From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #401 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, December 7 1999 Volume 05 : Number 401 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the oracle of ecto [Sue Trowbridge ] Re: cinectoracle [vylette ] Re: *Jill Tracy Jill Tracy Jill Tracy* [Bill Adler ] Practical application [Steve VanDevender ] Re: the oracle of ecto [JavaHo@aol.com] Re:Chocolate Cake [Andrew Fries ] Re: Susan McKeown in December [Bill Adler ] Re: Susan McKeown in December [Neal Copperman ] Re:Chocolate Cake [jjhanson@att.net] Re: Susan McKeown in December [Bill Adler ] Re: Susan McKeown in December [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: ecto-digest V5 #400 [metron@ripco.com] Re: the oracle of ecto ["glenn mcdonald" ] Re: the oracle of ecto [meredith ] Re: the oracle of ecto [Steve VanDevender ] Re: *Jill Tracy Jill Tracy Jill Tracy* [Carolyn Andre ] Announcement: Online Chat With Veda! [meredith ] Re: ack! [meredith ] weird nj [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell)] Re: ack! [Jeffrey Burka ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:11:06 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: the oracle of ecto On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, neal copperman wrote: > Since I'm viewed as a great musical resource at work, people ask me the > oddest questions. And when they stump me, I can always fall back on my > night job as the oracle of ecto. So, great ecto group mind, anyone ever > heard of a heavy metal song that thrashes along for a while and then breaks > into yodeling before thrashing along some more? I know, it's a stretch, > but what the hey.... Is it an instrumental (except for the yodeling part, of course)? If so, it's probably "Hocus Pocus" by Focus. This answer brought to you by my prog-rock-lovin' boyfriend and his SUPERNATURAL FAIRY TALES: THE PROGRESSIVE ROCK ERA box set. (Though the track sounds way more metal than prog to my ears...) > And while we're at it... I saw Being John Malcovich the other day. What a > strange and wonderful movie. Highly recommended. BJM was interesting, but [possible SPOILER] I was really horrified by the part where the John Cusack character threatens his wife with a gun and then binds & gags her and locks her up in a cage for what must have been at least a couple of days. Since it upset me, I can imagine that anyone with an abuse history or a sensitivity to domestic violence issues would likely have an even harder time than I sitting through it. My advice: go see TOY STORY 2 instead! :) What a terrific, joyous, fun film!! Plus there's a beautiful song sung by Sarah McLachlan on the soundtrack. There was a Tori Amos parody on Saturday Night Live last night...I guess she's really arrived into the mainstream now. - --Sue Trowbridge * albany, california trow@slip.net * http://www.interbridge.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 02:50:54 -0500 From: vylette Subject: Re: cinectoracle At 01:34 AM 12/6/99 -0500, neal copperman wrote: >And while we're at it... I saw Being John Malcovich the other day. >What a strange and wonderful movie. Highly recommended. Plus, it was definitely weird but what was weirder to me was that not too long after i saw it i realized it wasn't that weird at all in a way because weird stuff happens (i think this is a sortof spoiler, sorry) but in the end it's not too hard to understand how the characters feel and why they did their things. not to say that the stuff that happens is not weird because it is, but the characters were a lot less weird than in say _the_house_of_ _yes_ which i have been thinking about a lot because of a lately hat. and it's just not true about me and blondes, anyone i think would know that by now! err but did i like it, umm yes and it was Very Good but tho there were some disturbing parts that someone else already said. > ... > >But what I really want to know is this .... > >SPOILERS below > >There is a scene where John Malcovich gets to experience going into his own >head, and what he finds is a world populated completely with John >Malcovich's, where all language has been reduced to the word Malcovich. As >soon as this happened, I had this overwhelming feeling that I had come >across this idea somewhere before. It was totally familiar. I felt like >it was a short story that I'd read, but I can't place it at all. i think the thing you're thinking of is "Pikachu's Goodbye", the Pokemon episode where they find a whole wild group of Pikachus, it's just like that scene because everybody is a Pikachu and they all say "pikachu!" too. ok maybe that's not what you're thinking of. i actually liked _Dogma_ even more than _Being..._ and not just because of Alanis although she was definitely part of it but i still couldn't help thinking that there