From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #328 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, October 1 1999 Volume 05 : Number 328 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Afro Celt Sound System [neal copperman ] Kristin Hersh in Baltimore! (Re: Happy Sighting) [neal copperman ] bare elements [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell)] Re: Lauren Hoffman [Sue Trowbridge ] New Stuff [Tim Cook ] listen up... [blah blah blah ] listen up... a ps. [blah blah blah ] Re: listen up... [Damniel@aol.com] Re: An Interesting Copyright nuance [Philip David Morgan ] Re: new(s) stuff ["Matt Bittner" ] new Ani somethin' [John Drummond ] Re: listen up... a ps. [Joseph Zitt ] Re: new(s) stuff [Leon van Stuivenberg ] Re: New Stuff [Leon van Stuivenberg ] Ani's "To The Teeth" - 16 November 99 ["Drew Harrington" ] Re: listen up...if you want [Yngve Hauge ] adios and run ["One Two Three" ] Kristeen Young in NYC [Michael Curry ] Re: Afro Celt Sound System [neal copperman ] Re: listen up...if you want [puppycakes ] RE: Ectofest [There is no spoon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:12:02 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: Afro Celt Sound System Paul Kim, I hope those movies were brilliant if you saw them instead of Afro Celt Sound System. I saw them earlier this evening at the 9:30 Club and they were stupendous. Possibly the best concert I've seen this year. (Hmm, quick scan of the years concerts puts near the top, but not sure it is a clear cut winner. Best in the last month or so easily.) I'm too tired to say much about it tonight, but here is the rest of their tour schedule. If the name sounds good to you, then you will like them. They sound just like there name, as long as you imagine a healthy dose of electronics tossed in with the traditional stuff. neal np: Child - Jane Siberry Date City State Venue 09/29/99 Washington DC 9:30 Club 10/02/99 Montreal QC Le Spectrum 10/05/99 Toronto ON Phoenix Concert Theatre 10/06/99 Hamtramck MI Motor Lounge 10/07/99 Chicago IL Double Door 10/08/99 Minneapolis MN First Avenue 10/10/99 Boulder CO Fox Theatre 10/13/99 Portland OR Crystal Ballroom 10/14/99 Vancouver BC Vogue Theatre 10/15/99 Seattle WA Show Box 10/17/99 San Francisco CA Bimbo's 365 Club 10/18/99 Los Angeles CA Mayan Theatre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:52:16 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: Kristin Hersh in Baltimore! (Re: Happy Sighting) At 5:15 PM -0700 9/29/99, Steve VanDevender wrote: >I also discovered much to my dismay, after I got back, that >Kristin Hersh played right here in Eugene in the most ideal local >venue (the WOW Hall) during the time I was in Germany. Waaah! I picked up the Baltimore City Paper today and saw that Kristin is going to be playing at the Ottobar on Monday, October 25. For those of you who don't know the Ottobar (well, I guess that would probably be everyone.... Sue, it used to be Chambers, there, now one person knows it), it is really really tiny. Like I bet it doesn't hold more than 70 people, and I may be being generous on that one. Don't know if she is doing any DC/VA shows, but if not, maybe this is finally something that will make DC area ectophiles treck up to Baltimore! And now I can get that Murder album! So anyone who was perhaps supposed to pick one up for me and forgot can quit feeling guilty :) (Thanks for the Kym Brown disc Neile. Haven't listened yet, but soon....) If anyone wants me to pick up the Kristin disc, let me know in the next several weeks. neal np: Child - Jane SIberry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:28:47 -0700 (PDT) From: John Drummond Subject: Lauren Hoffman Y'all, So tonight I was listening to a "night driving" mixtape I made for myself a few months ago, it had just what I'd consider really lovely songs on it, songs good for chilling me out or listening to when chilled out... and to avoid getting into these new flame wars (and aren't some of y'all surprised I remained completely uninvolved? *evil grin*), I am of course the only person who has ever heard the tape except for the occasional person riding in my car when I need night-driving music... ANYHOW... so it's a lovely mixtape, there's Tori's "Sister Janet" and Sarah Slean's "John XXIII", and there's also Lauren Hoffman's absolutely incredible "Persephone", and I got to remembering how her whole debut album _Megiddo_ completely owned my world for ages after I bought it, and how I totalled my mother's car while I was not paying close enough attention to the road because I was going wild singing along during "The Ashram Song"'s totally transcendent climax, and dammit, I want to know where her new album is! I remember looking on her website on her (perhaps then-) label Virgin Records' site... and it was the same as when it was last updated in like June of last year talking about how she was just about to re-enter the studio and things... and um... it's been WAY more than a year, and I'm 'bout damn near ready for a new album... it's