From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #152 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, April 30 1999 Volume 05 : Number 152 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Beth Orton is coming! [neal copperman ] miscellaneous [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell)] Re: The Moon is a Ballon [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: _Night Flight_ and _Midnight Special_ [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry wh] Re: night flight, midnight special [dave ] Re: The rantings of a lunatic Peter Gabriel fan [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: Night Music [jjh969@juno.com] Re: Lycia [larnep@pathfinder.com] Re: miscellaneous [Leon van Stuivenberg ] More on Ingrid Karklins ["Mickey Ferguson" ] Re: More on Ingrid Karklins [Neile Graham ] Re: miscellaneous ["Bill" ] Sinead Lohan (was Re: miscellaneous) [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: miscellaneous/Sinead Lohan [Bill Adler ] Where is "harmony (?ridge?)" music? [Richard Holmes ] Re: Where is "harmony (?ridge?)" music? [Carolyn Andre ] Melting CDs [Bill Adler ] Stairway to remake--not ["Mitchell A. Pravatiner" ] Dead Can Dance lyric request fro Ectophiles' Guide [Neile Graham ] Re: Uncle Bonsai rides again! [neal copperman ] RE: Melting CDs [neal copperman ] Re: Melting CDs [Jeffrey Burka ] new music [joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell)] Discs for sale/trade at Ecto Trading Post [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:42:51 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Beth Orton is coming! At 1:10 AM -0400 4/29/99, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: >...to a web browser near you! I just e-mailed the entry to Neile, so if >someone can tell her or me the producer for Best Bit EP, it should be ready >soon. There are 3 producers credited for the album: Youth, Henry Olsen, Dr Robert neal now shuffling over: Senor Blues - Taj Mahal The Legend - Tito Puente Who Do You Think I Am - Sinead Lohan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:22:38 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: miscellaneous Speaking of Sinead Lohan, I was thinking of ordering _No Mermaid_, but was hesitant without hearing sound samples. Can anyone give more info on her voice, etc? Edie Brickell-- I nominate her for the guide, but don't have any album info for her to do a page. I think I'll nominate hubby Paul Simon too while I'm at it. np: the sound of silence, literally, not the album ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:40:50 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: The Moon is a Ballon Vickie, Don't miss "Bring On the Empty Horses", also by David Niven, full of more of the same. Cecil B de Mille wanted riderless horses to cross the scene and yelled, "Bring on the empty horses" and Niven and other extras all broke up laughing. KrW "Yes, it left a great gaping hole in the water!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:48:06 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: _Night Flight_ and _Midnight Special_ I remember seeing Shawn Phillips on Midnight Special, the >only< time I ever saw him. I also remember seeing FireSign Theatre's Case of The Missing Yolks video, which I have never found since. KrW "Yes, it left a great gaping hole in the water!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 04:19:10 -0400 From: dave Subject: Re: night flight, midnight special Chelsea wrote: > >Would any historically-minded Ectophiles mind helping me out with some info > >on live-music TV shows of yore? The two I'm thinking of in particular are > >_Midnight Special_ (which aired in the 1970s, hosted by Wolfman Jack and > >produced by Don somebody, recently revived on VH-1) and _Night Flight_ > >(aired on USA in the early 80s, no info on hosts or format except that they > >were more punk-minded). In particular, I'm interested in which one would > >be more likely to feature a new wave/punk band along the lines of Blondie > >or the Waitresses, and where the shows were shot. > Meth added: > I think Night Flight would be your best bet. Heck, they were the ones to > feature KaTe Bush back in the day ... > > Still deploring the fact that I grew up in a Land Without Cable and thus > missed great shows like Night Flight, I seem to remember that the Midnight Special was mainly live performances, while Night Flight was videos. If you'd grown up in Philly you could've seen Night Flight on regular old TV, although you'd have to stay up rather late. I remember seeing Lone Justice on it, and there was something similar to Power Rangers. Then