From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #70 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, February 26 1999 Volume 05 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* [Bill Mazur ] Re: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* [Bill Mazur ] Re: Male Vocalists/Marillion/XTC/Beth Orton [Bill Mazur ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: ecto-digest V5 #69 [lanblind@teleport.com] Re: ecto-digest V5 #69 [Dirk Kastens ] Out of touch with the Grammys ["Robert Lovejoy" ] Re: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* [Michael Colford ] Grammy reactions (was Re: additions) ["Valerie Nozick" ] Re: Grammy reactions (was Re: additions) [Patrick Moseley ] Re: additions ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: Grammy reactions (was Re: additions) [Mark Lowry ] GRRL ROCK [alex.teitz@state.co.us] Ahhh! E-mail help! (was Re: Grammy reactions) [Mark Lowry ] Re: Ecto compilation [Kim Justice ] Re: Jingle vs Genius ["Kristen Weissleader" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:55:39 -0800 From: Bill Mazur Subject: Re: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* Michael Colford wrote: > > Okay, just want to chime in with my idol, Christine McVie of > Fleetwood Mac. Now before you all jump all over me, I know that > technically she's not a "GREAT" keyboard player. Still, I wanted > to mention her because she's been around a long time, and she was > probably my inspiration to take up playing keyboards in a band. > She's also Elton John's inspiration, by the way! ;-) > > Michael > n.p. Imogen Heap - I Megaphone I won't jump on you for that one Michael. Christine is very cool! I think her playing is perfect for Big Mac. I have a real fondness for Fleetwood Mac. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:57:06 -0800 From: Bill Mazur Subject: Re: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* Andrew Fries wrote: > > John Drummond says: > > > You can have all the presence > > in the world and play one chord on a lap steel and make the universe > > cry, but that doesn't mean you're any kind of lap steel virtuoso > > It's all very interesting, but I've no musical training whatsoever - I wouldn't > know your 7ths from the 13ths if they both sat on my face... so I have to use > some other criteria for greatness. And here it is: If the music brings some > kind of emotional response from me then I consider it to be good. If it really > moves me I consider it great. But the number of notes artist used to get that > response from me just doesn't enter the equation. Simple? Sure it is... > > I disagree with you John. If you could make the universe cry it would indeed > make you a virtuoso, and if you could do it with just one note you'd be the > greatest of them all. Exceptionally well stated! Thanks Andrew. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:35:30 -0800 From: Bill Mazur Subject: Re: Male Vocalists/Marillion/XTC/Beth Orton Suzanne Cerquone wrote: > > A part of me wants to list Peter Gabriel as my fave male vocalist, > too....but then when I think about it more, it's really not his vocals that > do me in. He's more my "favorite consumate male artist," invoking great > lyrics, varied instrumentation, stage presence and incredible human > qualities that foray into humanitarian and socio-political issues. That's > what is great about him, not really his voice. I would say second place > goes to Robbie Robertson. I really appreciate what you're saying here Suzanne. Peter Gabriel has been a part of my life in the same way The Beatles have been. He has touched me in more ways than just by his music and his voice. John Lennon is in that same catagory for me. I believe that Tori is striving for that as well. Imperfect humans trying their best to make a difference with their art and using their fame positively. They embrace causes that need to be addressed and that they sincerely believe in. It's good to see Robbie's name mentioned as well. > I *really* enjoyed Bill and Tim's back and forth on things prog, especially > the Marillion talk. (I'm sure some of you were bored with it, but we > promise not to take over the list or anything!) Thanks Suzanne! I have really enjoyed my correspondences with Tim. I'm happy to hear that you have as well. Besides the prog talk, I was very happy to learn more about shoegazer music. I truly hope that we *haven't* bored too many Ectophiles with prog talk. Believe me, I am very happy here on Ecto because so many musical genres and artists are discussed. I appreciate Russ Lewis' referral to a prog mailing list. I'm going to pass on that one though. I just have found most prog news group and mailing list discussion to be too narrow and overly opinionated for my tastes. Plus, some of them get very noisy with flame wars. I find it fascinating that so many different musical tastes are discussed here. It is interesting how people come to Happy's music from different musical angles. > I wanted to put in my two cents on "Radiation" vs. "This Strange Engine." First, the best thing > about Marillion is that no two albums can really compare. I'm sure