From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #297 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, September 4 1999 Volume 05 : Number 297 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Personal sampler CD exchange and copyright [Dirk Kastens ] Something Urban ["Martin G Bridges" ] Re: Personal sampler CD exchange and copyright [Yngve Hauge ] Announcement: Early though why not :) [Yngve Hauge ] Announcement: Early though why not :) [Yngve Hauge ] cd player oddities [Greg Dunn ] Re: cd player oddities [Yngve Hauge ] FW: Personal sampler CD exchange and copyright ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Re: Lamb-Fear of Fours [neal copperman ] Re: cd player oddities [neal copperman ] I'll be there. I'll be ecto. [sae@zeus.cas.suffolk.edu (Acme Instant Dehy] 5.5 weeks and Good Morning America [Larne Pekowsky ] Re: Something Urban [Andrew Fries ] Paula Retort ["Spencer Lewis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 03:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Mary Lou Rowe (no Email address) ********************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mary Lou Rowe Sat September 03 1960 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 04 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 04 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Sharon Nichols - Terra Incognita Wed September 11 1963 Victim of Christianity Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:07:57 +0200 From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: Personal sampler CD exchange and copyright OK, I must admit that my statement about the copyright was a bit naive. As far as I know, it IS legal to make copies for your relatives and best friends in a very close sense. Offering these copies on a web page to the public would go much too far, of course. But the ecto tape dubbing project was running for several years without any problems, as far as I know. Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 07:13:44 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" Subject: Re: Lamb-Fear of Fours On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:56:12 -0400, neal copperman wrote: > np: Mississipi Nights - Dar Williams with Katryina and Nerissa Nields I have seen this on a number of np's. What is this, and where can it be obtained? For all those going to ecto fest, have a great time. Wish I could have made it. :-( Matt Bittner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:22:28 +1000 From: "Martin G Bridges" Subject: Something Urban Hi folks, Now that I'm down here in Sydney I'm starting to explore the local music scene. A friend introduced me to Something Urban, a local female-fronted band. The singer (Rachel Holmshaw) has a great voice and their material is pretty varied. I saw them live at the Harbourside Brasserie in Sydney a few weeks ago and they were great - not exactly charismatic or animated, but pretty interesting. I've since picked up their EP "Tonic For Henry" which is pretty good. In terms of style it's a bit difficult to pin them down. I've picked up hints of Ani DiFranco and Portishead in there, and there's an element of Aimee Mann which I quite like. Anyway, one to watch for our Australian friends, unlikely to be spotted anywhere lese just yet! Cheerio, Martin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:26:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Personal sampler CD exchange and copyright > OK, I must admit that my statement about the copyright was a bit > naive. As far as I know, it IS legal to make copies for your > relatives and best friends in a very close sense. Offering these > copies on a web page to the public would go much too far, of course. > But the ecto tape dubbing project was running for several > years without any problems, as far as I know. A way to do this is to set up a website with user and password access. Nothing hard to remember, but just so that it is there. That would give the impression of something closed to a group. One username and password for each subscriber is too much - only needed one for all. Just a thought. *hugs* - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:43:35 -0400 From: Gary Davis Subject: Re: Joy Askew/NYC At 01:55 AM 9/3/99 -0400, Suzanne Cerquone wrote: >It was interesting timing as I'm reading Peter Gabriel's authorized >biography, and during the chapter on the "Secret World" tour where Askew >played keyboard, it was noted that Gabriel really loved her female energy >added to the band, but the other band members (Tony Levin, David Rhodes and >Manu Khatche) didn't get along with her at all. I find that hard to >believe, especially since it seems Tony Levin loves to work with just about >anybody and everybody and doesn't seem to have one enemy! I think the >biographer screwed up, as he also said Askew was replaced by Paula Cole on >the American leg of the tour. I clearly remember both Askew and Cole at >the NYC show in '93. Or at least I remember a female keyboardist in >addition to Paula on vocals. I would have to agree with Suzanne's skepticism