From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #399 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, December 5 1999 Volume 05 : Number 399 Today's Subjects: ----------------- getting it (was Re: ) [vyris of rainbows ] [Fwd: Guitar help] [Bill Mazur ] Re: Desperately seeking B&BS ["Bill" ] Re: tori at the jingle bell jam ["cjmacs" ] Re: Amazon's Indy sales ["Jeffrey Hanson" ] Re: getting it (was Re: ) [John Drummond ] the mollys in the northeast [rebel without a clause ] Re: Guitar help [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Amazon's Indy sales [Songbird22@aol.com] Re: getting it (was Re: ) [Joseph Zitt ] Re: [Fwd: Guitar help] [Joseph Zitt ] Fwd: Philadelphia Songwriter event next week [Joseph Zitt ] Re: velvet under errr belly [Neile Graham ] worldbeat [Leon van Stuivenberg ] Re: Earbuzz profit model? [Songbird22@aol.com] Re: Betty [neal copperman ] Re: Earbuzz profit model? [Cat Eldridge ] Re: the mollys in the northeast - Passim 12/5 [Ofer Inbar ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 02:46:23 -0500 From: vyris of rainbows Subject: getting it (was Re: ) At 12:29 AM 12/4/99 -0500, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: >well... > >you know how sometimes you listen to an album, and it doesn't really grab >you, or maybe it even annoys you, and you think, well, there are parts, >moments of this i like, but eh, back it goes on the shelf, and then some >time later, you go back and listen to it, and it's like there's some >amazing revelation and the light bulb of musical taste goes beserk, because >it's like where did this come from, and if this was so good, how come i >didn't realize it last time, and i am soo glad i realize it now. > >you know??? oh i do do do! and a funnier thing too is that the more encompassing the getting-it is, the more of a memory it leaves, and i remember it for a longlonglong time after. i guess it's because i'm too young to remember where i was when JFK was shot and it seems like a person needs to have impactfully (is that a word?) memorable experiences and somehow mine end up being times i got-it, musically, metanoically. the bad part is that the stories stick in my head so much i tell them over and over... like i remember when i got _dummy_ by Portishead it made noooooooo sense to me at all all all and sat in a drawer for awhile until the light-in-dark blessing of some lov-ick-ely depression and suddenly it was all so clear and the album even seemed cheerful, somehow, in an under-the-bottom sort of way. it's like, can you be so depressed you're happy? it may seem weird but all the way up *is* all the way down. and that's how i found techno, i liked it ok and listened to it but never really Got It until there was was one cold and buzzy morning and way too much chocolate and waaay too much soda and the strobe lights went on and suddenly, you know how sometimes everything turns sideways, just a bit, like at an angle, but it *all* turns, so it all still looks straight but you *know* it's not? i mean behind? well that happend and behind the veil was the beauty and the beat that is techno and i was forever changed... again. after that it all made SO much sense and i could just taste the e and smell the vicks in most anything over 140bpm and it was wonderful, it was ecstacy. so what i wonder, wonderingly, is am i the only one? do other people sometimes suddenly sit up like they were hit with ice water, as they Get It? and does it make you too into a prosyletic tiresome bore at parties (well not me so much anymore, but) because you know how great it is to get-it and you want to share? ok i think now i need to get-it some sleep. :) -veronica n.p. the hope blister (earlier) n.r. survivial of the prettiest (literus interruptis) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 02:00:12 -0800 From: Bill Mazur Subject: [Fwd: Guitar help] I forgot to c.c. you folks on my response to Dan Bill Mazur wrote: > Dan Knoff wrote: > > > Hey, all you guitar players out there. My fiancé is really interested in > > getting a guitar. I was looking for suggestions on what I should be looking > > for. Would it be best for her to pick one out? It seems to me that it > > would be a personal thing, and she should pick it out. Would we be able to > > find a decent one for around $100, or should we wait a bit and spend more? > > We'll be much better off financially in about three months. > > > > Anyway, send in your suggestions. I'm waiting.... > > > > Love and Peace, > > Dan > > > > Thanks! > > Dan, > > I believe that choosing a guitar for oneself is a very