From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #76 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, March 2 1999 Volume 05 : Number 076 Today's Subjects: ----------------- more jane sales [Neal Copperman ] Re: eh and bee shoppin' ["Bill" ] Elysian Fields (more) ["Donald G. Keller" ] Elysian Fields [John Drummond ] Re: eh and bee shoppin' [Neile Graham ] Re: A&B [Rubber DeNiro ] Jane + A&B [David Liebson ] Re: A&B ["Bill" ] Re: A&B [Brian Bloom ] Re: eh and bee shoppin' [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: Order Jessica Weiser's CD Online! (new) [Bill Mazur ] Re: eh and bee shoppin' ["Bill" ] Re: Another lurker revealed... [Bill Mazur ] Re: Indiemanie Tapes available [Bill Mazur ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:39:37 -0700 (MST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: more jane sales I was looking at the NorthSide site for info on buying their new sampler (Nordic Roots - more below), and saw that they had a page of sale info. Oddly enough, it's nothing like their regular music. Included in the list is Jane Siberry's self-titled debut (released prior to her US debut - No Borders Here). This album doesn't sound anything like NBH or Speckless Sky (there's a surprise). It's a fairly straightforward folk album, though it's got that Jane voice and quirky humor. Since the arrangements are simpler and mostly guitar-based (if my memory serves), it doesn't sound as dated as the albums immediately proceeding it. (Though, like Neil K, I find great pleasure in listening to early Jane. The arrangements and instruments can be dated, but the lyrics are great and the music is fun.) Anyway, the disc is $4. The only catch is that the minimal order from NorthSide is $10. (See www.noside.com) You could always pick up the Nordic Roots sampler, though it still won't get your total over $10. It's a wonderful introduction to the Scandinavian music that has gotten a number of mentions on ecto. Instrumental bands like Hoven Droven and Vasen, and vocal-led ones like Garmarna (my fave) and Hedningarna. It's a whopping $2.99 ("cheaper than food", the one I found at Border's said). NorthSide seems to have taken note of the RealWorld packaging concept. Their discs look great, with a fascinating cover that contains no band information, and using the spine and disc insert page for that sort of info. They point you to CDNow if you want to buy the sampler in an under $10 order, and their they have it for a mere $1.99. I bought a handful, as well as Kirsten Hirsh's "Murder Mayhem ...", Frifot (reviews of them and other Swedish stuff to follow eventually in my Folk Alliance recap), and the Sandy Denny box (see Neile, I'm finally doing it). neal np: Peter & Wendy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 15:11:07 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: eh and bee shoppin' On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:50:25 -0600, Bob Kollmeyer wrote: >SIBERRY, JANE > BOUND BY THE BEAUTY $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31058 > COLLECTION 84-89 $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31093 > NO BORDERS HERE $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31006 > SPECKLESS SKY $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31019 > WALKING $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31040 > >I have no experience with A&B, but if they have them in stock and >they aren't in your collection you'd be insane to pass these by. Yes, >that's $5.49 Canadian (estimated $3.72 US) each. hmmm... I've never listened to Jane Siberry. And, comparison-wise (quoting from The Guide), I am not much into Laurie Anderson or Tori Amos (no hard feelings), and am not familiar with Harriet Wheeler. So, would I really be insane to pass these up? Give me something to go by here... :) - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: Elysian Fields (more) Elysian Fields are a New York band (though they haven't played often in town the last two years); the main members do a number of other things. Ed Pastorini has his own quirky, edgy jazz-rock band 101 Crustaceans (no available recordings, unfortunately), and Oren Bloedow does solo gigs and plays with other people (he has at least one solo album). Jennifer Charles' main activity is Elysian Fields, but she also sang on two tracks on =Get Off the Cross...=, the debut album by Firewater (Todd A.'s successor to Cop Shoot Cop). The word from the band is that their second full-length is in limbo right now; don't know what's up with Radioactive. Without making an exact count (I've got set lists...) I'd venture that they have another album's worth of material, at least, beyond that. One reason it's worth catching them live. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:32:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Drummond Subject: Elysian Fields Y'all, Elysian Fields have been a favorite of mine for awhile... I bought "Bleed Your Cedar" when I was hmm... maybe a Junior in high school... anyhow, I read on the Radioactive website SO long ago that they had a new album due in August of '98 called "Black Acres" that nightmare wunderkind Steve Albini produced, but, as y'all can see, there's no new album anywhere to be seen... which leads me to believe that they just thought Albini did a shit job of producing and thus scrapped it and are re-recording right now, which would be lovely... I have sort of a personal dislike issue with Albini, because of, as they say, "what he did" to PJ Harvey's second album... although I do love the album, it's the songs I love, not the production. And how in the hell are you supposed to be able to make the sound so muddled and nasty when you're only credited with "recording", Steve? Have mercy... ANYHOW... Elysian Fields are very amazing... I love the constant sexual allusion... "Bleed Your Cedar" in and of itself is allusive enough... and almost all of the other songs are that way... I especially love the hilariously-sexy part from "Sugarplum Arches" where the music stops and she mutters, "Let me be your salt lick salt lick salt lick let me be your salt sap wet lap dream!" They say Jennifer Charles used to be a performance artist, and I can see very well how that influences her lyrics. ;D So that's my 17 cents on Elysian Fields... and nobody got hurt! YES! John, E's T.A. == lyrics flow like spirits from the waters Moses parted _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:34:06 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: eh and bee shoppin' Bill wrote: >hmmm... I've never listened to Jane Siberry. And, comparison-wise >(quoting from The Guide), I am not much into Laurie Anderson or Tori >Amos (no hard feelings), and am not familiar with Harriet Wheeler. > >So, would I really be insane to pass these up? In a word: yes. >Give me something to go >by here... :) Now that's the hard part. She's not really like Laurie Anderson or Tori Amos of Harriet Wheeler. She's only like Jane Siberry. Few people are like her, though I have heard bits and pieces of her sound in other people's music. Another problem is that each album is different, with the possible exception of _Jane Siberry_ and _Teenager_ which are more alike than different. My advice is to go to Cellophane Square (you're in Bellingham, right?) and see what they have there of hers and give it a listen. Then of course, buy all those discs. - --Neile n.p. Ephemera, _Glue_ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: Rubber DeNiro Subject: Re: A&B Will someone please post a URL for this A&B thing with the cheep Jane discs? None of the current messages refer to it, and I must have deleted the original, and I can't find it with AltaVista or anything. Thanks. - --Charley _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:46:16 -0800 (PST) From: David Liebson Subject: Jane + A&B While everyone is ordering cheap Jane discs from A&B (www.absound.ca), it's worth mentioning that they have Dalbello's 3 albums at low prices as well.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 15:50:21 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: A&B On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:40:30 -0800 (PST), Rubber DeNiro wrote: >Will someone please post a URL for this A&B thing with the cheep Jane >discs? None of the current messages refer to it, and I must have >deleted the original, and I can't find it with AltaVista or anything. Go to: http://www.absound.ca/music/music.html and search for "Siberry, Jane". I would give you a direct link to the Jane Siberry listing, but the Gods of CGI won't allow it so. Sowee. - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 15:49:23 -0800 From: Brian Bloom Subject: Re: A&B I'm surfing it right now.. :) http://www.absound.ca/music/search/search.html moo. >Will someone please post a URL for this A&B thing with the cheep Jane >discs? None of the current messages refer to it, and I must have >deleted the original, and I can't find it with AltaVista or anything. > >Thanks. > >--Charley >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 19:47:09 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: eh and bee shoppin' Bill wrote: > hmmm... I've never listened to Jane Siberry. And, comparison-wise > (quoting from The Guide), I am not much into Laurie Anderson or Tori > Amos (no hard feelings), and am not familiar with Harriet Wheeler. > > So, would I really be insane to pass these up? Give me something to go > by here... :) Yes. Er, no. No, definitely yes. Well, I dunno. Jane Siberry is *really* hard to recommend to anyone, because she's so out there. Even her pop stuff is just plain weird. Mind you, to *me* that's a fabulously amazingly wonderful weird, at least mostly, but that's just me. Oh, and lots of ectophiles too. But definitely not everyone. Part of the problem is, as many have pointed out, that every album sounds different, while still somehow maintaining an unmistakeable Janeness. And you're fairly unlikely to have heard her anywhere, at least in