been 2 years already, probably more than 2 years... I got _Megiddo_ when I was 16, I'm 18 now... so LORD where is it? LAUREN? Where'd you go, girlfriend? Sugar? Anybody? Do any of y'all even know who she is? I went and looked on the Guide too, and she's not even slated for future inclusion... and she's so Ecto, too, I'd figured y'all would be all up in her business... but she's fallen out... all of the critics absolutely adored her, she was on like everybody and their granny's top-5-of-'97 lists, The New Yorker said that she was the real deal (a late-teenage songwriting prodigy) to Fiona Apple's idiot savant, which is where I first heard her mentioned, that very article... and I found it so interesting and intriguing that I had it special-ordered... ah, well... but anyhow... do any of y'all at all have any clue who she is, or even better, what the hell she's doing right now and/or where that new album she's supposedly been recording for 16 months? PLEASE help me out here, I'm totally fearing for her life now. John n.p. Andrea Parker, _Kiss My Arp_ ===== ain't no way i lost this war and ain't no way you won __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:33:05 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: bare elements Hi. Does anyone know anything about this new theater group, bare elements? I heard about it because Rachael Sage is playing at their fundraiser. The post didn't say much about the group, but what it did say sounded really interesting to me. And since I'm a theater writer... Anyway, any info or pointers would be most appreciated. Good night. Sweet dreams. JoAnn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:39:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: Lauren Hoffman On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, John Drummond wrote: > it's been WAY more than a > year, and I'm 'bout damn near ready for a new album... > it's been 2 years already, probably more than 2 > years... I got _Megiddo_ when I was 16, I'm 18 now... > so LORD where is it? LAUREN? Where'd you go, > girlfriend? Sugar? Anybody? Do any of y'all even > know who she is? Yes!! Quick, John, head for Lauren's official web site -- http://www.forlauren.com She's currently on tour and she has new music too. She's playing 2 dates in the San Francisco area this weekend -- Saturday at Cafe du Nord and Sunday at Mills College. Details are on the site, which contains lots of fascinating info about her life, career and messed-up deal with Virgin Records. - --Sue Trowbridge * albany, california trow@slip.net * www.interbridge.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:47:41 +0100 From: Tim Cook Subject: New Stuff Well well well. I'm back after six months away and it was like walking into an episode of RealWorld :-). I must admit I'm bemused why anyone would get so worked up about something just because they weren't asked. Seems like a lot of fuss about nowt to me!! Still, it wasn't all bad. I learned the meaning of "hubris", and "solipsistic" (even if I did have to look them up in a dictionary). Anyway, as my Mum used to say, if you don't stop that I'll really give you something to complain about. So I'll not worry about being asked if I mind or not and instead have a good whinge about the price of CDs in this country, 14-15 quid a pop for new releases. On a musical note, it seems there's a lot of good stuff being released on *that* side of the pond (Emm Gryner, Veda Hill etc). I tried finding Veda's new CD on her web site but couldn't find a mention of it. Anyone got any suggestions for mailorder companies that stock the good stuff (Veda, Emm et al), ship to the UK and also take plastic as I finally tore up my First Union check book the other day (not a moment too soon IMHO!!). Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:44:45 -0700 From: blah blah blah Subject: listen up... > I certainly am disappointed with the joyous > celebration surrounding the driving off of a long-time > member and contributor. > > Jeff Hanson i have to fully agree with JEFF here. despite the obviously inflammatory and uncalled for name calling that CHARLEY did resort to in the end, i personally find it equally as offensive that people are ready to dismiss him, without a second thought. did people actually read any of what he wrote, or did they outright just ignore it? because i still don't think anyone gets the gist of what his message was. CHARLEY was not opposed to ECTOFEST happening. nor was he opposed to even the use of the name ECTOFEST per se. BUT he was opposed to the fact that no one asked the list members whether or not they wanted ECTOFEST to happen, and whether or not the name could be used, before it was organized. it's a moot point, because obviously everyone INCLUDING HIM (YES, INCLUDING CHARLEY!) would have said yes to the fest. BUT the idea was that the community as a whole would have had a CHOICE to say yes or no to the festival. the reasoning being that ECTOFEST belongs to us, the list members and community, and not to any old random person. now