From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #325 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, September 29 1999 Volume 05 : Number 325 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ectofest [Rubber DeNiro ] ecto on the edge of forever [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: ectofest [jason and jill ] FAST FOLK MUSICAL MAGAZINE LP'S [primecd ] RE: ecto on the edge of forever ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Re: ectofest [Richard ] Re: Could someone identify this song? [Richard ] Cover of "Naive Melody" [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Could someone identify this song? [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Cover of "Naive Melody" [Greg Dunn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Rubber DeNiro Subject: Re: ectofest Sorry; truly the last you'll hear from me. I didn't see this until I was going through and cleaning out my Ecto inbox. - --- meredith wrote: > . . . . I am, however, going to > apologize to the list at > large for Charley. For reasons still unclear to me > Charley has had major > issues with me personally for a long time, and I'm > sorry that had to spill > over onto the list at large. If Chuck (or anyone > else) had handled the > communication to the list about ectofest, I'm sure > Charley never would have > been motivated to speak out against it, and you all > wouldn't have had to > deal with his vitriol ... well, at least on this > issue, anyway. Until I read the above, none of this has really made me angry at all; just disappointed. This, however, enrages me beyond my ability to express it. What monumental and continued arrogance, Meredith, to suggest that none of what I've said really means anything to me at all; that this is all just an elaborate ruse to cause _you_ pain! What pitiful, solipsistic bullshit to offer yourself up--to apologize for me and tell all the dear, sweet children that you regret the drip, drip, drip of the blood from you crucifixion! Get _over_ yourself, sweetie; this is _so_ not about you. Everything that I've written about how I feel in regards to Ecto and the responsibility each of us has as member of this community I wrote with the utmost sincerity. How dare you, just to cover for yourself, suggest otherwise? To suggest that I never would have written any of it if you hadn't been involved is the most blindered thing anybody has said since this whole thing began. You can dismiss the whole thing, can't you, if you put that spin on it? Nothing I say has to have any value at all, because it's all really just about you. You say I have personal issues with you; I've never said so. You say the reasons for this are unclear to you. But the only way you can possibly believe that I have issues with you would be to imagine there was a reason for it. I believe I know the reason your conscience is obviously uncomfortable about, but you must admit to yourself that I never brought it up again. I just let you and your conscience live with it, and apparently the coexistence has been an uncomfortable one for you, since you've carried it around as something you imagine I must have held a grudge for. Funny thing, too, that it involves another instance in which you took it upon yourself to speak for Ecto as a whole. ... I just reread the passage I quoted at the top of this email and am flummoxed anew at the transparency of your self-serving, patronizing sleight of hand in having the nerve now speak for ME. Keep your apology, you arrogant bitch. Goodbye once again, Ecto: you seem to have the representative you deserve. - --Charley How do you sleep? --John Lennon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:27:47 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: ecto on the edge of forever In a message dated 9/28/99 8:38:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lissener@yahoo.com writes: << I just reread the passage I quoted at the top of this email and am flummoxed anew at the transparency of your self-serving, patronizing sleight of hand in having the nerve now speak for ME. Keep your apology, you arrogant bitch. >> seriously people, it's very obvious that charley has some major insecurity issues. i really don't want to be the one to call him on it because i've seen what has happened in many post offices accross this great land of ours. rather than push anymore buttons or even trying to figure out what his damage is i suggest we take a vote and declare that he owns the name "ecto". yes.......what the hell.........i know i dont need it. it will be put to a good use if it calms the rage that lies within the soul of the self claimed "rubber deniro". just dont allow him the use of the word "fest" and everyone is happy. and charley........take a few days off............visit the dali lhama..........and for gods sake.....stay away from the gun cabinet. fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:30:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jason and jill Subject: Re: ectofest On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Rubber DeNiro wrote: > > Goodbye once again, Ecto: you seem to have the > representative you deserve. > > --Charley Chuckles: Could I please be the first to say: don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:07:56 -0400 From: primecd Subject: FAST FOLK MUSICAL MAGAZINE LP'S Hi All: OK. This really is it. A few more LP sets (sorry, the CD sets are gone) from THE FAST FOLK MUSICAL MAGAZINE have surfaced (10 or so). Each contains 25 LP's from the classic days of Fast Folk (the early 80's) and features Suzanne Vega, Shawn Colvin, etc. They're so good, it's worth firing up that old turntable to hear them. Each set is $50 (+$20 SHIPPING). You can get them (while they last) by calling 1-800-PRIME CD. Visa/MC accepted. best regards, david seitz/prime cd - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Prime CD Real Music From a Real Indie www.primecd.