From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #353 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, October 24 1999 Volume 05 : Number 353 Today's Subjects: ----------------- meredith monk [LilWhirl@aol.com] Re: Live Mila Drumke CD! [Paul Blair ] Eurythmics Peace and NIN [Angelos Kyrlidis ] Re: meredith monk [Joseph Zitt ] Neile's September Report [Neile Graham ] Re: Neile's September Report [FAMarcus@aol.com] Fwd: Sarah's Universe, Vol 2, Iss 18 [Michael Curry ] Re: artist? [Jack Sutton ] lori carson dates! [neal copperman ] Ida & Co at Iota [neal copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:54:14 EDT From: LilWhirl@aol.com Subject: meredith monk Is there a new meredith monk recording out there? I heard an unsubstantiated rumor. - -Dina ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:06:40 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: Live Mila Drumke CD! JeffW forwarded: >And, coming in time for Christmas from Little Pro Records, >MILA DRUMKE VALENTINE'S DAY AT CIEL ROUGE >an album of jazz standards from My Funny Valentine to Cheek to Cheek. >Featuring Matt Fieldes on double bass, Adam Ben-David on piano, >Lyris Hung on violin, Mark Sacco on drums and Charlie Porter on trumpet. >Also featuring duets with Sean Altman, Erik Della Penna, Joey Fortuna >and Jake Stigers. >Advanced holiday orders will be accepted as of November. >(See http://littlepro.com/order/mailorder.html for details.) Well, darn. I was sure I was going to get to announce this to the list, since I was the only ectophile I knew in the audience Thursday night. I can't wait for this album, having seen Mila's Ciel Rouge show for the last two years in a row. She does a killer job... Anyway, Mila's show was great as usual, and featured a duet by her and Joey Fortuna (isn't that her new husband?) on "Moon River." I could see the set list from where I was sitting and was wondering how "Moon River" would go over with the Arlene Grocery crowd, but it actually came off very nicely. "Indiana" just gets better and better. >And don't forget: > >Arlene Grocery >Saturday, November 6 @ 8 >95 Stanton b/w Ludlow and Orchard >New York City >212.473.9831 Oh, crap. I'll be in Philadelphia to see Kevin Bartlett... Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:02:45 -0400 From: Angelos Kyrlidis Subject: Eurythmics Peace and NIN Hi, Tim Cook mentioned 'Peace' and I am curious what others think. In my opinion it's an excellent album, a bit on the mellow side, which is definitely one of their better efforts. 'Peace is just a word' may be a bit cliche lyrically, but Annie Lennox's vocals are awesome. There are times when she hits her lows that she sounds just like Happy! :-) 'I saved the world today' is an instant classic, and 'Forever' is magical. Is anybody planning to see them live in NY? In a completely crazy moment I decided to head down to MSG on 11/9 to see them. I still think that their concert I saw back in 89 was the best concert I have ever seen. Also, some information that Happy may (or may not) find interesting. Trent Reznor is interested in producing a female vocalist. The possibilities seem amazing: wide exposure for Happy and also some risque production for her new album (something that I have been hoping for silently for years). In the off chance that she's interested, the address to submit material is: PO Box 16948, Cleveland, OH 44116 I would think that one listen to MWABT and Trent will be hooked. That's it for now. Angelos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:08:53 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: meredith monk On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 08:54:14AM -0400, LilWhirl@aol.com wrote: > Is there a new meredith monk recording out there? I heard an unsubstantiated > rumor. I haven't heard of anything since "Volcano Songs" but one can always hope! n.p. Meredith Monk: Ellis Island (laserdisc) ... synchronistically enough! n.r. Valerie Wilmer: Jazz People - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 09:39:47 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Neile's September Report Hey, all-- This has been an amazing month--I don't think I've ever had a period of time when I've had so many new and wonderful things to listen to, all competing for my time, all of which are worth many many many listens. Luckily a few that might otherwise have been overshadowed came early enough that they had a chance to shine as they would have in a more barren time. Yeah, I know we're closing in on November. I'm sorry. ** = Neile thinks that if you miss this one, you're crazy * = Neile recommends you don't miss this one + = Neile keep playing it - - = Neile's cd player is not impressed so far **Veda Hille--you do not live in this world alone Like her last two albums, I was lukewarm about it at first but immediately it began to grow and grow and grow on me until I can see its utter