Bill > and Tim know this, being big fans. That's what makes Marillion so special, > in my opinion. Therefore, I can't really compare the two CDs. I did > like TSE a bit more, though. Every few albums they try to aim for a more > mainstream sound (see Holidays in Eden) and I think it fared well. Yeah, > some songs like "Accidental Man" and "Hope for the Future" were a bit > half-assed, "Hope for the Future" is definitely a little strange with it's mix of feels. I like "Accidental Man" though. > but then you have the utter brilliance of "Man of 1000 Faces" > (which turned out to be one of their most powerful songs live, EVER--that > ending chorus knocked me out), "Estonia," and the title track. Agreed! > Again, TSE is uneven, but I think "Radiation" is even more so. For one, "Answering > Machine" was tampered with after a suggestion from a studio assistant. It > started out as this rollicking, Celtic-feel acoustic vibe that was just > *amazing* (saw them perform it this way last year in Oswestry), and when > they recorded it they made it hard, loud and dense. Blech. I haven't heard the Celtic-feel acoustic version, but it obvious that's the feel it should have even underneath the weight of this version. I agree with you on this one Suzanne. I really don't like Costa del Slough either. > "Now She'llNever Know" is a just a tad too understated, and "Cathedral Wall" is just > way over to top, IMHO. I really like both of those pieces, but I can't definitely see your points on both. > Still, I enjoyed "These Chains," "Three Minute > Boy," "Under the Sun," and "A Few Words for the Dead." These songs > translated very well live as well. Some of my faves as well. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 03:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************* Paula Shanks (no Email address) ********************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:18:39 -0800 From: lanblind@teleport.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V5 #69 Speaking of male vocalists, what do people think of Peter Himmelman? I found his first album (first for me, not sure of his discology) and was blown away, it's called SKIN, sort of an epic of life and death and reincarnation all thru sweet pop/rocking rock...great players, wonderful voice. His newest just came out (not sure of name) and have heard it once and it is also great. ANy other Peter fans out there? Also to Foghorn re: ecto comp cd, I'd love to get involved, add my music and art skills...have produced or co-produced 6 albums now. Worked with graphic folk but did all the art, have lots (I'm a photographer also as well as singer) So contact me if interested. cyoakha Land of the Blind 3439 NE Sandy Blvd., Suite 266 Portland, Oregon USA (503) 321-5093 email lanblind@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~lanblind/ Distributed through: "Out of Chaos"-- Burnside Distribution "One Eye"-- Rainforest Records ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:27:28 +0100 From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: ecto-digest V5 #69 At 01:18 25.02.99 -0800, lanblind@teleport.com wrote: >Speaking of male vocalists, what do people think of Peter Himmelman? I >found his first album (first for me, not sure of his discology) and was >blown away, it's called SKIN, sort of an epic of life and death and >reincarnation all thru sweet pop/rocking rock...great players, wonderful >voice. His newest just came out (not sure of name) and have heard it once >and it is also great. ANy other Peter fans out there? You mean Peter HAMMILL, don't you? Skin is the only album I have. I like it. Don't know his recent stuff. Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:01:35 -0500 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Out of touch with the Grammys This is one old coot who is way out of touch with popular American music. Thank God for the fringe. I knew I was in trouble with the mainstream when they snubbed the Firesign Theater's new disc for the 2000 Year Old Man. Looks like I'll have to turn in my music-listening license as well. I'm with the wicked witch: "What a world, what a world!!!" The ever out-of-it Bobbo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:08:39 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: ecto-digest V5 #69 Cyahoka sez: > At 01:18 25.02.99 -0800, lanblind@teleport.com wrote: > >Speaking of male vocalists, what do people think of Peter Himmelman? I > >found his first album (first for me, not sure of his discology) and was > >blown away, it's called SKIN, sort of an epic of life and death and > >reincarnation all thru sweet pop/rocking rock...great players, wonderful > >voice. His newest just came out (not sure of name) and have heard it once > >and it is also great. ANy other Peter fans out there? and Dirk Kastens responds: > You mean Peter HAMMILL, don't you? Skin is the only album I > have. I like it. Don't know his recent stuff. Nope, she definitely means Himmelman. And to tie things back to recent discussion here, the first few times I heard _Skin_, I kept thinking about _Lamb Lies Down on Broadway_. Not that they *really* have anything