about those comments in the Gabriel biography. It really doesn't sound right. And if memory serves me correctly, I believe it was really Tony Levin who recommended her to Peter Gabriel in the first place! BTW, here's some info on other upcoming performances that Joy sent me. Note that the first one is just next week. Hopefully someone on the list will post a review. >I am playing at the Fez on a double bill w/ The Wild Colonials on Sept. 8th >at 9 PM. FEZ is on Lafayette street underneath the Time Cafe. I will be with >a full band and The Wild Colonials will have guests ( they know a lot of >people). >Sept. 24th is the date of the benefit for the victims of the Kosova war. At >the Bottom Line featuring again- myself with guests and also The Wild >Colonials. Also hoping to get other artists on the CD such as Vernon Reid and >Jennifer Kimball. >Thanks- talk to you soon - Joy Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:51:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Announcement: Early though why not :) Strangely enough - this was planned the time I had enough struggling to get the days to be long enough :) I had no idea the Ectofest was planned at all :) Ecto/Velvet Station Gathering in Norway July 2000 - ------------------------------------------------- As some of you remember - there were plans floating around in the fuzzyblueness for a gathering here in Norway this year, but things came in the way. This time I'm going to be early, and give people living far away the chance to come if they want to. What I need at this point is someone, who could give me a hand to get things organized. I'm going to invite the members of Velvet Belly, and I'm sure they will come (might even trick them into doing an accoustic set, cause that is something I've wanted to hear for ages :). Where? Flekkeroeya outside Kristiansand When? First or second week of July 2000 Other info? It will be in connection with the Quart Festival, so hopefully alot of great music involved. I'll post more info as soon as there is some. And I seriously hope as many people as possible will have the possibility to come. I'll do my best to make this a nice happening, though topping the Ectofest would not be possible. Sadly enough I couldn't afford to go to the Ectofest. I hope all of you attending is going to have a wonderful time. - -- Yngve n.p. Jarboe - Sacrificial Cake n.r. Melanie Rawn - Exiles II ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:50:44 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Lamb-Fear of Fours On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 12:56:12AM -0400, neal copperman wrote: > The disc in question is the first Lamb disc, that pre-dates Fear of Fours. > I didn't know what listening options we had in Jeff's car, but I was going > to toss in my copy since it was such a hot item of discussion right now. Cool. I've grabbed a handfull of CDs for the journey too. See you in a few hours! - -- |> "The only thing that is not art is inattention" --- Marcel Duchamp <| | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt | | Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt | | Comma: Voices of New Music Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:44:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Announcement: Early though why not :) Strangely enough - this was planned the time I had enough struggling to get the days to be long enough :) I had no idea the Ectofest was planned at all :) Ok, here we go : Ecto/Velvet Station Gathering in Norway July 2000 As some of you remember - there were plans floating around in the fuzzyblueness for a gathering here in Norway this year, but things came in the way. This time I'm going to be early, and give people living far away the chance to come if they want to. What I need at this point is someone, who could give me a hand to get things organized. I'm going to invite the members of Velvet Belly, and I'm sure they will come (might even trick them into doing an accoustic set, cause that is something I've wanted to hear for ages :). Where? Flekkeroeya outside Kristiansand When? First or second week of July 2000 Other info? It will be in connection with the Quart Festival, so hopefully alot of great music involved. I'll post more info as soon as there is some. And I seriously hope as many people as possible will have the possibility to come. I'll do my best to make this a nice happening, though topping the Ectofest would not be possible. Sadly enough I couldn't afford to go to the Ectofest. I hope all of you attending is going to have a wonderful time. - -- Yngve n.p. Jarboe - Sacrificial Cake n.r. Melanie Rawn - Exiles II ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:36:23 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: cd player oddities I have recently come across a pair of odd events related to CD players and was wondering if anyone could provide any enlightenment about them. 1. CD-R's sound crummy in my car. I have only tried two, from different sources, but they both sound staticy. They sound fine when I bring them into the