From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #74 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, March 1 1999 Volume 05 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: New (to me) music [Sherlyn Koo ] Order Jessica Weiser's CD Online! (new) [Songbird22@aol.com] YMG ["Donald G. Keller" ] eh and bee shoppin' ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] the living room (nyc) [cinders blue ] the ecto influence strikes again... [Riphug@aol.com] Re: New XTC [Ted & Debbie ] Re: Peter & Wendy [neal copperman ] Re: eh and bee shoppin' ["Bill" ] Re: Apple/Vega/vocal [cinnamon@one.net (athol-brose)] Re: Peter & Wendy [neal copperman ] Re: Indiemanie Tapes available [Neile Graham ] Niekku "3" ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Chieftains' Tears of Stone [enya7@iname.com] Re: Chieftains' Tears of Stone ["Jeffrey Hanson" ] Ecto Comp update ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Veda Hille interview on WPKN [Valerie Kraemer ] Re: eh and bee shoppin' [rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer)] Re: this week in music [Michael Curry ] Re: eh and bee shoppin' [Neile Graham ] Re: Chieftains' Tears of Stone [Mark Miazga ] SF Gate Celtic music article ["Larry J. Hernandez" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 03:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Pamela Pociluk (TivoliDK@aol.com) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 Eat at Joe's - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:27:57 +1100 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Re: New (to me) music Hey everyone, About a week ago, Mark Lowry said (I've just come back from a week away, whoohoo): >1. Christine Lavin = One Wild Night in Concert > I usually don't like >live CDs, I just don't. (The Indigo Girls' 1200 Curfews is one of the ...... >her in concert, but that will change this weekend. The only annoying >thing about this CD is its jewel case. I've never seen this kind before. >It's that plasti-glass stuff that most jewel cases are made out of it, >but the thing that holds the CD slides out, and then folds in down so >you can pull the jacket out if you need to. It reminds me of those cheap >cardboard/slidey thing cases that I hate so much. (Gosh, I'm getting >really technical here, huh?) Does anyone know, did CL come up with this >new design now that she has her own record company? I'm just not digging >it. According to Christine's liner notes for the album, the CD case for "One Wild Night..." was made by Laserfile, who can be found on the web at http://www.laserfile.com. The design and materials are supposed to be more durable than regular CD jewel cases. It's a bit hard to open one-handed though, which makes it hard to open if you're, say, driving, or something... hm. But anyway. Too tired to really make any sense... - -sherlyn =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-= a+e=ig Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au [Sydney, Australia] "Hold out your heart and on it let the sun shine down, Open your mind and through it let the wisdom pour..." - Jann Arden ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:44:16 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Order Jessica Weiser's CD Online! (new) hey all, you can finally order my CD online! there are also 3 soundclips from songs 3-5, an indepth review, a short review, etc. you can use credit cards to order now! also, CD Baby is such a great source for buying independent music. they've got all sorts of ecto artists, etc., and you can listen to them all online before you buy it. :) if you're interested in looking at the page they've designed for my cd, or ordering the CD or hearing soundclips, please go here: http://www.cdbaby.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/buy/weiser.htm?E+cdbaby - -or- http://www.cdbaby.com/buy/weiser.htm I would love to know what you think of the page or any other comments about the CD, etc. so please feel free to mail me if you have any. :) - --jessica http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:55:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: YMG Um, the Hole song "Credit in the Straight World" is a cover of the Young Marble Giants original (correctly credited to Stuart Moxham in the notes to =Live Through This=). Haven't heard the Young Marble Giants album (they basically only did the one) in a while--I don't own it, shame on me--but it's really good: female vocal, organ, and bass, I think (it =has= been a long time). In a phrase I'd describe them as spare but arty. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:12:30 -0500 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: eh and bee shoppin' I hope you get better turnaround on your 1st order with them than mine - almost 6 months and counting. And that order was back catalog Veda Hille and Jane Siberry - wouldn't you think that A&B Sound would be a good source for Canadian artists? - think again. Also, for things they list price at over $10.00 (US$), shop around. I found "Child" for about $3 cheaper at Amazon.com, and it arrived in my lifetime. Let me also second the suggestion a month or so back about iMVS as a source for imports - they've come thru on things no one else has, with fast turnaround, and do a great job of keeping me up to date on my order status. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:55:45 -0500 From: cinders blue Subject: the living room (nyc) possibly of interest at the living room (new york city) over the next month...edited for ectophilic tastes and what i kow about. for the full listing, see . (by the way, i must point out that their food is great -- when we saw beth sorrentino there last week, i had the largest grilled chicken sandwich in all of nyc and the mashed potatos were incredible!) >The Living Room >84 Stanton St. >New York, NY 10002 >212.533.7235 > >Sun 2/28 - 9:00 Martha Wainright >Fri 3/5 - 8:00 Chris Delmhurst & Edie Carey >Sun 3/7 - 8:00 Martha Wainright / 9:00 Michael Hurley >Mon 3/8 - 8:30 Lauren Hoffman / 10:00 Dorothy Scott >Thu 3/11 - 8:30 Pamela Means >Wed 3/17 - 8:00 Chris Rael & Superfriends >Fri 3/19 - 10:00 Joy Askew >Mon 3/22 - 10:00 Dorothy Scott >Fri 3/26 - 8:30 Kevin So / 11:00 The Bisbees >Wed 3/31 - 10:00 Joy Askew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:03:34 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: the ecto influence strikes again... After hearing the name Dubstar mentioned on this list, I ran across a used copy of their album "Goodbye" at Disc-Go-Round, gave it a listen, and added it to my collection. I wish I would have known more about them sooner! Lead singer, Sarah Blackwood's voice sounds almost exactly like Kirsty MacColl's voice! Or am I crazy? I also made my virgin purchases of The Murmurs (eponymous), Marillion (Holidays in Eden), and Thomas Dolby (Astronauts & Heretics). All of them very pleasing to my ears. Also picked up Beth Wood's "Wood Work", Depeche Mode's "The Singles 81>85 (which I was very happy to find used), and "The Compact King Crimson." I hadn't heard anything from King Crimson since the original "In the Court of the Crimson King." Most of it I like....a few of the tracks are a little too repetitive, but I can live with them. Now for a new discovery: Some of you might remember a zillion months ago (when I was much more active here), I was looking for anything and everything by the Norwegian duo Dollie De Luxe......well, a friend of mine in Norway eventually sent me their CD "Which Witch" -- a wonderful rock opera......with voices sometimes reminiscent of Happy Rhodes. This same wonderful friend also sent to me a CD by another Norwegian female duo known as Adrian/Bjornov. I haven't checked yet to see if they have a website or sound samples up on the internet, but they're definitely worth checking out! Finally.....thanks to whoever brought up April March here on ecto.....I purchased their CD last week and love it! Jill :D Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:43:26 -0500 From: Ted & Debbie Subject: Re: New XTC I had just put English Settlement on the CD player when I read the news here about the new XTC disc. More Ectosynchronicity! I like a lot of what I hear on it; good solid XTC tunes and strings (LOVE strings), lots of strings. The standout tune for me is definitely Green Man, though there are others that are good enough to bear another few listens to see what else will grow on me. No liner notes, though. . . The cover is just a piece of cardboard, so I went looking on the web for more info, and learned of Transistor Blast, the XTC BBC boxed set from a few months ago, which I bought two days later. Thanks to the folks here who brought this disc's release date to my attention, and belated thanks for turning me on to Sinead Lohan, who is easily in my "best of" Top 5 list for '98. Now a quick question. . . I still need to get a copy of Aural Gratification Vol. 2. Is it still available from the label, or do I have to start hunting? Mucho arigatou, Ted ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:29:55 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Peter & Wendy At 11:00 AM -0700 2/27/99, Jeffrey Hanson wrote: >Mike is correct--Susan McKeown did sing at the recent Berkely performances >(I attended the show with Neal). Yes, it's true. Jeff, Sue Trowbridge and another friend of ours saw this production in it's final weekend in Berkeley. >This adaption of Peter Pan is completely magical--I was truly >amazed at the narrator's skills in doing all the voices, as well as doing >quite a physical performance, and how easy it was to suspend disbelief, almost >forgetting the myriads of puppetteers on the stage. I'm sure a lot of the details of the show were explained here when it was first performed, but they are probably worth repeating for anyone who wasn't around then (or maybe for comparison's sake). There is only one "human" character in the play - the narrator, played by Karen Kandel. She provided the voices of every character in the play, as well as the physical presence for many of them. This includes Mr & Mrs. Darling, Hook, Peter, the lost boys, various pirates and even Nana the dog. She also was Wendy. Each of these characters had their own voices, and, when she played the character, their own mannerisms. Peter Pan, amusingly enough, had