needs to be the veronica's cut and i would have Tori! do the part of God and i think she would have done that soooo well, well with her hair back to Red anyway but if i was the director i could do that. poof! still i really liked it how it was and the casting was really really good if not brilliant at times and it just goes to show you that the weirdest stuff can happen in new jersey. -v p.s. Andrew - thank you i will check out the Bird :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 08:22:39 -0500 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: *Jill Tracy Jill Tracy Jill Tracy* I'm nearly convinced. (What a review!) Is there anywhere on the Net I can hear a sample or two of Jill Tracy's music before taking the plunge? - --Bill At 09:38 PM 12/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >Y'all... > Um Jill Tracy is the queen of the universe. The >CDs arrived yesterday morning and I have listened to >nothing else, LITERALLY... my GOD... I already have a >new member of my pantheon, and she's about to kick a >few folks out of the way and claim a seat near the top >of the hierarchy... her solo-piano-and-voice album >_quintessentially unreal_ is ABSOLULTELY INCREDIBLE... >this woman plays so beautifully, it's so inspiring to >see somebody kicking ass at the style I'm trying so >hard to get right... Lordy... and the second album, >_diabolical streak_ is just *so* evocative of mood, >it's so perfectly produced, and the art direction and >all of it... and Jill had a major hand in the >production, she and an engineer did all of the sound, >and she did all of the art direction herself... it's >neat, the first album is almost confessional in its >lyrical tone, whereas the second one is much more >playful and concerned with storytelling... but they're >both so amazing... the way she downplayed her piano >playing on the second album in comparison with the >first is also shockingly good, in that the second >album's work is still ridiculsouly evocative, but >still very much on the DL in contrast to the >absolutely mathematics-complex lines on the first >one... yes, I'm gushing... but anyhow... she's the >queen of the universe. Bill Adler Adler & Robin Books www.adlerbooks.com/celticmusic.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:36:35 EST From: Damniel@aol.com Subject: Re: the oracle of ecto In a message dated 12/5/99 22:37:17 Pacific Standard Time, neal copperman wrote: > anyone ever > heard of a heavy metal song that thrashes along for a while and then breaks > into yodeling before thrashing along some more? I spent a great many years looking for that one, off and on. It is called Hocus Pocus and it is by a group called Focus. Hocus Pocus is a very um . . . high energy piece. Daniel (The 'm' is silent) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:43:55 -0500 From: sae@zeus.cas.suffolk.edu (Acme Instant Dehydrated Boulder Kit) Subject: Jennifer Fergusson Hi There. I may be able to help out a little on this. I heard Jennifer Fergusson for my first time in early 1991. At that time she had 2 albums, and they were not easy to find even in South Africa, but I got a tape of her first one, "Hand around the Heart", which is still timeless. She caused a bit of a stir in the early part of her career, because her songs were fairly political, anti-war, and anti-apartheid. There is no better way to categorize her music than "ecto", in fact. I know that after democracy was introduced in South Africa, she was a member of parliament for a while. Maybe she's still there, I kinda lost track of her years ago. I'd be very curious to hear her other albums. I hope there is a lot to catch up on. - -- Alan Ezust Cambridge, MA USA http://www.brainwashed.com/ezust ezust@brainwashed.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is Music. -- Aldous Huxley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 10:06:16 -0500 From: Chris Sampson Subject: Re: Guitar help Am I the only who assumed _acoustic_ guitar? I've heard good things about the Fender Squier... Maybe the reason I assumed acoustic was that for $100 or so, you probably cannot get an electric _and_ and amplifier... If you're looking for a decent acoustic in the $100 range, I'd say wait the three months and spend more like $400... assuming, of course that your fiancee is the sort who picks something up and stays with it. She _should_ pick it out herself... Despite the fact that they seem identical, guitars all have different feels to them and different sounds as well, though that's got a lot to do with the strings (don't get me started on THAT). I got an excellent Ovation acoustic electric for about $400, but I had an "in"... it normally has a MSRP of $1200 (retail at about %70 of that)... It can get quite expensive. See if you can find a recent issue of Guitar Player magazine (or