From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #379 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, November 15 1999 Volume 05 : Number 379 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ecto holiday music [Runly ] Re: weekend music [silme@ix.netcom.com] Re: Kris Delmhorst [silme@ix.netcom.com] Re: weekend music [meredith ] Re: ecto-tolerable holiday albums [Joseph Zitt ] Re: ecto-tolerable holiday albums [meredith ] Re: Zap Mama, the early albums [Joseph Zitt ] Re: phantasmagoria [Joseph Zitt ] Re: weekend music [Michael Curry ] Re: weekend music [silme@ix.netcom.com] Re: village voice article [phclark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:25:39 +0000 From: Runly Subject: ecto holiday music Perhaps I missed a mention of this one, but The Cocteau Twins' Snow EP with "Winter Wonderland" and "Frosty the Snowman" is a definite add. Sharon Terra of the Incognitas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:49:45 -0700 From: silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: weekend music Michael Curry wrote: The full drum kit pretty much bugged me constantly, > but when the drummer actually did a full-fledged extended drum solo... > aagh! At the Denver show, the drum solo led directly into Natalie's big dance number. She started dancing as his solo wound down. She danced to no music, then he starting drumming again. I found the drum solo amusing - -- was wondering what was happening, but I liked it as a segue to her big dance number with kicks and all. > > Unlike Meredith, I actually have all of her CD's except the latest > one, and I highly recommend her more traditional efforts, especially > _A Compilation_, which takes her first two tape-only albums and puts > them on CD, and _My Roots Are Showing_, which has been available in > Canada since early last year but won't be out in the US (on Rounder) > until March or April. I think she's going for the crossover audience, just as her former school chum, Ashley MacIsaac, did. Mary Jane Lamond is headed that way also. I love her traditional album, but I tolerate Mary Jane's "rock" also. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:56:55 -0700 From: silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Kris Delmhorst Let me chime in about Kris Delmhorst also. I saw her last September when she was touring with Catie Curtis. At one point, Catie handed over the show to her. She put down her fiddle, strapped on an acoustic guitar, and sang us "Weatherman" (Catie sang backing vocals), a most enchanting song. My friend and I managed to buy the last two copies of her CD available at that Denver show. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:08:14 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: weekend music Hi! Ellen responded: >At the Denver show, the drum solo led directly into Natalie's big dance >number. She started dancing as his solo wound down. She danced to no >music, then he starting drumming again. I found the drum solo amusing >-- was wondering what was happening, but I liked it as a segue to her >big dance number with kicks and all. I have to agree with this. The drum solo sounded like a reel if you paid attention. That was really the only "rocking" element to the entire show that I thought was cool. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:36:27 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: ecto-tolerable holiday albums I'm utterly allergic to Christmas music, so I take note of the discs I can stand. Prime among them is the Projeckt Christmas disc I picked up last year. Unfortunately, I also lost it in Austin (though it may be in San Jose now), so I don't recall its name. Other single tracks I like are Broooooce Springsteen's "Santa Claus is Coming to Town", Robert Fripp's "Silent Night", and the version of "Home for Christmas" on I Wanna Be Kate. Unrelated dumb question for the equally pop-culture-minded: What is Javier doing back on Felicity? I thought he had had to leave the country. (Hmm... should I ectofy the question by also asking about something on the soundtrack ?-] ) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:57:46 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: ecto-tolerable holiday albums Hi! Glad to see I'm not the only one risking lowering their ecto stock by admitting to watching this show... ;> Joe inquired: >Unrelated dumb question for the equally pop-culture-minded: What is >Javier doing back on Felicity? I thought he had had to leave the >country. Admittedly I did miss the season opener (VCR user error, ugh :P), but from what I was told, his boyfriend got transferred back to the US and somehow he managed to get his residency renewed. I'm glad he's back, though - next to Megan the Goth roommate, he's my favorite character on the entire show. ;> Time for X-Files! +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:52:52 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Zap Mama, the early albums On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 01:55:33PM -0500, Ofer Inbar wrote: > Zap Mama's first two albums, the self-titled (re-released as > "Adventures in Afropea volume 1") and Sabsylma, as a pair, are I think > one of the greatest events in