we all know that METH and CHUCK are LOVED members of this list. they should be APPLAUDED for their hardwork and dedication. they did a FANTASTIC job as did all the volunteers for the festival, and i for one, was disappointed that i couldn't make the fest. but i think it is evident that i SUPPORTED them, by the fact that i designed the poster, and that i openly offered to help with the graphics for the next ECTOFEST (if there is to be one? lets hope and pray!). but the fact is that this is an open list, at least i hope it is, and will stay that way (no passwords please ;) ). but with an open list, this means that anyone can subscribe. anyone can read the list, discover great music, and discover a great community. and of course this means that anyone could have also come up with their own version of ECTOFEST. why is this bad? well what if this random person decided to throw ECTOFEST and dedicate all the money to the KKK or ARYAN NATION or some other organization that the majority of ECTO did not deem as worthy of receiving the support of ECTO and the support of the name ECTOFEST? i am sure then that the list would have been in a bit of an uproar about that. all CHARLEY wanted was the ability to say yes or no to the fest, REGARDLESS of who was throwing it. the answer was obvious that it was going to be YES to the question, if METH and CHUCK were to pose. but he wanted the OPTION in case a random WHITE SUPREMISTS invaded the list (yes it is a long shot, but that is not the point...) . i think all of us would like to have, when you think about rationally. the argument that CHARLEY poses is purely an intellectual one, but to him an important one, and i think an important one to most of us who consider ourself part of the community. it took me a long while to wade through his emotionally hostile emails to get to this point. but it is worth getting to. you may not like CHARLEY. you may even HATE CHARLEY, but don't dismiss him or his thoughts too easily or readily. i for one, will miss him on this list. irvin - ------------------- "Well, Ecto's been a little weird lately...." - fellow ecto member in personal note to me.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:57:41 -0700 From: blah blah blah Subject: listen up... a ps. vickie maples said: > (Too bad that, ironically, Charley was the only > one in this whole debate who actually *cared* > about the "Ecto community." whoops! one more thing. if you read carefully VICKIE said CHARLEY was the only one IN THIS WHOLE DEBATE who actually *cared*.... not cared in general.... she isn't accusing anyone of not caring about ECTO or the community. it is obvious that METH and CHUCK and everyone who was involved with ECTOFEST cared immensely. or else why would we be arguing about this in the first place? why else would everyone spent sleepless nights to organize and create ECTOFEST? bringing HAPPY to play for the largest ECTO gathering in history (is it the largest? i dunno, probably...) is an OBVIOUS example of caring for this fuzzy blue community. but CHARLEY was the only one in the debate would was arguing for the rights of the COMMUNITY as a whole, instead of a the rights of any single INDIVIDUAL. he wanted the power to be given to the community to say yes or no, to speak as a unit, instead of a few individuals, no matter who they were, no matter what they were saying. and yes this community is made up of INDIVIDUALS. but a community is so much more than just a basic sum of INDIVIDUALS. and so yes, CHARLEY was the ONLY one who *cared* for the ECTO COMMUNITY enough to argue for it. and sadly he is no longer part of it. irvin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 06:28:56 EDT From: Damniel@aol.com Subject: Re: listen up... In a message dated 9/30/99 00:51:01 Pacific Daylight Time, irvin wrote: > did people actually read any of what he wrote, or did they > outright just ignore it? because i still don't think anyone gets > the gist of what his message was. Cheez Whiz! Can we let this go already?! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:06:14 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: An Interesting Copyright nuance Good Evening, Mike: > The short answer is that if the artist doesn't own the copyright, they have no > rights whatsoever unless they (or their lawyers) are smart enough to write up > their rights in the contract and have the copyright owner agree to > it. I think of Paul Simon, in whose name his recent albums have been Copyrighted. Bruce Springsteen, also, if I remember correctly. > ...