a Scottish accent. As Wendy, her face would light up and her voice fill with the whispy enthusiasm of a child. Through body language and changing facial expressions and masking her face, she carried on dialogs between Wendy and Peter (the puppet), that were totally believable. Within moments, your focus was directed to the characters in the puppets, and away from the narrator when she wasn't actually playing a character. Plus, she had to have puppetry skills too! as she often manipulated the dog puppet. Has anyone else done this role? She really seems the heart of the performance. The puppetteers are all present on stage, garbed in white and with their faces shrouded. Typically it took three of them to manipulate one of the puppets, but they moved with such grace that they melted into the scenery, never interfering with the show itself. In fact, I marvelled at how it appeard that Peter Pan would fly, dragging his puppetteers behind him, rather than being propelled by them. >Anyone interested in theater at all >should see this, because the way it is staged is really incredible--they >make the most out of all the stage props, the lighting, the stage space, etc. The play imaginatively uses simple objects and gives them a life of their own. Flying nightshirts stand in for, and become, children. A pile of rags leaps to life as a dog. Shadow puppets and projected images give a sense of depth and motion to flying. It's a total and effective multi-media production. >Everything about the >performance is equal to the quality of the Johnny Cunningham music--which >makes it quite a production. The music, of course, is marvelous too, and is a snapshot of the show itself. The following Monday, Sue and I saw Susan and Johnny perform at the Freight and Salvage in Berkeley. The first half of the show consisted of a round robin set between the two. Most of Susan's material came from Bushes & Briars, and Johnny played a number of jigs and reels. The second half of the show was a condensed Peter & Wendy, much like some of us saw in (wherever we were) in MA last year. Johnny sets the scene by filling the gaps in the narration and they play portions of the show's music. This was a blast when I saw it prior to the show (last year), but was even more fun with the show just behind me. Our other concert outing for the weekend was to see an instore at Amoeba on the Haight by the Tuvan throat singers Huun Huur Tu. I'd seen them before, but everyone else was surprised at the tunefulness and appeal of the various odd approachs they bring to music. (I posted a lot of that in great detail when I saw them before, gees, like 6 years ago! Anyyone remember the "how to" lessons in throat singing that came up then?) neal np: seeing nothing but the sky ... The songs of Tibetan nuns recorded in a Chinese Prison I was really touched by the plight of these imprisoned Tibetan nuns as told by Yungchen Lhamo in her concert in Phoenix and tracked down this disc (from www.freetibet.org). The nuns were arrested in 1989 for taking part in brief and tiny non-violent demonstrations and were imprisoned for roughly 5 years. On a smuggled tape recorder, they recorded protest songs from jail, which ended up adding years to their sentances. The disc actually contains three sections: the nuns, 2 male prisoners, and 1 male prisoner. The songs are mournful documentaries of their prison life, and while very simply recorded, are quite moving and surprisingly listenable. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:09:51 -0800 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: eh and bee shoppin' On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:12:30 -0500, Foghorn J Fornorn wrote: >I hope you get better turnaround on your 1st order with them than mine - >almost 6 months and counting. And that order was back catalog Veda Hille and >Jane Siberry - wouldn't you think that A&B Sound would be a good source for >Canadian artists? - think again. > >Also, for things they list price at over $10.00 (US$), shop around. I found >"Child" for about $3 cheaper at Amazon.com, and it arrived in my lifetime. > >Let me also second the suggestion a month or so back about iMVS as a source >for imports - they've come thru on things no one else has, with fast >turnaround, and do a great job of keeping me up to date on my order status. hmmm... interrresting... thanks for the heads-up. I'll report back when I get my shipment. And I will keep Amazon.com and iMVS in mind for the next time. - - Bill. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:27:50 GMT From: cinnamon@one.net (athol-brose) Subject: Re: Apple/Vega/vocal On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:52:07 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >I've run into this before, so I shouldn't be as surprised as I am at how >the bulk of Suzanne Vega fans dismiss =Days of Open Hand=, which is not >only my favorite Suzanne Vega album, but was my favorite pop album of >that year (I probably heard less than a dozen, to be fair--I was heavily >into 20th century classical music at that time). And the opening track, >"Tired of Sleeping," is my single favorite Suzanne Vega song--I was so >glad she played it at her Knitting Factory show last year. Don't feel alone. "Days of Open Hand" is tied with "99.9oF" as my favorite Suzanne Vega album. I know this puts me in a minority as far as SV fans go, but oh, well. I used to listen to "Pilgrimage" just as I arrived at any new place I was moving to (thankfully, I haven't moved for the last 6 years and I don't plan to move again!), and how anyone can dismiss an album with "Rusted Pipe" and "Those Whole Girls" is beyond me. Then again, one of my favorite SV songs as a song is on "Nine Objects of Desire", the one about the ghosts in the hotel room. (Just looking at the track listing on the CDDB doesn't help.) r. n. dominick -- cinnamon@one.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:44:49 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Peter & Wendy I was just reading over the liner notes for Peter & Wendy and noticed that Mary Fahl is listed in the "Credits for Mabou Mines' original stage production". She's credited with vocals, not backing vocals, though she appears far down in the credits after Johnny, Susan, and almost all of the musicians. So I guess it wasn't the surprise I thought it was when she was suggested to do the east coast show. Anyone see any of the productions that she sang in? BTW Jill, I can't remember who did the east coast dates instead of Mary either. I asked Susan and she told me, and I promptly forgot. It wasn't a name I knew. She said the woman had been in an Irish band (who I've also forgotten) that had some recognition. neal now shuffling over (kind of an odd combo): Peter & Wendy seeing nothing but the sky ... - The songs of Tibetan nuns recorded in a Chinese Prison This Woman's Work Volume 2 - Kate Bush ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:23:16 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Indiemanie Tapes available Mark Lowry wrote: >> Young Marble Giants--Credit In The Straight World > >Um, would that be a cover of the Hole song ... like anyone else would have the >same title. What is YMG like? Hole's song was a cover of Young Marble Giants! They are a group from the late 70s, early 80s--way way way ahead of their time. There's a page on them in The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music if you want more info on them. (Other responses sent privately.) - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:38:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Niekku "3" n.p. is a really enjoyable disc I picked up in my latest raid on the Borders $1 bins. Niekku's "3" is a collection of songs and instrumentals, some derived from traditional materials by a Finnish ensemble. There's a wide variety of stuff here, all quite attractive. "Kanteleilla" hits a spots somewhere between Laraaji and Pat Metheny, with a touch of Mike Oldfield. "Mene Myoten Myoty Neiti" is rather newagey for the most part until a raucous accordion dives in in another key. "Tuuti Tuuti" consists mostly of harmonized a capella vocals. And the closing "Kymmenella Rivilla" has drifting atonal accordian, rather as if someone had transcribed three Pauline Oliveros solo and was playing them simultaneously. I have a feeling I'll be listening to this a lot. - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:52:15 -0500 (EST) From: enya7@iname.com Subject: Chieftains' Tears of Stone Chieftains' "Tears of Stone" recently released The Chieftains have invited more than a dozen female vocalists and players to guest star on this collection, billed as a follow-up to the enormously popular The Long Black Veil. Sinead O'Connor is invited back for a second turn on the austere, gripping "Factory Girl." The Chieftains have become so adept at slipping in and out of diverse musical backgrounds that they can accompany Bonnie Raitt, Loreena McKennitt, and Joan Osborne with performances that cleverly reflect the personalities of the singers. Some of the settings are brilliantly apt - the Corrs get a funky, rollicking feature, McKennitt's "Ye Rambling Boys of Pleasure" begins with a minute and a half a cappella. Even Akiko Yano's Japanese folkytune, "Sake in the Jar," does not disrupt the proceedings. As usual, Natalie Merchant stays too solemn throughout her number, and Diana Krall's "Danny Boy" is too obvious a closer, though the performance is richly nuanced. On the surprise-gift side, Joni Mitchell's "Magdalene Laundries" just might be a masterpiece. - Milo Miles- from Soundstone - --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:01:49 -0700 From: "Jeffrey Hanson" Subject: Re: Chieftains' Tears of Stone >Chieftains' "Tears of Stone" >recently released > I recently purchased this CD and am quite pleased with it. Like most compilation CDs, it's a little uneven--but then there are no tracks that I really dislike, so it's better than most compilations. I was most impressed with Joan Osborne's Raglan Road. She really has a knack for Irish songs surprisingly. Anyone know when her next album should be released? I liked "Relish" and her early recordings album well enough, but it's tracks like this and Spearhead's Wayfarin' Stranger that make me realize just what she's capable of. The