in common, but for some reason, I kept drawing a parallel between them. He's been in a *ton* of my np's, but I rarely actually write about him on ecto because he's not particularly ectophillic. But now that someone asks.... Himmelman's been around for years and years. He started out fronting a band called Sussman Lawrence, which released two records...then shifted things so that he released his music as Peter Himmelman, while his bandmates from Sussman Lawrence continued to play for him. Since then, he's released: This Father's Day Gematria Synesthesia From Strength to Strength Flown This Acid World Skin My Bestfriend is a Salamander (for kids) Stage Diving (live, solo acoustic) Souler Opposites (soundtrack) (an NP last night, in fact!) Love Thinketh No Evil Most people seem to like the two albums prior to _Skin_ the best. _Flow This Acid World_ contains what was probably his best known song, "Beneath the Damage And the Dust." _Skin_ is my own favorite; it's largely folk and fairly straightforward rock, but it's also a rock opera with a lot of prog sensibilities. I find the early albums (prior to _From Strength to Strength_) to be very uneven, with some utterly unbelievable material, but also some tracks I skip from time to time. He's an incredible live performer (there's a review I wrote of a show last year at http://members.aol.com/himmelsite/owings2.html). He's known for improving songs about people in the audience, inviting people on stage to dance and/or sing. As a vocalist, he's kinda got that slightly rough male folky voice, but he's able to do all sorts of impersonations, and uses these in his live shows for all sorts of things, though he doesn't often do much with 'em on the albums (though it took me forever to decide that the opening track on _Skin_ was in fact done by Himmelman) Himmelman's gotten a fair amount of press for being an orthodox jew (not so easy to make your living as a touring rock musician when you're shomer shabbat). Unsurprisingly, this tends to have some impact on his lyrics... He's also gotten a lot of press for being married to Bob Dylan's daughter. jeff (who wonders how many people made it this far) - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:27:27 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* Wow, this thread just keeps going, doesn't. Well, not one to avoid controversy, it just struck me that my beloved and much-maligned Mr. Rufus Wainwright could also be stuck in my enjoyable, talented keyboardists category. He definitely has a distinct style, and is pretty technically proficient as well. Thanks, too, to Bill M. for sticking up for my appreciation of Christine McVie. I'd also like to second Meredith's mention of Bruce Cockburn, a beautiful male voice, a brilliant lyricist and a pretty damn good guitarist as well! Michael n.p. Rufus Wainwright - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:39:19 -0500 From: dave Subject: Fleming and John Here's a Fleming and John link I got from another mailing list http://www.duc.auburn.edu/~mccorke/fj.html There's an audio file of winter wonderland/misty mountain hop (some combination, huh?) - -- +-----------------------------------------------------+ + dave + + irc.dal.net #Panic_Beach female music artist chat + + http://magpage.com/~sspan/ music clips/pics/links + +-----------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:59:27 -0500 From: "Valerie Nozick" Subject: Grammy reactions (was Re: additions) On 2/24/99, at 11:43 PM, meredith wrote: >Then to torture myself I sat through the Grammys tonight. I hadn't heard >of Lauryn Hill before tonight - I take it I'm the only one? Where did she >come from? Since she won Best New Artist (and everything else, it seems), >does that mean she's going to disappear off the face of the earth now? Was >the Ricky Martin who gyrated his way to a win in the Latin category the >same Ricky Martin who was in Menudo when I was 13? I found it quite >curious that every single performer won the award given out immediately >following their performance. (Things that make you go "hmmm".) For me, >the only cool moments were John Williams conducting a live rendition of the >Star Wars theme, and Luciano Pavarotti's performance. Do I get my "snob" >badge now? ;) Lauryn Hill comes to your radar screen via the Fugees ("Killing Me Softly"). Not quite a new artist, but how many of the nominees for that award were actually releasing their first album? (answer: one) I don't have her album, but it's been the rage of critics for awhile now. You don't listen to much mainstream, do you, meth? Actually, I like some of the stuff on the radio, but I *hated* the song she sang last night. Yup, that's the same Ricky Martin of Menudo. I'm very confused -- the music to the song he did live sounds almost like "Un, dos, tres", or whatever that song is they play at Club Med, but it wasn't quite the same, and the lyrics were different. Anyone know why this is? There was one very cool exception to the award-after-performer rule. The Dixie Chicks won for best album right after Shania's performance. They even commented on how surprised they were to win, since Shania