the US, with the possible exception of her "Calling All Angels" on the _Until the End of the World_ soundtrack. (that's a duet with kd lang, and it also appears on _When I Was a Boy_) For instance: every now and then, the issue of whether _Bound By the Beauty_ is "country." comes up. I only hear one country song on there ("Something About Trains"), though perhaps some other tracks have some country tinge to them. Other people hear the album and think it just *screams* country. _When I Was a Boy_ is, to my ear, probably the most easily categorized as ectophilic (though one might successfully argue that Jane is one of the prototype artists who most inspired this so-called genre, so all of her albums are ectophilic). It's lush and electronic and pop and folk and ethereal and electronic and all sorts of everything rolled into one brilliant package that screams to be listened to in in the dark on good 'phones. Jane can be a *difficult* artist. She's one of those perfect examples of why I hate listening stations. If I'd given her a cursory glance, I'd have dissed her in an instant. In fact, I almost did, back in '89 when I bought it on a lark, inspired by comments on r.m.g. If I hadn't as much respect for the opinions of people pushing Jane, I would have abandoned her quickly after first hearing _No Borders Here_. As it was, it wasn't long before I dashed out to pick up another... and yes, it sounded completely different. and wonderful. My guess is that this doesn't help at all as to whether or not to order, but maybe it'll amuse you. ;-) jeff np: _No Borders Here_, Jane Siberry - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:30:20 -0800 From: Bill Mazur Subject: Re: Order Jessica Weiser's CD Online! (new) Jessica, You write some great songs and have a beautiful voice. I really enjoyed hearing all three of the songs that you have samples of on the CD Baby site. The moody "All I Could Do" is my favorite. I want to wish you all of the luck and success in the world! Best Regards, Bill Songbird22@aol.com wrote: > > hey all, > > you can finally order my CD online! there are also 3 soundclips from songs > 3-5, an indepth review, a short review, etc. you can use credit cards to > order now! also, CD Baby is such a great source for buying independent music. > they've got all sorts of ecto artists, etc., and you can listen to them all > online before you buy it. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:44:31 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: eh and bee shoppin' First Neile Graham wrote: >My advice is to go to Cellophane Square (you're in Bellingham, right?) and >see what they have there of hers and give it a listen. I did, and all they had was _Child_ new, and with a price tag of nearly $20! sheesh... >Then of course, buy all those discs. hmmm... :) ... Then Jeffrey Burka wrote: >My guess is that this doesn't help at all as to whether or not to order, >but maybe it'll amuse you. ;-) Acutally, it amused me a lot! :) >If I hadn't as much respect for the opinions of people pushing Jane, I >would have abandoned her quickly after first hearing _No Borders Here_. That's just it, I have great respect for the collective opinion of the Ectophiles, so... I'll go fire up my Web browser. :) Thanks for all the input. - - Bill. np: Eric Clapton - Pilgrim nr: (nuthin'; wish I had a life...) PS: Larry H., if you're reading this: I'll call back when I get a life... ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:32:28 -0800 From: Bill Mazur Subject: Re: Another lurker revealed... > The reason I didn't introduce myself earlier is that I didn't think of > myself as really "ecto".....I'm a Queen fan first and foremost, and I > felt I couldn't _possibly_ be taken seriously here if I admitted > that...Seeing the names Queen, Freddie and Brian mentioned here a few > times in the fav lists made me change my mind...so thanks to everyone of > you who mentioned them! Elina, How was it that you were introduced to Queen? Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:35:10 -0800 From: Bill Mazur Subject: Re: Indiemanie Tapes available Neile Graham wrote: > > Hi, all-- > > Peole were talking about getting a chance to hear things, and I thought > maybe it was time to make another offer of the Indiemania tapes I compiled > a couple of years ago. I could probably add a few more tapes to this but > don't have time right now, so for now I'll only offer the original three. > > This is a collection of material I made from artists all of whom are on > small independent labels--or were at the time the recording was made. I > originally made it for a particular person, which explains some of the > choices I made. It's only one song from each artist, which makes it more > difficult to really hear each particular artist, but still, it's a taste. I too will soon be sending you three tapes and the appropriate postage (as soon as I can get to it). Thanks Neile! ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #76 *************************