[The] record company keeps the lion's share of the profits of the record, > the artist essentially pays for production themselves, gets a measly 7% of > sales if they're lucky, and has lost the rights to the songs they wrote, in > perpetuity. This is standard operating procedure. This must change. Yes, even though it's a lot easier for companies to devour each other (as Seagram/Universal did PolyGram) than to get them to change the way they do business. I'm dealing with this a little myself, because I'm gearing up to produce a live album by a local folkie who's also a dear friend (I think I mentioned this before here)... the Copryight and the profit cuts are very much on my mind. She (Jill Decker) originally proposed that I could manufacture the album and profit from it (essentially a "blessed" boot in that she's giving me the green light to do it), but I'd rather share the rights and the take with her. These _are_, after all, her songs, and her legacy. Her life's work. I _can_ do good recordings, but I'm a lousy lyricist and singer. A lot more can get done in collaboration, and both collaborators should share equally in it. That simple. I want that to be my personal dogma. Philip David (you've gotta deal with the ethics) 9/29/1999 - --- http://dianewolkstein.com/ - --- Y2K= Penguin Time Gates-boy, your days on my hard disk are numbered. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:10:10 -0400 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: Afro Celt Sound System I wish I had seen them at the 9:30 Club. (Though last time I went to the 9:30 Club I was glad I brought along ear plugs!) I bought the Afro Celt Sound System II CD a couple months ago-- excellent. The May issue of Irish Music magazine (www.irish-music.net) features them on their cover. - --Bill At 02:12 AM 9/30/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Paul Kim, I hope those movies were brilliant if you saw them instead of >Afro Celt Sound System. I saw them earlier this evening at the 9:30 Club >and they were stupendous. Possibly the best concert I've seen this year. >(Hmm, quick scan of the years concerts puts near the top, but not sure it >is a clear cut winner. Best in the last month or so easily.) > >I'm too tired to say much about it tonight, but here is the rest of their >tour schedule. If the name sounds good to you, then you will like them. >They sound just like there name, as long as you imagine a healthy dose of >electronics tossed in with the traditional stuff. > >neal Bill Adler Adler & Robin Books Literary Agency Washington, DC www.adlerbooks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:20:58 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" Subject: Re: new(s) stuff On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 06:56:50 +0200, Leon van Stuivenberg wrote: > For those of you who might not have caught previous postings, the > version of "Live In Paris And Toronto" which is being released to retail > is *exactly* the same as the one we have been selling via Quinlan Road > mail order since May - same track listing, same number of songs (17), > same versions etc. The only difference is that the mail-order version > comes in a book-bound sleeve (ie it looks a little bit like a tiny hard- > cover book). The retail version comes in a jewel case (that standard CD > case made of clear plastic) and is wrapped in a gold-embossed sleeve. > The artwork is the same in both cases (with allowances for the different > format) and the CD booklet inside is the same. I've been out of it for awhile. Does Quinlan Road now have a secure site? What's the URL? Sorry for the questions. Matt Bittner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 06:03:48 -0700 (PDT) From: John Drummond Subject: new Ani somethin' Y'all, Okay, I downloaded that live mp3 of "To the teeth" back when ummm... Bill Adler? or somebody or other posted the link to it... and I was like, "This is the bomb shit!" and now it turns out that's the title track to the new album! And as usual, I'm SO EXCITED ABOUT IT... Ani on guitar and some cool MC on the mic is something that has been needing to happen for awhile... and no, Utah Phillips is NOT some cool MC... he's... hmm... a liberal. ;D ANYHOW... I'm really looking forward to the album that can kick "Up Up Up Up Up Up"s ass, because Lord knows that was the only thing I listened to for like 4 months... *one excited bzatch* John > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:02:14 -0500 > Subject: New Ani Record!!!! > > Album release date: November 16, 1999. > > > Ani Difranco Explores A World Armed To The Teeth On > Her Latest Album > > "Punk and folk are the terms that usually precede > DiFranco's name, but this > girl's got soul." > -The Boston Globe > > It's never been a secret that Ani DiFranco is a > dizzyingly prolific > songwriter. After all, we're talking about a > musician with more than a > hundred songs under her belt by the time she reached > her twentieth > birthday-and that was fourteen records ago. With > brazen disregard for music > industry convention, the Little Folksinger now > releases her third album of > 1999 alone. Hot on the high heels of Up Up Up Up Up > Up and Fellow Workers > (the latter a collaboration with Utah Phillips), To > The Teeth sends 13 > brand-new tunes into orbit, carried aloft by Ani's > trademark combo of > political and personal insight, vocal fireworks, > high-velocity fingerwork, > and funkalicious grooves. Ani plays lots o' > instruments here, including > guitars of every stripe, of course, but