personal thing. It should > feel comfortable to play and should sound good to the individual. > > There are a number of ways to go about finding a guitar that suits the > individual's tastes and budget. You can go new or used. If you decide to go used > try looking at ads in the local Recycler type of community papers for people who > might be selling a nice guitar for a decent price. People who place ads in the > local community papers sometimes are sacrificing a good instrument because they > need the money. You can pick up bargains that way. You can also check out pawn > shops. You can sometimes find really good bargains there. All of this can be > time quite consuming though. Also, unless you know what you are looking for you > could get ripped off. You need someone who knows quality vintage guitars to spot > a steal. Most pawn shops know what they are doing when pricing an instrument. > > If you want to buy a new guitar go to a local music store and have her try a few > out. If your fiancé plays currently, she will be able to find a guitar that > feels and sounds good to her. If she doesn't currently play and wants to learn, > try and take someone that you both trust who does play along with you. That > person can assist in finding a good guitar for her. Another option to buying a > guitar is to lease one or to rent to buy. This is a good way to go if someone > thinks they want to play an instrument. If they start to play and like it then > they can end up purchasing the instrument. If they don't enjoy playing the > instrument they can return it with only a handful of payments made. A drawback > to this method is that you will pay much more for the instrument then if you > bought it outright. If you do decide to purchase a guitar, it would be prudent > to shop around a little first. > > You didn't indicate whether your fiance wants to play an electric, acoustic or > nylon string/classical guitar. The price of the guitar and the actual quality of > the instrument doesn't always necessarily correlate. However, typically the more > you spend for an instrument the better the quality of the instrument. $100.00 > will not get you very far toward getting a decent quality guitar. I would > suggest that you may want to spend closer to the $200 to $300 range. That will > get you into a lower to medium quality guitar. The better the quality of the > guitar the easier it will be to play and the better it should sound. It is > important for a beginner to have an instrument that is easy to play. It adds to > the learning process and makes things more enjoyable. Each guitar has it's own > charecter and personality. It is important to find one that speaks to you. I > have played some lesser expensive guitars that spoken to me more so that a more > expensive guitar. I hope that I am making some sense here. > > Here are a few suggestions for you as far as new guitars are concerned: > > Electric guitar: > Fender Squire Strat - Discount price is $200.00 > For an amp get a small little 15 watt amp such as a Fender, Danelectro, Crate - > They can run at a discounted price of between $80.00 to $150.00 > > Acoustic Steel String: > Takamine, Yamaha, Fender, Ovation and Ibanez all have fairly nice acoustic > guitars in the discounted range of $150 to $300. I personally like Takamines > quite a bit. > > Nylon String Classical: > I think it's difficult to find a good classical guitar for less than $400. You > can look at Takamine, Yamaha, Cordoba. > > I hope that this information helps you out in your quest. > > Peace to you as well! :-) > > Bill M. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 02:01:18 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: Desperately seeking B&BS I went into the A&B Sound site looking for the Rebecca Timmons CD and, lo and behold, they now also list the Morcheeba double CD, allegedly in stock, so I have ordered it (new for about $17 US). And now, the wait begins... - - Bill G. np: Morcheeba: BIG CALM nr: Isabel Allende: La casa de los espiritus On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:39:35 -0800, Bill wrote: > >Ectopeoples: > >I am in need of a copy of Morcheeba's double CD "Who Can You Trust Plus >Beats And B-Sides" (not to be confused with the single-disc "Who Can >You Trust"). I have looked long and hard for this issue to no avail. > >If anyone has this double CD in good condition and would like to trade >or sell it, I would be very interested in knowing. > >Or if anyone sees it on a bin, new, or used in good condition, BUY IT! >I will reimburse your cost, and then some. > >Thanks. > >- Bill G. