos of the recent thread; it's been ages since I included a nr...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 07:09:30 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Need a little MP3 help! At 7:35 AM -0400 5/3/00, Robert Lovejoy wrote: >> And my CD burner says that the files have to be in .wav format. Is there >a >> way to get around this? > >Amy, > Tell the software you're burning data, not audio, and then it shouldn't >care about the extension. > >Bob L.. Just a warning--we tried this and created a coaster. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:03:24 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: RE: Need a little MP3 help! Hi there, Thanks so much for all your responses! I know you would know how to do this. :) I will experiment with a few things. I downloaded something called MPEG Suite and it seems to be able to turn the MP3s into .wavs but I just have to make sure they'll play on a regular CD player. I'll look into Nero as well. Thanks so much!! ~Amy Women In Music http://www.ecalos.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 07:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Sleeping Dogs wake for sale/trade Hi.. Got a disc by Sleeping Dogs wake for sale/trade..It*s called Threnody. Diamandaish vocals and industrial backing. contact me if interested. Anna Maria __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 10:33:44 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Need a little MP3 help! the one important thing that i didn't see in this thread was that the wav/aiff file must be in 16bit, 44.1Khz, stereo format. not all mp3's are encoded in such a way that winamp will decode them thus. software like cooledit (www.syntrillium.com) (the official audio software of the pathetic caverns) will let you interpolate from one sample rate to another (although this inevitably introduces noise and degrades the signal). as far as i know, wav and aiff differ only in their header info. but in order to get a cd you can play in any ol' cd player, you need to make sure you're burning in CDDA format -- this is usually a separate option in the cd burning software. a data disc with a bunch of wav files on it is just that. - -- d. On Tue, 2 May 2000, Amy wrote: > Hi there! > I am attempting to make a CD from Mp3s I have downloaded (no I am not going > to sell it) :) > And my CD burner says that the files have to be in .wav format. Is there a > way to get around this? > > I figured you guys would know if anyone would! > Thanks for any help you can give me! > > ~Amy > Women In Music > http://www.ecalos.com > - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:56:49 -0700 From: "Drew Harrington" Subject: More Peter Carey > From: "Adam Kimmel" > Some time ago I ended up reading an Aussie version of Carey's > short stories, called "War Crimes". I'm not a short story > fan, but these were stunning, the kind of stories that, after > each one, make you sit back and go "Whoah!". I hate to throw in a simple me too, but... oh well... I discovered Peter Carey while in Australia on a contract a decade ago. (God, has it been that long?) I had just finished the last Vonnegut novel I hadn't read and was feeling a little depressed about it. One of the first things I read was a collection of short stories called "Exotic Pleasures" which included the story "War Crimes". I assume it included many of the same stories. Normally, I'm not fond of short stories, but it was absolutely amazing. His stuff is very Vonnegut-ish, but I think more so in his earlier work than his later work. Now that I've exhausted the Peter Carey novels, has anyone got any other Carey-ish / Vonnegut-ish suggestions? Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:48:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Velvet Belly question. On Tue, 2 May 2000, Adam Kimmel wrote: > Was Velvet Belly's "Easy" ever used in a UK ad or tv theme tune? It >sounds vaguely familiar... I did forward your question to the VB list, and the song hasn't been used in a commercial in UK, but it has been used in a furniture one in Sweden 3 years ago. The other source for this song is the game Blackout, but because of the company making it the game was taken over the plans to release it in England and France were put on ice. It was only released in Scandinavia. - -- Yngve n.p. Velvet Belly - The Landing and Lucia (not at once but they are in the CD changer) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:36:05 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: book club & 2 short notes book club: sounds like a fun idea. maybe everyone who wants to be in could nominate 5 or 10 books, and we could devise some sort of psuedo-random exclusive selection system. or we could just read _the bone people_ over and over. tracy bonham and jill sobule both have new records out (_down here_ and _pink pearl_ resepctively). i was sort of waiting to see if someone mentioned 'em here, but then, well, i got paid, so i took a flyer (i also heard a cut from sobule's record over the closing credits to one of those blasted wbtv shows i can't kick) and quite liked it. after one listen apiece, they both seem pretty good. both have production touches that are mildly annoying (in bonham's case, whatever you call the drum sound that so many mainstream records have these days -- i want to say that it sounds vaguely industrial, but in a defanged sort of way; in sobule's case there was a tendency toward the overly cute - the flute was a bit much). both had a couple real stand out songs, though, instant mix tape consideration fodder: bonham's "jumping bean" was quite nice; sobule's "heroes" is now my favorite name-checking song since amy rigby's sadly unrecorded "faulkner's maalox." (i like it better than "whats yr take on cassavettes") - -- d. np bald rapunzel _diazepam_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:01:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Vierling Subject: Joy Eden Harrison, Randi Driscoll, and Carlos Olmeda in SD TONIGHT!! Just a quick heads up for those of us in Southern California, Joy Eden Harrison, Randi Driscoll, and Carlos Olmeda are playing