From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #331 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, October 3 1999 Volume 05 : Number 331 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Uhh, perhaps it's not my place to say this, but... [Andrew Fries ] Some tidbits (about music this time :) [Yngve Hauge ] Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others [Yngve Hauge ] zbigniew preisner [Christian Reiter ] Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others [Sherlyn Koo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 16:54:12 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Uhh, perhaps it's not my place to say this, but... On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Larry Troxler wrote: > I just >gotta say this one thing: > >CAN >EVERYONE >JUST >PLEASE >SHUT >THE >FUCK >UP >ALREADY !!?!?! I'd usually let posts of this nature slide, but I've taken to heart this recent comment from Chris : > I've always known this list to be VERY tolerant... BUT > too much of a good thing (including, or maybe, especially > *tolerance*) is ultimately counterproductive. In this spirit, I'm going to answer. Larry, you've got it: Indeed it is NOT your place to say any such thing. You will not dictate what others can or cannot discuss. Large number of posts on any subject indicates it is relevant and of interest to many on the list. If you're not one of them then tough luck, use your filters, delete keys, killfiles - or unsubscribe. - ------------------------------------------------------ "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Helder Camara - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 04:04:47 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Uhh, perhaps it's not my place to say this, but... In a message dated 10/2/99 3:02:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, afries@zip.com.au writes: << CAN >EVERYONE >JUST >PLEASE >SHUT >THE >FUCK >UP >ALREADY !!?!?! I'd usually let posts of this nature slide, but I've taken to heart this recent comment from Chris : > I've always known this list to be VERY tolerant... BUT > too much of a good thing (including, or maybe, especially > *tolerance*) is ultimately counterproductive. In this spirit, I'm going to answer. Larry, you've got it: Indeed it is NOT your place to say any such thing. You will not dictate what others can or cannot discuss. Large number of posts on any subject indicates it is relevant and of interest to many on the list. If you're not one of them then tough luck, use your filters, delete keys, killfiles - or unsubscribe. >> but hold on.................he said please. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:44:01 +0100 From: "james cunnane" Subject: RE: new albums (dot allison) Paul "Kim Paul" Kim pkkim@gis.net wrote >>>> I might be wrong here, but I think Dot Allison was the lead singer for the group One Dove who had a modern rock hit back around 1993 or 1994 called "One Love" or something like that. <<<< Yup, it's that Dot Allison. I don't know about hits, but One Dove's 1993 CD "morning dove white" is filed in my 'Glasgow West End' subgenre, along with The Blue Nile and Jerry Burns. Worth a listen, if you're in that West End state of mind. james cunnane np: Public Image Ltd: Metal Box ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:54:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Some tidbits (about music this time :) Hi you all, I've been rather very much into a state of EWS lately, so haven't bought anything new. Though I've been visiting mp3.com quite a bit, and found some very interesting artists indeed. I just wondered - Is Abigail's album out yet? The songs I've heard this far indicates that she is a tougher artist lyric-wise than Tori, and even attacking the piano as much if not more. If it is out, then what is it like? A new norwegian band (or not that new) is on their way. They call themselves Pondus, and got some gorgeous vocals. Check them out at mp3.com, though I like their newer songs more they kinda tell us that Pondus doesn't want to be put in some category. Velvet Belly (or at least parts the band - Anne Marie Almedal and Vidar Ersfjord) was spotted on the John Dee club in Oslo playing some new songs. Do we smell a new album in not too long? I haven't heard anything from BMG indicating that, but we still can live in the hope. First of all they are going to be released in England, but something tells me that that won't happen until Lene Marlin's EP "Unforgivable Sinner" is out to give VB's EP "Easy" a push. It could work actually. I very much would like to hear their cover of KaTe's "Man With A Child In His Eyes". *hugs* - -- Yngve n.p. Happy Rhodes - MWABT n.r. Chanur's Homecoming - CJ Cherryh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 06:55:17 +1300 From: Eek the Cat Subject: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others I definitely have to listen to O Seasons O