some other mag for guitar gear... they exist and are sold at Border's). My cousin bought a Guild for about $900... but then my cousin HAS $900 to drop on an impulse buy. Chris Sampson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:21:40 -0800 (PST) From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Practical application Mitchell A. Pravatiner writes: > Happy's song "Wrong Century" would be the ideal signature tune for the > whole Y2K brouhaha. > > Mitch I think "100 Years" has a certain appropriateness. Especially for any computers that might think it's 1900 instead of 2000 on New Year's Day. I'd also like to dedicate "Life on Mars" to the increasingly slim chance that Mars Polar Lander is going to contact Earth. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:33:26 EST From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: the oracle of ecto Neal queries: << So, great ecto group mind, anyone ever heard of a heavy metal song that thrashes along for a while and then breaks into yodeling before thrashing along some more? >> Hocus Pocus was the first thing that came to my mind when I read this. I don't know that heavy metal would be the appropriate description of the musical part, though. It always reminded me more of something Edgar Winter could have done a la "Frankenstein". I guess that would be considered metal by some. Oddly, if I remember the yodeling part correctly, it is either very similar to or a complete knock-off of Bach's Toccata and Fugue...the popular one...D minor? Surely someone more well-versed in classical music than I can identify it. HTH...Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 09:25:52 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re:Chocolate Cake On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, neal copperman wrote: >I checked this out and the link on their page for a store to order their >cd's for the us was dead. I didn't try looking for the store instead, or >attempt to buy discs elsewhere. I think Jeff got one from amazon.com. Oops. That link is dead indeed, as are a few other links on their site, now that I had a closer look. Gaslight records are at www.gaslight.com.au, but somehow I don't like that site. For one thing, it doesn't seem to have a search function! The shop itself is certainly reputable, but I don't think they quite got hold on this on-line thing. In any case they were recently bought by Chaosmusic (www.chaosmusic.com) who are a dedicated on-line retailer and have a fairly complete list of MFTCC disks. Fairly complete meaning the main releases - not the singles, EPs film scores and other rarities. As for the new one, "19 easy pieces", it won't be sold through normal distribution channels, so I guess Chaosmusic might not carry it either. You'll just have to wait until MFTCC get their own website sales set up, or fly over and see them play - because I'm not parting with my copy this itme :) [Neal, I managed to replace my copy of Wendy Rule when I was in Melbourne, but I failed miserably in my attempts to locate any Kerri Simpson. And yes, your stuff arrived while you were away, thanks!] >Also, the web site talks about all sorts of side projects. Given that one >was by the two women (who play cello and violin, if memory serves), I'm >guessing that it was instrumental. Yep it was, a couple of their tracks are included on "19 easy pieces". According to the website, that score can be ordered from them directly. Maybe - I think I'd try to contact them first before sending any money... And then there are a number of Not Drowning, Waving disks, if you're really keen... http://web.access.net.au/anotherpond/ndw.html But all of this is EXTREMELY rare and difficult to find. One other bit of trivia: "19 esy pieces" also contains a track they did with Michelle Shocked: "I'll be alright". - ------------------------------------------------------ "Macintosh for Productivity, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility, and Windows for Solitaire." - - spotted on a t-shirt @ macsurfshop.com - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 17:29:26 -0500 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: Susan McKeown in December I'll be at Susan McKeown's performance tonight. See everyone there! - --Bill At 11:22 PM 11/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >neal copperman sez: > > > Hey, thanks for the heads up Mike! I had not heard about this, and might > > easily have missed it. (IMT does not advertise much.) I verified it > > against their web site (http://imtfolk.org/). Tix are $12 in advance and > > $14 at the door. Exellent string multi-instrumentalist Robin Bullock (of > > Helicon) is playing too. > > > > Anyone else planning on going? > > >Oh well. > >Yeah, okay then, I'll definitely plan on going. I'll see if I can drag >my folks along too... > >jeff Bill Adler Adler & Robin Books www.adlerbooks.com/celticmusic.