had just performed. It was one of the coolest moments of the show, IMO. Other Grammy reactions? What was up with Shania's pseudo-bondage outfit??? And the off-key singing (I give her the Madonna award for bad singing, highlighting the benefits of a good producer and mixer). Interestingly, Madonna's voice wasn't so bad last night. I guess someone made her sit through her MTV Music Awards performance a few hundred times before introducing her to a voice coach. Worst outfits: Shania's bondage get-up, and the short Dixie Chick's weird something's-growing-from-my-arm top. Also, I really didn't need to see Lauryn Hill's nipples that badly! Best outfits: Sarah looked really good, but I *loved* Monica's gold dress. It was classy and sexy, and totally outshone Brandy's schmata. Most awkward moment: The woman from Garbage presenting with Billy Corgan. I wonder what happened between them backstage! I couldn't decide which of the two was most fucked up -- my guess is Garbage (is it Shirley Manson?) was on something, and Billy Corgan is just a lech. Favorite moment: The Dixie Chicks total surprise at winning. Very cool. Another favorite moment was Lauryn Hill being stunned that hip-hop would take album of the year. Also Celine Dion thanking her husband for taking care of her heart. I'm a sucker for romantic moments like that. ==> Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:15:41 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Grammy reactions (was Re: additions) >There was one very cool exception to the award-after-performer rule. The >Dixie Chicks won for best album right after Shania's performance. They >even commented on how surprised they were to win, since Shania had just >performed. It was one of the coolest moments of the show, IMO. Very cool moment indeed, especially after Shania's awful appearance and performance. I wonder how many more of the "conservative country" audience she managed to alienate last night. The Dixie Chicks' reaction to winning was quite funny. >Most awkward moment: The woman from Garbage presenting with Billy Corgan. >I wonder what happened between them backstage! I couldn't decide which of >the two was most fucked up -- my guess is Garbage (is it Shirley Manson?) >was on something, and Billy Corgan is just a lech. Yeah, her name's Shirley Manson, and she looked practically stoned. She was obviously not happy about *something*, and I actually felt bad for Billy Corgan (even though I'm a bigger fan of Garbage), because he seemed affable and ready to read from the teleprompter, something Masen flat-out refused to do. Did you catch their exchange at the end? He said something to the effect of, "You're supposed to read the joke from the teleprompter," to which she replied (with no smile), "I saw the joke." It was quite weird. >Favorite moment: The Dixie Chicks total surprise at winning. Very cool. >Another favorite moment was Lauryn Hill being stunned that hip-hop would >take album of the year. Also Celine Dion thanking her husband for taking >care of her heart. I'm a sucker for romantic moments like that. I'd also add Madonna winning some deserved awards for an album that finally earned her some musical respect in my book (although I'd still consider myself a fan of "Ray of Light" but not a fan of Madonna's). I was also glad that Clannad won best New Age album, even though "Landmarks" was relatively weak. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:10:58 +1100 From: "Miss Heidi" Subject: would anyone like "red rice"? greetings ectophiles one and all ... given that a lot of people on this list have buzzed, on and off, these past couple years about eliza carthy, i figure this is the place to come with my little dilemma -- i've been given a copy of eliza's double cd "red rice". the only problem being that i already have it *and* the place where my brother picked it up (on import -- her stuff's hard to find here, and he wasn't sure i had it or not) are refusing (for whatever idiotic little reason) to exchange or refund on them. (which is annoying indeed considering he paid $48.95 australian for them!). thus, i come to the ecto community with this proposition -- would anyone out there be interested in them? they're in brand new condition; they've not even been taken out of the shrink wrap, actually, and given that i know eliza's ecto-ishly directioned, musically speaking, i thought i might well find a taker here? i am *not* looking to make a profit or anything; perhaps do some sort of exchange or something? i'm in australia, but an happy to send them to anyone anywhere on the face of this planet of ours! :) if anybody is interested, i would love to hear from you. kindest wishes, heidi. - --- tender is the night flying by our side / tender is the touch of someone you love too much / tender is the day the demons go away / lord i need to find someone who can heal my mind ~ *damon albarn* * heidi maier - maier@joynet.com.au * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:56:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: additions On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, meredith wrote: > Then to torture myself