From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #371 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, November 8 1999 Volume 05 : Number 371 Today's Subjects: ----------------- mila drumke at arlene grocery [NNadelS@aol.com] Re: i can't think of a good header [phclark ] Fiona Apple article [Valerie Richardson ] Happy "Spot Checked" in Chicago Reader! (Kate mention) [WretchAwry ] Kristeen Young, Mila [Paul Blair ] Re: Splendid, Mila [Andrew Fries ] who *is* barbara gogan? [Damon des Jumeaux ] Re: who *is* barbara gogan? [phclark ] Re: i can't think of a good header [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Splendid, Mila [Joseph Zitt ] attention Seattle-area Ectophiles [Steve VanDevender ] Julie Axis leaves My Scarlet Life [Paul Blair ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:11:01 EST From: NNadelS@aol.com Subject: mila drumke at arlene grocery I missed mila's show, can someone post the set list for the sat. arlene grocery show! she's so great, i hope she comes back soon. - -nick ps. anyone know pepper mcgowan? anyone have the cd? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 01:15:54 -0700 From: phclark Subject: Re: i can't think of a good header JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > > > > also, dadawa. has she been discussed here? i got sister drum at a used cd > store There's another, as well. Peter Clark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 09:41:05 -0500 From: Valerie Richardson Subject: Fiona Apple article There is an article about Fiona Apple in the New York Times this morning: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/artleisure/fiona-apple-music.html You might need to register for the online version of the Times if you haven't already done so. - --Valerie Richardson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 11:25:19 -0600 From: WretchAwry Subject: Happy "Spot Checked" in Chicago Reader! (Kate mention) http://www.chireader.com/music/spotcheck.html The photo and text is also in this week's hard copy of the Reader. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 13:02:57 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Splendid, Mila Hi! Andrew noted: >Angie and Jesse have a band called Splendid and released a CD, "Have you >got a name for it". It came out here in Australia about a month ago. They've also been featured on two episodes of Buffy (Sherlyn take note ;), playing in The Bronze. The first time was last season, and then I think they were in the season premiere last month too. Nick requested: >I missed mila's show, can someone post the set list for the sat. arlene >grocery show! Let's see if I can remember: Super8 Constance The two-bass song I can never remember the title of (Don Keller calls it her "two bass hit" ) All Things Told Indiana Last Light Motorboat Little Pro Time That We Spent Someone (encore) It was your standard show, with nothing new. I'm starting to become convinced that she's never going to write any more new songs. Ever. Still, though, it was great, and Lyris was a goddess as usual. Her fan club was in the back and they were quite amusing. :) I brought a friend of a friend who had never heard of Mila before, and he was quite won over. And Mila's husband looked very dashing in his ectofest hat. ;> >she's so great, i hope she comes back soon. Apparently this is it for NYC shows until the new year, alas... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:38:42 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Kristeen Young, Mila Meredith wrote re Kristeen Young: >>Her almost-floor-length skirt (over the standard black Doc >>Marten-style boots) matched the pattern of the top; on her bare stomach was >>printed the word "OBLIGATORY." > >Probably somewhere else on her body she had painted the word "TATTOO". >Last time she did that, there was one word on each arm. I grew up in a house where both English and Spanish were spoken; the Spanish word for bellybutton is "ombligo." I had to rub my eyes a few times to be sure that I wasn't misreading "OMBLIGATORY." Meredith wrote re Mila: >The two-bass song I can never remember the title of (Don Keller calls it >her "two bass hit" ) There still is no title to this song. On set lists it's gone from being called "All Fours" to being called "Bass Song." >It was your standard show, with nothing new. I'm starting to become >convinced that she's never going to write any more new songs. Ever. Nah. It's just growing pains. I think both the bass song and "Indiana" are more distinctively "Mila" than anything she did before. On her albums you can see where she's experimenting with a variety of different styles, even though she makes them all her own. Now I think she's moving to a new level of finding her voice; I'm sure it's a lot harder. (Thinking on this makes me wonder if Susan McKeown has been moving in the opposite direction lately.) Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:11:47 +1100 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Splendid, Mila On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, meredith wrote (about Splendid): >They've also been featured on two episodes of Buffy (Sherlyn take note ;), >playing in The Bronze. The first time was last season, and then I think >they were in the season premiere last month too. This season's premiere is still at least a month away for us Down Under, but I remember Splendid appeared on Buffy once before - and I know I taped that episode, along with all the others. The trouble is, for the life of me I can't remember which one it was, and so far I haven't been able to locate it just going through the tapes! While searching for it provides me with an excuse for a massive Buffyfest it drives me nuts because I'm pretty sure I've gone through the lot by now, without luck. It was probably that one 30-second bit I fast-forwarded through :) This is a long shot, I know - but would anyone remember which episode it was? - ------------------------------------------------------ "Macintosh for Productivity, Linux for Development, Palm for Mobility, and Windows for Solitaire." - - spotted on a t-shirt @ macsurfshop.com - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 15:31:26 -0800 (PST) From: Damon des Jumeaux Subject: who *is* barbara gogan? just a random question - i'm listening to sahara blue (the hector zazou thing) for the first time in ages, and wondering if barbara gogan has done anything else and if it sounds as good as her vocals on here. a quick search of the guide turns up nothing; the list archives (i didn't realise i'd *put* search term highlighting in the existing listweb search... geez, i've got to get working on that thing!) had a few references, mostly woj answering my question about sahara blue ages ago and a mention of something else by zazou and gogan. any comments? - -damon Damon Harper des Jumeaux _/\_ "Imagine the Creator as a damon@jumeaux.bc.ca __\ /__ stand-up comedian, and at once Les Jums: jumeaux@jumeaux.bc.ca \ / the world becomes explicable." http://www.jumeaux.bc.ca/damon/ |/||\| - H.L.Mencken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:24:05 -0700 From: phclark Subject: Re: who *is* barbara gogan? Damon des Jumeaux wrote: > > just a random question - > > i'm listening to sahara blue (the hector zazou thing) for the first time > in ages, and wondering if barbara gogan has done anything else and if it > sounds as good as her vocals on here. > > a quick search of the guide turns up nothing; the list archives (i didn't > realise i'd *put* search term highlighting in the existing listweb > search... geez, i've got to get working on that thing!) had a few > references, mostly woj answering my question about sahara blue ages ago > and a mention of something else by zazou and gogan. > > any comments? > > -damon > She did a "solo" album also with Hector Zazou in 1997 called "Made on Earth" (Cram 091.) I rather like it, but have not spent a great deal of time with it. I find it reminiscent of Hugo Largo and Mimi Goese, and am likely to put Barbara on the changer with them... Try Hector's " other one, too, "Songs From the Cold Seas." As I recall, Barbara is on that as well. Enjoy. Peter Clark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 20:26:16 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: i can't think of a good header On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 12:37:11AM -0500, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > did no one mention this or did i just miss it or not pay attention (silly > me if i did) that zap mama has a new 1999 album, a ma zone, and it is > sooooo good, and i am sorry that their tour (which was discussed here) > isn't coming anywhere near me because i would so so go, even several hours > away, and they played here at oberlin the semester i was home on medical > leave. sad, sad, but the album is really fantastic, do check it out, and i > will have to go buy their back catalog because the only other cd i have by > them is 7. Yup, it's out. Ofer posted a rave review of the tour. I saw it in Maryland, and most of the audience enjoyed it. (To my tastes, they were indulging the cute side of things in a manner perilously near the Spice Girls, but the instrumental performances were quite strong.) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 20:42:15 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Splendid, Mila On Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:11:47AM +1100, Andrew Fries wrote: > This is a long shot, I know - but would anyone remember which episode it was? Your source for such information: The Buffy Music Guide http://homes.acmecity.com/buffy/darkness/14/entertain/music.html lists Splendid doing "Charge" in season 5, episode 19. (Yes, I am a pack rat of data...) - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: Steve VanDevender Subject: attention Seattle-area Ectophiles I'm in Seattle until Saturday for the USENIX LISA conference. If any of you guys want to get together, I'm staying at the Paramount Hotel (room 208). I'm busy with conference activities during the days, but I should have time most evenings. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:19:37 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Kevin Bartlett/Black Tape for a Blue Girl To give the end of the story first, I got back here to the Port Authority in New York at 3:15 this morning. The bus let us off, we went into the terminal... and discovered once we were inside that the Port Authority was closed, all the doors were locked, and there was no way out. I finally managed to find and wake a sleeping security guard, who raged and fumed--"I shouldn't be doing this [i.e., letting us out] because y'all aren't supposed to be in here anyway!" (Apparently the Greyhound buses that come in at that hour are supposed to leave people off at Grand Central, but I was on the overflow bus and the driver didn't know.) Fortunately he relented. Then there was the beginning of the evening, when I arrived in Philadelphia and, because I didn't have any change, decided to break a twenty and eat dinner at the first place I came across, which was Popeye's Fried Chicken. That had to be the worst dinner of my adult life, bar none. I couldn't even finish the chicken, which is a rare thing for me. Globs of lard deep fried in more lard, with a crispy shell of lard. Ugh. Good thing that musically the trip was worth it! I made it to St. Mary's Church on the Penn campus about fifteen minutes early; at that time most of the people there were Guys With Really Long Hair. Hm, I thought, is this going to be another Kristeen Young demographic? By the time the show started, though, the audience was a lot more balanced. A handful of women were wearing very fetching long black Goth-type dresses (three of these women turned out to be members of Black Tape for a Blue Girl), and there was another handful with spiky and/or interesting colored hair, but in general it wasn't as strong a Goth turnout as I expected. At the start of the show there were between 80 and 100 people in attendance. As earlier in the week, I wound up sitting close to the sound board, about five pews back from the front. St. Mary's Church is, appropriately, a gothic church. It doesn't have a balcony, tribune or clerestory; the wooden vaulted ceiling is relatively low by gothic standards. Where the rose window would be in the back of the church is instead a window in the shape of a Wankel engine rotor (a triangle with the three sides bowed out), which adds to the exotic flavor. Lots of iron grillwork down the aisles on one side of the church, enclosing the side chapels. The main negative was that all along that same side of the church was scaffolding, which destroyed some of the aesthetic effect; on the other hand, it seemed to make a good place to hang lights and/or perch for video production. Kevin went on about 8:15. The church had gone dark; two very bright blue point sources of light were his only guide to the front of the altar/stage. One of the lights was on the top "horn" of his electric guitar (what's the name of that guitar part?) and the other on his wrist. The lights were like LEDs except much brighter--with their purity of color I wondered if they might be lasers. At any rate, they added just the right high-tech effect. Kevin was wearing a long jacket over an eighteenth-century-style white shirt with some kind of froufrou over the chest; in that respect he looked like a colonial from Philadelphia. As ever, his mane was generally tied back, with a few wild strands here and there. At the front of the altar he had a setup with two keyboards and a G3 Powerbook, which he spent a fair part of the time at. He started with a deep church bell tolling, once about every twenty seconds. In between tolls he laid down what I remember as a sort of scratchy, Blairwitchy sound, not static exactly, but not tonal either. Then at intervals he faded in and out the voices of a boys' choir singing a "Miserere." The lighting for the show accentuated the effect--the first light to go on shone against the back alter and the windows behind: a set of small haloes of light, somewhat off focus, almost like apparitions, arranged to fill a big circular area. The whole pattern rotated about fifteen degrees back and forth occasionally at very odd, jerky intervals, lending to the eerieness. From there on out I'm not going to be able to remember much in the way of specifics--his whole set was one continuous piece, though it transitioned across various soundscapes. There were lots of layers, and lots of undoing of layers, and lots of really cool guitar work. I was really entranced; this guy is really brilliant! And there was no better place for it than a church like that. Lights were mounted behind Kevin on both sides of the altar, where there was also a smoke machine so that their beams, projected up to the ceiling, would show up (unfortunately the smoke generally moved forward away from the altar so the effect didn't work as well as it could have). Later, there also appeared behind Kevin two cones of multicolored light beams that rotated to great effect. Unfortunately, there was apparently some miscommunication about how the house was