Castles again now... That album never seemed to really grab me at the time, and so I hadn't picked up Jet until now (my loss.) (bonus Ecto connection... I see that Jet was recorded in Bearsville :) The album is reasonably upbeat on the whole... (in fact "Smile" is one of those songs that, by rights, should be (or have been) a huge radio hit, but probably wasn't), but varies in style a fair bit at the same time... Enzo '96 wouldn't be out of place coming from Lisa Gerrard, and Venus is the sort of gorgeously minimal mostly acoustic-guitar-and-slightly-husky-vocal track that I tend to put on repeat :) Other aircraft I've bought recently include Christine Lavin's One Wild Night (can anyone describe her Twirling routine?? :), Disappear Fear Live at the Bottom Line (Deflate Fear!), Patty Larkin's Perishable Fruit, Beth Orton's Central Reservation, Stina Nordenstam's And She Closed Her Eyes, Liz Phair's Whitechocolatespaceegg, Ani Difranco's Puddle Dive, and Anonymous 4's Portrait (which is a sampler from their albums proper...) I've not listened to most of them enough to say much about them. My favourite Ani album is still Living in Clip, which I'd recommend to pretty much anyone. And She Closed Her Eyes is nice (occasionally sublime, even), but probably an acquired taste I think. I read a print review of Central Reservation which said it was a great album but it was a shame there wasn't anything very likely to get radio play, which just seems to be more evidence that I just have no clue what is likely to be popular ("Stolen Car", surely??!) I have Sarah Slean's "Universe" EP on loan (Hi Karen) which is fabulous; I definitely need to send some money winging Ms Slean's way... And something I just have to recommend is Zbignew Preisner's "Requiem for my Friend" which I went in search of after hearing one of the tracks on the radio late one night. The music is mainly orchestral, with some utterly gorgeous vocals, some choral, some solo, with soprano Elzbieta Towarnicka taking centre stage as it were. None of it is in english (mainly latin, IIRC), so for me the vocals are purely another instrument. (Which is a relief, as the words are largely, if not entirely, religious passages which would completely ruin the experience for me if I could understand them :) It's a little off the beaten track I guess, but it very much qualifies as Ecto music... I think DCD fans in particular would like this a lot. - -Philip (who thankfully wasn't watching the netball when NZ gave away the world championship in the last few seconds tonight) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:22:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others > And something I just have to recommend is Zbignew Preisner's > "Requiem for my Friend" which I went in search of after hearing > one of the tracks on the radio late one night. The music is mainly > orchestral, with some utterly gorgeous vocals, some choral, some > solo, with soprano Elzbieta Towarnicka taking centre stage as it > were. None of it is in english (mainly latin, IIRC), so for me the > vocals are purely another instrument. (Which is a relief, as the > words are largely, if not entirely, religious passages which would > completely ruin the experience for me if I could understand them :) Does the liner notes say anything more about the music? My favorite work by Preisner is his soundtrack for "Two Lives of Veronica" by Kieslowski to whom I would presume this album is as well. If you haven't seen this film yet, then you've missed something really special, and the soundtrack is gorgous. So what I wonder - is this a standalone work, or different pieces of music picked from his other recordings of his? *hugs* - -- Yngve n.p. Over the Rhine - Eve n.r. CJ Cherryh - Chanur's Homecoming (still :) though will finish it today) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:27:35 +0200 (MDT) From: Christian Reiter Subject: zbigniew preisner hmm, donīt know if I remember this right, isnīt that the composer who wrote the scores for most of the films by kieslowski. This sounds interesting, guess Iīll pick it up (never mind the religious content since I donīt understadn latin either :) Christian Reiter On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Eek the Cat wrote: > > And something I just have to recommend is Zbignew Preisner's > "Requiem for my Friend" which I went in search of after hearing > one of the tracks on the radio late one night. The music is mainly > orchestral, with some utterly gorgeous vocals, some choral, some > solo, with soprano Elzbieta Towarnicka taking centre stage as it > were. None of it is in english (mainly latin, IIRC), so for me the > vocals are purely another instrument. (Which is a relief, as the > words are largely, if not entirely, religious passages which would > completely ruin the experience for me if I could understand them :) > > It's a little off the beaten track I guess, but it very much > qualifies as Ecto music... I think DCD fans in particular would > like this a lot. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 14:44:33 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others Wow! I feel like I'm on such a wavelength with you. I've been listening to _Jet_ for 2 days now. "Smile" is definitely one of my favorite tracks, along with "The Battle of the Trees" "There You Go" and the one about Leonor Fini. _OSOC_ grew on me pretty quickly, but it was definitely an album that required time and repeat listening and growth to appreciate. There are songs on it I always love like "Hestia" and "Paris" and others that seem to be more mood songs, or rather that in certain moods at least I don't like them nearly as much as at other times/moods. Anyway, ceratinly two albums that people can and do have strong opinions about, but both worth listening to, esp. if you like one or the other already. >I definitely have to listen to O Seasons O Castles again now... >That album never seemed to really grab me at the time, and so >I hadn't picked up Jet until now (my loss.) > >(bonus Ecto connection... I see that Jet was recorded in Bearsville :) > Where's that? I'm missing something here. >Disappear Fear Live at the Bottom Line -Now this is an album I have to listen to again. I really like the self-titled album and only liked a few songs off the one after that (I forget the name). I haven't heard any of the other albums except for this one, which didn't really grab me. Patty Larkin's Perishable Fruit, -This was the first of Patty's albums that I got. I just thought the concept was so interesting. I had read how she wanted to do an album without drums (or without percussion or without both, I don't remember exactly) and how she wanted to invite different guest artists (like Jane Siberry, Jennifer Kimball and others) to play and sing with her and use their instruments like percussion. And it's just an absolutely gorgeous album. Beth Orton's Central Reservation Ms. Orton's masterful 2nd album. Good taste. Ani Difranco's Puddle Dive I think the first Ani album I ever heard, and still one of my favorites. >I have Sarah Slean's "Universe" EP on loan (Hi Karen) which is >fabulous; I definitely need to send some money winging Ms Slean's >way... I've also been listening to this more often lately and appreciating it more and more as I do. I have to get around to ordering _Blue Parade_ soon. I have no original ideas right now. JoAnn np: _Jet_ nr: The Baltimore Waltz and Other Plays Paula Vogel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:50:55 -0700 (PDT) From: John Drummond Subject: Dot Allison I have Dot Allison's single "Colour Me", it's so great, I just finished listening to it, humorously enough... I have the full album on order... she has a write-up in the new Rolling Stone as well, in the Best New College Music section. Something like that. John ===== i'm on my knees and matching insults blow for sticky blow __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 23:11:00 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others Eek the Cat sez: > I read a > print review of Central Reservation which said it was a great album > but it was a shame there wasn't anything very likely to get radio > play, which just seems to be more evidence that I just have no clue > what is likely to be popular ("Stolen Car", surely??!) No, you're not that clueless. At least in DC, "Stolen Car" got a tremendous amount of airplay. Of course, they seemed to think she was a "new artist," but hey, at least they were playing decent music. Now it seems they don't play anything but Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, and other such crap. jeff - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | http://burka.jeffrey.net ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:08:29 +1000 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Re: Katell Keineg's Jet, and others Hey folks, Fil said: >Other aircraft I've bought recently include Christine Lavin's >One Wild Night (can anyone describe her Twirling routine?? :), You can see an animated representation at http://www.christinelavin.com. (Click on the "Turn the lights out" link too - it's very funny!) >Disappear Fear Live at the Bottom Line (Deflate Fear!), Patty *snort* >Larkin's Perishable Fruit, Beth Orton's Central Reservation, Patty Larkin's new live album "A Go Go" came out last week... everybody, go get it! Also out last week was the new Indigo Girls album "Come On Now Social", which is an excellent and far less folky and more eclectic mix than anything they've ever done before... :) sherlyn =-= Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au =-=-=-=-=-=-= [Sydney, Australia] "Going eighty on the highway, we're all rushing somewhere; But the way I feel tonight, it's like I'm already there..." - Lucy Kaplansky ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #331 **************************