there was Don Kirchner's Rock Concert and my favorite, Mel's Rock Pile. np:Carolyn Arends - this much I understand - -- +-----------------------------------------------+ + dave + + Visit Sideshow Bob's House of Wax and Waffles + + Female vocalists, Christian, and Polish music + + -=-=- and the fabulous Kasia Kowalska -=-=- + + http://magpage.com/~sspan/ + +-----------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:06:19 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: The rantings of a lunatic Peter Gabriel fan Vickie writes: << Read it and fear for Peter's safety. This man is also currently in alt.music.peter-gabriel claiming that Peter condones the Littleton massacre. (I read the threads via Deja News). >> This is scary. It reminds me of letters I received from delusional inmates at a local penitentiary when I had a radio show; very detailed, well thought-out, seemingly lucid, and portraying themselves as the ultimate victim...and absolutely nuts. I remember thinking many times wishing that I hadn't used my real name. And yes...I fear for Peter's safety, too. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:06:25 -0500 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: Re: Night Music Reruns on BET ?!?! Now I'm sad I don't bend my knee to the cable Gods. Easily one of my all time favorite T.V. shows. It's swift demise testament to American taste or lack thereof. Where else could you see the Kronos Quartet on the tube ? What other show would have Elliot Sharp backing up the Staple Singers on a rockin rendition of "Take Me To The River" or Sanborn playing "Pretty Woman" simultaneously with John Zorn bleating out his extra skronky version of Ornett Coleman's "Lonely Woman" ? Had it been on PBS rather than network T.V. perhaps it would have survived. - --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Zitt On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 11:33:08AM -0400, Thief Catcher wrote: > Also, what was that live-music show called _Night Music_ from the late 80s? > David Johanson (I think, short Max Weinberg-esque sax player) hosted it, > and the episode I have features Syd Straw, Sun Ra, and the Pixies. Any > help there? Possibly the greatest music show ever on American TV. It ran for two seasons on NBC *very* late on Sunday night. (IIRC, the first season it was name "Sunday Night"). The hosts were David Sanborn (not Johanson, who was the punk/glam star later known as Buster Poindexter) and, in the first season, ... uh... a rather twee British pianist who tried too hard to be funny. The mixes of guests were amazing: Charlie Haden with Nick Cave, Sonny Rollins with Leonard Cohen, and others, including The Residents and John Zorn. The good news is that the BET on Jazz cable network is rerunning it daily. - --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: larnep@pathfinder.com Subject: Re: Lycia ladyhawk@anv.net (Kristen Weissleader) wrote: > Is anybody familiar with Lycia? I have "Estrella" and "Cold," and saw them live at last year's Projektfest in NYC. Where they were quite wonderful, by the way. > I bought a few of their cds recently. The > most currently released, "Estrella", has a female vocalist on some of the > songs, I think she joined the group on that cd. Tara VanFlower also appeared on "Cold" and I think a couple of tracks on "The Burning Circle and then Dust." > guitar sounds on this cd. It's beautiful and dark in tone. There is a man > that also does vocals in a kind of speak-sing way that gets a little > irritating Mike (whos last name I can't seem to find) has been accused of having a generic spooky-gothic-growl kind of voice. Personally I don't mind, although I do tends to prefer Tara's tracks. But then, I tend to prefer female vocals in general. > should buy these...if anyone is more familiar with them perhaps they could > recommend something. Thumbs up for "Cold." You might also like some of the other bands on the Projekt label, check out Love Spirals Downwards and Black Tape for a Blue Girl. I also cant stop listening to Voltaire's "The Devil's Bris." It's decidedly non-ecto, but the music is excellent and it's funny as, erm, hell. On an only somewhat related note, I just thought I'd mention that I won a free advance copy of Switchblade Symphony's newest, "The Three Calamities," and I'm seeing them live next week. Yay! - Larne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:04:29 +0200 From: Leon van Stuivenberg Subject: Re: miscellaneous JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > Speaking of Sinead Lohan, I was thinking of ordering _No Mermaid_, but was > hesitant without hearing sound samples. Can anyone give more info on her > voice, etc? Slightly accented, soft yet powerful crystalline voice. 