a show in benefit for the EveryDay Angels Foundation tonight (Wednesday May 3rd). The show is at Java Joes in San Diego and should start around 8:30pm. This show is Joy's first SD performance since moving back and likely there will be a few "friends" of hers dropping by to lend a "hand" :) It figures to be a great show.If anyone wants to meet up before the show...we can normally be found at THEOS pizza a block up from the old Java Joes on Newport. Recap: Joy Eden Harrison, Randi Driscoll, Carlos Olmeda Where: Java Joes 1956 Bacon Street San Diego, CA 92107 Tel.: 619-523-0356 When: TONIGHT At 830 pm Cover: a suggested donation to the EDA Foundation This is going to be a killer show!!! Hope to meet up with you all sometime soon! Take Care, Jason V __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 11:12:36 -0500 From: "Amy" Subject: MPs to CD - Solved! Hi I wanted to thank all of you so much for helping me make the CD. Here's what I did, in case anyone is interested... I already had WinAmp so I followed the directions that Amato gave me (which was to use WinAmp to convert to .wav files). They copied really fast. There were 19 songs and it took about 5 minutes. Then I just used my CD burner software to put it on disc (using Audio, not Data). So far it sounds great! And it works on a regular ol' cd player. Thanks again for all your help! ~Amy Women In Music http://www.ecalos.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:40:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: Kristeen Young in NYC I had meant to mention in any case, for the benefit of people in (or within hailing distance of) New York that Kristeen Young's "assaultive dementia" (as Glenn Macdonald recently put it) will be on display every Thursday in May (5/4, 5/11, 5/18, 5/25) at CBs Gallery (where she has done some of her best shows) at 10 p.m. To which I'll add the following squib from this week's =Village Voice=: "KRISTEEN YOUNG There's guts in everything this 'Enemy' does, and though one has to mention tinges of Bjork's eclectic edges, Tori's hearty high notes, and Alanis's live-and-let-loose rock, there's an underall outstanding oomph executed by the gut-tumbling drumbeats of this raw 'little Indian''s all boy ensemble." [bylined Pearse] Maybe a bit overwritten (and do I detect a bit of sexist condescension?), but it's nice to see someone who obviously knows and likes her work. And I think this is the first local-NYC press she's gotten. This issue of the =Village Voice= (5/9/00) has a (similarly-overwritten) very positive lead review of the new Sleater-Kinney album. Have to get it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:56:17 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: book club & 2 short notes At 4:36 PM -0400 5/3/00, dmw wrote: >book club: > >sounds like a fun idea. maybe everyone who wants to be in could nominate >5 or 10 books, and we could devise some sort of psuedo-random exclusive >selection system. or we could just read _the bone people_ over and over. hmmm, it has been almost two years since I read The Bone People. Could be time to read it again. Nice suggestion doug :) (That's my recommendation to whoever was asking - The Bone People by Keri Hulme. One of my favorite books ever.) neal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:51:37 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Australian Artists At 8:31 PM +1000 5/3/00, Andrew Fries wrote: >On Wed, 3 May 2000, jonty wrote: > >>now speaking of australian artists.. >> >>did anyone ever listen to much Falling Joys, i had an old tape once of aerial > >That was by far their best record - IMHO, naturally. Sadly it was their >last, too (not counting a rather average EP that followed) And it is, >naturally, out of print so Neal don't get your hopes up too high. Hey, I make my list and give it to you guys when I trade. You've come up with some pretty good out of print stuff for me before, and my last trade was for: Stylin' Up - Christine Anu Bitch Epic - Deborah Conway The Arousing - Kerri Simpson (Thanks Amanda!) I don't know about all of them, but I know the last one is out of print. So, if anyone out there sees a copy of Aerial, pick it up for me and let me know. >>does anyone know what she is doing now? i think her name is Suzie Higgie??? > yes, Suzie Higgie. I believe nowadays she works as a producer or some >such. Though a year or two ago she released a minor masterpiece, "Soon >Will Be Tomorrow", with Conway Savage from Bad Seeds. It was an >interesting combination; the Nick Cave-like sound and her vocals, but it >worked. If I remember correctly that record got some sort of distribution >in the US, and I still see it now and then in the shops in Sydney. It's >worth getting, I think. I looked this up on-line, and it's available as an Australian import for around $21. Is it readily available down there? I'm feeling another trade coming on :) neal np: Up Where We Belong - Buffy Sainte-Marie (On my list of things to do... mention the 4 discs I bought at the Gathering of Nations Pow Wow last weekend - this one, Ulali, Heartbeat 2, Mishi Donavan. I also saw Al Gore and a huge collection of secret service agents, but they didn't have any discs. I didn't know BS-M wrote that Officer and a Gentleman song. It sounds soooo different when she sings it.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:31:50 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: book club & 2 short notes At 10:56 PM -0600 5/3/00, neal copperman wrote: >At 4:36 PM -0400 5/3/00, dmw wrote: >>book club: >> >>sounds like a fun idea. maybe everyone who wants to be in could nominate >>5 or 10 books, and we could devise some sort of psuedo-random exclusive >>selection system. or we could just read _the bone people_ over and over. > >hmmm, it has been almost two years since I read The Bone People. Could be >time to read it again. Nice suggestion doug :) (That's my recommendation >to whoever was asking - The Bone People by Keri Hulme. One of my favorite >books ever.) And mine as well. I've probably read it five times already. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V6 #124 **************************