musical history. These are the albums > where Zap Mama really developed the power and possibilities of the > female voice as a musical instrument, before they began putting in a > lot of stronger drum & bass instrumentation. The newer stuff still > have the ensembled of 6 female voices as the core instrumentation, but > listening to the first two albums can give you a much better ability > to really hear what they're doing under (or over) all that other sound. Oddly, at the panel discussion before the UMD concert, the leader repeatedly dissed her first two albums as having been done under the duress of her record company, and that she didn't know what she was doing musically. Considering that she and her cohort (who were presented at the time as equal partners) were presented as experts in musicology, etc, when they started, I find the changes in the group and their revisionist perspective curious (as well as being less interesting musically than their early work). - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:54:21 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: phantasmagoria On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 02:01:42PM -0500, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > > So Craig and I are planning to go to the Project Lo / Happy show > at Phantasmagoria in Wheaton Thursday evening. Anyone else in the > DC area planning to be there? Anyone know details on ticket > price, when doors open, etc.? (I haven't gotten around to calling > the club yet and the details aren't on the web site...) I'm tentatively planning to go... but I'm booked every evening for the next two weeks, so I may have to take the evening for a breather. n.p. X Files n.r. Chris Welch: Close to the Edge: The Story of Yes - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:38:56 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: weekend music At 05:49 PM 11/14/99 -0700, silme@ix.netcom.com wrote: >At the Denver show, the drum solo led directly into Natalie's big dance >number. She started dancing as his solo wound down. She danced to no >music, then he starting drumming again. I found the drum solo amusing >-- was wondering what was happening, but I liked it as a segue to her >big dance number with kicks and all. I liked the dance number well enough, but still found the drum solo exceedingly cheesy. >> Unlike Meredith, I actually have all of her CD's except the latest >> one, and I highly recommend her more traditional efforts, especially >> _A Compilation_, which takes her first two tape-only albums and puts >> them on CD, and _My Roots Are Showing_, which has been available in >> Canada since early last year but won't be out in the US (on Rounder) >> until March or April. > >I think she's going for the crossover audience, just as her former >school chum, Ashley MacIsaac, did. Mary Jane Lamond is headed that way >also. I love her traditional album, but I tolerate Mary Jane's "rock" >also. Well, crossover fame tends to be fleeting, because if you try to go back you lose many of the new fans anyway. Speaking of Ashley MacIssac, did any ectophile pick up either _Fine Thank You Very Much_ or his re-released 1992 album _Close To The Floor_? As I understand it both are quite traditional. Mike np: Sarah Slean -- Blue Parade ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:44:02 -0700 From: silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: weekend music Michael Curry wrote: > I liked the dance number well enough, but still found the drum solo > exceedingly cheesy. Natalie always has some cheese in her live shows. :) You all missed out on the black gaffer tape bit, I believe, also, unless she repeated that at Berklee. I personally thought that she was more "up" on this tour than on previous ones. (I think this show was my 8th time seeing her live. It's not that she's been shy the other times; she just seemed more "up" and ready -- perhaps it's the choreography. I'd not seen her rush the audience before, for example.) > > Well, crossover fame tends to be fleeting, because if you try to > go back you lose many of the new fans anyway. But you've made money in the meantime, and you regain the old fans. :) I'm not saying I approve of it, but it happens. Look at Clannad. I preferred them in the '70s and early '80s when they were much more traditional, back before they developed that "lush" sound. Oh well. It shows what I know! :) Those older albums (Clannad, Dulaman, Clannad 2, Crann Ull, In Concert) still are my favorites. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:34:17 -0700 From: phclark Subject: Re: village voice article rebel without a clause wrote: > > this article from the village voice has been making the rounds of the tori > amos lists (for obvious reasons), but also touches on the lilith phenom and > the fall-out. ecto-yakking fodder, for sure. ;) > > woj > > p.s. slap my fingers if this has already been posted... AACK!!! Maybe someone should be smacked for writng such drivel... Oh well, the First Amendment only says you have the right to say it, not to have any one pay attention. Mine certainly wandered. Peter Clark ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #379 **************************