house, but they sound bad enough to make them unlistenable in the car. (Car player is fairly old, at least 7, but plays everything else fine.) 2. My parents recently got one of those Bose waveform radio/cd things, and found that it refuses to play one of their cd's. I told them that isn't unheard of for a certain model of cd player to occasionally reject a specific disc, maybe cause it's minutely out of range on something (weight, balance, bit errors in a spot that it just can't deal with), but told them the cd would almost definitely play if they popped it into their computer. Well, it didn't play there either. So, I brought it home with me, and it played on both of my stereos and in my computer. Thoughts? (Is it location specific? Advances in CD technology have created CD's that cannot be played in Arlington, but work fine in Baltimore?) Car trouble made my trip to Iota a moot point last night, as Mary Jane Lamond never did show up. neal np: Black Canvas - Project Lo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:04:03 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Dunn Subject: cd player oddities "neal copperman said:" > > 1. CD-R's sound crummy in my car. I have only tried two, from different Did you record them, or someone else? I've found that CDRs burned at 4x or faster rarely play on my audio CD players. Apparently they're close enough to the limit of the spec that some CD players just give up and trip the mute switch occasionally. I have at least one CDR that crackles because the mute is cycling constantly on one of my players. They play fine on my computer CD drives. > location specific? Advances in CD technology have created CD's that cannot > be played in Arlington, but work fine in Baltimore?) Could be temperature/humidity related. It wouldn't take much expansion or contraction of the CD or player mechanism to exceed spec if it's already on the hairy edge... just my $.02 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:06:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: cd player oddities > 1. CD-R's sound crummy in my car. I have only tried two, from different > sources, but they both sound staticy. They sound fine when I bring them > into the house, but they sound bad enough to make them unlistenable in the > car. (Car player is fairly old, at least 7, but plays everything else > fine.) I've had problems with this with old CD-players. They don't seem to read more than a bit into the CDs before starting to make funny noises and in the end being unlistenable. By old I don't mean very old, but from before the time of the raise of CD-burners. - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:35:12 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: FW: Personal sampler CD exchange and copyright >> A way to do this is to set up a website with user and password access. Nothing hard to remember, but just so that it is there. That would give the impression of something closed to a group. One username and password for each subscriber is too much - only needed one for all. Just a thought. Or, don't post the actual song *titles* on the web. Post other information about your collection, the date, the artists, the theme if you had one. Interested parties can email for the specifics, or "be surprised". I won't purport to know the actual legal ramifications of all this, but I'd tend to agree with those who say legal or not, record companies just can't be bothered with a handful of "illicit" copies coming from or going to people who don't have much money to be sued out of. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:26:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Re: Neile's June & July Acquisitions Hi all, An overload of work prevented me from being very active on ecto lately but, as usual, most of my recent CD acquisitions came from the list. The one I thought I should write something about is Kym Brown's _Pygmalion_. I had a problem with this CD. Since I received it two weeks ago I played it in loop for hours and hours and still couldn'd find exactly what I found so fascinating, what made me want to press the play button again as soon as the player stopped. Her voice is fantastic but not really original, her music is hard to classify but you can find some comparisons, as Meth, Neile or Mike did. And then suddenly, it struck me: she uses usual components but in a completly unusual way. Let me elaborate a little: we, ectophiles, have as a common characteristic listening to lost and lots of music belonging to various styles, just look at the ectoguide for proofs. I know that if I wasn't on ecto I would still be listening to Kate Bush but would have missed Veda, Diamanda Galas, Jane Siberry or, of course, Happy. Listening to all this gave me, and I guess you too, some "habits": during a song I can feel what will be coming next. Not only from a purely musical point of view, like a chords progression, but also in the treatment of sound, production techniques, change of rythm,... It's not really a conscious thing, it's just something you feel. Of course it doesn't always