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:39:52 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Susan McKeown in December I'm not sure what sort of ecto contingent will be there, but be sure to look for me. I'm 5 foot 7, glasses, not-long/not-short kinda scraggly hair. I've inspired at least 5 other people with varying degrees of familiarity with Susan's work to go, which I was pretty proud of. Having a well established local opener helps in the pitch (though not much, as all the people who really like him seem to have bailed). neal np: Guitar Man - Cephas and Wiggens On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Bill Adler wrote: > I'll be at Susan McKeown's performance tonight. See everyone there! > > --Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 22:40:48 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re:Chocolate Cake > > >I checked this out and the link on their page for a store to order their > >cd's for the us was dead. I didn't try looking for the store instead, or > >attempt to buy discs elsewhere. I think Jeff got one from amazon.com. Before people go rushing to buy MFtCC discs from Amazon, yes, I did order it. But after a month they cancelled the order and said they wouldn't be able to obtain it. (Or maybe I just got tired of waiting and cancelled it myself--can't really remember). I did order a MFtCC CD today from CDNow, which was stated as being "in stock". The CD is "Good Luck" and includes a bonus CD. This CD goes for $20.49. They also have Live at the National Theater for $18.49--also quoted as being "in stock". They also list the "Myth of Fingerprints" soundtrack under My Friend the CHocolate Cake--apparently they have a track "Low" on the disc. Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 17:57:48 -0500 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: Susan McKeown in December Neal, I'll look out for you. I'm also 5' 7" and wear glasses. Okay, so we're almost twins. I have a red beard and will be accompanied by a woman, who just happens to be my wife. - --Bill n.p. The Velvet Janes, Opus No. 3 At 05:39 PM 12/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >I'm not sure what sort of ecto contingent will be there, but be sure to >look for me. I'm 5 foot 7, glasses, not-long/not-short kinda scraggly >hair. I've inspired at least 5 other people with varying degrees of >familiarity with Susan's work to go, which I was pretty proud of. Having >a well established local opener helps in the pitch (though not much, as >all the people who really like him seem to have bailed). > >neal > >np: Guitar Man - Cephas and Wiggens > > > >On Mon, 6 Dec 1999, Bill Adler wrote: > > > I'll be at Susan McKeown's performance tonight. See everyone there! > > > > --Bill Bill Adler Adler & Robin Books www.adlerbooks.com/celticmusic.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 18:28:05 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Susan McKeown in December Bill Adler wrote: > > Neal, > > I'll look out for you. I'm also 5' 7" and wear glasses. Okay, so we're > almost twins. I have a red beard and will be accompanied by a woman, who > just happens to be my wife. Heh. My dad and I will be there and he will possibly be accompanied by a woman (who, if she's there, will just happen to be his wife). He's somewhere between 5'7 and 5'8 and has a full beard, but it's white, not red. Neal, I'll have your Kristin Hersh disc with me. jeff (who's very excited that after all these years, he's actually managing to see Susan twice in a ~3 month period...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 18:09:22 -0600 From: metron@ripco.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V5 #400 > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:34:00 -0500 > From: neal copperman > Subject: the oracle of ecto > > Since I'm viewed as a great musical resource at work, people ask me the > oddest questions. And when they stump me, I can always fall back on my > night job as the oracle of ecto. So, great ecto group mind, anyone ever > heard of a heavy metal song that thrashes along for a while and then breaks > into yodeling before thrashing along some more? I know, it's a stretch, > but what the hey.... If yodeling was the only vocal presence on the song, and if a flute was also heard at times, then my guess would be "Hocus Pocus" by the Dutch(?) band Focus. -- Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:41:20 -0500 From: "glenn mcdonald" Subject: Re: the oracle of ecto > Is it an instrumental (except for the yodeling part, of course)? If so, > it's probably "Hocus Pocus" by Focus. Yes, this is undoubtably correct. Ignore what I said. I suffer from a rare brain condition in which the sufferer mistakenly believes