one track I found a little disappointing was Joni Mitchell's The Magdalene Laundries--a great song, yes, but this arrangement differs little from the original. JeffHanson n.p. Margie Adam - Soon and Again...piano solos n.r. Doomsday Book - Connie Willis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:07:38 -0500 From: meredith Subject: this week in music Hi! Another busy concert week ... and it's only going to get better next week. :) Tuesday I had a short-notice trip to Illinois, but I managed to get back into LaGuardia in time to go over to the Living Room that evening to see Beth Sorrentino. Tuesday was one of those REALLY annoying dilemmas: Rachael Sage, Merrie Amsterburg, and Beth Sorrentino were all playing at three separate locations in lower Manhattan at EXACTLY the same time. Argh. It had been the longest since we'd seen Beth, so she won the toss. Good thing we decided to go, too - else there would've been nobody there to see her. :P woj and I got there as the first act of the evening was getting started, a very earnest South African named Yoav who looked like he'd fallen out of Menudo and couldn't get up. He had a nice voice that wouldn't sound out of place on a top-40 international smash hit, and his songwriting seemed to fit that mold as well. He wasn't offensive, but he wasn't all that engaging either. Mike Curry arrived just as Beth was setting up. She had an electric piano with her, and Ken, the bass player from Suddenly, Tammy! was there as well, this time playing a guitar that had been strung with 6 bass strings. It produced a really interesting sound. He didn't play with her on all songs, but he added quite a bit to the ones he did play on. Beth played all new material, and in a word, it can all be described as: mellow. She had a cold (one which, if she is to be believed, she's had since 1997 :), but her voice still sounded fine. I didn't notice the lack of high notes until Mike mentioned it later. :) I didn't get a chance to ask her if there's any hope of a solo album any time soon, but she did say that she recognized me from when we saw Suddenly, Tammy! at Cafe Sin-e oh, about 4 years ago now. Yow. Friday night Susan McKeown and the Chanting House did two sets at Fez. It was a weird situation -- Elysian Fields were also scheduled at Fez that night for a midnight show, which meant that both of Susan's sets were cut short, and of course ran late. The set list was the same both times, except one song was left out of the late set for time reasons. There were no encores, again for time reasons. (Mike, you grabbed the set list, so I'll let you post it. :) Still, though, it was great to see Susan perform again. She started off with my favorite song from _Mighty Rain_, "Stone Boat". The full band version was quite different from the stark one on the album, but I liked it nonetheless. She also did the lead track from the new _Mother_ album, her collaboration with pianist Robin Spielberg and Cathie Ryan (formerly of Cherish The Ladies). I've only had a chance to listen to the album once so far, but it's got some pretty good stuff on it, especially Susan's contributions (naturally :). The rest of the set was standard fare, all of it as good as always. Even though Susan had a cold, she still sounded great. I've heard more than one person comment that she sounds better when she's stuffed up than when she's feeling fine, and I have to agree. Her voice has more resonance, or something. It's strange. One of the people I was there with had never heard Susan's music before, and she was appropriately blown away. :) Second set ... same as the first, but Susan's voice was warmed up and sounded even better than before. Opening both sets was Erin McKeown, who may or may not be Susan's cousin. :) I'd seen her once before and she was pretty good. Her first set was songs that really don't do all that much for me, but her second set was much, much better. I think she's got a long career ahead of her, and I hope she develops into the vast potential she's showing. She really is a good guitar player, too. Then it was time to get herded out into the cold and decide if we were going to be stupid and stick around to see Elysian Fields or not. Since it looked like the place was going to be packed, we decided to just go home. According to Don we missed a good show, but oh well. Sometimes reason just has to prevail. Last night The Nields did two shows up at the Iron Horse. Of course, I was there for both. :) woj and I met up with JeffW for the evening. Jess Klein opened - another veteran (along with Erin McKeown) of the Acoustic Studio's "Not Famous Yet" series. I've seen her three times now, and I really can't figure out why there's such a fuss about her. She's got a nice voice, *very* reminiscent of Susanna Hoffs, but her songs are ... well, they're just boring. She's way too earnest, like she's trying to be Dylan up there. Maybe she'll lighten up with age, who knows? There were lots of people there to see her who weren't familiar with The Nields, and I know at least one of them left an instant convert. One Klein fan, whom I was talking to in line for the bathroom downstairs passed by me on the way