I sat through the Grammys tonight. I hadn't heard > of Lauryn Hill before tonight - I take it I'm the only one? Where did she > come from? Since she won Best New Artist (and everything else, it seems), > does that mean she's going to disappear off the face of the earth now? Was > the Ricky Martin who gyrated his way to a win in the Latin category the > same Ricky Martin who was in Menudo when I was 13? I found it quite > curious that every single performer won the award given out immediately > following their performance. (Things that make you go "hmmm".) For me, > the only cool moments were John Williams conducting a live rendition of the > Star Wars theme, and Luciano Pavarotti's performance. Do I get my "snob" > badge now? ;) Hill's winning Best "New" Artist is kind of weird, since she'd already had hits and acclaim as a member of the Fugees. You may have her her/their version of "Killing Me Softly with His Song". For me, Ricky Martin was the highpoint. I'd never heard of him before, but I missed the larval Menudo-fan stage... Not every person won after performing -- the Dixie Chicks got their award after Shania Twain performed. Worst Halloween Costumes: Shania Twain as Wendy O. Williams Sheryl Crow as Pat Benatar Sarah McLachlan as Liza Minelli Bono as... uh... someone from the Scooby Doo cartoons Lauryn Hill as Ralph Kramden Shirley Manson as an escapee from the Hellmouth Madonna as a paper airplane Brandy (first appearance) as Will Smith Most inexplicable performance: Pavarotti (was he holding Aretha Franklin hostage or something)? Most amazing architecture: the roof of that shack-like enclosure that managed to hold all those rather large gospel singers. The Claes Oldenburg Odd Objects award: the bags of water that the Japanese women were wrestling with in Madonna's performance. Most surprising was the utter lack of surprises. I figured the Titanic song and the Lauryn Hill album (which didn't grab me as all that great) as shoo-ins for just about everything. The Academy needs new blood worse than a gang of anemic vampires locked in a vegetarian restaurant... so they go and reshufffle their labels, trying their best to dump everyone with a clue. Next hit prediction: Dilbert Sings the Blues... - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:52:47 -0600 From: Mark Lowry Subject: Re: Grammy reactions (was Re: additions) > Favorite moment: The Dixie Chicks total surprise at winning. Yes indeed. I only watched the Grammy's for a few minutes, and caught this. I love what they said about making an album and breaking all of Nashville's rules. That was very cool, but unfortunately, something that will come back to bite them. I'm glad they're getting recognition since I've been following them for more than 10 years. This is their "first" big album, but they've several small-time ones ("Thank Heavens for Dale Evans" is my favorite), and they're very cool to see in some little smoky dive bar in Dallas. Guess that won't happen again. Mark n.p. Curve _Doppleganger_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:38:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Grammy reactions (was Re: additions) On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Mark Lowry wrote: > > Favorite moment: The Dixie Chicks total surprise at winning. > I'm glad they're getting recognition since I've been following them for more than 10 years. This is their "first" big album, but they've several small-time ones ("Thank Heavens for Dale Evans" is my favorite), and they're very cool to see in some little smoky dive bar in Dallas. Guess that won't happen again. Ah! I *thought* I had heard of them as an ongoing thing when I lived in Dallas a few years back. Their (small and deserved) hype has made it seem like they were brand new. - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:49:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Ecto compilation On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Foghorn J Fornorn wrote: > To those who have expressed interest (or are yet to do so): Do you have any > idea how much time your demo(s)/music will need on the CD? I figure no more than 5 minutes for mine. I'm toying with doing a cover of a Happy song. Would she be against that? - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:47:50 -0700 From: alex.teitz@state.co.us Subject: GRRL ROCK Some of you may know that I've been writing since November for this magazine focusing on women in music. I wanted to tell everyone else. I'm also looking for new artists to cover. If you can think of people, please e-mail me at my GRRL ROCK address of ATeitz7@hotmail.com Alex > For Release: January 5, 1999 > From: GRRL ROCK http://www.angelfire.com/oh/ShoePolish7 > GrrlRock26@hotmail.com > Subject: GRRL ROCK GOES NATIONAL! > > GRRL ROCK, the Cleveland based free music magazine dedicated to > women in music and the arts, is branching out. After three months of > positive feedback in the Cleveland area, GRRL ROCK has decided to go > national. > GRRL ROCK will continue to be FREE and cover new artists, live > performances, upcoming shows, movie reviews, horoscopes and everything > you've