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 07:53:41 -0500 From: "cjmacs" Subject: Re: tori at the jingle bell jam meth wrote: > Chuck, where the hell were you?! i was watching from the wings..... ;-) chuck ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 19:18:58 -0700 From: "Jeffrey Hanson" Subject: Re: Amazon's Indy sales >Scott says: > >> yeah, a retailer that sells a cd is usually keeping 40% MAX (before >> postage). 60% goes back to the distributor/label/artist or whatever the >> store's source is for the cd. For most of the items on >> amazon.com, they're keeping like 1% to 20% -- 80% to 99% of the price is >> what they're being charged by the distributor. The one exception is the >> CDs they take direct from small artists and small labels, where the >> markups go a little crazy! > Jessica writes: >Actually one of the sites that sells my CD--Earbuzz.com--an awesome company >starting up with a very cool person/musician in charge gives the artist 100% >of what they sell the CD for. Very cool and unusual... :) > Sounds great--but how does Earbuzz make their money? Advertising? I can't see it being very profitable. Either that, or I'd hate to see their shipping rates. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:09:46 -0800 (PST) From: John Drummond Subject: Re: getting it (was Re: ) > so what i wonder, wonderingly, is am i the only one? > do other people sometimes suddenly sit up like they > were hit with ice water, as they Get It? Most definitely you're not the only one, I'm so exactly the same way... right now I'm in a state of Katell Keineg-inspired mania, and I'm hollerin' at all of my friends and everybody else about the Wonders O Katell... John n.p. Jill Tracy _quintessentially unreal_ (THEY FINALLY ARRIVED PRAISE THE CHOCOLATE JESUS) ===== "However, for all you S&M fans out there, fill your jodhpurs with whatever tickles your fancy, xoxo." - - Kym Brown __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 13:24:25 -0500 From: rebel without a clause Subject: the mollys in the northeast all ye olde connecticut ectophiles, the mollys will be playing at the buttonwood tree in middletown on wednesday, december 8th. they bill themselves as celtic tex-mex, but what i've heard is more of the latter than the former. in any event, they are decent and a lot of fun. alas, kristeen young is playing in mew york the same night, so i don't know if i'll be going or not... buttonwood info at their website: . hmmm, after browsing the mollys website , looks like the mollys are going to be around the northeast for the next week or two: 12/4 NY Pawling The Towne Crier 12/5 MA Cambridge Club Passim 7:30 pm 12/6 NY New York City The Rodeo Bar 12/8 CT Middletown The Buttonwood Tree 605 Main St. 8 pm 12/9 PA Bethlehem Godfrey Daniels 7 E. 4th St. 8 pm 12/10 MD Silver Spring Paddy Mac's 8241 Georgia Ave 9:30 pm 12/11 MD Baltimore Root's Cafe@St. John's Methodist Church 27th & St. Paul 9:30 pm yeehaw! woj n.p. nothing! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:23:31 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Guitar help On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 12:49:22AM -0600, Dan Knoff wrote: > Hey, all you guitar players out there. My fiancé is really interested in > getting a guitar. I was looking for suggestions on what I should be looking > for. Would it be best for her to pick one out? It seems to me that it > would be a personal thing, and she should pick it out. Would we be able to > find a decent one for around $100, or should we wait a bit and spend more? > We'll be much better off financially in about three months. While I'm not a serious guitar player (though I'll be putting out a DAM label CD of mostly guitar music I did in the 80s as soon as the cover artist is done)... I'm quite happy with my Fender Squire, which cost somewhere between $100-$150. Quite reasonable tone, workmanship, solidity, playability. If your in the "getting a guitar" stage, as opposed to "needs a guitar for super-fi work", I'd recommend it highly. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 13:48:48 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: Amazon's Indy sales Jeff asked: > Sounds great--but how does Earbuzz make their money? Advertising? > I can't see it being very profitable. Either that, or I'd hate to see their > shipping rates. I'm not totally sure, actually, but their shipping rates are reasonable. I know that they are going to sell band merchandise for bands and stuff, make Earbuzz.com items, etc., but I'm not sure how else they'll profit. I can ask, though, I know the owner fairly well. :) It's very cool too because they review all the CDs (thoughtful, insightful reviews too!), create a website, do soundclips, etc. And they set it up for free. As much as I like CD Baby.com, I didn't want to sell my second CD through them b/c they were going to charge me $30 to set everything up, after I already paid that for my first CD. Also, they don't write reviews of the CD (though others can submit reviews) and you get a lot less money for selling there... Same with amazon.com... Jessica www.aquezada.com/jess ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:39:58 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: getting it (was Re: ) On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 02:46:23AM -0500, vyris of rainbows wrote: > so what i wonder, wonderingly, is am i the only one? do > other people sometimes suddenly sit up like they were > hit with ice water, as they Get It? and does it make you > too into a prosyletic tiresome bore at parties (well not > me so much anymore, but) because you know how great it > is to get-it and you want to share? I was that way with jazz. Through most of college, I absolutely *hated* it, partially for political reasons (the jazz and electronic/ethnic music factions at the school were pitted against one another), and partially because I didn't understand how it worked -- it seemed to me that people were trading off mostly fast-and-loud ego displays. (Partially because much of the jazz I heard was from the undergraduate jazz ensemble where that *was* what was mostly happening.) It took several epiphanies to get over this: - - Listening to Ornette Coleman's track "Beauty is a Rare Thing" (what? I thought... improvised Webern?) - - Hearing James Blood Ulmer's LP "Tales of Captain Black" - - Hearing and working with the amazing (now-departed) Thomas Chapin, who was a student at the same time I was - - Listening to John Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" with the suggestion that I hear it as a minimalist treatment of its core four-note phrase. *boing*! Now, most of what I listen to, when doing serious listening (I mostly listen to pop and rock as background), is jazz and jazz-related "classical" music, and most of the music that I make is highly improvisatory. I still pretty much despair of ever understanding jazz harmony, or being able to play anything with much in the way of chord changes (I still lose my place in a simple blues), but I have more of a feeling of how to listen to it now. n.p. Sonic Youth: SYR 4: Goodbye 20th Century n.r. Rafi Zabor: The Bear Comes Home (Hands down the best novel I've read in years, not that I read many. I describes what goes on in musician's heads while playing better than anything else I've seen.) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:47:05 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: [Fwd: Guitar help] Yow! I bow to your knowledge! BTW, On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 02:00:12AM -0800, Bill Mazur wrote: > For an amp get a small little 15 watt amp such as a Fender, Danelectro, Crate - > They can run at a discounted price of between $80.00 to $150.00 FWIW, I use a small Gorilla amp, in the same price range. Good sound and range, IMHO: I can play through it quietly in my apartment and hear what's happening well, and we've also comfortably played rock clubs, though at non-teeth-rattling levels, through a pair of these turned up to only 4 or 5. On our gig tomorow night, we're hoping to go through the house PA, but will have the Gorillae with us just in case. (I also noticed a King Crimson diary in which Robert Fripp mentioned their guitarists practicing through them, which is good enough for me :-] ) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:55:27 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Fwd: Philadelphia Songwriter event next week This should be a dynamite event for Bazilian/Hyman (The Hooters, Cyndi Lauper, Joan Osborne, Largo, etc) fans and others. Wish I were in Philly for it... - ----- Forwarded message from PWoznicki@aol.com ----- X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 17:53:49 -0800 From: "Holly Drauglis" Subject: Songwriter event next week To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hi Just a reminder about our "Hits and Misses: Songwriters' Stories" event happening next Wednesday, December 8. (Details below) Drop us an email to RSVP or if you have any questions, or call 215-985-5411. Hope to see you soon! Holly Drauglis Project Coordinator Philadelphia Chapter