brilliance. She truly is an amazing artist and performer, and this album only serves to confirm that she's my favourite artist. She's held that position for quite a while now. There is something so warmly human about her hesitancies and passions that I cannot resist. www.vedahille.com is live and online and offers this one. **kaitlyn ni donovan--songs for 'three days' I've had a tape ep of hers for years that I adore (there was a cut of hers on the Indiemania tapes I made), and the full-length album is just as wonderful--rich and quiet. The label website has a sample MP3 at http://www.hushrecords.com/. This is one of those discs that's hard to describe: it's creative but subtle about it, rather in the way that Mae Moore's _Bohemia_ snuk its way into our hearts, but I would say this is more subtle, less pop, and that Kaitlyn ni Donovan is a more talented artist, but like Mae Moore, if you're not careful she'll slip right by you. Listen. **Mary Lydia Ryan--Diaphanous I liked her first self-titled cd quite a bit, but this new one I LOVE. It starts with this incredibly catchy song called "devil with wings" (ie., "You're not an angel / you're a devil with wings".) The rest of the album is good, too, especially songs like "Begging". Heck, I think I could name the whole album here. *Tori Amos--to venus and back I like this better than I thought I would (I had bought the two singles released before the album and wasn't as drawn to them as I have been with her previous work). Tori has wondrous moments like no other. "Datura" and "Spring Haze" particular catch me and "Glory of the 80's" is quite charming and I keep finding the chorus of "concertina" in my head at odd moments, but I haven't been caught by this disc with the fishhook that lurked in her first three discs. It seems that while her songs individually catch me, somehow these last two albums as a whole haven't. Weird. I am quite enjoying the live, still orbiting disc. The versions are great, and "Cooling" here sounds like the gem the shone in the middle of the concert I heard her do just a few weeks ago. *Rebecca Timmons--The Turing Event This is one of those rare sophomore recordings that equals or perhaps even exceeds an amazing debut. On this disc Rebecca Timmons' rich, raspy voice sometimes croons and other times knocks you out with its power. The songwriting is equally strong--ranging from lovely soothing/haunting ballads to full-out grabbing rockers, not neglecting the kinds of pop hooks that keep a song ringing in your head but inventive enough so that the songs don't wear out their welcome there. This album, like the first, is beautiful, fierce, inventive, and highly recommended. *Cooldown--ether ep_ This is a delightful ectronic ep that came in as a submission to The Ectophiles' Guide, and the label owner was kind enough to send us an extra copy so I could keep one myself. Andrew Fries just reviewed it for The Ectophiles' Guide and I don't have too much to add to his description over than Miss Benny's vocals are really lovely--high, clear, ethereal. I like the collection of tunes a lot, and will definitely track down their upcoming full-length. Like Andrew, I'll be fine with it if turning into a band doesn't change their sound much. This is great! *My Scarlet Life--Infrared And My Scarlet Life is back in form to my ear, too. I really didn't like _Buzzbomb_ and worried that I wasn't going to like My Scarlet Life anymore, but I took a chance and ordered this one, and I really like it. Some really catchy songs here, and the trademark wonderfully weird noises that My Scarlet Life is so good at. "Love's gone out of fashion / Love's gone out of vogue..." "You live in pure denial..." Songs that float through the mind in odd moments. +The Changelings--Mercury EP A taste of what The Changelings are working on now. Not so very different from what they've been working on in the past (world-trance-dance), but I don't mind that one bit. +Diane Izzo--One a sort of strange amalgam of PJ Harvey, Chan Marshall of Cat Power, Liz Phair, and probably many others. So while it's not entirely original, it's pretty interesting. +Red Stars Theory--Life in a Bubble Can Be Beautiful The second album by a slowcore boy band that I'm very fond of. Again, the song that Lois Maffeo guests on is a highlight, but the rest of the album is good, too. +Kate Rusby--Sleepless Kate Rusby is no Sandy Denny, but she's good, and I like hearing her takes on traditional ballads. She's got a lovely voice and is good at this sort of thing. +Aiko Shimada--bright and dark Gentle and jazzy, I really like Aiko Shimada. She's a local artist and this is the second of her cds I've picked up (though it's actually her first disc). This is another collection of quiet but lovely songs. +Stereolab--The Free Design single Stereolab! Doing their thing once again, once again a little different but still distinctly Stereolab. +Richard