also bass, > drums, piano, organ, even > megaphone and banjo. And she's joined by trusty > bandmates Julie Wolf on > keyboards and backing vocals, Jason Mercer on bass, > and Daren Hahn on drums. > > Ani herself is the first to admit that To The Teeth > is different from any of > her previous albums, "in the sense that it spans a > year of various recording > situations; it brings together a bunch of different > studio settings for me." > The tracks here range from solo inventions recorded > at The Dust Bowl, Ani's > new home studio apparatus, such as "I Know This > Bar," to full band > recordings like "Wish I May" and "Back Back Back," > made in New Orleans with > Julie, Daren, and Jason. While several of the songs > were written and first > performed during the summer '99 "F-Word Tour," > plenty of them have not yet > been heard by anyone, anywhere. > > "For me one of the most exciting things was having a > couple of my musical > heroes on the record," Ani says. Sure enough, > legendary James Brown/George > Clinton sideman (and "F-Word Tour" special guest) > Maceo Parker is on hand on > tenor sax and flute, plus another feller whose name > might ring a bell: The > Artist Formerly Known as Prince, who, in DiFranco's > words, "sang the shit > out of 'Providence.'" > > There's no question that even longtime Ani > aficionados will find still more > stunning surprises here, starting with the range of > instruments: Toronto > noisemaker Kurt Swinghammer provides more (and > wilder) electric guitar than > anyone has ever heard on a DiFranco disc; Brian Wolf > of Drums & Tuba brings > trumpets and, of course, tubas to the table; and > up-and-coming New Orleans > trumpeter Irvin Mayfield adds to the horn section. > ("It's a very horn-y > record," Ani laughs.) Rapper Corey Parker pops up on > "Swing," joined by a > little turntable scratchin' and a whole lotta brass. > Then there's the > jaw-dropping new directions suggested by the solo > Dust Bowl tracks > "Freakshow" and "The Arrivals Gate." > > As always, Ani's latest songs ring with the urgency > of newspaper headlines > and the intimacy of journal entries. The latest > round of gun-related > violence inspired the title track, while "Hello > Birmingham" is a poignant > take on the murder of Dr. Barnett Slepian at the > hands of an opponent to > abortion rights in Ani's hometown of Buffalo, New > York. From these wrenching > accounts of American life at the end of the century > to the simple joys of > watching lovers reunite at "The Arrivals Gate," To > the Teeth is proof > positive that, as a songwriter, musician, and > producer, Ani DiFranco > continues to defy all guesses as to where she's > going next. ===== i'm on my knees and matching insults blow for sticky blow __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:34:57 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: listen up... a ps. On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:57:41AM -0700, blah blah blah wrote: > vickie maples said: (That's Mapes, not Maples) > but CHARLEY was the only one in the debate would > was arguing for the rights of the COMMUNITY as > a whole, instead of a the rights of any single > INDIVIDUAL. he wanted the power to be given > to the community to say yes or no, to speak as a > unit, instead of a few individuals, no matter who > they were, no matter what they were saying. If you recall, the issue came up when Ectofest was first announced. Several of us spoke from a middle ground: that it would probably have been better for Meth and Chuck to have gotten a consensus before using the name, but that, once it had happened, it would be good to help them out. COMMUNITY is not helped by forever castigating people for a questionable decision (either Meth and Chuck's use of the name, or Charley's flamage) but by accepting what has happened and continuing from there. The worst possible consequence of Meth and Chuck's announcing the fest would have been for Ecto to shun them and loudly diss the festival, with nobody showing up and everyone losing big. This would have caused Ecto to look very bad in the eyes of both the charities and the artists. As the archives show, there was a precedent for using the name, in the European event some years back. I don't recall a great turmoil then. The validity of using the name, and its semiotic/sociological impact, were at least debatable. Meth, Chuck, and Charley are all valued members of the Ecto community. And each deserves our solidarity, forgiveness, and support. As a rabbi said a while back, "Let the person without sin cast the first stone." - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:20:01 +0200 From: Leon van Stuivenberg Subject: Re: new(s) stuff Matt Bittner wrote: > I've been out of it for awhile. Does Quinlan Road now have a secure site? What's the URL? Sorry for the questions. http://www.quinlanroad.com/ afaik, it's not a secure site/ you can't order online, but you have to print a form instead and snailmail or fax it to them. Creditcard is an option though, so if finding