gotten to used to. In > addition, nationwide coverage will be provided by our new "beat" > reporters. These new correspondents will allow us to add new sections > including book reviews. > GRRL ROCK thrives because of the support of our advertisers. We > welcome advertising by new artists, bands, shops, and venues. If you would > be interested, or know of someone who would like to advertise in GRRL > ROCK, please contact our staff at GrrlRock26@hotmail.com > GRRL ROCK is a FREE magazine. If you are interested in receiving a > copy,or full subscription, please e-mail us at GrrlRock26@hotmail.com and > visit our website > at http://www.angelfire.com/oh/ShoePolish7 > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:25:14 -0600 From: Mark Lowry Subject: Ahhh! E-mail help! (was Re: Grammy reactions) Eeegads! Just noticed that the last e-mail I send to Ecto came across as one of the messages where the text is running very long vertically. That's so annoying. None of the other's I have sent are doing that ... (Oh wait, I *can't* see the other ones I'm sending cuz they're to friends). I'm so clueless when it comes to the technicalities of computer stuff. Suggestions? Help? Mark n.p. Hedwig and the Angry Inch again ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:46:10 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: billy corgan and garbage n a message dated 2/25/99 8:05:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, valerie@smoe.org writes: > Most awkward moment: The woman from Garbage presenting with Billy Corgan. I > wonder what happened between them backstage! I couldn't decide which of the > two was most fucked up -- my guess is Garbage (is it Shirley Manson?) was on > something, and Billy Corgan is just a lech. It's actually b/c they are nominated together for Garbage's new album, but Garbage disputes that BC had anything to do with it at all... Hrmm... jessica http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:54:36 -0500 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: billy corgan and garbage Songbird22@aol.com wrote: > > Most awkward moment: The woman from Garbage presenting with Billy Corgan. > > I wonder what happened between them backstage! I couldn't decide which of > > the two was most fucked up -- my guess is Garbage (is it Shirley Manson?) > > was on something, and Billy Corgan is just a lech. > > It's actually b/c they are nominated together for Garbage's new album, but > Garbage disputes that BC had anything to do with it at all... Hrmm... Isn't that Courtney Love and Hole that are disputing the amount of involvement by Billy Corgan, not Shirley Manson and Garbage? Stuart - -- ______________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:40:23 -0600 From: Kim Justice Subject: Re: Ecto compilation At 10:23 PM -0600 2/24/99, Foghorn J Fornorn wrote: >OK, I've read/skimmed my mail since last Sunday, and I have the following >list of people who either have demos or want to do new demos for an ecto >compilation: > > [...] > >Anyone else have anything to contribute? I have an instrumental version of the Cocteau Twins' "Pale Clouded White" I could contribute -- or an original tune perhaps. I think this is a way cool idea because I've been curious about some posters' music for some time. I'll eagerly watch this space for future developments. kj - -- justicek@home.com (Kim Justice) http://members.home.net/justicek "There are always new beginnings, even for people like us." -- Susan Ivanova ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 22:19:42 -0800 From: "Kristen Weissleader" Subject: Re: Jingle vs Genius - -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sampson To: Ecto Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Jingle vs Genius >Joseph S. Zitt wrote: >> >> On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, kerry white wrote: >> >> > How does "jingle vs genius" affect your sensiblities? Reactions, >> > furtherences, or laughter welcome. bye, >> >> They're not necessarily exclusive. My hum-cache of latest has included a >> car commercial ("Get in my car and drive for miles and miles and miles" >> -- who is that singing?), the "yadda-yadda-yadda" riff from MWABT, "Rebel >> Rebel" (which is also now on a car commercial), and John Cage's >> "Experiences II". Yay, postmodernage. > > Yeah... but *genius*? I dunno... cleverness, maybe... > Still, it's hard for me to tell, having never seen/heard the >commercial. > Postmodernage is a difficult thing to assess for genius at any rate... > The media are (by definition) not conventional > > Chris >-- >(API) --- MICROSOFT (MSFT) announced today that the official >release date for the new operating system "Windows 2000" will be >delayed until the second quarter of 1901. > I thought I was goofy for liking some of those commercial jingles. I liked the car commercial mentioned and I also like the bit used for Showtimes commercials. I hear them and wonder if they are only jingles or if there is an actual artist's CD that they used. I could, however, do without the VW "Da Da Da" song. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #70 *************************