Thompson--Mock Tudor Richard Thompson seems back in good form after a few less memorable (IMO) albums. An album full of catchy songs and the inimitable Richard Thompson tone. - -Lida Husik--Mad Flavor I've kept listening to Lida Husik over the years because I always find something to love in all her albums, and even like her spacey-sounding work well enough. But now she's back to pop/rock, and I should like it but this one does _nothing_ for me so far. It has disappeared back into the disc collection. I hope to pull it out and rediscover it sometime soon. - -Jane Siberry--Child, Lips, Tree Don't hate me, but these really doesn't leap into the cd player at all. I dunno, this particular phase of Jane's creation doesn't click that well with me. My loss, I know, and I'm saddened by it, and go load her first seven albums instead. - -Stereolab & Brigette Fontaine--caliméro single Gag! The vocals here SUCK. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:53:58 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Neile's September Report In a message dated 10/23/99 12:36:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, neile@sff.net writes: << ** = Neile thinks that if you miss this one, you're crazy * = Neile recommends you don't miss this one + = Neile keep playing it - = Neile's cd player is not impressed so far >> If i could encapsulate why i subscribe to this board this post by neile would be all i need. i made notations and now i will start looking. thanks neile, as always. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:03:28 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: Fwd: Sarah's Universe, Vol 2, Iss 18 Sarah coming to NYC (NYC ectophiles must not miss this!) I like... but I'm having a hard time picturing her opening for Moxy. >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:45:31 -0400 >From: "Sarah's Universe" >Subject: Sarah's Universe, Vol 2, Iss 18 > >Sarah's Universe Vol 2, Iss 18 > >Hello people, >here's a quick tour update for you all. > >Enjoy! > >Tour Dates: (* = new/changed) > >*Wed Oct 27 >Toronto, ON >Horseshoe >- solo set, 9:15-9:45pm, opening for Guster > >*Thu Oct 28 >Montreal, QC >Jailhouse Rock >- 30 min solo set, opening for Guster > >*Fri Oct 29 >Kingston, ON >Queen's Pub > >*Thu Nov 4 >Toronto, ON >HMV >in-store performance (333 Yonge St), 6:00pm. > >*Thu Nov 4 >Toronto, ON >Rivoli >- full band! $6, 10:30pm > >*Tue Nov 09 >Charleston, WV >taping Mountain Stage >nationally syndicated radio program POSTPONED until new year > >*Wed Nov 10 >Wilkes-Barre, PA >Penn State >(nooner) > >*Thu Nov 11 >Fredonia, NY >University of Fredonia >(Unicorn) >[moved up from Nov 18] > >*Tue Nov 16 >Rochester, NY >Milestones > >*Wed Nov 17 >New York, NY >CB's Gallery > >*Thu Nov 18 >TBA >TBA > >*Fri Nov 19 >Philadelphia, PA >Keswick Theatre >(with Moxy Fruvous) > >*Sat Nov 20 >TBA >TBA > >*Sun Nov 21 >Boston, MA >Somerville Theatre >(with Moxy Fruvous) > >that's all folks, >take care everyone, >-G.C. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:57:10 -0700 From: Jack Sutton Subject: Re: artist? Thanks Neile , Glenn and Mark, I knew the answer was out there in ECTOLAND somewhere. Jack Harmony Ridge Music www.hrmusic.com At 03:14 PM 10/22/99 -0700, you wrote: > >I wrote: > >>I'm 99% certain this is Frankie Armstrong's _Love, Hope and Suffering_. >>That album has a ballad about someone called Margaret and ends with a >>rather nasty song about Mary and Joseph. There are also some quite >>delightful rude songs ("Nine Times a Night"), a version of the Prince >>Heathen ballad, and a song about being a female engineer. Almost all the >>songs are strongly feminist. >> >>As far as I know it was only released on vinyl. I also only have a >>cassette recording. The album is, I think, closer to 20 or more years old. >> >>The Ani similarity is that she does a kind of shouting and singing at the >>same time that Ani occasionally does. > >Moron this: > >The album is actually entitled _Out of Love, Hope & Suffering_ and the >tracks are: William Taylor / The Female Transport / Too Much of a Good >Thing / Prince Heathen* / The Bedmaking / The Bedmaking / Anti-Carol** / >Lord Bateman / Nine Times a Night / Doors to My Mind / Bridget and the Pill >/ The Cuckoo / I'm Gonna Be an Engineer > >* The one with a character named Margaret who is married against her will >to Prince Heathen >** The one that is about Mary & Joseph > >--Neile > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net >Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines >The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 01:40:26 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: lori carson dates! While I was at Iota, I also picked up a postcard for an upcoming show there by Lori Carson! Made me quite happy, even if it does mostly compete with the Susan Werner/Kennedys show at the Birchmere that same evening. The time is a bit off, so