that "Hocus Pocus", by Focus, is actually *part* of "Bohemian Rhapsody", by Queen. Medical science, fortunately, is very close to a cure. > BJM was interesting, but [possible SPOILER] I was really horrified by the > part where the John Cusack character threatens his wife with a gun and > then binds & gags her and locks her up in a cage for what must have been > at least a couple of days. Given how surreal and nasty all the character interactions in the film were, I had a hard time imagining that this was intended to be taken as spousal abuse, but if you're sensitive about abusive relationships it's probably not the movie for you, either way. I second Sue's endorsement of Toy Story 2. Or if that's not quite cartoonish enough for you, there's always Dogma. glenn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 21:03:30 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: the oracle of ecto Hi! Sue noted: >There was a Tori Amos parody on Saturday Night Live last night...I guess >she's really arrived into the mainstream now. Oh, my. I considered staying up to watch SNL the other night Just Because, but I was too tired so I just went to sleep. Who was hosting, so I can keep an eye out for the rerun? And what did the parody entail? More importantly, who played Tori? (*Please* tell me it wasn't Cheri Oteri...) I was sleepy because woj and I had just gotten home from New York, where we saw Jane Siberry at the Bottom Line. It was the third of four shows there as she kicked off the American leg of her Solo Pilgrim Tour. I can't think of any way to describe it other than it was a quintessentially Jane evening. She came onstage as a prerecorded multi-track vocal song played on the PA (something about climbing Jacob's ladder), wearing a mink stole and very grandmother's-day-out dress and little glasses, wielding a dustcloth, which she plied on the instruments onstage (organ on one side, piano on the other) and on the microphone in the middle. (woj mentioned later that he thinks it's a real shame that Jane will never be anybody's grandmother, and after seeing that little display I have to concur. :) She played a nice mix of stuff, from "When Last I Was A Fisherman" to a few old-world traditional tunes (from Wales, Scotland, and Newfoundland), to the surprise of the evening, a lovely rendition of "The Empty City". The set ended with a rousing version of "Begat Begat (Spring is coming)" interspersed with "River of Life" (they're practically the same song anyway), and for an encore she came back and did "Calling All Angels", which ended with the entire audience singing along, and that wasn't cheezy at all, because it happened spontaneously and everyone was actually singing well. :) The show was well worth sitting squashed in the corner waaaaay off to the side of the stage right on the other side of the wall where the waitrons dump the empty bottles as they fly in and out of the kitchen (note to self: never, EVER get to the Bottom Line less than an hour before showtime when Jane Siberry is on the bill - it's not for the claustrophobic). I was accompanied by a friend who had never seen Jane before, and she thought it was great, too. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:24:36 -0800 (PST) From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Re: the oracle of ecto meredith writes: > Oh, my. I considered staying up to watch SNL the other night Just Because, > but I was too tired so I just went to sleep. Who was hosting, so I can > keep an eye out for the rerun? And what did the parody entail? More > importantly, who played Tori? (*Please* tell me it wasn't Cheri Oteri...) I saw it. Christina Ricci was hosting. It was a parody of "Silent All These Years" and whoever played Tori did a good job of emulating how Tori . . . interacts . . . with her piano bench. Alas, I can't quite remember what the lyrics were about. I enjoyed it. Last night I happened to notice that a local TV station was playing the movie "The Crow", and I remembered that I had heard that Jane Siberry did a song for the closing credits, so I stayed up until the end of the movie to hear it. With classic the-universe-is-out-to-get-me timing, however, the station decided to have its monthly test of the Emergency Broadcasting System just after the closing credits started. Grrrrrrrr. I did get to hear about the last half of the song. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 22:37:44 -0500 From: meredith Subject: ack! Hi! Okay, my mind is undergoing a series of little explosions right now, and I think it's about to ooze right out my ears. I'm watching Monday Night Football (yeah, yeah) and they just showed a promo provided by the National Football League, which consisted of about 30 seconds of shots of various football players all sporting the number 32 on their jerseys, over which was the chorus "I am beyond your peripheral vision, I am 32 flavors and then some". It was *not* the Alana Davis version. One wonders if Ani is aware of this ... (I heard a couple weeks ago that a similar promo using an Eminem song was pulled, I believe because it surfaced that the proper permissions hadn't been secured, though I might have been hallucinating that part of it.) What really would've topped it off is if they'd showed the Audi commercial featuring Susan McKeown after... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 22:25:31 -0600 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: *Jill Tracy Jill Tracy Jill Tracy* At 08:22 AM 12/6/99 -0500, Bill Adler wrote: >I'm nearly convinced. (What a review!) Is there anywhere on the Net I >can hear a sample or two of Jill Tracy's music before taking the plunge? The links out from Jill's site took some sledgehammer tactics to get to via a "normal" browser window instead of kewl popups without nav bars, but from her site's "music" page, there are links to Wired Planet: http://www.wiredplanet.com/start.html?artist=454 (needed Shockwave 7/flash plug-in for windows....) and Red Button: http://www.redbutton.com/wishlist.cgi which has clips from Extraordinary and Evil Night Together in Liquid format, & Evil Night in MP3 Regards, Carolyn Andre - ------------------------- candre@house-of-music.com Support Independent Music! Use the Internet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 23:30:11 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: ack! and lo, jeffy did have two responses for meth... a) The Tori impersonation on SNL was by...er...Ana Gasteyer, I think. The bit was a rather extended commercial for a show of chanukah songs "by artists who are managed by jews." The Tori bit was priceless -- she never actually touched the piano bench, but was mostly just thrusting herself around whilst singing "Kosher All These Years." As has been pointed out, the host was Christina Ricci. Also priceless was her impersonation of Brittany Spears, along with the usual Mariah Carey and Celine Dion impersonations. b) meth sez: > What really would've topped it off is if they'd showed the Audi > commercial featuring Susan McKeown after... funny that you should mention that, as Susan and I were just talking about that commercial two hours ago. She still hasn't seen it yet, but admitted that she'd just recorded vox for another commercial (she didn't say which one, so I guess in a month or two there will be another spate of, "I just saw a commercial and could have sworn I heard Susan McKeown's voice" postings) Okay. But here's the Million Dollar Question for you Meredith: Susan played "In London So Fair" and afterward she and Neal and I were talking about this, and I made some comment about KaTe's version...and Susan had no idea what I was talking about. How is it that, knowing you and woj and miscellaneous other ectophiles, it's possible that Susan has never heard "The Handsome Cabin Boy?" Anyway. 'Twas a great show tonight, featuring several "brand new" traditional bits which will be on the upcoming acoustic album, as well as some faves from various places. No way I'll remember everything, but some of the highlights were "Seven Cold Glories," "Because I Would Not Stop For Death," "Through the Bitter Frost and Snow," "The Rivers of Ireland," and a real highlight for me, "Salome." A fabulous evening. And it was nice to get a chance to actually talk to Susan, who was quite gracious and charming. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 23:34:25 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Announcement: Online Chat With Veda! Hi! I'm pleased to announce: ONLINE CHAT WITH VEDA HILLE Monday, December 13, 1999 4 pm Pacific time (7 pm Eastern) I'm leaning toward setting up a room for this at Yahoo!, like I did the last time. (If anyone has any other suggestions, please get back to me ASAP.) I'll post a follow-up message later on this week confirming the exact location and instructions for joining the chat. Meanwhile, mark those calendars and set those reminders! Veda's looking forward to having another opportunity to interact real-time with her fan-type folk. The last chat we did was a lot of fun, so I hope to see you all there! +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 23:40:45 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: ack! Hi! >and lo, jeffy did have two responses for meth... Thanks Jeffy! :) >a) The Tori impersonation on SNL was by...er...Ana Gasteyer, I think. >The bit was a rather extended commercial for a show of chanukah >songs "by artists who are managed by jews." The Tori bit was >priceless -- she never actually touched the piano bench, but was >mostly just thrusting herself around whilst singing "Kosher All >These Years." Oh, I have GOT to see