going to signal Kevin when his time was up. After about an hour, there were times when he seemed to be winding up, but continued into something new. I have to say that despite my enchantment with the music, after about an hour in those wooden pews my rear end was beginning to feel it. At any rate, eventually the guy at the sound board realized that the ball was in his court, and shifted the mix in such a way as to get the message across and still let Kevin wrap up. By the time Black Tape for a Blue Girl got started, it was 9:50, and they also did about an hour and fifteen minute set, plus an encore. I have to say that though I was glad to get the chance to find out what they sound like, I was basically disappointed in them: too much "ambient" and not enough "gothic" for my taste. I was hoping I'd find a more sophisticated version of Enigma, or something that started in the Cocteau Twins universe and headed out in a different direction. But I found the music basically too mellow; to me it didn't live up to the promise that was held out by being fronted by three witchy women in black dresses. Of the three women, one (Lisa Feuer) played flute and the other two (Vicki Richards and Elysabeth Grant) switched off on violin and viola. Elysabeth Grant did the occasional vocals--and Lisa Feuer did some backing vocals when called for. Sam Rosenthal played keyboards and also made an occasional vocal contribution. The lyrics of the songs struck me as being somewhat stilted and emotionally detached--if I've had trouble connecting with October Project's formal poise, this to me was about twice as remote. This even though the subject matter was sexual surrender and worship--there just wasn't enough voluptuousness brought to it to my mind. The set was pleasant enough, but it certainly didn't live up to Kevin's work. I can't really remember much of any of it, except for an encore piece they did, written on the occasion of the death of a cat, called "Majestic as a King." The show let out about 11:15, which meant that I had a lot of time to kill until my bus left at 1:35 am. If I'd brought a radio, I would have been able to hear excerpts from the evening's concerts on the air that very evening. But I had none. I wandered around campus thinking, "I wonder if there's somewhere I can get on the Net at this time of night." Sure enough, I came across a Kinko's where I was able to get my e-mail and send a message to Sharon (turns out she had been there, but I didn't know who I was looking for, so we missed each other). I think it's just too cool that I can be a hundred miles from home in a strange city, and after 11pm I can still find a way to read my e-mail. After that I wandered into downtown Philadelphia, where I discovered that the Chinese restaurants in the Chinatown area don't close until 3 or 4 am. Where do all these people come from in the middle of the night? The streets are deserted, but the restaurants have lots of customers. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:25:08 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Kevin Bartlett P.S. One thing I forgot to mention--Kevin is supposed to have a new album out imminently. Apparently they were supposed to come out in time for the show but didn't quite make it. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:41:19 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Julie Axis leaves My Scarlet Life This just came in the e-mail: >From: DivaNation@aol.com >Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:34:20 EST >Subject: It makes me very sad to have to write this letter. > >"It makes me very sad to have to write this letter. It was >an extremely difficult decision that I had to make, and >I feel I made the right one for me. I am leaving My Scarlet >Life at the end of November. I did not want to hold the >band back and decided that leaving would be best for all >of us. I want to thank you all for your support and >encouragement during my time in MSL. It is not easy to >explain why I am leaving. There are so many things that >I want and need to accomplish in my lifetime, musical >and otherwise, and I realized that I could not accomplish >most of them while I was a member of MSL. I wish all the >best to the remaining members of MSL and I hope their >dreams come true, individually and as a band. I am hoping >that you will embrace the changes taking place and support >both the new MSL, whatever form it may take, and my new >project Jute. It has been an interesting 5-year ride that >took me places I always dreamed of being. For that I will >always be thankful. But I feel confident there are more >good times to come. I hope I will see you all again--really >soon. Thanks again for your help, generosity and good vibes. >With Hugs, Kisses and Tears." >--Julie Axis > > > > > >: ( >Boy, it's been a difficult fall, as you can now see. >Whew. > > > > > >That's it. >There's just 4 more My Scarlet Life shows with Julie. >We'll see how the band morphs. >The future is unknowable. >Dark clouds surround. >I'm looking for a ray of light, >and I'll follow it