From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #87 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, March 10 1999 Volume 05 : Number 087 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Too many CD's [RavFlight@aol.com] Dutch Ecto/Imogen Heap/Rufus Wainwright [Steve I ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:34:47 EST From: RavFlight@aol.com Subject: Too many CD's Hello all. I was hoping that someone here might be able to help me. It sounds as if many of you have impressive CD collections, so I thought this would be a perfect place to ask the question. I have a rather large CD and Video collection (1700 CD's and 800 Vids, maybe more), and I live in a small studio apartment. Now, both of my collecitons have overflown their storage shelves, and I no longer have to room to add any more. (They already dominate my collection) I was hoping to find some ideas that would economise the space of storage and still leave my collections readily available and fairly convenient. Any ideas..or suggestions that other peope use to store their CD's. It's growing out of hand, so I greatly appriciate any ideas. Thanks Ryan Rogers RavFlight@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:47:22 -0500 From: Steve I Subject: Dutch Ecto/Imogen Heap/Rufus Wainwright Marcel inquired: >I would also like to ask whether there is an interest in creating a "Dutch Ecto" >page containing MP3 files of Dutch music. Since I have cable access these things >are now more easy to make - and I think it's time to promote Holland as a place where >at least a few people make good music........ First of all, welcome back, Marcel, I remember your name from when you used to post before. Secondly, sure, I'd be interested! In fact, I work with a Dutch guy, and he inquired if I knew any Dutch musicians, and try as I might I couldn't think of anyone although I'm quite positive you and others have discussed some of them on ecto. - ---------------- Saw Rufus and Imogen tonight... wow, it was cool to finally see Imogen live. It would have been a bit of a shock hearing quite different versions of her songs from the ones on her album (on this tour she plays by herself, so in terms of instrumentation it's all stripped down to her vocals and piano), except I heard a recording of one of her other live shows so I was prepared for it. Dan S. and I had a discussion about what versions of her songs we prefer, the CD versions or the live versions, and I have to say I'm pretty split. Some songs seem more powerful live, probably partly because the music is distilled down to its most essential elements, the piano and her voice, and partly because she seems to pour more passion into some of her songs live than on the CD. An obvious example is "Rake it in" where in concert she literally emits ear-piercing screams (which are quite startling because you don't expect someone who sings in such a low register to make such high-pitched screams). During other songs, there are parts where I can't help but be distracted because there are missing parts, the parts played by other instruments on the CD. I'd really like to see her play with a band. I believe Dan does not like all the extra instrumentation and production on the CD, preferring the stripped down live versions in almost all cases. We have a theory that our preference is in large part shaped by our first exposure to the songs... for me of course it was the CD and for him it was her live show. I'd like to hear what the experiences of other ectophiles is. But I digress. Imogen played 8 songs, 7 from her album, and one new one that she said she just finished writing in the other room. Rake it in was quite entertaining because as she screamed, she shook her head and her hair, which had been tied up behind her head, came loose and tumbled in a wild mass to her shoulders. It was quite an effect, dare I say, even a sexy one? I was impressed with how effectively she could use a big dynamic range, from the eardrum-popping screams in "Rake it in" to the soft, melodic lullabye "Sleep", with which she closed the show. She was entrancing, and Rufus fans ate her up. On to Rufus... question... When did Rufus inherit the Backstreet Boys audience? The entire first three rows were occupied by pubescent girls who screamed at his every movement, swooned when he came close, blew bubbles everywhere... the most annoying thing was when they started chanting "Rufus Rufus Rufus Rufus" before the applause had totally died for Imogen, and long before the lights came up for the changeover. I wonder if they had planned to keep chanting until he appeared? Rufus seemed to find the demographics of his audience pretty funny too, and cracked several jokes about it... when he introduced "Matinee Idol" as a song about River Phoenix he said "a lot of you are probably too young to remember him", and when he announced the last song of the night and all the girls screamed "NOOOOOOO" in unison he remarked "It's Howdy Doody time!" It still brings a smile to my face... THe first 3 Rufus shows I saw were thankfully pubescent-girl-free so this one was a big shock to me. He put on a great show as usual, although it started on a bizarre and slightly ominous note. Just as he began his first song, he sat on the piano bench... *and it collapsed*, sending him heavily to the floor. I've never seen anything like it in all my years of concert-going. It didn't seem to faze him a bit though, he bounced up and laughed and assured us all he was all right as a stage tech fixed the bench. He played most (or maybe all) of the songs from the album plus some new ones, and a folk song that he performed as a duet with a girl he pulled out of the audience. Unfortunately none of his famed relatives were in attendance at this show, or at least he didn't bring them up to perform. There were lots of musicians in attendance. Moe Berg of The Pursuit of Happiness sat right in front of us, and we also saw Ron Sexsmith, the drummer from Bodega, someone who looked suspiciously like Kurt Swinghammer, even one of the Arrogant Worms. I didn't see Sarah Slean there although I know she had been planning on attending. I'm sure there were lots more there but I'm not generally very good at spotting people like that. Anyway it was a great show although I wasn't very happy with the sound in the venue. It was in a big church, and it sounded like it was in a big church. It was nice and comfortable though. :-) - -------------- Oh and one question re: the webring... is it mainly for ectophiles' own sites, or can we include artists' sites that are maintained by ectophiles? I'm referring to the Sarah Slean and Emm Gryner websites. Steve ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #87 *************************