a faxmachine is no problem it's not that much different from ordering online.. Leon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:28:44 +0200 From: Leon van Stuivenberg Subject: Re: New Stuff Tim Cook wrote: > Veda's new CD on her web site but couldn't find a mention of it. On the new site (up in the next month or so?) you'll be able to order online; in the meantime, you could use the existing order form, replace/add the title of the new cd, and mail it the usual way (price was $18 CDN). Btw, Kate said: <<< You may (or may not) be happy to know Veda will have T-shirts available through mail order soon. >>> And furthermore, there are plans for a nice "companion book", as mentioned by Meredith a while back. Leon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:32:10 -0700 From: "Drew Harrington" Subject: Ani's "To The Teeth" - 16 November 99 Album release date: November 16, 1999. ANI DIFRANCO EXPLORES A WORLD ARMED TO THE TEETH ON HER LATEST ALBUM "Punk and folk are the terms that usually precede DiFranco's name, but this girl's got soul." —THE BOSTON GLOBE It's never been a secret that Ani DiFranco is a dizzyingly prolific songwriter. After all, we're talking about a musician with more than a hundred songs under her belt by the time she reached her twentieth birthday—and that was fourteen records ago. With brazen disregard for music industry convention, the Little Folksinger now releases her third album of 1999 alone. Hot on the high heels of Up Up Up Up Up Up and Fellow Workers (the latter a collaboration with Utah Phillips), To The Teeth sends 13 brand-new tunes into orbit, carried aloft by Ani's trademark combo of political and personal insight, vocal fireworks, high-velocity fingerwork, and funkalicious grooves. Ani plays lots o' instruments here, including guitars of every stripe, of course, but also bass, drums, piano, organ, even megaphone and banjo. And she's joined by trusty bandmates Julie Wolf on keyboards and backing vocals, Jason Mercer on bass, and Daren Hahn on drums. Ani herself is the first to admit that To The Teeth is different from any of her previous albums, "in the sense that it spans a year of various recording situations; it brings together a bunch of different studio settings for me." The tracks here range from solo inventions recorded at The Dust Bowl, Ani's new home studio apparatus, such as "I Know This Bar," to full band recordings like "Wish I May" and "Back Back Back," made in New Orleans with Julie, Daren, and Jason. While several of the songs were written and first performed during the summer '99 "F-Word Tour," plenty of them have not yet been heard by anyone, anywhere. "For me one of the most exciting things was having a couple of my musical heroes on the record," Ani says. Sure enough, legendary James Brown/George Clinton sideman (and "F-Word Tour" special guest) Maceo Parker is on hand on tenor sax and flute, plus another feller whose name might ring a bell: The Artist Formerly Known as Prince, who, in DiFranco's words, "sang the shit out of ‘Providence.'" There's no question that even longtime Ani aficionados will find still more stunning surprises here, starting with the range of instruments: Toronto noisemaker Kurt Swinghammer provides more (and wilder) electric guitar than anyone has ever heard on a DiFranco disc; Brian Wolf of Drums & Tuba brings trumpets and, of course, tubas to the table; and up-and-coming New Orleans trumpeter Irvin Mayfield adds to the horn section. ("It's a very horn-y record," Ani laughs.) Rapper Corey Parker pops up on "Swing," joined by a little turntable scratchin' and a whole lotta brass. Then there's the jaw-dropping new directions suggested by the solo Dust Bowl tracks "Freakshow" and "The Arrivals Gate." As always, Ani's latest songs ring with the urgency of newspaper headlines and the intimacy of journal entries. The latest round of gun-related violence inspired the title track, while "Hello Birmingham" is a poignant take on the murder of Dr. Barnett Slepian at the hands of an opponent to abortion rights in Ani's hometown of Buffalo, New York. From these wrenching accounts of American life at the end of the century to the simple joys of watching lovers reunite at "The Arrivals Gate," To the Teeth is proof positive that, as a songwriter, musician, and producer, Ani DiFranco continues to defy all guesses as to where she's going next. - -end- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:51:29 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: listen up...if you want In a message dated 9/30/99 3:51:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, iflin@sirius.com writes: << and of course this means that anyone could have also come up with their own version of ECTOFEST. why is this bad? well what if this random person decided to throw ECTOFEST and dedicate all the money to the KKK or ARYAN NATION or some other organization that the majority of ECTO did not deem as worthy of receiving the support of ECTO and the support of the name ECTOFEST? >> now wait a minute............this