out going, "wow, how awesome was that?" :) Both Nields sets were different, as usual, and they were both great. They started the first set off with "(Just Like) Christopher Columbus", which was a nice surprise, and moved into various songs from _Play_ and even some new songs. One of them sounds like a Monkees tune, but a couple of the new ones, especially "Mr. Right Now" are really great. The second set had the floor in front of the stage cleared out for dancing, and I secured my usual spot right at Nerissa's feet. The second set was filmed for a local public TV show, and I was dismayed to find one of the cameras trained right on me for most of the audience shots. :P Hopefully they'll cut that audience stuff out. :) I still maintain that there's no better place to see The Nields than in front of their hometown crowd at the Iron Horse. Everyone's having as much fun as the band, guaranteed. So tomorrow night Veda Hille is at the Knitting Factory's Old Office at 9 pm. Then on Friday she's at Trinity College, and on Saturday she'll open solo for 10,000 Maniacs at the Iron Horse . This is going to be a great week. :) Hope to see a bunch of ectophiles there ... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:17:18 -0500 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: Ecto Comp update Here's the latest crib sheet: Demos/Participants: Total time so far: 43:30 Jessica Weiser [Songbird22@aol.com] John Drummond [johnxxiii@yahoo.com] 5:00 Heather Russell [hrussell@bellsouth.net] 6:30 Joseph S. Zitt [jzitt@humansystems.com] 5:00 Holly J Tominack [htominack@erols.com] "Stimulous Bound" Bill Mazur [wpm@value.net] and Katheleen Michaels 10:30 Dirk Kastens [Dirk.Kastens@rz.uni-osnabrueck.de] 6:00 Kim Justice [justicek@home.com] 10:30 Rubber DeNiro [lissener@yahoo.com] Richard Holmes [rholmes@ccrma.Stanford.EDU] and Janet Dunbar Cyoakha [lanblind@teleport.com] Liner Design: Rubber DeNiro [lissener@yahoo.com] Brian Bloom [brianb@mooman.com] Cyoakha [lanblind@teleport.com] Not much new here except some timing updates. Some people have demos ready to mail out, others I believe are still considering or working on the material they'd like to offer. I have not told anyone where to send stuff yet. I may be taking a week to 10 day vacation in mid March and I'd rather none of this stuff arrived while I am away. That's the reason I'm holding off on giving out mailing instructions. I will send out a note to the email addresses collected above when I'm back (or decide not to go). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:34:22 -0500 From: Valerie Kraemer Subject: Veda Hille interview on WPKN I have the great pleasure to have an interview scheduled with Veda Hille on my weekly radio show at WPKN this coming Friday, March 5. She will be stopping by the station on the way to her evening gig in Hartford, CT. WPKN can be heard in southern Connecticut and eastern Long Island. It is located at 89.5 on the FM dial. Oh, the interview is taking place at 12:30 p.m. - --Valerie Richardson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:50:25 -0600 From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Subject: Re: eh and bee shoppin' "Foghorn J Fornorn" writes: > I hope you get better turnaround on your 1st order with them than mine - > almost 6 months and counting. And that order was back catalog Veda Hille and > Jane Siberry - wouldn't you think that A&B Sound would be a good source for > Canadian artists? - think again. I was just there looking at Veda's discs and on a whim checked out their listings for Jane - looks like A&B is clearing out some of Jane's discs: SIBERRY, JANE BOUND BY THE BEAUTY $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31058 COLLECTION 84-89 $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31093 NO BORDERS HERE $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31006 SPECKLESS SKY $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31019 WALKING $3.72/$5.49 MCA DSBBD31040 I have no experience with A&B, but if they have them in stock and they aren't in your collection you'd be insane to pass these by. Yes, that's $5.49 Canadian (estimated $3.72 US) each. > Also, for things they list price at over $10.00 (US$), shop around. I found > "Child" for about $3 cheaper at Amazon.com, and it arrived in my lifetime. As long as I was looking, A&B lists CHILD:MUSIC FOR THE CHRISTMAS $12.53/$18.49 KCH SHECD003 while Amazon lists it at over US$17, over $4 more expensive. Again, no basis on which to judge A&B's turn around time (yet - I went ahead with an order...). Personally, I can't wait for decent auto-shopping agents to do all the work for us. 8) bob np Danielle Dax - Blast the Human Flower ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:56:38 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: this week in music It's always nice when Meredith posts about these shows first so I can get away with just adding a few comments. ;) >Tuesday I had a short-notice trip to Illinois, but I managed to get >back into LaGuardia in time to go over to the Living Room that evening >to see Beth Sorrentino. Beth had played at the Living Room on several occasions, and every time I