National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences, Inc. HITS AND MISSES: SONGWRITERS STORIES Eric Bazilian, Eve, Rob Hyman, Christine Lavin together on one stage! Songwriters to perform and discuss some of their most successful hits and the ones that didn't make it. WHO: Eve, chart-topping rapper on Ruff Ryder/Interscope Records Christine Lavin, contemporary folk singer-songwriter on Shanachie Records Rob Hyman, GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, co-founder/leader of the Hooters, producer, worked with Cyndi Lauper, Jon Bon Jovi, Taj Mahal, The Band Eric Bazilian, GRAMMY-nominated songwriter, co-founder/leader of the Hooters, producer, worked with Joan Osborne, Willie Nelson, Sophie B. Hawkins, Carly Simon David Dye, host of World Cafe, nationally syndicated radio music show from WXPN WHAT: An evening of acoustic performances and stories from a unique gathering of songwriters, hosted by David Dye. Performers will discuss the how's and why's of their biggest hits, and the songs that didn't take off. Questions will be taken from the audience as well. WHEN: Wednesday, December 8th, 7:00-10:00p.m. WHERE: New Market Cabaret, 415 South 2nd Street, Philadelphia - ----- End forwarded message ----- - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:09:11 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Earbuzz profit model? I deleted the message that raised this question, but looking at their FAQ (which looks good!), I get a clue: How are artists paid? earBuzz will send out artist payments on the second Friday of each month as long as the amount is over $50; otherwise, checks will be processed quarterly on the second Friday of October, January, April, and July. earBuzz.com now gives 100% of the profit from the CD purchase price to the artist! Looks like, as with MP3.com, they work from the money they hold onto for artists, since I suspect that the great majority of artists will rarely hit $50. Probably pouring it into some other investment. But IANAE (I am not an economist). Looks like a good deal -- I'm going to point the other members of my groups at them, since we've been looking for an eCommerce solution for our CDs. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:18:38 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: velvet under errr belly Regarding the bands you guys don't know who are playing with Velvet Belly: I adore Laika! They're definitely one of my favourite electronic rock bands, and have an evocative vocalist, who was once part of Moonshake. They're from the U.K. and we have all their discs. I don't think I've ever described them particularly well, but here's what I said about _Sound of the Satellites_ on my year-end report in 1997: What was it about electronic music this year, anyway? Somehow it just seems to have found its feet for me. Anyway, I've always liked Laika's music, but this album is a delight. Full of strange and catchy songs and lines, it's the kind of music you find yourself humming and trying to remember where it's from. Great electronica. Lovely voices and songcrafting. Not to be confused with the surf rockers, Laika and the Cosmonauts. And here's what I said about Sneaker Pimps' _Becoming X_ the same year (they got lots of airplay here in the U.S.): I loved this when I first heard it, but it didn't stand the test of time with me very well. Still, I spent a large part of 1997 listening to it. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 21:17:30 +0100 From: Leon van Stuivenberg Subject: worldbeat Hi, highlights of this weekend's edition: sting deep forest sarah mclachlan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:19:38 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: Earbuzz profit model? Joseph says: > Looks like, as with MP3.com, they work from the money they hold onto > for artists, since I suspect that the great majority of artists will > rarely hit $50. Probably pouring it into some other investment. But > IANAE (I am not an economist). Yeah, that is most likely how it works. They are good at sending out checks, too, and I made $150 my first month alone from their site... It is a good thing and definitely growing rapidly... ;) Jessica www.aquezada.com/jess | www.mp3.com/jessweiser ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:34:49 -0500 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Betty At 7:51 AM -0500 12/3/99, Michael R. Colford wrote: >I believe we spoke briefly about this at ectofest. Oh damn, I hate it when that happens. Yes, you came over, introduced yourself, and told me all about the new Betty