arguement was made before and its as far fetched now as it was then. first of all its paranoia in the extreme. but if it DID happen who on this list would support such an insane venture??? what the hell would a person like that even be listening to ecto music??? please. look............no one on this list is answerable to anyone else. its a forum for the exchange of mutual interests. music. its not a political party. its not the girl scouts. there are no membership fee's. there are no laws. anyone can say pretty much what he or she wants. some of us take this list way to seriously. charley is one of those. i suggest he save those kinds of emotions for people in his personal life. people who he cares about and who care for him. this is just a music list. and if i was a gay bashing white supremist racist whore monger and i wanted to get ecto tatooed on my forehead you guys would realistically have nothing you could do about it in a free society. i too wish i could have been at that festival. and anyone else that gets an idea to do something similar only needs the acts involved to validate whether they can do it or not. and that is the bottom line like it or not. you know, to me, this sounds a lot like jealousy mixed in with a portion of insecurity which is sad and very petty. fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:15:21 -0400 From: John J Henshon Subject: Katell K Nick wrote, >>Katell is so sweet! She's coming back in November<< Yes she is ! Was distressed not being able to make the show, and more so when I heard Susan and Natalie were there. Any details about Katell's return in November ? John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:09:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: listen up...if you want > In a message dated 9/30/99 3:51:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, iflin@sirius.com > writes: > > << and of course this means that anyone could have also come > up with their own version of ECTOFEST. why is this bad? > well what if this random person decided to throw ECTOFEST > and dedicate all the money to the KKK or ARYAN NATION > or some other organization that the majority of ECTO did not > deem as worthy of receiving the support of ECTO and the > support of the name ECTOFEST? >> > First of all ... Chuck and Meth - you did a wonderful job getting this together, and I've already decided to come next year (if there is going to be one that is). Meth & Woj : Could you please send me my hat? :) I would say that the treatment of Charley after he unsubscribed is way below what I expect of this list. I've been subscribing more or less since 1993 (was away for a year cause of navy service), and I've never experienced such a warmth anywhere else. So I would say that if you (noone in particular - could be misinterpreted this :) don't have anything to say that don't slam someone behind their back then please keep it to yourself - I think that most of the people around here want to discuss music or something more interesting than to stay on this thread. This is my first and last mention of this. *hugs* - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:19:36 CDT From: "One Two Three" Subject: adios and run I reflected carefully upon this decision, to be exact, between 10:01:20PM CST and 10:01:21PM CST, before coming to the conclusion that I would join the recently despised and dopily named Rubber DeNiro, aka Charley, in the nether world of "Ex-Ecto". The reason is that Ecto has long since ceased to be the compact amiable entity it once was, and has gone of in whatever direction miscellaneous chatty laggarts have taken it. It has become the realm of long-winded one-trick sloths who think that there is a chance in hell that someone else will be even slightly captivated by their obscure pathetic niche interests. Now, I am not talking about all of you people, especially not the ones who have shown recent initiative, and have been spit at by do-nothings who have never had the balls to take the slightest risk their entire miserable lives. If the shoe fits, wear it, loser. If not, don't worry about it, no one's slamming you. I will not post again, the time that I waste here I could better spend working for monetary reward, developing new talents, socializing with real tangible human beings, photography, romance, or even just resting or masturbating to the image of Mariska Hargitay. For those of you who think you're a member of a "virtual community", I suggest that you get out of your dark little room, find someone in your REAL community that you have something in common with, and quit wasting excessive time in a chat room on the 'net - which is what, and all, this is. Notice I said "excessive"...I'm not suggesting abolition of Ecto, not that it would matter if I did...these things exist on their own perceived merit or lack thereof, as it should be. Rest assured that Charley will be lurking every day to see if you are talking about him. I will not. Best wishes to all of you. 1 2 3 "We fat the other animals to fat ourselves. We fat ourselves for the maggots." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:44:47 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: Kristeen Young in NYC I'm not sure if these have been posted yet. Since Kristeen is actually playing fairly early I hope those NYC ectophiles who have yet to see Kristeen perform will take the opportunity to check her out. Tuesday, October 5th The Elbow Room (144 Bleeker) at 9pm Tuesday, October 19th Don Hill's (511 Greewich) at 9pm Mike np: Tori Amos -- To Venus And Back nr: Hogfather by Terry Pratchett ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:35:27 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Afro Celt Sound System At 8:10 AM -0400 9/30/99, Bill Adler wrote: >I wish I had seen them at the 9:30 Club. (Though last time I went to the >9:30 Club I was glad I brought along ear plugs!) Too bad you didn't go. Like I said yesterday, really amazing show. I did not find that earplugs were needed, which is quite rare for me, and the only time it seemed questionable was during one of the many drum wars when 3 drummers were pounding away at the edge of the stage, about 4 feet away from me. I bring cotton with me to every show I go to, and use it at most. For really loud shows, the reasoning is obvious, but I find that a modest amount of cotton actually improves the sound at many shows. I'll use maybe a quarter of a cotton ball in each ear on a show that is nowhere near painfully loud. It acts as a mild filter that seems to take off a bit of the high end, which I often find to be a bit shrill. And frequently, the lyrics jump out when I do that, whereas before they were largely incomprehensible. If you ever go to a show and lightly cover your ears and find that you can comprehend more of the sound, it's the same effect. Anyway, I highly recommend the approach, though, of course, your mileage may vary. (People are often confused as to why I have a big bag of cottonballs in the trunk of my car. Hey, you never know when you may suddenly go to a concert, right?) neal now shuffling over: hologram of baal - the church This Is How It Feels - The Golden Palominos Killing Time - Love Riot Car Wheels on the Gravel Road - Lucinda Williams Child - Jane Siberry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:55:58 -0400 From: puppycakes Subject: Re: listen up...if you want when we last left our heroes, Yngve Hauge exclaimed: >Meth & Woj : Could you please send me my hat? :) but it looks so nice on top of the cd tower! ;) +w ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 00:46:28 -0500 From: There is no spoon Subject: RE: Ectofest First off, I apologise for being so blunt and sarcastic, and for using Richard as a springboard. I've been working 14 hour days and I'm a bit punchy. Second, thanks to Jeff Hanson and irvin for their posts, especially to irvin for putting what I meant into words better than I did. This whole debate has cast a pall over Ecto (for me) that I never would have imagined. It's pretty simple to me. Ecto is either a "community" or it's a mailing list that just happens to use a word called "Ecto" as its title. You can't have it both ways, not that I see. It's one or the other, to me. Ecto used to be a community, one that saved my life, and one that I'm very greatful to. Even though I've become distant and my chatterbox days are long behind me, it had nothing to do with the list itself, just rather, one of those things. I've always felt close to the list and, until a couple of months ago, thought of Ecto as a community. But when many old timers and new timers alike argued (then and now) that "Ecto" is just a word, and it's ridiculous (even "malicious" and flame-baiting) for anyone to dare to question its use by list members for a *public* event, benefitting their *own* chosen charities, rather than Happy's or the result of a vote from the list, and that there's no reason whatsoever that the list members should have a say in the process, then that tells me that Ecto is no longer a community. It's just a really cool mailing list that happens to use the word, but the word itself has little meaning other than being the name of an album, and a song, and, oh yeah, this mailing list. People who are comparing the recent use of the word to *private* gatherings held by Ectophiles in times past are completely missing the point. There's absolutely no comparison whatsoever. People who think that Charley just has it in for Meredith are completely missing the point. People who think that Charley's posts on the subject represented nothing but an ego binge (as if he were saying "Nobody asked *my* permission to hold an Ectofest!") are so *TOTALLY* and *COMPLETELY* missing the point that I'm dumbfounded and speechless with disappointment and sadness. Charley loved this list. At least, until he fought for the "community" and got flamed to a crisp for his concern. Well, why should he care if no one else does? Why should anybody? Vickie ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #328 **************************