work (thanks god!) but most of the time it is pretty accurate. Do a test, listen to a top 40 radio for 10 minutes (yes, you can dot it! :-) ) and you will see what I mean. Kym is the first artist in years with who it doesn't work at all. She looks like she wants to go somewhere and then goes in a completly different direction but in a soft way, it never feels strange or wrong. At the end of the song you are at the point you knew you would reach but the journey wasn't a straight line, you took many turns and curves. The amazing thing is that it still works after 50 listens, I am still not used to it. It is a very strange and disorienting feeling, like being in a familiar forest and unable to find the path you know is very close. I love it. I won't do a song by song review of the album because her music is hard to describe. The names that come to mind when I listen to her are Bjork (clear voice, use of electronic, calm and not-so-calm melodies), Elysian Fields (the second song _Milk and plenty_ could be from _Bleed your cedar_[1], with the same sexually moist atmosphere) and of course Portishead; and, to a lesser degree, Massive Attack, for the triphop sound of most songs. I agree with Mike that it starts stronger than it ends but it starts so strongly that it doesn't really matter. The first four songs are incredible, classics at the first listen. I stated some of her influences above but they don't really describe these songs, you have to listen them to see what I am talking about. In the middle there is a song I can't stand. It is so predictable (_Blue Box_), it really sounds cliché. Coming after the four previous jewels it does a terrible effect. The songs after are a little more familiar, halfway between ambient and triphop with little bits of pop. It ends with a remix, house-oriented but still listenable. Album of the year for me so far, no contest. I won't promise you you will like this CD, but I can bet you will be surprised if you give it a try: just listen to the samples on her website [2], play _Hollowmen_ and _ETA_ and enjoy. [1] I can imagine Jennifer Charles singing "I want to suck your cane" too. :-) [2] To conclude, I wish you, all lucky fellows who will attend Ectofest, a great weekend. I wish I could be there, maybe next year. Say Mila I'm sorry. :-) I am seriously considering flying to Einburgh to see her there though. Best, - -- Yves. n.p.: do I really need to tell? :-) n.r.: Jim Harrison _Legends of the fall_ (I have almost finished reading all Jim Harrison books. He's one of the most humane writers I have ever read, really beautiful) PS: Happy Birthday Meth! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:02:24 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: 5.5 weeks;ectofest Saw the Tori/Alanis show in Saratoga Sunday night, and wanted to agree with Meredith's observations: Tori was great, Alanis didn't suck, and the crowd was respectful and enthusiastic for both artists. If anything, there was a smattering of empty seats during Alanis. Being the late act on a Sunday night show could have been a factor though. I especially liked the backdrop of Alanis' stage, a semicircular set of panels that looked like a web of tree branches. There was a projection screen behind it, and the panels slid open to fully expose the videos. I'd like one of those for my living room. Think Home Depot carries 'em? (kidding, kidding) I get the Danbury News Times and was happy to see write ups about Ectofest in Thursday's and today's papers. Mostly straight copy probably provided by Chuck or Meredith, today's "Hear Ye" column did add a snippet of quotation from Meredith herself. Looking forward to this fest. Trying to get some of the hayseeds I know around here to go, without a lot of success, they don't know the acts, of course. I may further bombard myself with lovely voices Sat night by going to a club in Naugatuck to see Sweeter Than Wine play. Hope to meet some of you there. I may be wearing a grey Crack the Sky cap - I know, not very ectoish but sorry, I don't have many hats. Hope to scarf a fuzzy blue one there, but that won't help identify me, will it? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:22:23 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Lamb-Fear of Fours At 7:13 AM -0500 9/3/99, Matt Bittner wrote: >On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:56:12 -0400, neal copperman wrote: > >> np: Mississipi Nights - Dar Williams with Katryina and Nerissa Nields > >I have seen this on a number of np's. What is this, and where can it be >obtained? Well, actually, you have only seen it on one np - mine. Though I jabber on enough that it is excusable to think that a lot of people are listening to it :) It's a very nice bootleg made by Bob Kollmeyer in April of last year. (Can I say that? Is it too late to ask?) It's from a place called Mississipi Nights in St Louis. I'm perfectly happy to make tapes. neal np: Black Canvas - Project Lo nr: The Pilot's Wife - Anita Shreve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:39:06 -0400 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: cd player oddities At 11:04 AM -0500 9/3/99, Greg Dunn wrote: >"neal copperman said:" >> >> 1. CD-R's sound crummy in my car. I have only tried two, from different > >Did you record them, or someone else? I've found that CDRs burned at 4x or >faster rarely play on my audio CD players. I don't have a CDR, so I can't experiment, and so obviously didn't record them myself. One was the "official" "Who Will Save The World?" bootleg from Cindy Lee Berryhill. I know she just went in to Kinko's and had them burn it for her. No idea what speeds they did it at. The other was a trade. >> location specific? Advances in CD technology have created CD's that cannot >> be played in Arlington, but work fine in Baltimore?) > >Could be temperature/humidity related. It wouldn't take much expansion or >contraction of the CD or player mechanism to exceed spec if it's already >on the hairy edge... just my $.02 I was kidding on that part :) I doni't think the temperature is much different in my parents apartment versus mine. In fact, mine is usually hotter and more humid, since I'm not opposed to opening my windows. (My parents are actually opposed to opening their BLINDS, let alone their windows.) Anyway, glad to know others have had similar experiences with the CDR's. neal still playing Project Lo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:33:12 -0400 From: sae@zeus.cas.suffolk.edu (Acme Instant Dehydrated Boulder Kit) Subject: I'll be there. I'll be ecto. Most of you probably don't remember me, but I used to be on ecto back in 92-93. Just wanted to say greetings to those of you that I do know, and also to tell you that I'll be at the ectofest on saturday! Since I'm not spending the night I won't be able to stay too late at the post-concert party, but I will definitely show up for the early part of it. My friend Caroline who is still subscribing to ecto occasionally forwards me messages which she thinks would be of interest. Today she forwarded me an especially interesting one - a birthday note for Mary Lou Rowe. Mary's been off ecto for a while now too, so chances are there are only a half-dozen people who remember her. But if you do know her, you might want to know that she is now truly a cosmic vagabond, she's not awake and she's not asleep. She's crossed that flaming threshold. MaryLou was a very dear friend of mine, who I met through this very mailing list a loooong time ago. I have a heart-wrenching e-mail which describes her last days, and I can send it to anyone else who knew her and wants to know more about her. You can see a picture of her at the Montreal EctoFest of 92? at this URL: http://cartan.cas.suffolk.edu/~sae/ef1.jpg. From left to right they are: Angelos (bottom), Mike M. (murphy or mendelsohn, can't remember), Justin Bur, Liz Warwick (lying down) Tim Breitkowitz (sorry if i misspelled that), Me, and MaryLou. Anyway, see you on saturday! --alan - -- Alan Ezust Cambridge, MA USA http://www.brainwashed.com/ezust ezust@brainwashed.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cure the soul by means of the senses, and cure the senses by means of the soul. - Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:43:41 -0400 From: Larne Pekowsky Subject: 5.5 weeks and Good Morning America I was also at the Jones Beach show on Wednesday, and had a fine time all around. I don't have much to add to the comments that have already been posted. I first saw Tori at a tiny club in New Orleans shortly after "Little Earthquakes" came out, and it never ceases to amaze me that she can bring some of the same magic to such a huge venue. A wonderful performance, marred only by two noisy bloodsacks next to me who talked through a large portion of the set. I would say Alanis did far better than simply not sucking. I've heard both her albums a number of times, and own the second. While there are songs, and bits of songs, on both that I really like, she somehow never managed to really make an impact. But this show could make me a fan. She and her band rocked, and managed to add some sparkle to songs that I had previously found simply uninteresting. The kind of sparkle that carries over to the next time you hear the albums. I would definitely fork over the money to see her next NY show. My one gripe with the evening (apart from givens like the $9 refreshments) was that there was no concert merchandise featuring both Tori and Alanis. It's as if the promoters want to make it seem as much as possible like two completely unrelated shows. While I didn't notice any open hostilities between the two camps, I didn't see a great deal of overlap either. Is there really no one who likes them both? Apart from the two of them, that is (Alanis refered to Tori as a SuperGoddess during her set.) Oh, and the other gripe was the train ride home on the LIRR. Despite the fact that the train had something like 10 cars they seemed to only open 3 of them. Needless to say, we were packed in pretty tight. The potentially dangerous situation was diffused at one point by a guy pulling out a harmonica and doing a few bars of the bit