it's conceivable to do both, but probably somewhat risky. SOrry Jeff W., but my heart is definitely more at the Lori Carson show than the Susan Werner one. I looked up her dates, and, according to Pollstar, it's a fairly short tour. Here is what they list: 10/27/99 MA Middle East Club 10/28/99 New York NY Bottom Line 10/30/99 Arlington VA Iota 10/31/99 Atlanta GA Smith's Olde Bar 11/01/99 Chicago IL Schuba's 11/04/99 West Hollywood CA LunaPark 11/05/99 San Francisco CA Cafe du Nord 11/06/99 Seattle WA O.K. Hotel neal now shuffling over: Witchcraft & Ritual Music from Kenya and Tanzinia Hologram of Baal - The Church Live From The Archives (KFOG in-studio performances) blue parade - sarah slean TranceVision 1 - TranceVision ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 01:36:59 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: Ida & Co at Iota I was at Iota for a lovely afternoon concert of (heads up Irvin) - Jenny Toomey and Dan Littleton, Warren DeFever and Ida. This was an afternoon show, which is fairly odd on its own, but even odder when it turned out there was some sort of event that involved a parade down Wilson Blvd in Arlington. Sitting in Iota, watching Ida soundcheck and a Colonial era marching band passing the window outside was a striking contrast. I was kind of hoping that since all of Licorice was present, we'd get something from that combo, but no such luck. In fact, I didn't know a thing that Jenny Toomey did, but it was a standard loose and entertaining set from her. Some great new songs (at least new to me) and no hint that they exist in any format. It'd be nice to hear that she is working on something again in this post-Simple Machines/Tsunami world. They closed with a lovely cover of a song by The Mommyheads (a band I know nothing about). Warren DeFever was up next, playing with a pair of guys from another band I've never heard of - Flash Paper. I wondered whey Warren and some people didn't mean His Name Is Alive, but after he played, I understood. While some of the guitarwork wouldn't sound out of place on an HNIA album, this really sounded like grass roots folk music. It was actually quite nice once I adjusted to the lack of studio fuzzery and effects, and got used to Warren's voice, which isn't really all that good. They played one song that I assume to be a HNIA song, though I'm not sure. (It's on a boot I bought last time I saw them, but it doesn't have any songs labeled on it. "I can't live in this world any more" is the most often repeated line.) Ida closed out the evening. It was my first experience with them, and I thought they were excellent, though a touch sleepy. A 5-piece combo including a stand-up bassist and a violin player, and 3 vocalists who did multiple instrumental duties. The music is definitely in the quiet, slow realm (think Low and Red House Painters), but nicely orchestrated with some beautiful lyrics. Oddly enough, they have just recorded a children's album (You Are My Flower). Yeah, it's a weird match, but it works pretty well. I'm not sure how it would go over with kids, but I like it. It's fairly somber treatments of a lot of folk classics, stuff like Freight Train, Sylvie, This Little Light of Mine and Shoo-Fly. Their 2 year old nephew was at the show, so they played a bunch of these songs for him. He seemed to thoroughly enjoy them, particularly the part where he got to clap at the end. I hadn't heard any Ida before, so I can't really comment much on the songs in the show, except they did do a cover of "I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight". It seems fairly likely that I will see them again next week, as they are playing a block from my house next Friday. Oh, another thing that was particularly cool was that there was a woman who was somehow related to someone in the band there who kept dancing around and singing. First off, I wouldn't really think of Ida as great dancing music, though this woman managed to dance quite exuberantly to the rhythms implied by the music. Better yet was the fact that she knew all the songs and often sang along with excellent harmonies. Usually this would be kind of annoying, but it fit the music perfectly, and added an interesting 3-dimensional feel to it. (I thought it was the kind of studio effect that Warren DeFever might actually use - just a little bit off synch complimentary vocal in the back channel.) Made me think it would be a really cool thing if a band actually toured with backup singers that they scattered around the room to flesh out their sound in all dimensions. I'd love to see someone do that. Turned out she is in a local band called the Motor Morons, who I know of but have never seen (they play music on junk instruments, and from the one track I've heard, participation of the band was not a guarantee of being able to sing!) neal ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #353 **************************