'no mermaid' leans towards pop, electronic with samples, electric guitars, and significant presence of drums. 'who do you think i am' has more of a country/acoustic/sweet feel to it. I can recommend both albums, but the earlier one ('who do..') can be expensive when imported. A trade might be an option, or a bit of help from a friend across the ocean. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:10:01 -0500 From: "Mickey Ferguson" Subject: More on Ingrid Karklins Thanks to Neile, I've been scouring back issues of the Austin Chronicle looking for reviews and news of upcoming performances. I found this write-up which I must have missed last year: http://www.auschron.com/issues/vol17/issue45/music.karklins.html And, also the review of "Red Hand" by Louis Black here: http://www.auschron.com/issues/vol17/issue45/music.karklins.side.html - ---Mickey Austin TX USA n.p. Soundtrack to "The Hanging Garden" n.r. _Galapagos_, Vonnegut ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:22:54 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: More on Ingrid Karklins I'll have to forward those to the Passion list. Don't forget to check out http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/guide.cgi?artists/karklins.ingrid for the ecto comments! - --Neile At 2:10 PM -0500 4/29/99, Mickey Ferguson wrote: >Thanks to Neile, I've been scouring back issues of the Austin Chronicle >looking for reviews and news of upcoming performances. > >I found this write-up which I must have missed last year: >http://www.auschron.com/issues/vol17/issue45/music.karklins.html > >And, also the review of "Red Hand" by Louis Black here: >http://www.auschron.com/issues/vol17/issue45/music.karklins.side.html > >---Mickey >Austin TX USA > >n.p. Soundtrack to "The Hanging Garden" >n.r. _Galapagos_, Vonnegut - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:50:21 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: miscellaneous On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:22:38 -0400 (EDT), JoAnn Whetsell wrote: >Speaking of Sinead Lohan, I was thinking of ordering _No Mermaid_, but was >hesitant without hearing sound samples. Can anyone give more info on her >voice, etc? I purchased NO MERMAID just after sampling it at a listening station; there were enough good tunes in that album, actually enough "loves at first hearing", that I picked it up right away, and have had no regrets. In fact, track 2, "don't I know", has been one of my top favorite tunes ever since. NO MERMAID is definitely a worthy pruchase. >Edie Brickell-- I nominate her for the guide, but don't have any album >info for her to do a page. I think I'll nominate hubby Paul Simon too >while I'm at it. The CDROM distribution of Microsoft Windows95 contained in the "extras" folder of the installation CDROM a video of Edie's "good times bad times", and here again, I was mesmerised enough by this video and tune to rush out and find the disc. At the time I had no clue who Edie Brickell was, but, as with Sinead Lohan, Edie's "good times bad times" tune has become one of my favorites. Some people that I have talked to who are familiar with Edie's earlier works seem to like the earlier work better, under the premise of "less pop, more rock"; but to me her later stuff is definately more ectoish, even if a bit more poppish that the earlier stuff. GOOD TIMES BAD TIMES is also a worthy buy. - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:42:38 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Sinead Lohan (was Re: miscellaneous) JoAnn asks: << Speaking of Sinead Lohan, I was thinking of ordering _No Mermaid_, but was hesitant without hearing sound samples. Can anyone give more info on her voice, etc? >> I have it, and I have to second the opinions of the other posts. While there may be nothing that jumps out and knocks you down on first listen, it's certainly pleasant. I'd have to say that it's a "grows on you" disc, though. The songs, which are simple and unpretentious, become more individual with each listening. Her voice is soft and straightforward--no annoying affectations. While her "Irish" shows through in her singing, it's not Celtic in feel really. More like Sinead O'Connor's softer work, maybe? I find the disc lyrically intelligent, too. Not in an intellectual way, but she seems to have a way of saying things that makes you think she is an old soul. In a nutshell, there is nothing here that most would find annoying or offensive, but some have found it a bit tame. Personally, I like it and would give it a thumbs up. hth...Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:30:00 -0400 From: Bill Adler Subject: Re: miscellaneous/Sinead Lohan JoAnn, I have both Sinead Lohan CDs, No Mermaid and Who Do You Think I Am. But then again, I'm partial to musicians from the British Isles ;). Both are excellent CDs, with songs about life, love and emotions. Her voice has an powerful, aerobatic quality to it, but it is luxurious, as well. I like that you can easily understand the words to her songs. (You don't have to sit there reading along with the liner notes.) Although Sinead Lohan heralds from Ireland, there's very little of anything traditionally Irish in her music: it's more edgy pop sounding with an Irish accent. Amazon.com has both CDs. - --Bill n.p. Sloan Wainwright, From Where You Are At 02:22 AM 4/29/99 -0400, you wrote: >Speaking of Sinead Lohan, I was thinking of ordering _No Mermaid_, but was >hesitant without hearing sound samples. Can anyone give more info on her >voice, etc? > > Bill Adler badler@csi.com http://www.adlerbooks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:28:14 -0700 From: Richard Holmes Subject: Where is "harmony (?ridge?)" music? Hi, Someone on this list has a website which sells ecto music and for a bit of time here I've been trying to find the site again. Web searches and guesses do not help. There was Magdalen Hsu-Li and Sinead Lohan and lots of other great artists. Please post the URL again!!! Thanks! - -Richard (rholmes@ccrma.stanford.edu) PS I think it was harmony ridge -- but web searches didn't show this up... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Subject: Re: Where is "harmony (?ridge?)" music? Harmony Ridge Music is at: http://www.hrmusic.com/ - - Bill G. On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Richard Holmes wrote: > > Hi, > > Someone on this list has a website which sells ecto music and for > a bit of time here I've been trying to find the site again. Web searches > and guesses do not help. There was Magdalen Hsu-Li and Sinead Lohan > and lots of other great artists. Please post the URL again!!! > > Thanks! > > -Richard (rholmes@ccrma.stanford.edu) > > PS I think it was harmony ridge -- but web searches didn't show this > up... > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:41:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: Where is "harmony (?ridge?)" music? On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Richard Holmes wrote: > Someone on this list has a website which sells ecto music and for > a bit of time here I've been trying to find the site again. Web searches > and guesses do not help. There was Magdalen Hsu-Li and Sinead Lohan > and lots of other great artists. Please post the URL again!!! > > PS I think it was harmony ridge -- but web searches didn't show this > up... yep - you had the name right - its Jack Sutton's Harmony Ridge Music http://www.hrmusic.com Regards, | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet Carolyn | Carolyn's House of Music: webmaster@house-of-music.com | http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:46:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Subject: Alla Kadysh Does anyone have any recommendations on Alla Kadysh? I found her at the Harmony Ridge Music site (one thing surely leads to another), and now I am curious. Thankee. - - Bill G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:00:00 -0400 From: Bill Adler Subject: Melting CDs Does anyone know whether it's safe to keep CDs in cars during the summer? I have one of those visor CD-holders and I'd hate to have my music melt. I live in Washinton, DC, where it can get pretty hot. Thanks! - --Bill n.p. October Project, Falling Farther In Bill Adler Adler & Robin Books Literary Agency 3000 Connecticut Ave., N.W. Washington, DC 20008 202-986-9275 Fax: 202-986-9485 badler@adlerbooks.com backup email: badler@csi.com http://www.adlerbooks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:33:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Subject: Stairway to remake--not _Heaven Can Wait_ with Warren Beatty was not a remake of _A Matter of Life and Death_/Stairway to Heaven_, as was posited in these pages recently, but of _Here Comes Mr. Jordan_ with Robert Montgomery, which was made sometime in the 1940's. Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:17:09 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: RE: Melting CDs I would think it is not safe. Early CDs had a page of proper care information, and one of the warnings was Keep Away from Heat. CDRs and CDRWs still come with such a page. A Ricoh sleeve I happen to have handy says 122 degrees F max. That, and avoid direct sunshine. Cars get upwards of 140 degrees in direct sun. CDs are mostly plastic, and when plastic gets warm its more likely to warp. I have a visibly warped CD-ROM that my computer could not read to install. Luckily I was able to get it to read sequentially to make a CDR copy, which installed OK. This is why I never wanted a CD player for my car, the temptation to (or necessity of) leaving them there and warping them is too great. Although now that I can make copies on CDR media for a buck or two, I might reconsider. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bill Adler Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 7:00 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Melting CDs Does anyone know whether it's safe to keep CDs in cars during the summer? I have one of those visor CD-holders and I'd hate to have my music melt. I live in Washinton, DC, where it can get pretty hot. Thanks! - --Bill n.p. October Project, Falling Farther In Bill Adler Adler & Robin Books Literary Agency 3000 Connecticut Ave., N.W. Washington, DC 20008 202-986-9275 Fax: 202-986-9485 badler@adlerbooks.com backup email: badler@csi.com http://www.adlerbooks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:12:02 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Dead Can Dance lyric request fro Ectophiles' Guide Hey, all-- The following request came in to The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music address. Can anyone help? Thanks! - --Neile n.p. Duke Ellington, _Black, Brown and Beige_ n.r. (just finished actually, even though my eyes are still dilated from a trip to the eyedoctor) Sean Stewart's _The Night Watch_. Damn, he's good. >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:03:45 -0400 (EDT) >Reply-to: "Jorge Silva" >From: "Jorge Silva" >To: ectoguide@smoe.org >Subject: Ectophiles' Guide - Artist Request > >The Ectophiles' Guide contact form has been filled out. Here is the >information entered: > >Topic: Artist Request > >Name: Jorge Silva >Email: whitch@latinmail.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >hello!! >your page is very interesting, i will talk of there to my friends... >ah! can you send me the lyrics of the song: rakim, for the album towards >the within of dead can dance ,please!? > >i hope that your request will be quickly... > >thanks!!! a lot >good bye > >see ya!! > >Jorge can dance... > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >SERVER DATE: 99-04-29 >SERVER TIME: 19:03:45 >REMOTE HOST: unknown >REMOTE ADDRESS: 146.83.180.32 >BROWSER: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (Win95; I ;Nav) > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:02:35 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Uncle Bonsai rides again! Hey Mitch (and any other Uncle-Bonsai musiclovers): Uncle Bonsai has a new disc! It's called _Doug_ and is a collection of songs about a guy named Doug. I haven't heard it yet, but there are lyrics on their web page at http://members.aol.com/ytrecords/ub.html and maybe some samples? (There are a bunch of real audio samples at http://members.aol.com/ubonsai/index.html which I haven't explored.) There's also an upcoming disc of previously unreleased songs this summer, and they're giving two concerts here in Seattle May 7 & 8. It sounds as though the band now consists of the original three members and The Mel Cooleys. Anyway, anyone who enjoys humorous harmonic music should check them out! They're wacky and the sound is fun, too. - --Neile n.p. Caterwaul, _Killer Fish_ Yum! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:32:55 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Uncle Bonsai rides again! At 8:02 PM -0700 4/29/99, Neile Graham wrote: >Uncle Bonsai has a new disc! It's called _Doug_ and is a collection of >songs about a guy named Doug. I haven't heard it yet, but there are lyrics >on their web page at http://members.aol.com/ytrecords/ub.html and maybe >some samples? (There are a bunch of real audio samples at >http://members.aol.com/ubonsai/index.html which I haven't explored.) Wow, very cool. Uncle Bonsai are a blast. Good to hear they are doing stuff together again. The Doug suite has been around for a long time though. On Myn Ynd Wymyn, they have the song Doug at his Mom's, and talk about some of the other Doug songs. I don't have that with me, so I can't verify what made up the Doug Suite back then. (This was recorded in 1998). Neal np: Songs for a Blue Guitar - Red House Painters nr: Los Alamos - Joseph Kanon (see Carol, I am finally getting around to it) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:41:13 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: RE: Melting CDs yab (yet another bill) asked: >Does anyone know whether it's safe to keep CDs in cars during the summer? >I have one of those visor CD-holders and I'd hate to have my music melt. At 8:17 PM -0400 4/29/99, Foghorn J Fornorn wrote: >I would think it is not safe. I'm going to disagree with Fog's comments on this subject. I think it is probably fine, based on lots of years of experience. >CDRs and CDRWs still come with such a page. A Ricoh sleeve I happen to have >handy says 122 degrees F max. That, and avoid direct sunshine. Cars get >upwards of 140 degrees in direct sun. It probably is best to keep them out of direct sunlight though. I bet if you leave them on the seat, the jewelbox might melt. It'd have to get pretty hot to warp the cd's, but it could happen. >This is why I never wanted a CD player for my car, the temptation to (or >necessity of) leaving them there and warping them is too great. Although now >that I can make copies on CDR media for a buck or two, I might reconsider. I have had CD-changers in my cars since 1988, and never had a disc warp. I usually live in Baltimore, so you should be fine in the DC temperatures. I never take the CD's out in the summer or winter, and the only time I've had any trouble at all was when the disc that was playing got scratched when I was rear-ended at high speeds on the highway to DC. I drove out to New Mexico at the tail end of last summer with several hundred CD's in my trunk (in plastic sleeves, not jewel boxes), and discs in the changer too. In Oklahoma, it was over 100 for a couple of days in a row. My bike rack melted onto my trunk. The plastic shell to my helmet warped (foolishly left on top of a box in the back seat). The cd's in the changer played fine throughout, looked fine when I got to New Mexico, and I haven't seen any damage on any of the other discs. You might be able to warp a disc if you leave it on your dash, but I think it would be ok out of direct sunlight anywhere in your car. Welcome to ecto Bill. The DC contingent just keeps growing (to offset Kiri's move. It takes a couple of new ectophiles to balance Kiri :) I'll be back in late June. Maybe we can have a nice ecto-party when I return. neal np: still Red House Painters ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:16:05 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Melting CDs I'll agree with Neal and say that I've never had a problem with discs in my car. I've only had a changer for 2.5 years, but haven't had problems with discs in the trunk (obviously not in direct sunlight), nor back in the days when I used to carry a portable plugged into the dash did I have problems with discs kept in the cabin (and I've been carrying CDs in the car for probably 13-14 years in that way...) > I'll be back in late June. Maybe we can have a nice ecto-party when > I return. Ahhh...I wondered when you'd be back; you had suggested in a recent e-mail that it would be fairly soon. jeff np: nothin', but after reading those Ingrid Karklins albums, I'm looking forward to taking them to the office tomorrow. And it occurred to me that for some stupid reason, I never got around to buying _Red Hand_. Who can give me ordering info? - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: joann.whetsell@oberlin.edu (JoAnn Whetsell) Subject: new music Tonight I picked up the following: Vonda Shepard- by 7:30 K's Choice- Cocoon Crash Shelby Starner- From In The Shadows I haven't listened to any of them yet. I love Vonda's last album _It's Good, Eve_ so I have high hopes for this new album. The other two I know nothing about, and have never heard any of their music. I know someone mentioned Shelby here not too long ago, but I don't remember what was said. K's Choice is playing at Lilith Fair this year, but that's all I know about them. Also, how is the Cardigans _Gran Turismo_? I don't know why I'm asking, since I wasn't crazy about the single from the last time, nor was I that impressed when I saw them at Lilith Fair. I think the lead singer is really cute though. JoAnn np: Victoria Williams _Musings of a Creekdipper_ "Granpa in the Cornpatch" is such a good song... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:51:36 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Discs for sale/trade at Ecto Trading Post Hi, all-- Just wanted to let everyone know that I just posted 18 discs for sale/trade at WA Gill's Ecto Trading post at http://www.wagill.com/tradingpost/ecto/ Please take them off my hands! - --Neile n.p. Annika Bentley, _see you around, lifeguard_ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #152 **************************