album. I was intrigued, and apparently immediately forgot about it. Let me myself. >The Betty album is >quiet different from all their previous work. It's not a step back >toward their cabaret style, but a move toward heavy guitar rock! Their >trademark harmonies and humor is intact, but the music is quite a bit >different with lots of distorted, electric guitar. And a terrific ditty >called "Naughty Nadia" featuring voice and cello. Thanks for repeating yourself. I think I remember things better when I read them (or at least, that's what I'm claiming at the moment), so maybe this will sink in. I'll have to keep my eyes open for it. neal np: My Bag - Lida Husik nr: The Poisonwood Bible - Lida Husik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:54:21 -0500 From: Cat Eldridge Subject: Re: Earbuzz profit model? >Yeah, that is most likely how it works. They are good at sending out checks, >too, and I made $150 my first month alone from their site... It is a good >thing and definitely growing rapidly... ;) I must admit that I'm puzzled. They're paying the shipping costs _and_ giving the artist 100% of the take? Anybody know how deep their pockets are? -- This is *not* a substainable business model no matter how good it feels to the artist involved. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:16:32 -0500 From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Re: the mollys in the northeast - Passim 12/5 rebel without a clause wrote: > hmmm, after browsing the mollys website , looks like > the mollys are going to be around the northeast for the next week or two: > > 12/4 NY Pawling The Towne Crier > 12/5 MA Cambridge Club Passim 7:30 pm > 12/6 NY New York City The Rodeo Bar > 12/8 CT Middletown The Buttonwood Tree 605 Main St. 8 pm [...] I will be running sound at the Club Passim show this Sunday. The Mollys are one of the most fun bands to do sound for that I've ever worked with. So will I see any ectophiles at the show? -- Cos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:47:23 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Re: Earbuzz profit model? Cat asks: > I must admit that I'm puzzled. They're paying the shipping costs _and_ > giving the artist 100% of the take? Anybody know how deep their pockets > are? -- This is *not* a substainable business model no matter how good it > feels to the artist involved. This all had me puzzled too, so I asked the owner and here is his response. Hope that helps clear things up... - Jessica "sure, the model of indie artists has always been a few sellers like YOU and many who don't move any CDs - the profit portion for an indie business like earBuzz is less profit from CDs than can be achieved from selling advertising to a site - our competitive advantage is the 100% policy, which should land us many more artists as we support them more completely - by contrast - advertising at $25/M will bring in substantial revenue as advertiser go after the eyeballs of artists and music listeners. . the internet era is a pioneering era - those who take chances and forge ahead with "unsubstantial business plans" will be the winners if the dedication of the audience is solid and unabused. .that's where we're at. " ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:42:52 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: Emm, Chantal, Veda, Emily On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, meredith wrote: > It was particularly interesting to read the reviews of Veda and Emily > juxtaposed together, because my dream double-bill would be to see the two > of them on the same stage. (I know at least one other person agrees with > me ... Sue Trowbridge took care of getting Emily a tape of Veda's stuff, > and I gave Veda a tape of Emily's stuff, but to this day I have no clue if > Veda ever listened to it or not. Oh well.) I can attest to the fact that Emily did indeed listen to the Veda tape I made for her (a compilation of my favorite tracks from SPINE and SONGS FOR E. CARR) and that she was really impressed by Veda's talent. Maybe someday that dream double bill will come to pass...it would be a wonderful event!! On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, neal copperman wrote: > np: My Bag - Lida Husik > nr: The Poisonwood Bible - Lida Husik Wow, Lida is an author AND a musician! What a renaissance woman! ;) - --Sue Trowbridge * albany, california trow@slip.net * http://www.interbridge.com np: Anton Barbeau, A SPLENDID TRAY nr: Barbara D'Amato, HELP ME PLEASE ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #399 **************************