this when it reruns. Christina Ricci hosting. Check. >Okay. But here's the Million Dollar Question for you Meredith: > >Susan played "In London So Fair" and afterward she and Neal and >I were talking about this, and I made some comment about KaTe's >version...and Susan had no idea what I was talking about. > >How is it that, knowing you and woj and miscellaneous other ectophiles, >it's possible that Susan has never heard "The Handsome Cabin Boy?" Um, maybe because I never connected the two songs until just this moment? :} I don't think we've ever discussed KaTe with her, actually - which is pretty odd now that I think about it. Hm. >'Twas a great show tonight, featuring several "brand new" traditional >bits which will be on the upcoming acoustic album, as well as some >faves from various places. Did she say when that album is due out? >No way I'll remember everything, but >some of the highlights were "Seven Cold Glories," "Because I >Would Not Stop For Death," "Through the Bitter Frost and Snow," >"The Rivers of Ireland," and a real highlight for me, "Salome." Oooo! Who was with her - Jon Spurney? Anyone else? "The Rivers of Ireland" *needs* to be released as a single here. It'd make her the household name she so deserves to be. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 23:45:37 -0500 (EST) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: weird nj vylette wrote: it just goes to show you that the weirdest stuff can happen in new jersey. oh show me where, PLEASE!! i am about to return home to nj and i would LOVE to know where the wild and weird stuff happens. i have been bored there all my life. but hopefully i will get a chance to meet some more east coast ectophiles now. actually, there is a magazine called weird nj. or a book or something. maybe i should check that out. JoAnn lp: Heather Duby just came today. not as brilliant as i expected, but hell, that was just a first listen, and there was a really lovely song somewhere that didn't have the trip-hop effects, but i don't remember which track it was. anyway, i definitely sensed growing potential. ************* When you find a bend in the road, go straight When the sign points 'one way', deviate On the path to salvation The world is your creation Saying 'Yes' to you, saying 'Yes' to me -Vanessa Daou "Deviate" *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 00:34:55 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: ack! meredith asks: > >How is it that, knowing you and woj and miscellaneous other ectophiles, > >it's possible that Susan has never heard "The Handsome Cabin Boy?" > > Um, maybe because I never connected the two songs until just this moment? Really? I could have sworn that comparison came up in discussion here when Bushes & Briars was released. > I don't think we've ever discussed KaTe with her, actually - which is > pretty odd now that I think about it. Hm. I happened to be wearing one of the old "suspended in rec.music.gaffa" t-shirts and Susan made some slight mention of it. > Did she say when that album is due out? Errr...early next year? Several months before Bones II, apparently. (yes, she's started working on, or at least thinking about working on, a second Chanting House album. From the sound of it, there's a slim chance it could be out by next September, but it sounds very slim). I think the acoustic album will be out by spring, but maybe Neal or Bill Adler remembers something more detailed. She's shopping for Yet Another Label...why risk using the same label for a second album? > Oooo! Who was with her - Jon Spurney? Anyone else? Nope, John wasn't there. It was just Susan and Greg Anderson (who played guitar and cittern on _Bushes & Briars_). Frankly, I think I preferred John's playing at ectofest. > "The Rivers of Ireland" *needs* to be released as a single here. It'd > make her the household name she so deserves to be. I seem to remember you making that same comment in September. Actually, what was really wonderful about it was her introduction. She talked about how the song had been commissioned, but with the new peace agreement, she hoped it could become an "old song," one which reminded people of a time when hope was needed and of what had been accomplished. The venue was a smallish unitarian church in the middle of the woods out in Prince Georges county. The acoustics were fabulous, and the audience incredibly quiet and attentive. The only odd bit was that Susan was actually opening for Robin Bullock (whose set I enjoyed, but well, I didn't really need an encore....) and after Susan finished, an old man in the row in front of my dad and me turned to the woman (wife? daughter? friend?) sitting next to him and said, "Now we can get to the good stuff." Yeesh. jeff ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #401 **************************