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:13:03 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: RE: ecto on the edge of forever Hey, I got an idea... now that Charley's gone... Let's have a vote on what acts and what charities we want for Ectofest 2000! And who gets to run it! Non-binding, of course. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:24:37 -0400 (EDT) From: jason and jill Subject: RE: ecto on the edge of forever Oooh, when it comes time for the third iteration of voting on the background color for the Ectofest 2000 poster, can I tally the votes!! ;) Jason On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Foghorn J Fornorn wrote: > Hey, I got an idea... now that Charley's gone... Let's have a vote on what > acts and what charities we want for Ectofest 2000! And who gets to run it! > Non-binding, of course. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:31:08 +0000 From: Richard Subject: Re: ectofest since you're on your way out anyway, would you mind taking the garbage? and leave the key on the table by the door. on second thought, don't bother- we'll change the locks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:19:39 +0000 From: Richard Subject: Re: Could someone identify this song? The original Kingston Trio (with Dave Guard) also did a rendition of _Hard, Ain't It Hard_, as I believe it was called on one of their LPs, back in the early 60s. And I recall that the second verse was Now who's gonna kiss her ruby lips? And who's gonna hold her little hand? And who's gonna do....well, you know what When I'm down in that promised land Naughty boys...... BTW, anyone here know who it was that replaced Guard on banjo when he left? Cripes, now I've REALLY dated myself by admitting I know that stuff, but since Lisa done gone and outed me as a dyke anyways, what the hell.......... ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:02:02 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Cover of "Naive Melody" I know this has come up in the past... but on tonight's episode of "Judging Amy" they played a cover of Talking Heads' "Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place)", female vocal with guitar. Any clues? I did a doubletake seeing that Peter Himmelman did the score for the show. Not bad... - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:14:55 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Could someone identify this song? BTW, http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~davida/lyrics.html identifies "Hard Ain't It Hard" as being by none other than Woody Guthrie. - -- |> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:43:52 -0400 (EDT) From: tefinn@altavista.net Subject: Re: malecktolypse ---- you wrote: > > outside the jester-courts of the privi-Law, > names are owned by whosoever takes them, > words are made by whosoever uses them. > > each becomes in time what it is thought to be, > what it seems to be, and only in disuse, the > death-of-words, can the sane peace of purity be found. > > words may not be bound, with words, > no more than fire might be bound with fire. > > ask dear old Crowley, or any old skool hippie, punk or raver, > who has ever cried at what the scene had come to, > what dregs the Name had stretched to encompass, > who Judasciously denied their own, > for fear of the Label that the Name had become. > > ectophiles, > it seems to me, > are yet proud, > while we may yet be, > that our Name speaks of a Label gladly worn, > and ectofest, > it seems to me, > was a use-of-a-name, an event-in-the-scene, > i at least need not deny. > > -veronica > BRAVO! Tom - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:47:38 -0400 (EDT) From: tefinn@altavista.net Subject: Re: Could someone identify this song? ---- you wrote: > The original Kingston Trio (with Dave Guard) also did a rendition of > _Hard, Ain't It Hard_, as I believe it was called on one of their LPs, > back in the early 60s. And I recall that the second verse was > > Now who's gonna kiss her ruby lips? > And who's gonna hold her little hand? > And who's gonna do....well, you know what > When I'm down in that promised land > > Naughty boys...... BTW, anyone here know who it was that replaced > Guard > on banjo when he left? > > Cripes, now I've REALLY dated myself by admitting I know that stuff, but > since Lisa done gone and outed me as a dyke anyways, what the > hell.......... ;-) > > John Stewart replaced Dave Guard in 1961. Tom - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:55:41 PDT From: "Nick Nadel" Subject: one amazing show! I hope some of you were at Katell Keineg's show at Joe's Pub in NYC. It was truly amazing, she is incredible live, everyone should own Jet and O Seasons O Castles. And....Natalie Merchant and Susan Mckeown came out at the end and dueted with her! It was so incredible! Susan said she is playing a free concert on Layfette street on Saturday with eileen ivers. Katell is so sweet! She's coming back in November, everyone get her cds. I'm sure some of you were there, the place was bakced, I'm still glowing from it! - -nick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:28:40 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: Cover of "Naive Melody" >I know this has come up in the past... but on tonight's episode of >"Judging Amy" they played a cover of Talking Heads' "Naive Melody >(This Must Be the Place)", female vocal with guitar. Any clues? > Gotta be Shawn Colvin. She did a live solo version that knocked me out a few years ago, and it's also on her "Cover Girl" album. Great performance. - -- | Greg Dunn | don't open your eyes, you won't | | gregdunn@indy.net | like what you see. the blind | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | have been blessed with security. | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Trent Reznor | ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #325 **************************