should I see it. >But nothing is solid, I'm walking on quicksand, >about to be swallowed. >IF things go right, >My Scarlet Life will continue in a new incarnation. >IF . . . > >Julie said it best: >I am hoping that you will embrace the changes taking place >and support both the new MSL, >whatever form it may take, >and her new project Jute. >We couldn't do it without you all. > >I can only hope for a bright, >beautiful-music filled future for us all, >and work toward those dreams . . . >those dreams and visions . . . >--Preston Klik > > > > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Here's the rest of the My Scarlet Life dates for 1999. >Let me put it this way: >This is the last time you'll see this My Scarlet Life line-up. And the last >time you'll ever hear some of the songs. >Sad, but true. >Change is in the air. >So come see, >and even celebrate what IS . . . becoming what was. >Transformation. >Dance, let us know you're into it. >Please. >Hear some of our songs get played for the last time . . . >ever . . . > >*tue Nov 9 -Green Bay WI @UWGB's PHOENIX CLUB, All-Ages > (319-277-0071, 2215 College) > My Scarlet Life: 1 long set @ 8 >*fri Nov 12 -Cedar Falls IA @STEB'S, 19+ > (319-277-0071, 2215 College) > My Scarlet Life: 2 sets @ 11, +? @10 >*sat Nov 13 -Iowa City IA @THE Q, 19+ > (319-337-9107, 221 Iowa Ave) > My Scarlet Life: 2 sets @ 11, +? @10 > >*sat Nov 27 -Chicago @METRO, 18+(?) late show > (3730 N Clark, 773-549-0203) > FREE TICKETS will be available on our website a week or > two before the show. > doors open @11 > My Scarlet Life @ 1ish > ? @ 11 > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >To those fans in St Louis, Louisville, Madison, Milwaukee, >Ames, Quad Cities, Dubuque, Champaign, Carbondale, >Boston, Indianapolis, LqCrosse, Steven's Point, Minneapolis, >Northfield, Toronto . . . I'm sorry we couldn't get back one >last time before the changes, but time cracked it's whip. >Watch for a new version of MSL to visit you where you live, >sometime in 2000. > >++++ InfraRed CD reviews +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >"Note to Keanu Reeves: get My Scarlet Life on your next >Matrix soundtracks ASAP. The 1st Matrix was almost as >visual as a movie can get, InfraRed is about as visual as >audio can get." --River Cities Reader > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >"How can musical vision be put into words? Edgy, thought-provoking, and >haunting . . . even more sensual than >their previous CDs, the music on InfraRed is an intensely passionate and >erotic mix . . . My Scarlet Life sound truly >unforgettable. They take the best elements of Trip Hop, >Trance, and Electronica and blend them with a Rock song >style. Julie and Christy have perfect harmonies, both their >voices are mesmerizing. If there is one band, one CD that >will define the future of music, My Scarlet Life's InfraRed >is it." --Alternative Voice > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >"Another volume dripping with dual-diva magnetizing >melodies and atmospheres that churns brooding samples >with an electronic sparkle . . . akin to chenille and steel >brushing the senses." --Octopus > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >*MailOrder*: My Scarlet Life's InfraRed, Danse Amour, >BuzzBomb, and Trypnotica CDs available @$14 ea (+$2 S+H p >er any-size order) to: (checks to My Scarlet Life) My Scarlet >Life, 5602 N Ridge, Chicago IL 60660. We send things out >right away --none of this 4-6 weeks stuff. More like 4-6 >DAYS! CDs also available from Projekt, Middle Pillar, and >Metropolis Records *BuzzBomb available from Amazon.com >and CDNow.* (+all the others CDs available soon) > >InfraRed, Danse Amour, BuzzBomb, & Trypnotica CDs >available @ many Chicagoland Towers, Best Buys, Borders, >Blockbuster, also Evil Clown, Vibes, Clubhouse, >Reckless, Quaker Goes Deaf, Dr. Wax, Rainbow, Record >Breakers, Record City, ValsHalla; Atomic, Exclusive, Elves >Palace (WI); Ear-Xtacy (KY); select Co-op Records (IA); >Projekt Mail Order; and @our shows & website: >www.MyScarletLife.com Wholesale via CARROT TOP, >MAD, MIDDLE PILLAR, METROPOLIS, VALLEY, V&R, >BAKER&TAYLOR, DivaNation. >---------------------------------------------- >FYI: We NEVER loan / share / sell our mailing lists to >anyone. We value our relationship with our audience & >won't abuse it. If you want off just let us know and >you'll be promptly deleted! > > > >(((I've no idea when you'll get another emailing from us. >There's much work to be be done, >much change to be managed, >much vision to be dreamed, and manifested. >I hope soon . . . >I hope soon . . . >Thank you to you all, thanks for your loyalty and support, >for your smiling faces, >for your love of the music. >I hope we see you all again, and soon >--we certainly intend to! >PK ))) > >Christy, Amy, and Paul send their love, >and say thanks to you all for your support, too! > > > > > > > >To rise again, renewed and refreshed, >as if from a healthful slumber. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #371 **************************