just somehow never got around to going. What an idiot! Her all too short set was really great and the next time she plays I'll be sure to be there. I was pretty amazed by how few people were there to see Beth given the crowds back when S,T! used to play Sin-e and given the quality of her new songs. She certainly deserves better. >Friday night Susan McKeown and the Chanting House did two sets at Fez. >It was a weird situation -- Elysian Fields were also scheduled at Fez >that night for a midnight show, which meant that both of Susan's sets >were cut short, and of course ran late. The set list was the same >both times, except one song was left out of the late set for time >reasons. There were no encores, again for time reasons. (Mike, >you grabbed the set list, so I'll let you post it. :) The basic set list was: Stone Boat Ce Leis E Black River Daddy's Little Girl Ballinaboula Seven Cold Glories The Chariot Fuck You In London So Fair Albatross Mother of Mine Snakes I really wish Susan had time for longer sets, but what we got was really great so it's hard to complain. There were a few little twists and changes in the arrangements of some of the songs since the last time I saw the full band, and most of them worked very well. I think the award for most impressive band member (besides Susan herself) has to go to Michelle this time, but as always everyone was great. As for Erin McKeown, I really disliked her first set but then I really liked her second one. I guess that means I think she's uneven. I decided to pass on seeing the Nields on Saturday night, but I did go to see the "celtic" band Anam at the Iron Horse tonight. It was their first time in Northampton and the place was only half full, but they put on a very impressive show, playing a mix of traditional Irish, Scottish and Cornish tunes along with some original tunes and songs. I hadn't heard any of Anam's music before, and though I wasn't blown away like I was the first time I saw Solas or Altan I'll probably go and see them again the next time they come by. Mike np: Sinead Lohan -- No Mermaid nr: Jingo by Terry Pratchett | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@smoe.org | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:47:59 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: eh and bee shoppin' Bob Kollmeyer wrote: >I have no experience with A&B, but if they have them in stock and >they aren't in your collection you'd be insane to pass these by. Yes, >that's $5.49 Canadian (estimated $3.72 US) each. For the record, I have plenty of experience with A&B, and if they have things in stock, your order comes very quickly. You can check the status of your order online, so you'll know, and you can cancel stuff after it's ordered so if there's one disc that's holding up your order, and you cancell that, have them send the rest, and re-order it separately. Or tell them to send whatever they have when they have it. You can also combine orders, which will sometimes slow things down. They may be sometimes slow, but atl east they're flexible, unlike many other online services! I've also had to send a defective disc back to them once, and they easy to deal with about it. - --Neile - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 01:02:13 -0500 From: Mark Miazga Subject: Re: Chieftains' Tears of Stone > I was most impressed with Joan Osborne's Raglan Road. > She really has a knack for Irish songs surprisingly. Anyone > know when her next album should be released? I liked "Relish" > and her early recordings album well enough, but it's tracks > like this and Spearhead's Wayfarin' Stranger that make me > realize just what she's capable of. Joan's long-awaited followup to "Relish" has again been delayed to the fall. It's been delayed so many times that her mailing list is really, really bitter. Apparently, there's some issues between her and the record company on the un-poppiness of the recordings that have shown up. --mm - -- Mark Miazga e-mail: miazgama@pilot.msu.edu 580 West Akers Hall East Lansing, MI 48825 (517) 353-3321 http://www.msu.edu/~miazgama Program Coordinator of The Common Grounds Coffeehouse. Cheap Concerts every Friday night in the basement of Akers Hall. Schedule, booking, and mailing list info at: http://www.msu.edu/~miazgama/coffee "In the beginning there was nothing. God said, 'Let there be light!' And there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot better." - -- Ellen DeGeneres "Life's short and hard, like a bodybuilding elf." -- Jimmy Pop Ali ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:24:29 -0800 From: "Larry J. Hernandez" Subject: SF Gate Celtic music article Yo 'philes, The recent mention of Susan McKeown's 'Peter and Wendy' reminded me to make ya all aware of the latest Derk Richardson column in the SF Chron. He likes Susan. Even mentions her in the same sentence as Sandy Denny... High praise indeed. Sorry for the repeat if this has been mentioned on ecto recently. I'm still so way behind on my digest reading! http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/derk/ Larry (alundra@cio.net) ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #74 *************************