from "Hand In My Pocket." Merriment ensued. I also made it to this morning's free Tori concert in Central Park. I got there around 5:45, Not surprisingly, there was already a sizeable line waiting to go into the fountain area when I got there. This line didn't move much over the next two hours, as presumably the Good Morning America crew set up the cameras. At about 7:30 the band members came on stage to do their sound check. I've never seen one of these before, it was a fairly interesting process. Tori came on at about 8, chatted with the audience a bit, and then they ran through "Crucify" twice. There were some sound problems, and apparently there was some talk of not doing a complete broadcast, but it all seemed to work out. Around 8:30 they went live, the Good Morning America folks said some clueless, inane things, and Tori did "Crucify" again (So if Meth was there, this would make #8557...) Then the almost lifelike GMA guy announced it as "Crucify, from the new album 'To Venus and Back'" (geeze, is research really that hard?) and they cut to a commercial. When they came back they interviewed Tori for a bit, which due to aforementioned sound problems the audience couldn't hear (I assume the folks at home got it fine). Tori then did "Bliss" then closed GMA with "Cornflake Girl," and finished up with another song from the new album I don't know. Yup, that was it, four songs. Still, it was worth it if for no other reason than I was standing about 30 feet away from Tori, which has only happened once before, and will probably never happen again. All in all, it was a good, if short, time. - Larne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:46:49 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: I'll be there. I'll be ecto. I only met Mary Lou once, but we had a wonderful day together, and she is the person who sparked me to start up The Ectophiles' Guide--it was an idea we cooked up together, but that she didn't have time to help me follow through with. I remember hearing her sing Tori's "Leather" with her boyfriend on guitar accompanying her pretty damn good vocals. She was the first person to tell me that I _had_ to read Jonathan Carroll's _Sleeping in Flames_. (I obeyed her.) I've been wondering what was going on with her and hoping she'd pop up again on ecto someday. I'm very sorry that she won't. Well, damn. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:47:34 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Something Urban On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Martin G Bridges wrote: >Now that I'm down here in Sydney I'm starting to explore the local music >scene. A friend introduced me to Something Urban, a local female-fronted >band. The singer (Rachel Holmshaw) has a great voice and their material is >pretty varied. I saw them live at the Harbourside Brasserie in Sydney a few >weeks ago and they were great - not exactly charismatic or animated, but >pretty interesting. I've since picked up their EP "Tonic For Henry" which is >pretty good. In terms of style it's a bit difficult to pin them down. I've >picked up hints of Ani DiFranco and Portishead in there, and there's an >element of Aimee Mann which I quite like. I was suprised to read about an unknown band from Sydney in a post by anyone else but myself :) But yes, Something Urban are pretty good. In a case of synchronicity I just picked up their EP at the record shop today... the core of the band are Rachel and Gavin, with the other musicians seemingly only semi-permanent - Rachel and Gavin often perform as a duo, but still calling themselves Something Urban. The EP on the other hand is recorded in the full band mode. I'm playing it now, and I really like it so far. Mellow yet varied, very good voice... and yes, there are echoes of Ani DiFranco on the first track, but not really on the rest of the record. The track I'm playing at the moment seems to have quite a jazzy feel to it. In fact, Rachel's vocals sometimes remind me of Gemma previously from Cactus Child, now appearing solo around Sydney - Martin, you might want to check her out, too... - ------------------------------------------------------ 62,400 repetitions make one truth. - Aldous Huxley - ------ http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 01:00:58 -0400 From: "Spencer Lewis" Subject: Paula Retort Well what do you people want, for an artist to sing the same shit day after day, year after year? Haven't even heard the albums yet and they have gone utterly insane. as for the intolerant nature of you message, montana awaits if you want. sl > From: "JoAnn Whetsell" > Subject: Re: new Paula Cole/Indigo Girls > > Ah, I'm catching up on my messages. Well, from the sounds of it, I think > I'm now mostly dreading these 2 new albums. Have these 3 people gone > utterly insane? > > My sister says Paula needs to dump the black boyfriend and go back to her > white roots. > > I guess time will tell, but for right now at least, I think I'll probably > agree. > > JoAnn ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #297 **************************